Alesis Strike and Strike Pro Hi Hat issue fix!!! 1.3 firmware READ DESCRIPTION

[@michaelneal309]

I love my Strike Pro but have HATED the hat action since day one...I have spent HOURS looking for a fix...this did it. You sir, are a lifesaver. THANK YOU!

[@johnace8050]

Yes definitely, but also... #1) Do this for now #2) Call Alesis and ask about the updated hihat spring and they will send you one. It works better needing no mod. #3) Follow these steps to ensure trigger muting is not happening. The following have helped with muting, positional(pedal) consistency, and triggering.... The following is the reason why the ring of the open hihat edge gets muted when hitting the bow directly after and it is definitely fixable!! It MUST be done for each kit you would like to change it on. It's a module feature that can be applied to any trigger! Here how you do it. 1)Go to desired kit 2)Click "VOICE" 3)Change TRIG to hihat edge OR hihat bow. 4)Click FX/MIDI 5)Click "OTHER" 6)Turn "MUTE GROUP" to OFF!! 7)Repeat for both edge and bow and test. Also, join us on the facebook page "Strike Pro Owners Group". Enjoy!!

[@johnace8050]

Oops that was for the person that commented after you lol. Good info though!

[@scottharris7222]

I wanted to let you know this works also for the PRO - X cymbals for the earlier DM 10 X kits. It is a general improvement overall as I use the DM 10 engine and the Roland TD 12 engine with this fix. Instant improvement. I am losing my foot splash (could be a setting ) but the chicks ... open and closed are very reliable now regardless of what engine I use. Thanks!

[@johnace8050]

Very nice! I believe you're the first one to share that kind of cross platform improvement. But yeah, doing this kind of physical change will need a little tweaking to your settings but I'm glad to hear it helped you out a lot. Now you can enjoy your kit even more! Lol Thank you for the feedback.

[@sirbattlecat]

I haven't actually played the kit for months because the hihat issue. I will definitely try this.

[@johnace8050]

Yes definitely, but also... #1) Do this for now #2) Call Alesis and ask about the updated hihat spring and they will send you one. It works better needing no mod. #3) Follow these steps to ensure trigger muting is not happening. The following have helped with muting, positional(pedal) consistency, and triggering.... The following is the reason why the ring of the open hihat edge gets muted when hitting the bow directly after and it is definitely fixable!! It MUST be done for each kit you would like to change it on. It's a module feature that can be applied to any trigger! Here how you do it. 1)Go to desired kit 2)Click "VOICE" 3)Change TRIG to hihat edge OR hihat bow. 4)Click FX/MIDI 5)Click "OTHER" 6)Turn "MUTE GROUP" to OFF!! 7)Repeat for both edge and bow and test. Also, join us on the facebook page "Strike Pro Owners Group". Doing all of that should fix your issues and get you back to enjoying it!!

[@fbablevideo]

This is the first tutorial I've found online that remotely got my hi hat working decent. THANK YOU!!

[@johnace8050]

Matt Martin well you're very welcome. Now you should experiment with different patterns while doing the pedal reset. I do quarter notes and eighth notes in the closed position, full open, and when I did semi open it was BARELY open. Just enough to produce the semi open. That helped to "bark" it. Join everyone on the facebook group "Strike Pro Owners Group"

[@arthousecreations1]

Great video. Going to sign up for the FB group. Playing Melodics using the Strike Pro and am getting double/triple trigger issues with the kick drum and double triggers (occasionally) with the hi-hat. I think I solved the Kick drum trigger issue by adjusting the retrigger setting from 30 to 65 (not sure if that will cause other issues) but still having issues with the hi-hat. When I adjust the retrigger setting for the hi-hat the double triggers are reduced but does not eliminate the occasional double triggering. If I set the retrigger value too high it just becomes a mess. It appears to be an issue that can be solved but it may take a while. Also need to check out the pedal reset as you mentioned.

[@johnace8050]

Nice! Have you since updated to 1.4? Sorry for the late reply. Have you solved your issues?

[@arthousecreations1]

@@johnace8050 Hello John. I've got a 95% solution. For the Kick Drum I changed the curve to EXP2 with minor tweaks to the settings (sensitivity 30 to 38, retrigger 30 to 32 and threshold 28 to 21). For the hi-hat also made some changes (sensitivity to 90, retrigger to 30, threshold to 10); this is for both edge and bow. I understand there is also another setting concerning the pedal but didn't touch those. I eliminated most double triggers on the hi-hat but only can get closed or open hits (no semi-open or semi-closed). What I realized is that the kit has so many adjustments, it just takes time and effort to get the setting that conform to your playing style. BTW: I had 1.4 since day one. Thanks.

[@johnace8050]

@@arthousecreations1 yeah it does take a while to learn. And it also takes experimenting. If you're on 1.4 then you might want to dive into the pedal settings also. You can change the curve on your chick sounds and also adjust the setting for the actual physical setup. Theres a setting called offset. That accounts for the space between your hats. It basically changes the point where it senses as closed. Playing with that a little bit may help. As far as semiopen, you may be using an Instrument with little to no semiopen samples. If you start digging into the editor you'll find not all instruments are sampled equally. If it's not that then it's in the settings.

[@bigdaddygregful]

Yes Yes Yes !!! THIS ACTUALLY WORKS !!! .....not that i ever doubted you, but this worked perfectly. This is the first time I've gotten this hi hat to work correctly and after 2 days of trials i'm positive now that this is the fix i've been looking for. Thanks so much. I also spent hours on this problem and haven't played much because of the problem. i was turning into a no hi hat playing drummer!??!!? ......yeah, wtf

[@johnace8050]

You're welcome! I'm glad it helped. But also, if you haven't already. Call Alesis and ask about the updated hihat spring. It's stronger and works well without the mod. Trust me you'll want it. Lol also Join us on the facebook groups "Strike Solutions. Strike Drum Module Deep Discussion" and also "Strike Pro Owners group"

[@sergiomoyano8021]

Ecxellent video man. I got my hi hat fixed with this video. Thank you!

[@johnace8050]

That's awesome brother!! I'm glad it helled you out. That's what it's all about! Happy drumming!! 🤘🏻

[@josephlawson7005]

You're the man! Thanks for posting... this totally worked for me!

[@johnace8050]

Joseph Lawson you're very welcome!! I'm glad this helped you!

[@essop3]

100% better feel and sound. Thanks!

[@johnace8050]

essop3 that's awesome!!! I'm glad it helped you out! Feel free to share the link if you know other Alesis strike owners. Also, you should join the facebook group "Strike Pro Owners Group" and join the fun lol

[@marcosulloa4019]

hi. Is it possible to use a hi-hat with a single pad and a pedal on this drum, as electronic drums traditionally bring it?

[@robinramos5198]

Just want to THANK YOU worked perfect !!!!

[@johnace8050]

Robin Ramos That's awesome!! Your very welcome. Feel free to share the link to any other Strike owners you know of. Also, you should join everyone on the facebook group "Strike Pro Owners Group" 👍🏻

[@ashtonschuler683]

I’ve heard the kick pad will wear out fast if you use a double kicker, do you know if this is true? Been thinking about getting this kit since I’ve heard of a lot of improvements but the double kicker is a must for me

[@johnace8050]

No worries brother! I'm not sure where you heard that but it is far from true. The only thing that can wear down the mesh head would be a felt beater as it will eventually burn through. Especially with double bass. Its explained in the kit manual but unfortunately there are many people that dont read it and burn through it with a felt beater and then say the heads are crap. Dont pay attention to that. 👍🏻

[@thetimahawk1]

May I just say , that for $ 2300 plus tax , there should be NO issues period . I am buying my first electronic kit this week and after about 6 weeks of reading reviews , watching videos, playing demos at GC and talking to people for hours and hours on end . I have researched about 10 kits I was interested in and sorted it out to 3 . I really wanted to buy the regular Alesis Strike kit ( $ 1699 ). But there have been too many complaints about the hi hat , the foam rods in the drums and long download times in the module that I just can't do it . I was also interested in the Yamaha DTX532 ( $999 ) but I don't like the hard rubber pads on the toms . So , I am buying the new Roland TD - 17 KVXS ( $1599 ). I played the TD-17KV at GC and loved the sound and the feel of the pads. I did not like the fixed hi hat or the 2 zone cymbals so I am going with the KVXS which has a hi hat that goes on a real stand and has three 3 zone cymbals. I have not heard of any issues at all with this kit but then again , it is new and has not been time tested. If any problems arise I will certainly let people know about it. I feel bad for you folks who bought the Strike kit and have had all these issues. Alesis should have sorted all this shit out before releasing it to the public. But greed knows no bounds and they decided to use you as guinea pigs . They should be ashamed of themselves AND if it was me , I would send the whole kit back and get my hard earned $$$ back ! I am counting on Rolands reputation as a reliable high quality product. ' Nuff said and I wish all of you the best with the Strike kit. I hope Alesis does the right thing by you.

[@johnace8050]

This video in comparison to what has been done is very old. The issue here with the hihat was the spring was too weak. They have already started using a better spring that works like it should. So that issue is gone. The foam columns I wouldn't worry about. It doesnt happen to everyone. And if you cant get them to stick Alesis will replace the entire drum and not ask to return the old one as it's not cost effective. So why not get another free drum and reglue the old towers? That's a win in my book lol. And the long download times have also been taken care of with the 1.4 update. Trust me, the kit is constantly getting better. Most if not all issues have been resolved. Plus if something does happen it's under warranty and will be replaced for free.

[@johnace8050]

You shouldn't feel bad for people though. Alesis is taking care of everything and everyone. Revisions are always being made and changes have been made to numerous designs. Keep in mind this kit is also considered a new kit and also want time tested. That explains the issues, but all are being taken care of. I've also had no issues with mine after getting the new hihat spring and adjusting settings. It's a great kit man you'd be missing out not to get it. Lol Good luck on your shopping brother! And happy drumming.

[@thetimahawk1]

Thank you John. That is great news. I am glad they resolved the problems. I was not aware of it. I felt bad and was kind of angered that people spent a lot of money on a kit with issues. And your right . The kit is also new and not time tested but although it was new to us , Alesis had it in their hands for a while before it was green lighted. When you use the word Pro in the name of your kit , I feel there should not be any problem. JMO. This has not been an easy decision by any means for me. This back and forth stuff on what to buy is wearing me out . I believe I am going to stick with the Roland TD-17 KVXS. I wish you all the best with your Strike kit and who knows ? If it don't work out for me with this Roland kit a Strike may be in my future ! Keep 'dem sticks in motion ! The Timahawk.

[@johnace8050]

@@thetimahawk1 you're welcome! And I can completely understand that. But as far as ANY electronics go, some things just fail regardless of brand. But honestly the only real issue with these is the snare center plate cracks after a random amount of time, which like I said you can get a free one under warranty and they won't ask for the old one back which you can just repair yourself and have an extra. And the new snares have a center plate made out of different material now. We talk about all this on the facebook group called Strike Pro Owners Group. Join there first to do research from guys that own them including me.

[@thetimahawk1]

Ok. Thanks. Gonna check out that group on FB right now .

[@hogdogsgelsoft238]

🙏 Legend bro !! It's got me closer to what I'm trying to achieve by doing that 🤟😜 cheers

[@surrenderradio2064]

Thank you for posting this brother

[@johnace8050]

Oh, you're very welcome! This will definitely help you. But also, Alesis has started using an updated spring that is stronger and requires no mod. All you have to do is call them and ask about it, and ask them to send you one. 👍🏻 The new one works like it should without this... definitely worth it.

[@DaLoveDonkey69420]

Is there a way to increase the closed hi-hat volume without increasing it's open counterpart?

[@johnace8050]

Great question!! Off the top of my head I'm not sure. If it's possible, you can do it in the strike editor. There are volume controls to edit kits' default volume as a whole but I'm not sure about individual samples. MAYBE individual layers which can help those lower layers(closed). You'll have to go into the editor and pick the kit you want to try and select a certain layer and adjust the volume there. Then check a different layer to see if all of them changed or not. Sorry but it's been a couple years since I've used the editor and my laptop is down at the moment.

[@StopPanakinAnakin]

This helped immensely! Thank you very much.

[@johnace8050]

Tanner Cruse your so very welcome!! I'm so happy to see this is helping a lot of people. If you have a Facebook you should join everyone is the group called "Strike Pro Owners Group" 👍🏻 . Enjoy the set, it's definitely awesome once it works right lol

[@nikolayzaytsev4410]

That's great, dude! It's worked for me too! Thank you so much!

[@lincolnmmitchell]

That's quite a stack of pancakes. lol jk.

[@VictorManuelMendozaJr]

Thanks for the video man! I miss so many hits with mine!

[@johnace8050]

VMMJ 1979 your welcome. Feel free to share with anyone having consistency issues. If your consistency is that bad I would start over by setting it up this way, and use the same settings I did, do the hihat reset, then adjust the settings from there.

[@VictorManuelMendozaJr]

I just finished wiring the cable thru the rack for a cleaner look, going to adjust my hi-hats today. It's my first electric kit and I'm really diggin' it. I hope Alesis makes a tutorial for setting up Addictive Drums hi-hats. Thanks again!

[@VictorManuelMendozaJr]

I have a few drum cover vids if you want to check them out bro, cheers from Texas!

[@johndef5075]

What does the wire the from bottom cymbal to the pressure module do? The hi hat top and the pressure module both connect to module so what does extra wire do?

[@johnace8050]

The bottom cymbal has 3 pressure points equidistant around the edge. When you close the hats it's supposed to help tell the controller it's fully closed as the top hat touches all 3 when fully closed. However it doesn't seem to actually take that into account and depending on your settings you can still get open sounds with them fully closed. I think it was something they were going to impliment more but never got around to it. They had hihat design copyright issues before. Short answer is, not much!

[@konstelasi4709]

This is amazing! thankyou so much :D

[@robbie7345]

Did you remove the felt washer on top hat? Where the top lock goes in?

[@johnace8050]

Robbie D No I did not. If you take the video to around 1:35 you can see it is still there. Although I have it VERY tight, basically squished. I didn't want it to "give" at all when I close it. I hope that makes sense.

[@robbie7345]

Sure does. Thanks a lot!. Just got mine in mail about an hour ago and decided to research a little...\m/.

[@johnace8050]

Robbie D always a good thing to do. If you're talking about the entire kit, I don't know how you do it. I got mine in my house and started building right away. Unfortunately figuring this out was trial and error and LOTS of research. You got to skip some of that lol

[@georgev3256]

Wondering which hi hat stand you use

[@KeithMarvK]

How is this working for you know? Still getting the results you want?

[@johnace8050]

Oh, it's even better now than before. This video was made before the 1.4 update and before they updated the spring. Everything is much better now.

[@KeithMarvK]

@@johnace8050 that's great. I really appreciate you sharing this. I've waited a long time before committing to buying a new set. I needed a Roland price to come down or the Alesis known issues to get better. Guys like you tend to find a way, and we don't always have to wait for manufactures to give us what we need. Great work.

[@johnace8050]

@@KeithMarvK a lot of issues have been fixed in revisions. I wouldn't worry too much.

[@crazyfun8571]

Thanks man...

[@purpledc1]

And here is the original thread that talks about the few different fixes in detail. www.alesisdrummer.com/index.php?topic=7567.0%3Btopicseen

[@johnace8050]

PurplEDC Reviews Thanks. That goes perfect with the video!

[@purpledc1]

out of curiosity what do you think of the responsiveness of the hi hats even with the fix?

[@johnace8050]

PurplEDC Reviews Its good. Although the settings are not 100% yet but it's getting there. Also, I may have been one of the lucky few. There are lots of people who are getting hi hats with dead edges but Alesis has been good at sending free replacements. Some people can't get settings right. And they act different on different hi hat stands.

[@bennydrumming...2339]

Plz help me can i use this hi hat to my pearl e prove live kit..does it compertable with red box module

[@johnace8050]

Well, I am not exactly sure.... From what I know so far, a Roland VH11 hihat is compatible with your kit. And the Roland VH11 is also compatible with my Alesis Strike. I can only guess that since the Roland vh11 will work with my kit, then my hats SHOULD work with the roland kit that the vh11 came from. And if the vh11 will work on your kit then I'm guessing this one would work on your kit too. I'm not 100% on that but that's my best guess. Good luck. 👍🏻

[@jrscheile]

I gave up on this kit, sold it .. lost money.. back to Roland TD 20. really too bad but the Hi hat set up was a deal breaker!

[@johnace8050]

jrscheile well, sorry to hear that... It was a very easy fix. Just had to alter their design a bit and adjust away from their "optimized" settings.

[@flagainst3]

It's alot better. Thanks. I fucking hate this hihat

[@itsgmani]

How do we stop it from spinning around while playing?

[@johnace8050]

The top cymbal, where you tighten your clutch to your top cymbal, should have a stopper on the bottom. Looks like a circle with a flat part sticking out. That goes on the bottom between the gap to stop it from spinning. Maybe check that it is not installed upside down?

[@itsgmani]

@@johnace8050 thanks I’ll have a second look. I got this kit used and think there may be something missing. Everything thing else is great the hi hat a stickler

[@Hemoria22]

Will these be good for live professional use

[@johnace8050]

Hemoria22 Based on the performance of the controller, I wouldn't use this setup for gigs. If you have no hardware issues with hihat pad it would be best to get a GoEdrum controller. Very good results from many people! You won't be able to use the bottom cymbal (which is only for looks) but it will perform 100% better with the GoEdrum controller. Hope this helps you. 👌🏻

[@tasarasforever]

Is this still working? Thanks for the video.

[@johnace8050]

Τάσος Περόγλου yes it's still working. My hi-hat has been flawless since then. Also, your welcome.

[@timbrackeen3508]

Can’t you adjust that on the module ?

[@johnace8050]

Tim Brackeen no, you cannot change the physical setup in the module 🤣