Alex Higgins vs Stephen Hendry (young), the best frame of all time 1987

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Hans Werner

Hans Werner

9 жыл бұрын

One of the best played break from 2 fantastic potters

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@pltcsetc
@pltcsetc 8 жыл бұрын
I love this commentator's way of speaking, it makes it more magic and with more serenity.
@NotQuiteFirst
@NotQuiteFirst 8 жыл бұрын
Nowadays there's usually two commentators together, and they constantly talk throughout the game, telling you what the players are trying to do and what they did wrong and where they wanted the cue ball to end up etc etc... This commentator is so refreshing to listen to, it's like he's reading a poem, really calm and cool
@vzsombor95
@vzsombor95 6 жыл бұрын
More like throat cancer
@mull80s
@mull80s 6 жыл бұрын
WHERE'S THE CUE BALL GOING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
@ianwilliamson2980
@ianwilliamson2980 4 жыл бұрын
Ted Lowe .the most famous snooker commentator ever .
@logicalnetwork1611
@logicalnetwork1611 4 жыл бұрын
This the late great Ted Lowed. He was the brilliant voice of Snooker He is sorely missed. Without Ted Lowe Snooker is just not the same. When Ted died snooker died for me:(
@MultiWalrus1
@MultiWalrus1 8 жыл бұрын
The standard of potting in that frame was outstanding.
@316messenjah
@316messenjah 9 жыл бұрын
The long potting is just unbelievable
@dnbmania
@dnbmania 6 жыл бұрын
Buckets though
@chrisjenkins5846
@chrisjenkins5846 4 жыл бұрын
I do this all the time down the club. ....these are club sized pockets. ...they wouldn't have a chance on today's tables ....there is a pub where I live and the pockets are a couple of mm bigger than the ones on tv ....I cannot pot jack shit on that table ,you have to be so precise. ...
@alexgiles1561
@alexgiles1561 3 жыл бұрын
Was literally just about to type that. Hendry was a beast.
@SM-qg1rh
@SM-qg1rh 3 жыл бұрын
Aaron Dale Behave yourself 😂
@ZooScott
@ZooScott 3 жыл бұрын
both LEGENDS in the frames 147 💥
@tonynaccarato4751
@tonynaccarato4751 2 жыл бұрын
Alex a true genius, and young Stephen one of the greatest snooker player this century.
@edwardbennett3572
@edwardbennett3572 Жыл бұрын
Last century
@johndean4765
@johndean4765 Жыл бұрын
Tony Naccarato Stephen hendry was also a truly great player last century ie 1990s.
@hamastariq9385
@hamastariq9385 8 жыл бұрын
No doubt hendry played outstanding, great potting, But alex was alex a true legend from snooker world, He was not famous because of snooker but the fact is snooker was famous because of alex higgins at that time.. My hero my inspiration the great "Hurricane Higgins"
@salsabil44
@salsabil44 4 жыл бұрын
as a snooker player yes.
@jamesmcdevitt5327
@jamesmcdevitt5327 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with you there chap .judd I think is the nearest to him
@jimmynich4791
@jimmynich4791 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcdevitt5327 Higgins is the only player I've seen moves so much as he's taking the shot but still very accurate. Trump has insane cue power like Higgins had.
@jamesmcdevitt5327
@jamesmcdevitt5327 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmynich4791 yes agree on that .thought that brecil chap from Belgium was going to be in the catergary but is fading rapidly
@jimmynich4791
@jimmynich4791 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmcdevitt5327 So many top players now it's hard to keep track.
@MrSasec
@MrSasec 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing performance by both the Legends👍👍👍👍👍 Simply superb👍👍👍👍👍 Stephen Hendry's long potting was amazing and every shot he played was with great confidence and sure shot pots every time. Alex Higgins (the God/Father of Snooker) has never shown stress even when the score/performance of the opponent was up...The legendary Alex Higgins has cleared the frame with great entertaining shots👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@eddiepower3876
@eddiepower3876 9 жыл бұрын
Hendry was different class even then
@vincesplc
@vincesplc 9 жыл бұрын
Eddie Power YEP!
@stewarthills9344
@stewarthills9344 7 жыл бұрын
The long pots into the baulk corners were crazy in this frame!
@andyfawcett7060
@andyfawcett7060 3 жыл бұрын
What a voice Ted Lowe had. He could have voiced a Tobacco advertisement back in the day and made them a fortune!
@randomvideosandfunnyshit
@randomvideosandfunnyshit 3 жыл бұрын
For sure, Ted Lowe and David Attenborough, could listen to both of them all day 😁
@nathanwilliams2152
@nathanwilliams2152 Жыл бұрын
@@randomvideosandfunnyshit- Murray Walker and James Hunt too
@easterislandhead9579
@easterislandhead9579 4 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Sid Waddell 🎯
@snookerbrain
@snookerbrain 7 жыл бұрын
Hendry and his long potting skills revolutionized how the game was played. Well done wonder baron of Scotland!
@Dinobaburas.
@Dinobaburas. 4 жыл бұрын
And the king of snooker.
@metaldetectingbc6838
@metaldetectingbc6838 2 жыл бұрын
Passing of the torch..Higgins and Hendry are Legends
@markhughes7927
@markhughes7927 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a special gift being an old boy like that umpire - so much calm and wisdom conveyed by the way he moves.
@edwardbennett3572
@edwardbennett3572 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful commentary by ted Lowe
@danbill9165
@danbill9165 2 жыл бұрын
I never saw these games butgrew up with Hendry on tv , Higgins is so good to watch , you just want to watch more he was incredible a true champion of the game rip x
@erniescullion8452
@erniescullion8452 Жыл бұрын
Stephen Hendry said Alex and Jimmy would be the only two that would PRACTICE with him
@billfrater1948
@billfrater1948 4 жыл бұрын
Best frame of all time. You clearly have not watched much snooker if any, other than this game.
@MarkEWallace
@MarkEWallace 3 жыл бұрын
Orrrrr…..you could just let him have his opinion and not be an azzhole about it.
@michaelmcdermott2810
@michaelmcdermott2810 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkEWallace That's why there's a comments section, so folk can give their own opinions .. azzhole.
@MarkEWallace
@MarkEWallace 3 жыл бұрын
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@Kidsgrove49
@Kidsgrove49 8 жыл бұрын
This format encourages more attacking play. Higgins was 125 behind at the start of the final frame so HE had to attack. Very soon Hendry could afford to play exhibition snooker as he has won anyway. Interesting to see the one player at the end of his career and the other at the beginning.
@planesstevee
@planesstevee 5 жыл бұрын
lol the commentary was awesome back then!
@danielelston7457
@danielelston7457 3 жыл бұрын
Alex Higgins changed the game from defence to attack. Stephen Hendry took that mantle and the game of snooker never looked back. Stephen also went to Alex Higgins funeral, he’s a nice guy.
@bigjoemaggie5267
@bigjoemaggie5267 Жыл бұрын
Hendry absolutely ruined snooker. So drab it's not funny.
@huepix
@huepix Жыл бұрын
@@bigjoemaggie5267 true. I mean, no one even plays anymore because of him 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
@andrewjohnston2850
@andrewjohnston2850 Жыл бұрын
@@bigjoemaggie5267 yes how dare he be so consistent over so many years!
@bigjoemaggie5267
@bigjoemaggie5267 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewjohnston2850 consistently useless.
@jama211
@jama211 Жыл бұрын
@@bigjoemaggie5267 There is something broken within you to talk like this, you should be ashamed of yourself.
@josephd.2725
@josephd.2725 6 жыл бұрын
I remember this classic snooker commentator as a child. Most badass commentator ever!
@nathanwilliams2152
@nathanwilliams2152 Жыл бұрын
Ted Lowe - RIP sir
@buckholdboy967
@buckholdboy967 Жыл бұрын
Whispering Ted Lowe I think,can never be bettered.
@siddharthakousik6118
@siddharthakousik6118 8 жыл бұрын
18 year old Stephen Hendry potting balls like this? He'd go long way in the coming years I believe :P
@Bucketheadhead
@Bucketheadhead 4 жыл бұрын
He’d become the most successful snooker player of all time
@Dinobaburas.
@Dinobaburas. 4 жыл бұрын
He is and was.
@malikjamshed1207
@malikjamshed1207 6 жыл бұрын
This is amazing to watch I haven’t seen potting like this before,both were up to mark.
@TheKaluNaama
@TheKaluNaama 4 жыл бұрын
it was shit man. the pockets had to be huge.
@chrisjenkins5846
@chrisjenkins5846 4 жыл бұрын
Massive pockets. ..I do this kind of potting down the club
@SM-qg1rh
@SM-qg1rh 3 жыл бұрын
Aaron Dale Here he is again 😂 Stop it
@hksunchaser1
@hksunchaser1 7 жыл бұрын
Higgins shows his class and the sportsmanship at the end of game
@brianearl8347
@brianearl8347 Жыл бұрын
great too see stephen hendry make alex higgins look like an amatuer
@naturalrestingface4909
@naturalrestingface4909 3 жыл бұрын
Only one of those players is making me turn my black & white TV on! Hendry, the better player but Alex at his best is like Hendrix.
@andrewmiller6092
@andrewmiller6092 4 жыл бұрын
Best player fr the game and maverick was Higgins.then came along the world champion Henry.wat a break builder.cool as cucumber under pressure
@djharto4917
@djharto4917 8 жыл бұрын
What about the 2002 semi final?? When Ronnie said he would take great pleasure in sending him back to Scotland?? Hendry pummelled him with a session to spare
@kc-qs8qg
@kc-qs8qg 3 жыл бұрын
no he didn't - 17-13 i think
@davidr3789
@davidr3789 3 жыл бұрын
@@kc-qs8qg Was it 17-13 though? Or was he pummeled in the end with a session to spare. Two conflicting opinions. Wow, this is more exciting than this shitehawk of a so-called best frame of the match.
@kc-qs8qg
@kc-qs8qg 3 жыл бұрын
17-13 yes
@davidr3789
@davidr3789 3 жыл бұрын
@@kc-qs8qg Thanks k c. A voice of reason. Take care 👍
@PomBare
@PomBare 2 жыл бұрын
It was a brilliant game played at an incredible standard, so much so Willie Thorne said he had tears in his eyes at the end of the first day's play. Wouldn't call it a pummeling because O'Sullivan played superbly well and they were neck and neck right up until the final session when Hendry pulled away. Hendry's best win I reckon, and tbh a good loss for O'Sullivan, he regretted making the comments and learned humility.
@mickyscott1
@mickyscott1 8 жыл бұрын
We're playing snooker here for entertainment ..none of the others made a contribution like Higgens...live with it !
@cabingamefever2779
@cabingamefever2779 6 ай бұрын
Alex has the most reckless cueing stance and composure of any player yet its just magic when he hits a shot. Jerky, zero follow through, sideways wobble on the rest and yet magic everytime. Incredible player
@chrisjohnson4165
@chrisjohnson4165 Жыл бұрын
Amazing long potting!!
@muckle8
@muckle8 Ай бұрын
A total POTFEST ! - love it.
@jimmynich4791
@jimmynich4791 3 жыл бұрын
What event is this with the scoring total points? Never seen this format before.
@stodd539st
@stodd539st 8 жыл бұрын
@ Hafeez... You sir, have hit the nail on the head exactly with your latest comment.... Because nowadays there's so many ranking tournaments available for titles/points made Hendry's titles and achievements all the more special/exceptional. He did it exactly when was required ,(which is what 'the' greatest champions always do) , and made all the more difficult because there were so few ranking tournaments in - comparison with professional Snooker today. One more reason why he's the greatest professional player ever to pick up a cue.
@abu-175
@abu-175 3 жыл бұрын
Hendry playing ao quick. Wicked long pots, plants. It's like he was playing pool.
@EvelcyclopS
@EvelcyclopS 7 жыл бұрын
Pockets ARE like buckets!
@tullmonkey
@tullmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
The balls were much bigger though.
@GetMeThere1
@GetMeThere1 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how much the game has improved over the last 33 years.
@stephanoconnor4823
@stephanoconnor4823 3 жыл бұрын
U are jokin
@alanodonovan5487
@alanodonovan5487 6 жыл бұрын
That crowd is very hard to impressive, long shot after long shot, some extremely difficult pots one after another I couldn’t believe the quality of potting I just watched
@johnsrabe
@johnsrabe 4 жыл бұрын
Alan O donovan, at that point they already knew the outcome.
@michaelparanormal
@michaelparanormal 4 жыл бұрын
No rails on the pockets, great potting from both players!
@yewdanial4671
@yewdanial4671 8 жыл бұрын
amazing match nice long shot..
@gutz323
@gutz323 4 жыл бұрын
Out with the old, and in with the new.
@pearcegreatesteverleftback03
@pearcegreatesteverleftback03 8 жыл бұрын
Hurricane Higgins will always be my snooker hero, he made the sport single handed. RIP ALEX
@taotoo2
@taotoo2 7 жыл бұрын
That table is one big pocket
@kennethtalbott2233
@kennethtalbott2233 3 жыл бұрын
outstanding potting from the two best players of the game.
@craigsutherland4726
@craigsutherland4726 4 жыл бұрын
He was the jockey Wilson of snooker but cleaner. How they hit their targets with the arm all over the place. GBNF 🇬🇧💙🙏
@stodd539st
@stodd539st 9 жыл бұрын
Youssef, If you look at the head to head stats... I think it's 9-6 to o Sullivan. But... Hendry won more of the 'bigger tournamen' t head to head matches basically. Because he was always the bigger tournament match player. Plus i will never forget the final frame decider in the Liverpool Victoria, and hendry knocked in a 147 in the final frame - in the final against o Sullivan. Hendry had peaked by the time o Sullivan got in his stride. Shame he retired though.
@jamesmcdevitt5327
@jamesmcdevitt5327 3 жыл бұрын
Good video I never knew they even played each other
@richardedwards9389
@richardedwards9389 4 жыл бұрын
Never seen this format...was it on BBC?
@azerty5335
@azerty5335 8 жыл бұрын
Stephen letting look the pockets look like buckets and the balls as little pills... LOL
@Ismail-zd9gp
@Ismail-zd9gp 2 жыл бұрын
Man! Young stephan hendry was a machine.
@JohnSmith-su3ze
@JohnSmith-su3ze 7 жыл бұрын
Higgins 69 brea is worth more than all of Hendry's 147's put together
@oddsandwindsocks5905
@oddsandwindsocks5905 3 жыл бұрын
What game is this, I don't understand the amount of points
@mickharrison9004
@mickharrison9004 5 ай бұрын
For me alexes potting was and is underated he was a sensational potter ,if you look closer over the years with his epic support ,not even Ronnie comes close to the hurricane who did it the hard way ,leaving home at a young age alone to take on and conquer the world 👊
@johndugdale145
@johndugdale145 5 ай бұрын
"not even ronnie" :D hahahahahahahahahaha good man
@mickharrison9004
@mickharrison9004 5 ай бұрын
@@johndugdale145 you obviously haven't watched many of the hurricanes majestic pots ,keep your sht to yourself eh .
@johnpaulmcdonnell1188
@johnpaulmcdonnell1188 3 ай бұрын
@@johndugdale145 For talent and shot making you could argue he's right up there with the best to do it. If there was a ridiculous hard shot and your life was on the line, I'd want an at his best Hurricane taking that shot for me. He's very similar to George Best in what could have been, bags of natural talent derailed by demons and addiction. Still despite his afflictions and utterly chaotic life, he's a triple crown winner, won everything to win in the sport, when you consider the severity of his afflictions the fact he achieved that feat speaks volumes for his talent. The man was going out on the piss all night and then turning up and competing at a very high level. If he'd had the mentality/temperament of a Steve Davis I believe he'd have won far more but that's just speculation on my part.
@sheikhirfan5357
@sheikhirfan5357 7 жыл бұрын
Love u Jimmy and alex
@markodoherty2939
@markodoherty2939 3 жыл бұрын
The ref was in a bad mood that day ,tone of his voice
@choppy249
@choppy249 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that at first but then I realised it’s just because he’s an Aussie .
@irresistible743
@irresistible743 Жыл бұрын
Hendry was the greatest long potter ever for me.
@stodd539st
@stodd539st 8 жыл бұрын
@ Hafeez Khan, Agreed too - well said !
@benflannaghan4204
@benflannaghan4204 2 ай бұрын
Higgins was only top player to practice with young Hendry. Class from Hendry to say as much at Higgins funeral and to credit him for his success
@indrekkpringi
@indrekkpringi 6 жыл бұрын
Higgins hits angles and long shots I've never seen anyone else do Long pots with impossible angles How does he do it?
@haworthtrevor
@haworthtrevor 3 жыл бұрын
You have to forget all of the misses.
@indrekkpringi
@indrekkpringi 3 жыл бұрын
@@haworthtrevor Also: Higgins hit the Q-ball harder than anyone has ever hit it. usually the harder you hit a ball the greater chance of a mistake but not Higgins. Nobody ever hit the ball as hard as he did.
@Tawny6702
@Tawny6702 2 жыл бұрын
Remember the dreary late night…..nobody’s really watching episodes of Pot Black? Because what happened next brought the game a whole new audience and on to prime time TV and the fortunes to be made in prize money! That what happened next was Alex Hurricane Higgins and the old man’s game became a young man’s dream of being just like him!
@run6181
@run6181 9 жыл бұрын
As much as players like Jimmy White and Ronnie osullivan have all the natural ability in the world it is Stephen Hendry who is the best player of all time.He just never made any mistakes.He pinched frames with a pressure clearance he could win with a lead or from behind.He could win playing at his best or if he was having an off day(something that Ronnie and Jimmy struggled with).Jimmy White was always my favourite player when at his best he produced sheer magic but Hendry has to be the GREATEST
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 8 жыл бұрын
+Run 61 Ronnie is the greatest ever, far better than Hendry ever was. Hendry only won so much because he played in a weak era.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 8 жыл бұрын
+David Shreeves Here's what I meant: Hendry only faced a few good players in order to win his titles. Nowadays there are so many great players and the standard has risen so much. Snooker is a global sport, the world no. 40 has a chance to beat the world no. 1. That's was unconceivable in Hendry's time. I am not judging on 100 breaks. You just have to compare the players ranked top 16 back then against the top 16 of today and you will see what I'm talking about. David Roe, Darren Morgan, Terry Griffits and Willie Thorne were top 16 players. Now tell me: do you honestly think they stand a chance against's today's pro's ? Hell, even a young kid like Luca Brecel would whoop their asses, and he would do it with ease. Also, you just have to look at Hendry's game and compare it to that of Ronnie. Hendry was a great potter and breakbuilder, but that's about it. Ronnie has a much better all-round game: he is a great potter and breakbuilder, a great safety and tactical player. The only edge that Hendry has is his superior mental toughness, but Ronnie has improved at that too this last few years. Anyway, my ultimate proof that Ronnie is better is the 92 break he made in the 2012 WC final against Ali Carter. Hendry couldn't of made that break if his life depended on it.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 8 жыл бұрын
David Shreeves "The main difference is that there are more good players at the same time than there was in 1980's, so competition is better and each game has better standards, but that doesn't mean that these players are better than the older ones!" Yes it does mean that these new players are better than the older ones. Things have evolved in every sport, that goes 4 snooker too. As 4 centuries, Ronnie has a better average than any other player. Ronnie at 100% would beat Hendry at 100%, so that makes him the best ever. John Higgins is second best (even though he's a cheater)
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 8 жыл бұрын
+David Shreeves "Even Dennis Taylor said that there are more great players around than in 1980's, so this only makes it harder to dominate!" That means that Ronnie's 5 WC are more impressive than Hendry's 7, since he won them in a tougher era. "Things only evolve due to better coaching and the money in the game now means that they spend more time practicing. They couldn't do this years ago, because they were doing exhibitions!"; Snooker as a sport was bigger in the 80's than it is now, especially in the UK. They practiced back then too, in case you didn't know. And the money has only increased in the last 3-4 years, but if you account inflation, the prizes now have about the same value they had in the 80's and 90's. As 4 the balls, they were heavier in the 70's and 80's, they improved a lot in the 90's. Higgins beat a young Hendry, and Higgins was a great player. "As I previously said, their income came from exhibitions and the conditions just didn't allow them to take their best game into competitions!" BULLSHIT. Good players made a great living back then, only weak ones could not make enough money. "The main difference is that the older players will be remembered far more and that is showed in the legends tour. Who wants to watch a legends game between Robertson and Selby, because it's bad enough watching them now and the aforementioned is more about seeing and listening to the older stars; the ones that the crowd still want to see and listen to!" Selby is a boring cunt, that's why nobody wants to watch him play. As 4 older players, just like today's players, only a few are worth watching. I wouldn't watch Cliff Thorburn play if someone would pay me. "Snooker is a hard game, but today's players only know how to play because they saw others do that in the past!" Who cares about the reason ?!? WTF...I only pointed out that today's players are better than the old ones. It's irrelevant how they got better. In most sports things have evolved, new sportsman are better than the old ones. If we take a player from the past and put him to train with modern equipment, maybe he would be close or just as good as today's players. When it comes to snooker, however, equipment hasn't improved by that much. The cloth is a little faster and the balls are slightly lighter, but that's a bout it. Cues are pretty much the same, the table has the same length, same pocket size. I see that you failed to understand what I was saying. My point is that S. Davis or Hendry at their best are not as good as Ronnie at his best. I don't care why they are not, or how Ronnie got better, he simply is the greatest player in the history of snooker up to this moment.
@michaeltrumph121
@michaeltrumph121 8 жыл бұрын
+David Shreeves "You have to compare the players which Ronnie and Hendry beat to win those finals, but during Hendry's latter years when his game had deteriorated, he still had problems beating Hendry and this must mean that Ronnie would have had trouble defeating him in any of the finals which Hendry won!" Is this a joke ? During Hendry's latter years, Ronnie whooped the floor with him, in 2 WC semifinals. He beat him 17-4 in 2004 and 17-8 in 2008 (and in 2004 Hendry was only 34 years old, that's by no means old). As 4 the opponents they faced, there isn't even a debate. Ronnie's opposition was so much better, and I'm not only talking about finals, but about the road to the final. "With the money to earn today, every player would take the game more seriously and that's what money does!" Plenty of players took the game seriously back then too, and they practiced every day. The thing is, not all of them were good enough to win, so they had to resort to other means of making a living (you mentioned exhibitions). And since in my original post I said that Hendry only won so much because he played in a weaker era, I was talking about the early 90's. 250 000 pounds was the prize that the WC receives for about 2 decades. They only increased it to 300 000 since 2014. "John Higgins never missed during his final versus Trump, but could he have done that against Hendry or Davis?" Of course he could have done it. He was under pressure throughout that final. If he manged to do it under those conditions, I see no reason why he couldn';t have done it against Davis or Hendry, taking into account the fact that Trump is a better potter than both. Since Hendry was all about attack, his safety being average at best, Higgins would have bested him with ease. As 4 Davis, his attacking game is average compared to that of Trump, so his only weapon is his defensive game. Since Higgins is better at that too, it's basically a non-contest. "Ronnie up against all of these on form could only rely on clearing up to win frames, but they were far better at safety shots and could put the ball in places which made it difficult to pot or to leave the cue ball safe!" WRONG, he wouldn't just rely on clearing up to win frames. That's what Hendry did/relied on and that's why he went downhill like a rock once his attacking game started to deteriorate. The man basically had no safety or defensive game, it was average at best. As 4 Ronnie, his all-round game is far superior to that of Hendry and Davis. If Ronnie wants to play a safety/tactical game, he'll outplay Davis with ease. "Why is it irrelevant as to why they can play better, because in 15 or 20 years time there will be even more better players and you will then have to argue with somebody like me to say how good these ones were and how they made the game easier!" If/When better players come along, I'll just acknowledge it, it's not that big of a deal. Sports evolve all the time. This is what I don't get about you: 1. you're trying to explain why modern players are better than the old ones 2. you're saying that the old ones could have reached the same level of play under the right circumstances. When it comes to the first one: I don't care why, all I'm saying is that modern players are better, there are more good players nowadays (making it harder 4 one to dominate), the standard has evolved. That's why I rank Ronnie above Hendry: he faced tougher opposition and can play the game to a higher standard. As 4 the second point, I agree with you, but then again, it's irrelevant. "what you fail to understand that is that if Ronnie plays against an opponent which is at his best the he will get beat or be run close and there's nothing he can do about that!" Ronnie is human, he can win or loose just like any other player. My only point was that his 100% is higher than any other player's 100%. And I gave you as an example his 92 break vs Carter. There are several others, like his clearance against Dave Harold in 2008, etc. Davis and Hendry wouldn't have been able to do that if their lives depended on it, thus illustrating Ronnie's superiority. "No good in being the best if nobody wants to watch you and even Ray Reardon is still popular and because he was great to watch!" WE ARE in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I assume you're referring to Davis or Hendry, cause nobody wanted to watch them in their primes. In recent years, Davis has become a great guy to watch and listen, but back the he wasn't, and that's a big loss 4 snooker. Ronnie has always been loved by the fans and everyone wants to see him play. Same goes 4 legends like Alex Higgins and Jimmy White. No doubting Stephen Hendry's wonderful record, but this game is certainly about more than just numbers. Hendry feels now and has always felt that winning was the most important thing. That is the surface aim of every player but Hendry forgets that without the fans there simply is no game and therefore he misses the important value of entertainment which is what sport really is. Alex Higgins made this game lest we forget! Given Stephen Hendry has won 7 world titles, I doubt if the average snooker fan would remember or care to recall a moment or single shot from those 7 world titles. Hendry has never understood that winning 7 times does notbuy you the love of the fans because we see clearly that winning is his be all and end all. I have never seen in his play a natural love of the game as displayed by Alex Higgins, Jimmy White, or Ronnie O'Sullivan. Hendry is very foolish in thinking that his titles grant him automatic love and respect from the fans. Deep down he really expects this. It's the way you play the game that earns you the affection. This is why those who witnessed Alex Higgins's 69 break will never forget it. Hendry made however many 147's but would anyone ever forget Ronnie's record 147 in 1997 or Kirk Stevens in the Masters. As I said before, Hendry wouldn't have won as much in today's era. Whilst there is great admiration for Hendry the sportsman, competitor and winner, I am questioning the very definition of greatness. I am making the argument against facts, figures and records. You are entitled to use that benchmark as many do but i think the game is more than just numbers. Secondly, you have to understand that there are shots that Hendry or Davis would simply never attempt...for fear of losing. This is not the case with Alex Higgins, Jimmy White or O'Sullivan. Its the difference between winning at all costs or trying something impossible just to see if it would come off. An example is the blue into the top right Alex Higgins made against White in that famous 69 break.You also have to understand how snooker became popular and attracted viewers. The answer and widely accepted "fact" is Alexander Gordon Higgins. You can have players who pot balls very well or you can have players who make the balls "talk". Without Higgins, White, Ronnie and now Trump there is now game to watch! Greatness is more than winning. Sport is a game yes. It's moreover entertainment though. There has to be charisma, grace, personality,courage. It's not the winning always that defines greatness. I'm sorry but Stephen Hendry just does not fill that description. Ronnie really doesn't need any more titles or records to prove he is the greatest as every shot is a joy to watch. Artistry over droids any day! PS: It's nice talking with you, because we have a civilized discussion
@samkel7y570
@samkel7y570 3 жыл бұрын
No explanation of the weird score: 235 to 334. Presumably total points over x number of frames. That didn't catch on.
@CS-mo7xp
@CS-mo7xp 3 жыл бұрын
"it's a 5 frame aggregate", says someone way down in the other comments... I don't know why they did this though.
@chunkis00
@chunkis00 7 жыл бұрын
never seen pockets so big! Great table for potting and hendry took full advantage lol
@JesseThehuSnooker
@JesseThehuSnooker 4 жыл бұрын
most of modern players arent even able to wobble these pots
@diyarbakr7184
@diyarbakr7184 4 жыл бұрын
Does this pockets have any different from now ?
@alanfizzypop9607
@alanfizzypop9607 6 сағат бұрын
Alex must have wondered what hit him Stevens later career showed him to be a new different level thankfully he retired when his game went downhill
@Dat-yi4iz
@Dat-yi4iz 3 жыл бұрын
Total legend how he could cue straight with that twitch bit like jockey Wilson in darts but all part of Higgins charm and appeal don’t know if his opponent done anything in the game haha
@Philiopantheon82
@Philiopantheon82 2 жыл бұрын
2:28 The pocket appearing like a bucket now
@guyarcher8510
@guyarcher8510 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the best potting exhibition I've ever seen. Seeing that makes it hard for me to say O'sullivan is a greater player, just different. I couldn't decide on that one.
@dingdong289
@dingdong289 3 жыл бұрын
Just open your eyes. Ronnie 100's with either hand says it all !!
@guyarcher8510
@guyarcher8510 3 жыл бұрын
@@dingdong289 So being ambidextrous is the main thing then? Hendry was better.
@johndean4765
@johndean4765 Жыл бұрын
Guy Archer I agree re you can't say one was better than the other yes Sullivan more creative but Hendry just as good break builder and very importantly more bottle under real pressure.
@genghisk4808
@genghisk4808 3 жыл бұрын
Just WOW, like all players can play sometimes.
@markalanrudings3657
@markalanrudings3657 2 жыл бұрын
Unreal how he never keeps his head down on shots!!!
@tomjc147
@tomjc147 3 жыл бұрын
Aaah the old days, when snooker was snooker... and camera's were potatoes 🤣
@DingKong
@DingKong 8 жыл бұрын
Ted Lowe made snooker better than it really was.
@Teeb2023
@Teeb2023 7 жыл бұрын
That was certainly the job of the older generation of commentators, and they certainly had their work cut out for them with the likes of Thorburn, Griffiths & co... Slow doesn't even begin to describe their play. Jazzing-up the commentary was essential back then.
@johnp515
@johnp515 7 жыл бұрын
Anthony Rodemus Tell us in which way Ted Lowe "jazzed up" his commentary?
@bonzodog6872
@bonzodog6872 7 жыл бұрын
John P another tapestry of snooker woven by steve davis
@logicalnetwork1611
@logicalnetwork1611 4 жыл бұрын
Retro Brothers snooker was at its most competitive in 1970s -1990s
@carrington8999
@carrington8999 3 жыл бұрын
The levels on show here are unreachable by normal standards.
@Matty6660
@Matty6660 9 жыл бұрын
was there no such thing as position in 1987?
@willyoldfox
@willyoldfox 9 жыл бұрын
looks as if they didnt need it. unbelievable long potting
@6MaxSix6
@6MaxSix6 9 жыл бұрын
They looked like they were playing it more as an exhibition than a serious frame. Alex knew he'd lost by this point and there was little on the line so. Don't doubt the talent of either of these two based on this.
@davethecrow
@davethecrow 9 жыл бұрын
Matty6660 shut it
@vincesplc
@vincesplc 9 жыл бұрын
Matty6660 BULLSHITTER!!
@healthiswealth7899
@healthiswealth7899 8 жыл бұрын
he lost by 1 point so he had a chance
@stephenfradley8581
@stephenfradley8581 8 жыл бұрын
anyone notice the pockets have bags,no runners.
@mickrodgers4294
@mickrodgers4294 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion two of the best there, if there was no Alex Higgins there would be no jimmy white then no Ronnie. It always needs that spark and Higgins was it, and I believe hendry was the best Potter of all time, no one would beat him when he was top of his game. smaller pockets then as well even though they don't admit it!!!!
@MasterNeoRNCP
@MasterNeoRNCP Жыл бұрын
I heard young Henry's long potting is unbelievable. I would say they are unreal.
@davecooper6540
@davecooper6540 10 ай бұрын
His downfall was mainly psychological. If he had invested time with a sports psychologist like Ronnie he might’ve had a bit more longevity and 1 or 2 more world titles. The mental pressure took its toll on Stephen I feel, these days for top athletes sports psychologists are very important.
@davidgladwin3788
@davidgladwin3788 8 жыл бұрын
CLIFF THORBURNS 147 BREAK WAS ABOVE FANTASTIC WOW
@JustAlex1994
@JustAlex1994 8 жыл бұрын
+David Gladwin Completely irrelevant on this video but ok.. I do agree though having said that.
@randommadness1021
@randommadness1021 4 жыл бұрын
What was the script with the scores? Were they playing for points, not frames?
@calmeilles
@calmeilles 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. All matches were decided on the aggregate score over five frames. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Australian_Masters
@PomBare
@PomBare 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like the old club tables with big pockets. The shot at 6:23 wouldn't threaten the pocket on a modern table, but it quite comfortably drops in off the jaw here.
@gmonkey6523
@gmonkey6523 6 жыл бұрын
If my life depended on a pot then I would not turn to Ronnie, Alex, S Davis it would have to be Stephen Hendry. He took snooker to a whole new level and set the modern standard. However Ronnie is the genius.
@victorurra8286
@victorurra8286 3 жыл бұрын
Alex .leyenda
@pussiestroker
@pussiestroker 8 жыл бұрын
Folks play differently today, alot more cautious for the right readon imo.
@nigefal
@nigefal 8 жыл бұрын
+Pussystroker is that a pun on Ray Reardon? :)
@memoryfish12
@memoryfish12 2 ай бұрын
Love and respect to the old boys, but these pockets are huge
@Bugzey9999
@Bugzey9999 9 жыл бұрын
the commentator is the same guy from the movie 300 i guess
@Bucketheadhead
@Bucketheadhead 9 жыл бұрын
Ammar Abdrabboh It's Ted Lowe
@michaelpearce9422
@michaelpearce9422 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah Its Ted Lowe..and he was dead 20 years before '300' movie was made..moron
@nigelprosser5692
@nigelprosser5692 4 жыл бұрын
Haha
@richiebabic72000
@richiebabic72000 7 жыл бұрын
those pockets were buckets ! today half of them shots would not have gone it
@chriscoleman6411
@chriscoleman6411 6 жыл бұрын
What format are they playing here??
@birdandthe
@birdandthe 8 жыл бұрын
best frame of all time ???? what a laugh
@DemonAsh40
@DemonAsh40 8 жыл бұрын
Deffo Stephen Hendry
@PeterRatcliffe
@PeterRatcliffe 2 жыл бұрын
Some great pots to the corner
@jaaayj5474
@jaaayj5474 9 жыл бұрын
I never recalled Hendry ever playing this quick? Maybe speeding his game up because he was playing Alex ?
@hafeezkhan7424
@hafeezkhan7424 8 жыл бұрын
+Jaaay J he played like this from 85 till 1991.
@davidgladwin3788
@davidgladwin3788 8 жыл бұрын
HENDRY AWESOME BEYOND BELIVE
@drunkbyu7515
@drunkbyu7515 7 жыл бұрын
they shoot like they're mad at the table n the only time you'll see a pro player sitting there having a cig on national TV lol
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg 6 жыл бұрын
You do realise this was the 80's, right, you could pollute the air with filthy cigarette smoke anywhere you wanted to in those days.
@ianwilliamson2980
@ianwilliamson2980 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of players smoked then you know .
@ryangillen7618
@ryangillen7618 7 жыл бұрын
How were they on more than 147?
@margarita8442
@margarita8442 2 жыл бұрын
anyhow have a winfield !!!
@jamesmcdevitt5327
@jamesmcdevitt5327 3 жыл бұрын
If you haven’t seen it’s a must watch for snooker fans the rat pack think it wa called about Davis and higgings rivalry
@hamsteringaround2908
@hamsteringaround2908 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen snooker scored in this way. It’s usually who wins the most frames.
@MattBridger
@MattBridger 3 жыл бұрын
I love how modern fans try and slag Alex off. You have no idea.
@OriginalThisAndThat
@OriginalThisAndThat 8 жыл бұрын
That commentator.. :DDD But anyways.. Old snoker looks like more like for guts and glory..
@002DrEvil
@002DrEvil 3 жыл бұрын
Strange rules. I would have thought Alex would have tried for snookers to get more points. Not much point potting all the balls if you still end up losing.
@broken1394
@broken1394 Жыл бұрын
This a boxing match!!
@januszbogusz1103
@januszbogusz1103 8 жыл бұрын
What a balls.
@unclejoe7958
@unclejoe7958 Жыл бұрын
Stephen the sharp shooter. Alex the risk taking technician.
@ajs41
@ajs41 6 жыл бұрын
What the hell is the scoring system at the start all about? 167 v 292?
@davidmccarthy6390
@davidmccarthy6390 5 жыл бұрын
it's 5 frame aggregate.
@clavdig
@clavdig 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Ebdon in this format
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