Alexa Enabled WIFI Light Switch | NO NEUTRAL REQUIRED! UK + US + EU

[@paulhibbert]

Morning all! I found out last night that the Smart Home Expo is delayed due to Coronavirus so you can disregard the end message for now :( I hope I will be able to get the time off work when it is reorganised, watch this space! Light switch links below!... As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. By buying through any of the links below I will earn commission at no extra cost to you :) AMAZON LINKS Wifi Light Switch UK No Neutral: amzn.to/2Tndgl8 Wifi Light Swtich US No Neutral: amzn.to/2TC31th Wifi Light Swtich US Alternative (Neutral required): amzn.to/2x5GRH4 ALIEXPRESS LINKS Wifi Light Switch UK No Neutral: bit.ly/32SpbdS Wifi Light Switch US No Neutral: bit.ly/2VLXWjG

[@garethjones5068]

Bugger! I'm down that way on that weekend so was going to go 😟

[@ErykTV]

Good, safety first :)

[@Andrewstech]

@@garethjones5068 Same

[@garethjones5068]

@@Andrewstech I suspect my daughter will be pleased that I won't be dragging her around gadget geek heaven now 😆

[@Vampiraheq2]

Paul Hibbert Lutron Caseta does not need neutral wire.

[@AlanLifeson]

You are quite right "Samsung are not Chinese" they are Korean. :)

[@paulhibbert]

Of course! That's precisely what I meant 😂😂😂

[@paulmiddleton7134]

I literally said that too after he said it 😀

[@jacknapoli7307]

Literally came here for this comment lol

[@Jimmy_Jones]

Poor Samsung. Paul obviously disregards any information about them. Lol.

[@TheOvadex]

I was thinking the same thing, then I ran it through my sarcasm filter and realized what he was getting at. lol

[@dave412r]

Did you ever find a dimmer switch with no neutral ?

[@smithleon]

Bought, installed, game-changer! now have smart control of a very hard to reach garage light switch controlling a florescent tube light. Brilliant! Even have a routine setup to switch it on when triggered from an Echo Flex motion detector as I walk in. Perfect. No resistor needed either. Looks like a nicely made bit of kit too.

[@n-flem222]

Leon, was this using IFTTT or an Alexa Routine? I'd love it if it worked with Alexa or SmartThings to trigger other devices

[@smithleon]

@@n-flem222 Hi Nige. The light switch uses the Smart Life app which is supported by Alexa so i'm using an Alexa routine using the Echo Flex motion sensor as a trigger. Still working brilliantly a few months on.

[@n-flem222]

@@smithleon Thanks for the quick reply! So you can use a motion sensor as a trigger to turn the light on, superb! Can you also use the switch as a trigger using Alexa routines? So, when the switch is turned on it could turn on another device (other than the connected lights), or play music etc. Paul mentioned IFTTT could do this but that's becoming less usefull now unless you pay.

[@smithleon]

@@n-flem222 You can't use the switch on/off as a trigger in an Alexa routine, but you CAN use it as a trigger in the Smart life app, so I have a little automation in that which turns on a 2nd light in the garage if the first one is activated. Basically there is a light at each end so an automation switches on the 'other' one depending on which one is pressed...or both of them via the motion sensor. Alexa routines are good and I use them a lot but the triggers are a bit limiting I think. Hopefully that will improve.

[@n-flem222]

@@smithleon Thanks for your help Leon I don't suppose you know whether it can also be a 2/3 way switch? So one switch at the top of the stairs, one at the bottom etc?

[@CaptainMarmite]

Your right. Samsung aren’t Chinese. They are Korean !! Well spotted 🤦‍♂️

[@19gresham]

Following three minutes of adjusting to your style Paul, I've come to relish the prospect of new content from you. Your devilish but essentially decent and fair approach have informed some recent purchasing decisions and consequently, as a pleased customer, I can vouch for your judgement. As to your delivery, your humour masks an otherwise steely and ballsy resolve and I'm further appreciative of your production values; your contributions don't edit themselves. Much appreciated Paul and hope to see many more offerings. P.S electricians weren't born all knowing and faultless - these character traits take time to hone : ) .... caveat emptor - you mean well.

[@paulhibbert]

I love how my style requires adjustment 🤣

[@glynn1301]

Just fitted my switch. It’s brilliant. My issue I have a better half that leaves the utility room light on all the time. Fitted this and set countdown timer to turn off after 10 mins in case it’s left on. Works perfectly. Thanks Paul.

[@liamjones4053]

You can get Fibaro dimmers that can fit behind your switch plate in conjunction with a momentary switch. They can be wired in either with or without a neutral

[@Megamush707]

As an electrician I appreciate your trying to get people to isolate correctly. You can use multimeter they just have to be set right. Also lightwave switches can dim and do not require a neutral but I think the require a hub to work with alexa

[@akastewart]

LightwaveRF does indeed require their Gen 2 hub… ~£130/$170, so…

[@LauraRachelCannon]

Funniest VT on a potentially boring subject, which we want to know more about. It is difficult to find the balance between entertainment and information. You nailed it!

[@rajang0]

Some I LumoS dimmer switches don't need a neutral, but you need to use the Broadlink RF hub to control them

[@ewanmurray153]

Ah the good old lick and touch test...works every time

[@paulhibbert]

It certainly is the quickest way to check for the presence of electricity! 😂

[@garethjones5068]

I always use this test to see if someone..... I mean SOMETHING is turned on 😳

[@leighemmerson]

Or just turn the light on. Then turn the power off. If the light has gone off - there's a very good chance you've isolated it!

[@markloughtonUK]

@@leighemmerson That's usually about the extent of my testing :)

[@jasonJSilva]

Hey Paul, just thought I'd let you know that inovelli makes a zwave switch that has dimming and also led notifications that doesnt require a neutral. The possibilities are insane in terms of customizability! P.s I love your vids mate!

[@Roboticexile]

Sadly, they don't make products suitable for use in the EU or UK, or anywhere other than North America. It's a shame, as it looks like a cool piece of kit.

[@RealWizardry]

Samsung aren’t Chinese. They’re Korean. But I get your point. Isn’t Tuya now out of favour? I’m sure you mentioned that there’s something better out there these days - did I miss it? I do want it working with ifttt.

[@chrishoggett1375]

More 1950’s ads please! That cracked me up :))

[@rimosky]

I've got three of these now, they are great so far, the Mrs loves them too. I went for the two gang versions even though the switches I'm replacing are single gang... This means the second switch can be used for other stuff without having to wire it to anything, you can even automate one switch from another switch (sort of) to make a kind of two way switch.

[@xmn4578]

did you face any problem like flashing or something similar to it? and also, did you use a capacitor to solve this issue?

[@guylast9516]

I just turn the light on and then turn the breaker for that lights off. If the light turns off while the switch is still on, then ur good to go.

[@starmole5000]

Lol yeah surely!

[@Lejackal]

[@starmole5000]

@@Lejackal good to know thx

[@lefty5349]

But.... what if the globe happen to blow while you were off switching the wrong breaker off.

[@paulhibbert]

NOBODY FOLLOW THIS ADVICE! if things are wired up weird then there could still be live cables back there. ALWAYS switch the breaker off and ALWAYS use a multimeter.

[@JamesMyland]

could you include the model number or a link to the product on amazon, i've bought loads that look the same but all seem to require a neutral

[@billc.riemers3245]

It is actually fairly easy to do a wifi dimming capable switch without that neutral wire. But it requires either a batter or a super capacitor. I haven't seen any on the market yet.

[@David-bl1bt]

So..... Not "fairly easy" then lol

[@leighemmerson]

Although it does need the hub, the Lightwave RF dimmers do not need a neutral. I have them all over my house and as long as you use them with Megaman GU10 led bulbs, they work flawlessly.

[@martinlewis1015]

Do an update of reliability after using for a while. Some reviews have found switching on by itself

[@craigporteous]

I have this Martin. One and off by itself. Do you have any links or solutions? Ta

[@tomp.8129]

If you have any issues contact sellers, they would normally have solution or money back. Does happen some times with some switches.

[@ian_morg]

I gave up on fitting these due to my wiring having the neutral in the ceiling rose, after subscribing to your channel after watching the govee strip light video, this one popped up as a suggested vid so thank you for doing this. I know I'm late to this one but it's awesome I can now change my switches. I've also got two kitchen lights that run on separate switches which are at opposite ends from each other so I think I can replace both and configure them to switch both lights on at the same time 😎👍🏼 Thanks again

[@paulhibbert]

❤️😊👍

[@ian_morg]

@@paulhibbert Now I've watched your very funny but very alarming IFTTT videos will I still be able to make one light switch switch on another or did they rely on IFTTT ?

[@666skidda]

tried getting these through amazon through the US and the link is dead, looking to get a few of these for my home

[@coastersteve]

As its live only switch it's impossible to measure the voltage because there's no neutral to measure it from.

[@ElvisCompost]

Good point - one of these would be a much safer solution (but always test on a known live cable before use): www.amazon.co.uk/Neoteck-Non-Contact-12-1000V-Flashlight-Clip-Orange/dp/B01J19H5EE

[@edharding9363]

You can measure it to ground/earth.

[@ElvisCompost]

@@edharding9363: Assuming that earth is present and has been correctly wired. Paul's advice about the possibility that morons may have cabled your house is a good one.

[@edharding9363]

@@ElvisCompost c'mon man, earth is always present, you're standing on it. Wiring Morons are always a possibility though. Most voltage sensors (not multimeters) use a bulb as the indicator and you already have one in the circuit 😉

[@ElvisCompost]

@@edharding9363: Nice wind up Mr Harding. I shall certainly rely on my carpeted wooden floor for an earth. I'm guessing that you live in a mud hut with direct access to soil ;).

[@JohnnyPacmanFitness]

⚠️ Hi! Great video. I just installed the smart switch in my bedroom, which has a twin switch connection, so 2 switches operate the same lights. I replaced the dumb switch with the simpler connection by adding the common to the Neutral whole and L1 & L2 to L and L1 in the smart. The issue is that the other dumb switch doesn’t operate the lights anymore. Any ideas why? Maybe because I connected the N to the common?...

[@akastewart]

I bought and installed both a 1-gang and a 2-gang of these a few months ago, both MOES brand. The 1-gang is unstable at times, with the associated lights switching on seemingly randomly at least a couple of times each day. The 2-gang stops working completely - voice, app or manually - within a few manual uses after setup. (If I use only the app/Alexa, it seems fine, but as soon as I start using it manually, the whole things fails and I need to reset it.) I'm still using the 1-gang, mostly via voice, but I've unset the 2-gang and am using it manually for now. I've not installed the capacitor in either, but will give that a go - even though the symptoms it supposedly helps with aren't those I seem to be having. As a side-note, having the flat, glass-fronted switches aren't so great. So often, I reach out to the turn a light on/off as I enter/exit a room without actually looking at the switch, feeling for the switch itself as I pass. (I imagine that is quite common, even though we don't really think about it.) With flat, glass-fronted switches, it's hit n miss lining up my finger with the small 'hit area' for each switch. Even when looking at it, it's seemingly easy to 'miss' the switch. They might look slick, but I think they're impractical. All in all, I'm pretty unimpressed and couldn't honestly recommend them.

[@n.i.c.k.f.l.e.t.c.h.e.r]

I bought a little pen thing from b&q that beeps and flashes when you hold it to a live power source, it’s a lot cheaper than a multimeter and it’s super convenient

[@Bungsie81]

Nick Fletcher however if your isolated live wire that you’re testing even touches a live wire you haven’t isolated down the line then it’ll show a false live.. (like where cables are threaded through a joints together or a whole in the wall) that’s why people use a multi meter and not those pens.

[@appinventortotaskerandback4284]

That's the best thing with Tuya, just about every tuya device can be a trigger. My driveway light comes on with a PIR sensor at one end, and tells tuya to turn the other one on at the other end. And it's as quick as if they are connected with a wire.

[@anthem400]

Hi Paul, the only dimmer I know of with no neutral is the LightwaveRF at the moment. You need their hub though as they use their own RF protocol. I believe this is because the RF is lower power than WiFi.

[@paulhibbert]

Thanks mate. Yeah, I have a lightwave Rf switch and sockets. Their brain is in the hub which I think is how they've managed to do it in such low power. Energenie have the same setup for cheaper but they aren't as pretty.

[@NigelJudson]

@@paulhibbert Hi Paul. The closest thing I'm aware of is the Fibaro dimmer which z-wave not zigbee. Not cheap either. I have 2 of them, one in my kitchen which has 6 x GU10 bulbs and another in my living room controlling a 3 LED candle style bulbs. They can be a bit fiddly to set up but once working they do a good job. I got mine here: www.vesternet.com/products/z-wave-fibaro-universal-dimmer-2-250w

[@mrmoo1480]

@@NigelJudson Can vouch for the Fibaro Dimmer 2. Has the option to use with or without neutral. Have one behind the dumb-ass switch so can be controlled on and off by technophobes without even knowing its there :-) Need a bit of room in the box to be able to fit behind the switch, but faultless once in place.

[@ChrisKadera]

C by GE has a no neutral wire, no hub, WiFi dimmer. Will be available in the next month or two. It uses a small screw-in widget at the lamp end to get past the neutral wire issue.

[@remyazharyyosef1811]

My concern for these switches that do not require neutral is that they need capacitors. And that still need a qualified electrician to install. So my choice would still be neutral-wired switch. Not to mention that my other light switches are z-wave enabled so it'd be nice to include this switch to my z-wave network. I'm using the MCO Home switch btw.

[@RichPyke]

Couple of problems with these switches... 1. They require the capacitor on the fitting which is not always easy to do. 2. The switches are cheaply made. I had two, neither worked and both fell apart. 3. If you have 2 way switching these become incredibly difficult to wire in. Better off using smart bulbs sometimes.

[@randolphscudder2372]

I can't think of a reason I would really need this, but of course, I'll probably get one or two. Thanks, Paul, for another great video.

[@grahamjones7814]

Dimmer with no Nuteral.... LightwaveRF, my house is full of them. They do need a Hub as they work on RF not WiFi and have super bright LED's that you can control the brightness of. They also do Sockets, relays, heating it's all I really use here. Works with Alexa, Google, Apple HomeKit and IFTTT.

[@mikef3324]

Not sure where to post it, and I know this is probably not the right place. But I came across a problem trying to teach my broadlink Sky Q commands. The new Sky Q remotes are setup normally to communicate with the box via bluetooth. But by pressing and holding keys 7 & 9 until the led flashes 4 times it will revert to ir and you can program broadlink. However, I'm getting varied success.

[@quaherway2941]

Yes there are already a few zigbee no neutral dimmers you can buy today.

[@alexandruprepelita2771]

Hey. Please ler us know wich. Thanks in advance🤟

[@quaherway2941]

Just an example. wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/smart-home-zigbee-3-0-network_62189534862.html

[@Ukcavhead1]

Got one and wired it in. And then bought two more. Thanks for this Paul. Works well

[@daztheman552]

If I got a 3 way switch and wired only one in, will the other two just work as triggers? Or does it need the neutral via the capacitor to work the other 2? Cheers love the B&W bit

[@daztheman552]

Ordered one but it will be april time

[@daztheman552]

Update switch has arrived, I have a 3 way light switch, if you replaced a one gang switch, you do have two remote switches with nothing connected in them, looks like you have to connect L and L1 , which is the button 3 , L1=3 , I then have button 1 working a smart bulb in another room , then have button 2 to do anything I want still with no wire in it 😂

[@gurmaildhaliwal7734]

Hi Paul, There also seems also to be an RF remote control switch (Slave) for this, which is also on the same page on Amazon. Is this so you can make the switch into a 2-way? Does that mean you can have the master with all the wiring downstairs and have the remote control slave switch paired upstairs? It might be interesting to do a video on that, as a lot of people are looking for a 2-way switch.

[@n-flem222]

Did you find out anymore on this Gurmail? Looking for a 2/3 way switch solution

[@rhysferris1996]

Paul, I am not complaining nor arguring with you but as you like to spead information I thought I should update you on you Nutral wire situation. If you light switch does not have a nutral wire and insted has to Live/Line wires it is on a 3 plate system, which in simple tearms means the power is supplied to the light in the Loop termianl, then down to the switch, back up to the light and actually through the light then down the nutral wire. It is posible to get dimmers to dim a 3 plate system as a dimmer switch in limiting the electrical current to the load. Smart sitches are currently using Relays wich are electromagnetic switchs, an autimated dimmer would be rather large and i am sure that currenly their are companies that are trying to solve this problem and srink this technology. hope this helps. I would also suggest that you recommend people to get an electrician to install electrical items despite it being legal to do so themsleves. people installing electrical fixtures incorrectly can cause sparks, heat, fire and death. the wires do not only have to be installed into the correct terminal but also inulation must be cut back to the correct lenght and termianls properly weighed down on to prevent fires. I understand the DIY aspect of your videos but when it somes to the risk of lives, people should be encouraged to use a professional rather than chance it. Again, I am not calling you a D*** or getting angry at you, simply providing some friendly feedback. Hope this helps and keep up the good work

[@weeble3383]

Hi Paul, lightwaverf light switches are dimmable, no neutral required. Just get a dimmable bulb to go with it

[@akastewart]

And the £130+ Gen 2 hub? Also, afaik, being rf, rather than directly Bluetooth or wifi, there isn't the on/off state reporting that you get with BT/wifi alternatives - though that might be addressed in the Gen 2 hub. (I used to have a Gen 1 LightwaveRF set-up, but bailed out after waiting over 2 years for a decent wall light switch.)

[@weeble3383]

Hi Stewart , the price is a big downfall. I have 3 light switches. They hub didn’t cost me that much, got it when Maplin closed down. I wouldn’t buy anymore, just on price. I only mentioned them because Paul asked about light switches that require no neutral and are dimmable

[@akastewart]

@@weeble3383 Fair enough, though I imagine he wasn't really factoring in options that required at least another ~£200 just for the first switch, if you're new to LwRF. (LwRF light switches are at the 'Apple'-end of pricing with ~£60 and ~£100 for 1-gang and 2-gang respectively.) Still, point accepted.

[@weeble3383]

Stewart ,I’ve also tried 1 energenie, light switch, their gateway and switches are much better priced. Not sure about range , the switch is fairly close to the gateway, so works fine, the socket adapters can be tempremental, don’t like being to close to an extension cable. Seems to interfere with the signal

[@kas7777]

I watched this purely for the laugh, wasn't looking for anything to buy lol 😂😂😂

[@dvwebster]

There are some ZigBee smartdimmers that do not need a Neutral available in the U.K. from Aurora lighting, who are a well regarded & established manufacturer. Their AOne series of smart products includes a novel rotary dimmer that works very intuitively, just like old style analogue dimmers so very easy for home occupiers to use. Available with a clean looking white plastic faceplate in single or dual gang versions. Also available as a compact module that can be single hole fixed to a custom faceplate of any size or finish. The smartdimmer has a switched selection of operating as a Master or as a Slave for multilocation switching through existing wiring. Being standard ZigBee means they are officially supported by Samsung Smartthings Hub as well as their own hub, but recently Aurora have announced official integration with the built in hub of Echo Show g2, Echo Plus or Echo Studio is coming soon. They act as ZigBee repeaters. They dim very well and go down to 1% with compatible LED bulbs. They have a power rating of 250W. Price wise the AOne products are midrange, ie lower than LightwaveRF but greater than Energenie MiHome or budget WIFi products. A single gang AOne rotary smart dimmer is just under £50 but easy to install as no load bypass device is needed. Recommended.

[@adrianodemetrio5607]

You can try looking at the Shelly Dimmer, there are two versions: a normal one that requires neutral, and an "SL" version that doesn't require it, so it's perfect! The only "problem" (not really, i think) is that this device is like a relay, it doesn't have buttons and faceplate and all.., you have to wire one (or even two) external momentary buttons to regulate the light, but it's a WiFi dimmer that works without neutral!

[@DJRyanJamesUK]

I have lightwave RF all over my house and the LEDs are great but you can Dim them and/or turn them off. I have the upstairs ones in the bedroom off at 11 pm and then turn back on at 6 am. Smart Dimmers and Compatible lamps are very complicated do your research first.

[@immis8894]

Amazon is now selling an updated version of this WiFi Smart Light Switch. This new version comes with a Neutral Terminal on the Light Switch and also a Capacitor in the box. If you have a Neutral Wire at the Light Switch box then this goes into the Neutral Terminal and the Capacitor doesn't need to be installed at the Ceiling Rose. If you only have a Live and Switch Live Wire at the light switch box then you just disregard the Neutral Terminal and terminate the Live Wire to the "L" Terminal and the Switch Live Wire to the "L1" Terminal and you must install the Capacitor at the ceiling rose to stop the light from flickering/buzzing

[@scienceoftheuniverse9155]

Hi Paul are these switches still doing well? Thanks indeed

[@stuartc1986]

Hi mate have you considered looking into the below? Lutron Caseta Dimmer Inovelli Red Z-Wave

[@jaredheuser8890]

This item is unavailable on Amazon, can't find it can you please fix the link?

[@lelandclayton5462]

Thats why I love living in the States. Most switch boxes have a Neutral. I was going in the route of using Tuya devices then it hit me. Some day they will either go bye bye or discontinue service for the device I have so I am using Tuya-Convert and Home Assistant. This way I can stay out of the Cloud.

[@justa.american8303]

THANK YOU PAUL!!! And yes, I am shouting it from the rooftops. I too am looking for neutral wire free light switches that can dim, among other things. Like you I wasn't looking to have rewire my home just to gain a neutral wire. The person or people who came up with that should have their left foot nailed to the floor and forced to run in circles. But I digress. You mentioned that the neutral wire pulls more current than the non-neutral wire switch. Could you address the difference between the two among any other cost effectiveness of running one or the other. Have a great week. ;-)

[@paulcarr8653]

Where does the capacitor go. In the install location wise.

[@favourcharles4154]

Please I have Alexa echo dot and smart switches but it's not working. Do I need a 2.4ghz wifi? What's 2.4ghz wifi and how do I get it ? Is there an alternative? Can't I just use my phoses wifi directly to the switch

[@yorkshiresfinestpair]

Paul, How do you connect the lamp to IFTTT ?? ive just signed up with them & all i see is shit like social media instergram twitter links.. all that i dont want.. we need a tutorial of how you did it PLEASE...

[@samuelxiberras]

Hey, cool vid, just wanted to ask as i'm considering buying three of these, even if its just an on/off switch, do the bulbs have to be dimmable? as mine aren't and i thought it would cause some issues. Another is, if there's a problem with your wifi, do the switches work manually anyway? cheers!

[@matthewstreames4416]

would this witch work if it was to replace a switch where the bulbs attached were already smart bulbs?

[@urdad76]

The Shelly Dimmer SL does WiFi and doesn’t require neutral for 200-240v

[@1977kops]

Hi. I have got 3 gang switch in my kitchen atm. One switch turns 8 gu 10 bulbs, the sec one switches a led light above my dining table and the 3rd one switches 4 led lights above my worktop. I have the second 1 gang light switch in the kitchen working 2 way with the first switch but only turning on the same 8 gu bulbs as first switch. Please can you advise if the switch you mentioned in your video would be suitable for this setup. I read on Internet people were complaining about the light flickering. All my bulbs are led ones. Thanks in advance. Great and funny videos.

[@Les4251]

Hello, I live in a house built in the very early 1920s (UK (Essex)) which is quite old and build solidly (no plasterboard) rubbish walls here.....In the early 1960s, the council re-wired the house but to save money they used (toilet) pull cord ceiling switches in every room rather then have to channel the walls for the light switch cables. Does anyone know if they make replacement pull cord switches with Alexa (Wi-Fi-) built in so that I can change the switch and possibly the ceiling housing without having to re-wire my entire house?? and off course NO NEUTRAL WIRE!!!...

[@JessieMHadaller]

My Lutron caseta wireless dimmer switches did not need a neutral wire.

[@StarkillerRadio]

Lutron makes zwave switch that don't use a neutral wire but require a specific bulb to perform properly

[@mattashby5717]

Did u fit the capacitor/resistor thing? What does it do?

[@stu101]

I tend to switch of the breaker then try the light switch to confirm no power

[@stu101]

@@mpurcell2004 guess I wont be doing that again then

[@choosingmusic11488p]

How much can you get a pack for the whole home

[@danielwolman]

i bought one of these using your link! dunno whats going wrong but i keep needing to flick my fuse box switch as it occasionally wont turn off :(

[@amfoi]

broadlink has switches that doesnt required neutral i've installed it in my home and it works fine

[@trevhib]

I'm interested. Have you got a link to the product?

[@andrewferguson7762]

Yeah a link would be great, thanks

[@paulhibbert]

The TC2 (amzn.to/39ESTFH), yes, I checked it out an eternity ago and it was great (kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKfUY5WQrL2Gnc0), BUT it has had A LOT of problems in the past 6 months to a year with working with 3rd parties like Amazon and Google, all the issues were at Broadlinks end and they were extremely slow to resolve the issues in each case. I'm not convinced they've got all the problems solved. I'm also not 100% sure, but I think you need a Broadlink RM pro to control it too . I stopped recommending it a while ago after all the difficulties.

[@paulhibbert]

It's also not a dimmer switch, just to make that absolutely clear. They're on/off only.

[@trevhib]

@@paulhibbert Yes, looks like the OP missed the critical point.

[@kevphillips]

How do you set up a two gang switch with the app and alexa I've set up the single switch but just interested in how a double light switch would pair up I take it you would press and hold the first button and pair that then do the same on the other have I got this right cheers inadvance

[@jskyrme]

Brilliant as always Paul. Have a question - not sure if you can answer. As the 2/3 way versions are available, and as the switch doesn't require a neutral, would pressing buttons 2 and 3 trigger and IFTTT even though they've got no power to them? Is providing power to circuit 1 enough? E.g. I'd like to replace a standard 1 way switch with a 3 way version, where I could use buttons 2 and 3 to trigger WiFi table lamps for example through IFTTT even though there's no load connected to circuits 2 and 3.... Wonder if anyone knows this?

[@7shortofperfection]

May not help you across the pond, but inovelli makes a zwave dimmer that doesn't require a neutral.

[@7shortofperfection]

Inovelli Z-Wave Dimmer Switch (Black Series) | No Neutral ZWave Switch | Repeater, 3-Way Smart Switch Technology, Signal Indicator | Z-Wave Plus w/S2 SmartStart www.amazon.com/dp/B07RYMSH6Q/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_Vg5yEb71GKFB0

[@DeLoreanBandRocks]

Great video! Quick question - what do you do with the neutral if it isn't needed? Just leave it loose in the backbox?

[@missionairsoft5491]

Get the other version that requires it. In the uk most light switches are only on the positive cable. Hence why we need no neutral.

[@hjkaye]

These switches are great for three-way, four-day etc smart setups. You wire one to actually switch the power on-off, and in the other locations, just power the switch and use the automation to on-off the "real" switch. I have given up on the single gang ones, buy 2-3-4 gang models and you can control many devices from one spot. This is where my Brother p-touch labeller has come in handy.

[@nikraby1939]

Ive watched all of your videos, I've spoken to you multiple times and I've even been in one of your videos and I just realised I am not subscribed to you. I am ashamed and you deserve a hundred thousand more subscribers. Great video, my broadlink tc2 light switches are mental and break into disco mode for no reason now and again, it's good to see a working alternative with tuya as nearly all my house is connected to that but the cat. (Soon). Have a good one dude.

[@Addy_033]

Quick question, if it’s Alexa enabled, does that mean it will work on the Hive app?

[@DJRyanJamesUK]

Love the 1950s segment 😂Very good Paul! Always makes me laugh!

[@tomasbrun8242]

Paul, you are hillarious, as always! Thanks for the info!

[@chrisedgell7686]

Hi Paul, Have you had a look at LightwaveRF products? I've installed a few of their dimmer switches found them very good but pricey. They also do sockets too. All controlled from a phone app through a hub and the woman/man in a box.

[@NecoH3llHD]

Is it also possible to use it only as the ifttt trigger and not switch any power lines at all? so for example there is 1 switch in the wall, that would normally turn one light on or off, but I want to have constant power on the celeing to have like 1rbg strip on its own and the normal light that will be triggered through ifttt 🤔

[@JayJLucas]

Lutron Caseta dimmer switch doesn’t use a neutral wire. I own a few of them. Easy install and set up. Flawless performance so far. They are pricey though, but the complete lack of fuss has been wonderful. Oh...works with Alexa, Google and HomeKit so your options are wide open.

[@glascoe96]

Quick question does a switch store function that internet been on??

[@kearankerai]

Is it possible to set up smart bulbs to work with voice commands and also from a a smart switch?

[@alexkingham92]

In theory could you have this switch wired up to a standard plug. Then you could use it as a smart button to, for example turn a smart bulb on or start a routine?

[@ecoterrorist1402]

Great news Paul, you all ready own it. Reflash the firmware with Tuya convert. Then you will have open source goodness installed. I’ll find the web link laters 👋

[@andrekcamilleri]

Hi. Im new to this home automation and not really technical. I got a couple if rooms with hue lights (seems like your not a fan hehe) wired up normally to a standard switch but as you know most guests just use the manual switch causing the power to cut off from the light making it useless through the app as you need to manually put it back on. Will these switches solve this problem? If your internet is down but still have a wifi signal, will the switches work or will you loose all control over the bulbs till internet is back on? Can these work 2/3 way as i got some bulbs that can be powered on/off from different locations?Was also looking at the livilo switches but was not sure if these will work too. Thanks

[@davidpiper3652]

Maybe, MAYBE, not switching the light directly but switching a relay (mechanical or solid state) might stop the buzzing issue. Clunky but possible.

[@kazakstan101]

Will these switches still work as a basic light switch if the internet goes down?

[@OmarGomez-tz1bt]

Hey Paul, could you make a video about the newer broadlink products? i saw that you have one but it´s just so little information, i saw another video where the youtuber says that now you can know if the devices you control with the rm pro are on or off, I tried to find more info but couldn´t find any. i love your channel and i started watching it when i was searching for info on the older rm pro.

[@Hunnsey_rs]

I know it’s a little old video. New to smart home automation after watching a few of your videos. I decided to give one of these a shot buying thru your link! Absolutely brilliant! Many thanks Paul.

[@paulhibbert]

Thanks dude! 😊

[@dikkybee]

Is there any light switches that use Alexa that don't need the internet? I guess its impossible due to using Alexa but the reliability, here in Australia, is total shite. One day it works then it doesn't. Of course we have a local sourced article that is made in Melbourne but they no longer have support for Apple, which doesn't bother me as I use Android, but I can see that maybe I am about 5 years too early, here in OZ, for this system to be reliable. Is there a system that you could create a local cloud that is accessible via the net so you have remote control but while in the house it doesn't have to worry about all the connections that are required to use Alexa that needs to go through all the sites just to turn a switch off and on. Sometimes its quicker and more reliable to just use the switch than give a command that may work. Unfortunately all the Amazon links wont deliver to Oz and they are not available through the Oz Amazon site.

[@gregorhi2]

How about an overly complicated dimmer setup? Get something like a Shelby Dimmer and wire it directly into the lamp. Then use your two switches in the light switch as automation triggers, i.e. left switch to lower the brightness and right switch to increase the brightness. Wifi switches don't need to be actually wired to what they can control as your moon is demonstrating.

[@javandermerwe]

Thanks Paul, could you perhaps look at doing a review of the SwitchBee system? I kitted out my entire house with it. Interestingly, I chose them specifically because the switches don’t require a neutral and do allow for dimming. Happy to share my experiences after a year or two of use, since I’ve learnt a lot. Thanks!

[@davebrenton1194]

Paul, Thanks for the channel. I love it .... Now What the Hell is the BRAND of this cool switch? I've watched the video THREE times and the only Brand Name I hear is Tuya is THAT the name? Doesn't seem to be it. Anything I missed?????

[@n-flem222]

Paul, is this still your "go to switch"? Can you use Alexa/SmartThings to use it as a Trigger? Or only the now defunct IFTTT?

[@AlanLifeson]

Been trying to work out how to use smart light switches on a stair/landing light where there are 2 switches, one upstairs and one downstairs. Would love to get it working.

[@BloodScientist]

I guess for that you'd need 2 gang 2 way switches and a 1 gang 2 way switch as well.

[@AlanLifeson]

@@BloodScientist There seems to be a lot more wires than is needed plus the downstairs switch is part of a 3 way switch. I have smart bulbs at the moment but the mrs keeps turning it off. :)

[@BloodScientist]

@@AlanLifeson I have a similar problem with others turning it off from the physical switch. But here's a 3 gang one with 2 way capability so you can potentially use it? hartingtonheath.com/product/i-lumos-pro-white-glass-panel-led-smart-wi-fi-on-off-touch-light-switches/

[@johnsimpson9753]

Alan Lifeson I once had an issue with me hall lighting the switch blew so had ago myself gave up and called British Gas home help they guy was not happy that I’d had ago at it myself claimed he could just report me and not do the job a cup of tea and chocolate biscuit worked it’s charm switch got replaced but my get around for the hall and landing is smart bulbs so much easier than trying to wire a 3 gang 😁

[@Synchrodipity]

Does anyone know a certification or course (low cost) that will qualify you to work on other people's switches and fittings, without becoming a fully fledged sparky?

[@nickclarkson7665]

You need City & Guilds 2391 certificate in electrical inspection and testing. Part P is in building regs not a qualification as such

[@haywoodjablome440]

OR learn about PoE lighting and run everything over ethernet lines that dont require special licensing. Cat6 lines easier, safer, and cheaper than conventional electric lines. The tech is being developed to push a ridiculous numbers like 90V through those same lines. PoE is a newly expanding field that will transform how houses are built going forward. A good chnnel for PoE stuff is PoE Texas.

[@Synchrodipity]

​@@haywoodjablome440​It's great stuff, but all I'm thinking of doing is installing smart bathroom and kitchen lights, where it takes more than just changing a bulb. (I've done my own here) and would like to offer this to other people without breaking any laws. Rewiring an entire building for this seems a bit overkill.

[@jamessquire5472]

HELP! So I have the 3 gang version of the switch in this video, and what I'm finding is that if someone accidentally presses two buttons at once (easily done) the switch goes into reset mode. Has anyone got a fix for this? I had an update pushed through the smart life app but this didn't work

[@djblade7]

Can this switch turn off through alexa Phillips hue lights? Because for now i have bought xiaomi hub + switches and controlling the lights through domoticz

[@Muggles87]

I really don't understand why nobody has created a battery-powered smart light switch yet. It wouldn't help with dimming, but for basic on/off a switch-activated relay that looked like a light switch would solve the issue of needing a neutral, and it shouldn't draw too much power either. I've got 15 downlighters in my kitchen, and at present I'd need to replace every bulb with a smart bulb to be able to turn them on and off using Alexa. This is expensive, and I'd much rather be able to just replace the switch.

[@LindsaySmithmollison]

Great Video. My biggest gripe about my smart lights is the kids keep turning them off with our analogue switches. If I replace them will this allow my LIFX lights to be used regardless of the switches state or will I need to use IFTTT to state if light is off then switch on ?

[@yorkshiresfinestpair]

I just love watching your video clips, they crack me up.. and as a bonus i was just looking for some of these so definitely be using your links. thanks, paul...

[@kimberlykitchen6143]

Paul - Gavin trouble finding this - do you have a model # by chance?

[@kimberlykitchen6143]

“Having trouble”

[@paulhibbert]

Links in description 😊