Alexander the Great: Battle of the Persian Gate 330 BC

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@Lornext
@Lornext 7 жыл бұрын
No scouts... Remember kids, if you ever find yourself in control of an army, just send those damn scouts ahead. xD
@rubenheymans1988
@rubenheymans1988 7 жыл бұрын
Lornext so many times in history armies get their ass kicked because they don't scout, you would expect one of the best generals ever to not make that same mistake
@Lornext
@Lornext 7 жыл бұрын
Reminds us that he was just a human after all.
@Thraim.
@Thraim. 7 жыл бұрын
If he had to go out scouting in the morning every day himself I could understand him not bothering after a while, but what actually happened here? Was he annoyed by the scouts having nothing to report? It's not even like a tactical game where clicking the button every turn becomes annoying. He could have delegated the task of debriefing the scouts to any of his officers and called it a day.
@tornagh9200
@tornagh9200 7 жыл бұрын
Nah, I'm too lazy to be bothered by that. Besides, what could possibly go wrong?
@VasilyKiryanov
@VasilyKiryanov 7 жыл бұрын
Caesar was a far more cautious general. His setbacks were mostly due to lack of training of particular units, orders not getting through, or unpredictable external conditions like weather etc. Not himself not taking extra precautions.
@jophielswings
@jophielswings 7 жыл бұрын
Good job Arizobarzanes. You really did try and fight history, and I truly congratulate you for your temporary success!
@andreascovano7742
@andreascovano7742 7 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jophielswings
@jophielswings 7 жыл бұрын
He kinda reminds me of Constantine XI Palaiologos, forever trying to resist history against the Ottomans, however doomed to fail no matter how skilled or brave was.
@ciprianmanta492
@ciprianmanta492 7 жыл бұрын
i thought Alexander never lose a battle....
@jophielswings
@jophielswings 7 жыл бұрын
...This was an ambush... that...doesn't count?
@ciprianmanta492
@ciprianmanta492 7 жыл бұрын
or because this wasn't an important battle ... Alexander probably have 5k soldiers in his command at that time
@Shreendg
@Shreendg 7 жыл бұрын
What are the people at history channel doing? BazBattles is more informative than Pawn people.
@ravenstrategist1325
@ravenstrategist1325 7 жыл бұрын
History channel is mostly fastfood history and aliens nowadays
@Shreendg
@Shreendg 7 жыл бұрын
Raven Strategist Amen
@GabrielSouza-sr6jr
@GabrielSouza-sr6jr 7 жыл бұрын
Your profile picture is a samurai warrior from Age of Empires III, The Asian Dynasties Expansion, I like it!
@JonatasMonte
@JonatasMonte 5 жыл бұрын
@@ravenstrategist1325 Don't insult fast food, it serves a purpose.
@ravenstrategist1325
@ravenstrategist1325 5 жыл бұрын
@@JonatasMonte indeed it does, I do love my crispy mc baecons :)
@rodrigoneves8550
@rodrigoneves8550 5 жыл бұрын
Darius: *gathers new army* Alexander: *ah shit, here we go again*
@wandrinyew
@wandrinyew 3 жыл бұрын
Persian Satraps: ah shit, here we go again
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 3 жыл бұрын
Darius III was defending his nation you little pussy. Maybe if your dumbass understood that you know why and how Iran defeated the greeks. The Persians always reign with victory.
@consumer5631
@consumer5631 3 жыл бұрын
ah ah ah ah go babies go babies go
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 3 жыл бұрын
Worst place in the world. Rolling heights Persian country.
@paulbowen2684
@paulbowen2684 3 жыл бұрын
@@saeedvazirian woah there. That was un necessary
@falloutrains2641
@falloutrains2641 7 жыл бұрын
What I love about ancient history is that the sentence "Truth is stranger than fiction". Amazing how Alexander could make an Empire so massive in such a short time
@Kal9L9l
@Kal9L9l Жыл бұрын
At the age of 28
@cuddles2634
@cuddles2634 7 жыл бұрын
Another very well made video. Thanks for your hard work BazBattles :)
@peggybrem2848
@peggybrem2848 2 жыл бұрын
Me three ;-)
@bliztix2
@bliztix2 5 жыл бұрын
Holy **** I need a 100 hour HBO series on Alexander's conquest
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 5 жыл бұрын
No.
@СукаБлять-с6с
@СукаБлять-с6с 4 жыл бұрын
Kiira Korpi Yes we do because the 2004 movie was crap but not only about Alexander
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 4 жыл бұрын
@@СукаБлять-с6с Good, that movie's rating is also the rating of Alexander as a person! Lmao!
@presidentbanana4536
@presidentbanana4536 4 жыл бұрын
@@saeedvazirian Agreed, he was a shitty person, but he has a very interesting story that is more suited to be adapted in the form of a show rather than a movie, and HBOs most famous show includes almost exclusively shitty people and it's great, so I think it could turn out quite good.
@mijanhoque1740
@mijanhoque1740 4 жыл бұрын
I would love that as long as it has a Game of thrones style budget then it’s possible to do a shit load of seasons and huge battle sequences.
@gerardjagroo
@gerardjagroo 7 жыл бұрын
WTF! Alexander strolled into a Teutoburg Forest style ambush and lived! If Darius had any sense he would have made Ariobazanes general at the beginning of the war with Macedon.
@sarasamaletdin4574
@sarasamaletdin4574 7 жыл бұрын
Darius did not anything wrong really himself, he failed but so did Ariobazanes here too.
@chaptermastermoloc4171
@chaptermastermoloc4171 7 жыл бұрын
Alexander and Varus made the same mistake, but it was diiferent. Varus was led to an ambush by his comrade and made more horrible mistakes Alexander did. Varus was ambushed once yet refused to send scouts again, he forced his way stupidly rather than retreat back. another thing was Varus was a tyrant which fueled the suebian's hate. If you compare Varus to Alexander, I would say Alexander is worlds apart from Varus.
@gerardjagroo
@gerardjagroo 7 жыл бұрын
zildjian red corpin The great lesson here is don't go fucking around in enemy territory without using your scouts. The second lesson is keep your cool if you're ever in an ambush and think outside the box. A little courage goes a long way. Alexander got ambushed keep his cool and out thinked the enemy, Caesar got ambushed on multiple occasions and did the same, as well as Ramses II of Egypt who got ambushed at Kadesh like a fool but fought his way out like a fucking badass!
@chaptermastermoloc4171
@chaptermastermoloc4171 7 жыл бұрын
I totally Agree with you, but what matters is what you do next, making horrible mistakes again and again is a work of a fool. and in Varus case, you could possibly say he was one of the greatest fool the world has ever seen.
@CharlysBonada
@CharlysBonada 7 жыл бұрын
Teutoburg Forest was an inside job
@FreedomFighter08
@FreedomFighter08 6 жыл бұрын
Some historians say that this engagement cost Alexander his greatest losses during his campaign to conquer Persia and that the Battle of the Persian Gate was the most serious challenge to Alexander's conquest of Persia. Youtab, the sister of Ariobarzanes, fought alongside her brother in the battle and became symbols of persian patriotism. The persians fought valiantly to the death without surrendering and Ariobarzanes held the pass for a month inflicting heaevy casualties, you sir is a hero, the equivalent of Leonidas to the iranians and your mighty statue the Ariobarzan statue stands tall to this day in Iran. Iran's greatest poet, Ferdowsi who wrote the Book of Kings (Shahnameh) described Ariobarzanes's last words to Alexander in beautiful poetry which I will struggle to translate below: 'Know this Alexander That after my death You may be able to conquer the Persian gates You may be able to put on the Persian crown and sit on the Persian throne But do not become arrogant for Iran will rear many more like me' Since the 1979 Islamic revolution however, the Islamic Republic has been hell bent on its anti-Iranian agenda. The regime fears all symbols of pre-Islamic Iran. Quitre recently, this anti-Iranian agenda has manifested itself in removing wall paintings that depicted the Epic stories of Shahnameh (Book of Kings) in Mashad, the removal of the statues of another Iranian legendary figure, Arash in Sari and now they want to remove the statue of Ariobarzanes in Yassuj. The Revolutionary Guards, Commander of the province, Avaz Shahabifar and the local general prosecutor, Hojatol-Islam Moussavipour have claimed the statue of Ariobarzanes in Yassuj is an insult to the Islamic values and our war martyrs.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 6 жыл бұрын
That is toxic. You must stop them! Iranian history is too important to be treated this way!
@navideftekhari4980
@navideftekhari4980 2 жыл бұрын
We need you now brother
@azinnosrati6490
@azinnosrati6490 2 жыл бұрын
@@hagamapama we are fighting for that. We will take back Persia (Iran) ✌🏻
@mahdigharanli
@mahdigharanli Жыл бұрын
Holy smoke! As a native Iranian i didn't even know Ferdowsi mentioned Ariobarzan! You sir, certainly know a lot about the devilish regime that is sucking Iranian's blood like a parasite.
@EMCF_
@EMCF_ Жыл бұрын
This is a lot a pomp for a guy who won one small battle that didn't change the outcome of the war even slightly...
@HandleDisliker
@HandleDisliker 7 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy you change your intro's scenes! They add an amazing touch few KZbinrs really realize
@HandleDisliker
@HandleDisliker 7 жыл бұрын
Bazbattles deserves more subscribers!
@retiredshitposter1062
@retiredshitposter1062 7 жыл бұрын
share everywhere.
@JaLiberal
@JaLiberal 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work, as always. I guess we are going to see Alexander's campaign in Bactria and India then! Hurray!
@Braila2000
@Braila2000 7 жыл бұрын
In Bactria and Sogdiana had the biggest troops losses
@AndromedaPrima
@AndromedaPrima 7 жыл бұрын
The Equalizer well he brought slightly fewer numbers of army than the one he had at gaugamela anyway. and this one is a mixed army of macedon and persian so thats why its harder to be controlled.
@Braila2000
@Braila2000 7 жыл бұрын
Before he left for India, he stationed a garnison of 10000 soldiers in that region, so i think he had enough soldiers for that campaign
@saeedvazirian1620
@saeedvazirian1620 2 жыл бұрын
'campaign' lol. failure.
@jaronzennaiter
@jaronzennaiter 7 жыл бұрын
The narrator's voice is perfectly suited for these videos. Very well done, Bravo!
@rohamtavakkoli7562
@rohamtavakkoli7562 7 жыл бұрын
Finally something from the perspective of the Persians. Battles like this are never spoken of by Greeks and Romans.
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 6 жыл бұрын
@TheBritishBulldog Alexander lost. He isn't "Great" anymore.
@giorgosx5838
@giorgosx5838 6 жыл бұрын
Sarvanash Ramayanavish No he didn't but sure
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 6 жыл бұрын
@@giorgosx5838 Yes he did. General Airobarzanes defeated Alexander in their 1st Battle where Alexander sustained thousands of casualties and took no action for a month due to the crippling losses that he sustained. PS: Don't get mad that your gay king didn't win.
@robert18productions
@robert18productions 5 жыл бұрын
Sarvanash Ramayanavish Battles do not always last just a day and are not always won by their first engagements. Take for example the Battle of Gettysburg or almost any battle durning the First World War. Alexander at the end of the day stilled crushed the resistance at the Persian Gates and would take control of the Persian Empire. Alexander won the battle but at a heavy cost. A Pyrrhic victory.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 5 жыл бұрын
@TheBritishBulldog Alexander the Weak lost all of his alliances, gave up Greek culture and had his legacy (sons) killed. Must be awesome...
@JonatasMonte
@JonatasMonte 5 жыл бұрын
If Darius was king of kings Ariobarzanes was the Satrap of Satraps
@jagdishhooda7853
@jagdishhooda7853 4 жыл бұрын
Arizobozwne was saka Satraps.they were big fighter of cacecouses mountain area
@alimoradi8454
@alimoradi8454 3 жыл бұрын
@@jagdishhooda7853 Ariobarzan was born in persiplois and died defending it and Saka are Iranian nomad Persians still
@hrdkorebp
@hrdkorebp 3 жыл бұрын
Darius III was to Darius I what Biden is to Washington. A cheap, weak forgery.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 3 жыл бұрын
@@hrdkorebp Darius III was more of a man than you or any turd from the west. The Persians always win. Iran won.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
@@hrdkorebp nah it's not his fault he was facing alexander
@ltpierce1
@ltpierce1 7 жыл бұрын
So this is basically Thermopylae in reverse...
@hy2024-e1g
@hy2024-e1g 7 жыл бұрын
But with less men involved.
@danielbarraza3688
@danielbarraza3688 7 жыл бұрын
Weegee Productions Thermopylae and Teutoburg
@happyhotdog4342
@happyhotdog4342 7 жыл бұрын
I wanna see him do a video on The battle of Thermopylae, since my wish for Gaugamela was already made
@mombele
@mombele 7 жыл бұрын
Not really, as the Spartan royal guard was far better trained and superior to their enemy. The Persians were worse and had fewer numbers.
@flapperf4237
@flapperf4237 7 жыл бұрын
Spartans are overrated
@DBeiki
@DBeiki 7 жыл бұрын
It seems 3 things led the Macedonians to victory: Alexander's military wisdom Battle hardened troops who were better equipped And the treachery of men.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 7 жыл бұрын
They did not win any of their battles decisively.
@RiftZM
@RiftZM 7 жыл бұрын
+Sepehr Voshmgir 6th comment I've found you on. Wrong again, dumb shit. Alexander totally routed Darius' army not once, but *twice.* You're a fuckin' idiot.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 6 жыл бұрын
Good! Keep counting! I don't fucking give up! After all, we Persians aren't quitters! Hahahaha funny how he HAD to fight them twice in the first place. By the motherfucker, this video shows that there was a 3rd battle. And alexander had his toasty greek ass handed to him. Like the Gedrosian (Persian) Desert. 3/4 of his army died there LMFAO!
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 6 жыл бұрын
@@ThePanosassasin Alexander also lost three quarters when he was retreating from India idiot. Emperor Dhana Nanda, with his army, forced the Macedonian Baselius to retreat and abandon his campaign in India. That is a loss.
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 6 жыл бұрын
@@ThePanosassasin Lol haha: "East of Porus's kingdom, near the Ganges River (the Hellenic version of the Indian name Ganga), was the powerful Nanda Empire of Magadha and the Gangaridai Empire of Bengal. Fearing the prospects of facing other powerful Indian armies and exhausted by years of campaigning, his army mutinied at the Hyphasis River (the modern Beas River), refusing to march further east.[27]" "Gangaridai, a nation which possesses a vast force of the largest-sized elephants. Owing to this, their country has never been conquered by any foreign king: for all other nations dread the overwhelming number and strength of these animals. Thus Alexander the Macedonian, after conquering all Asia, did not make war upon the Gangaridai, as he did on all others; for when he had arrived with all his troops at the river Ganges, he abandoned as hopeless an invasion of the Gangaridai when he learned that they possessed four thousand elephants well trained and equipped for war." - Megasthenes, Indika[30] He abandoned his campaign against the Nanda Empire and bowed in failure to Emperor Dhana Nanda by retreating. Pink dog that he was.
@marcoglara2012
@marcoglara2012 7 жыл бұрын
No one is describing these battles with such understandable detail. Thank you!
@smooshfanultra
@smooshfanultra 7 жыл бұрын
I've noticed a sharp jump in quality. Greatly animated and informative videos. Well done.
@DavidAWA
@DavidAWA 7 жыл бұрын
So good. Such a clean presentation.
@jeffreyrosenfeld7543
@jeffreyrosenfeld7543 Жыл бұрын
To those that says Alexander lost, well he did not. Quite the contrary actually, Alexander's army was sloppy in the pathways, and Alexander being a genius commander realized this, so he ordered a general retreat in order to rest his troops, he just paused the battle basically because he's smart. Few days later he discovered a way, fought the same enemy and won the battle in the end.
@TheColombiano89
@TheColombiano89 3 ай бұрын
Exactly what Xerxes did to the Spartans 👏
@petermarinopoulos5642
@petermarinopoulos5642 6 жыл бұрын
Best history channel I've ever seen on KZbin keep up the good work! I also respect the fact that you refer to Alexanders army as Greek and are historically accurate always ! Great channel
@AS_888_
@AS_888_ 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha you wish
@farhadnawab7642
@farhadnawab7642 5 жыл бұрын
Such an elegant and professional presentation. Narrator's voice is superb.
@PrimisSanguis
@PrimisSanguis 7 жыл бұрын
I'm high asf rn, this shit is blowing my mind. I wish I could just go back in time for a while and meet these legendary men.
@gh0stmatter
@gh0stmatter 3 жыл бұрын
Take acid and watch these types of videos
@PrimisSanguis
@PrimisSanguis 3 жыл бұрын
@@gh0stmatter watched a documentary about vlad the impaler on shrooms and oh my… was an experience.
@kokobean5921
@kokobean5921 3 жыл бұрын
OMG so do I!
@saeedvazirian1620
@saeedvazirian1620 2 жыл бұрын
'legendary' only Ariobarzanes.
@Hackedideal
@Hackedideal 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing as always
@anasafandi1044
@anasafandi1044 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Ariobarzanes , you are the mvp
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 5 жыл бұрын
My cousin named his sons AryaBarzan and Artashata (Darius iii) After years of studying both of them and seeing how underrated and lied about characters they are, I am so fucking proud of him of naming them these names. For us Persians those 2 are the bros of all bros, on the same caliber of Cyrus or Ferdowsi. Thankfully the Persians annihilated the terrorist alexander and won the war against the foreign invaders, retaining Iran's immortality through time, space and soul. Darius III won. Real mvps indeed. Iran won.
@ramtinfazeli5106
@ramtinfazeli5106 4 жыл бұрын
@@saeedvazirian If ArioBarzan was the general of the Persian army or if Darius III only listened to his Greek general, Alexander would never conquer Persia. Darius III was an idiot and in both of his battles he ordered a full attack. He made a mistake twice.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 4 жыл бұрын
@@ramtinfazeli5106 Nope, the only idiot here is Alexander for fighting a war against the one people who were not his enemies, and he made an enemy out of them. Darius III was far braver than you. I would never trust a Greek general anyway, those assholes were probably spy cunts. Darius III escaped death by a foreign terrorist. That's victory. :)
@aleksk4151
@aleksk4151 3 жыл бұрын
@@saeedvazirian lol i would trust the Greek general up until Syria/Israel. After that No way. The Greek general gave clever tactics at the beginning of Alexander's quest when he was crossing the Hellespot into Turkey....he told Darius III to retreat and scorch the lands crops so to starve Alexander's army . But Darius III was premature and went on the attack.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 3 жыл бұрын
@@aleksk4151 I don't agree. Darius III was a brave king who met his neemy on the battlefield. He was given shit and did his best to turn it into giold. That is why Iran exists. The Persians always win. Iran won.
@GrandmasterNuggz
@GrandmasterNuggz 7 жыл бұрын
please do more of this! I love it
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
Had no idea this battle even occurred. Liked the little bit about the Persian Noblewoman who fought like a warrior. Would've loved to have known more about her.
@jackdutfield6096
@jackdutfield6096 7 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see a new video!
@CEO458
@CEO458 7 жыл бұрын
When you've binged watched all of the previous episodes, so now you have to wait patiently for a new one
@Raccoon.City.Police.Department
@Raccoon.City.Police.Department 3 жыл бұрын
Aryo Barzan is our hero we pray good afterlife for his souls every Persian new year which we call newrooz (Persian holly day)we also built a statue for him in his region of birth in IRAN /PERSIA , thank for the great video
@Sotospithisful
@Sotospithisful 7 жыл бұрын
"I'm drinking way too much" that part killed me
@Theodoros_Kolokotronis
@Theodoros_Kolokotronis 2 ай бұрын
The Argead Dynasty of King Philip II and Alexander the Great, also known as the Temenid Royal House, was of Dorian Greek origin, one of the main Greek ethnic groups and claimed descent from Heracles through his great-great-grandson Temenus, king of Argos. The founder of the Royal house was King Caranus. Grant Michael, “The Rise of the Greeks”. Green Peter, “Alexander of Macedon, 356-323 B.C.: A Historical Biography”.
@doomphus
@doomphus 6 жыл бұрын
Did you know: Persia's admiral Artemisia I of Caria was the first female admiral in history?
@N0__Name__
@N0__Name__ 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe thats why they lose...
@traytray4500
@traytray4500 4 жыл бұрын
Franco Flores Pérez 😭😭😭
4 жыл бұрын
Fake Do you even know about Muslims
@aminazs1854
@aminazs1854 4 жыл бұрын
@ There was no Muslim at that time
@brunoqueiroz2759
@brunoqueiroz2759 4 жыл бұрын
muslims? lol the religion on persia was zoroastrianism.
@MilanPavlovic540
@MilanPavlovic540 7 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if it's Persians vs. Greeks or French king and his peasants vs. English, I'll watch everything that you guys post. Keep up the great work.
@tornagh9200
@tornagh9200 7 жыл бұрын
wow, I never heard about this battle before. I somehow thought Alexander was never defeated. Thanks for uploading!
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for opening your mind to the truth, from a Persian.
@Kal9L9l
@Kal9L9l Жыл бұрын
Yes he never defeated, he just Use their(parsians) own trick, what they used in thrmopholy
@ricklenegan2294
@ricklenegan2294 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your vids. There is no other site (that I know) that lays out the Tacticals so well. I get a good insight into the stratigies and failures. Thank you.
@caelestigladii
@caelestigladii 4 жыл бұрын
6:20 Local shepherds are the bane of defence armies.
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 7 жыл бұрын
"You funny, I like you". I love the chat bubbles!
@amirbayat7860
@amirbayat7860 7 жыл бұрын
dude thank you that u talked about the Persian gates and show the glory of mighty Persian empire vs Alexander the great because it is not that much popular and no one knows that much about it most of the people just think that there was no victory against the Alexander in the Persian empire but now u showed there are some victories.
@kalashnikov5038
@kalashnikov5038 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm glad you uploaded in 1 week! I'm always impatient to see a new video! Cheers!
@markguardiana600
@markguardiana600 6 жыл бұрын
Battle of Thermopylae : Macedonian Edition
@СтојанСтојков-щ1ж
@СтојанСтојков-щ1ж 4 жыл бұрын
But in reverse
@0anant0
@0anant0 4 жыл бұрын
@ 6:43 night had come! the change in graphics -- wonderful!
@asdfgh-uh6cy
@asdfgh-uh6cy 2 жыл бұрын
Youtab became such an inspiration for future generations that they even named a video sharing platform after her.
@habboier
@habboier 7 жыл бұрын
KZbin copied Youtab
@florinlazar7404
@florinlazar7404 5 жыл бұрын
Youtab=unique in old persian
@kashual
@kashual 5 жыл бұрын
you deserve more credit and I love how your videos are kinda like total war battles
@RafaleB
@RafaleB 7 жыл бұрын
new vid! yeah!
@mr.c.3760
@mr.c.3760 7 жыл бұрын
I look forward to these vids so much!! Thank you so much for our time into historical content creation!!
@AlucardSlender
@AlucardSlender 4 жыл бұрын
What About Ariozobane's Sister? Youtab; she fought with Him as long as I know, and commanded the persians and died along with all of them... Same honor for her!
@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221
@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221 4 жыл бұрын
He already mentioned her in the end
@hrdkorebp
@hrdkorebp 3 жыл бұрын
70% honor
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 3 жыл бұрын
Iran won.
@saeedvazirian1620
@saeedvazirian1620 2 жыл бұрын
@Konstantin Trehagyrevopoulos Iran.
@AI-cp1jg
@AI-cp1jg 7 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I had always thought that Alexander never lost a single engagement.
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 5 жыл бұрын
And the Siege of Myndus in 334 BCE. Clear loss.
@he4620
@he4620 Жыл бұрын
Cause you just see hollywood and western sources perspective They exaggerate like their lier historain Herodotous
@kvnrthr1589
@kvnrthr1589 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the Persian commander did not attempt to cut off the Macedonian path of retreat? It's probably harder than it sounds but could have led to a greater success. I assume there were good reasons why it couldn't be done.
@perrycarters3113
@perrycarters3113 7 жыл бұрын
Likely troop count. If he focused more heavily on the Grecian rear, it would mean reducing his numbers, and thus the pressure on Alexander's forces, in other areas. The Greeks were numerically superior and seriously battle-hardened; allowing them any opportunity to form proper battle lines would have resulted in heavier Persian losses. Thus, spreading out his troops to inflict maximum casualties on Alexander's forces was a smart move. By forming a heavier concentration of units in the Grecian rear, the middle and vanguard would have had a chance to form ranks, and Darius' defeats made it clear that the Greeks could defeat the Persians in regular battle. If you meant setting an environmental trap to cut off the Grecian retreat, he likely didn't have adequate time or manpower to do so. Also, if the Greeks noticed higher Persian activity earlier on the mountain path, they may have done proper scouting or not have advanced further, which would have ruined any chance at ambush regardless.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 5 жыл бұрын
@@perrycarters3113 Not quite. Darius wasn't defeated by the enemy, he was betrayed by 2 of his generals, otherwise Alexander's victories were Pyrrhic at best. Also, don't underestimate Darius III's decisions. He had at least 2 decades more of military experience than Alexander.
@CrucisJon
@CrucisJon 5 жыл бұрын
@@saeedvazirian Realy? Never heard of that bro, which Generals betrayed him? All I know is Darius was outsmarted several times by Alexander. Maybe you can educate me further and which source you used. Would love to hear back from you
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 5 жыл бұрын
@@CrucisJon well, what you read are mostly Greco Roman lies. Nabarzanes and Bessus (and multiple others betrayed Darius in battle. There's no way a battle hardened Achaemenid was outsmarted by one cocky Greek just because Greek sources said so. That's impossible. The Astronomical Diaries are closer events than anything written by conflicts of interest cesspools like Arrian, Plutarch or Diodorus or Livius and they indicate that the Persians not only defeated Alexander 3 times, but that in Gaugamela, Darius was abandoned while he kept continuing fighting, an orchestrated act of treason to gain power for themselves.
@CrucisJon
@CrucisJon 5 жыл бұрын
@@saeedvazirian Hello bro, it's been a long time since the last comment. How are you doing ? I understood that Darius was betrayed, but only later when he lost the battle of Gaugamela. I would love to know which source you are mentioning. So far the sources that I am considering as of the moment is from the Greeks and I must agree there can be some bias specially "History is writen by the victors". I used to hate the Achaemenid empire and saw them as evil conquerors but I was so wrong lol. The Ionian revolt that Athens aided is a foul move and I of course the Persians would see them as a major threat in the future. With all the Propagandas that the films saying that the Persians are evil conquerors & barbarians , depicting them as lawless power hungry nation based on the my history professors during high-school years ago and Spartans are portrayed as Freedom fighters and heroes who stopped the threat from slavery from the Persian empire. But the Spartans themselves treat their slaves the worse. I would highly appreciate if you could share me the sources you mentioned and I have to admit I love Alexander the great, but all the credits are given to him of course, but I haven't seen the point of view of the Persians. Thank you again for replying, hope you're having a wonderful day :)
@borissukoi564
@borissukoi564 7 жыл бұрын
i love the sequential Alexander story right now. i need more! you guys are the shit!
@oggeman1606
@oggeman1606 7 жыл бұрын
I have said it before and I'm saying it again, do the battle of Narwa or the battle of Lützen. Although, I have to say that I do enjoy these Alexander the great battles, he was truly one of the best commanders of history.
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 6 жыл бұрын
Emperor Cyrus the Great is FAR superior to him in every way.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 5 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the same video or what?
@star.light.ls.
@star.light.ls. 6 жыл бұрын
You should seriously honestly do way more videos than this. Your channel is literally among the best I've ever come across.
@ciprianmanta492
@ciprianmanta492 7 жыл бұрын
i love this chanel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bobjenkins9208
@bobjenkins9208 7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation as per usual baz, i learned a great deal about this battle, tyvm. Cant wait for the next one!
@rubenheymans1988
@rubenheymans1988 7 жыл бұрын
Why have I never heard of this battle before?
@mombele
@mombele 7 жыл бұрын
Ruben Heymans history is only written by the winning side. Therefor Perdian victories were not glorified in books etc.
@amirbayat7860
@amirbayat7860 7 жыл бұрын
there are lots of battles that Persian armies won from Greeks and Macedon armies but they are not that much popular because only winner side is important.
@nikitakuznetsov8446
@nikitakuznetsov8446 7 жыл бұрын
+Persian King Like what? I can only think of the Ionian revolt but that's about it.
@flynn659
@flynn659 7 жыл бұрын
what are the lost Macadonian and Greek battles?
@nobblkpraetorian5623
@nobblkpraetorian5623 7 жыл бұрын
It's just like in WW2. Almost every battle that was well known was won by the Allies.
@illyrianprinc100
@illyrianprinc100 7 жыл бұрын
My heart starts beating every time I receive a notification from BazBattles.
@NECHOII
@NECHOII 6 жыл бұрын
The other version is that ARIOBARZANES and his warrior sister Noblewoman YOUTAB, managed to fight their way out of the trap KING ALEXANDER the GREAT had sprung on them and successfully retreated to PERSEPOLIS. But they were betrayed again, this time by the Treasurer of PERSEPOLIS - TRIDATES, who feeling all was lost and hoping to save PERSEPOLIS from destruction, refused to open the gates to let ARIOBARZANES and YOUTAB into the city. ALEXANDER the GREAT caught up with them and both ARIOBARNZANES and YOUTAB heroically went down fighting to their last breath ! A few months later, KING ALEXANDER after plundering PERSEPOLIS of all it's vast wealth, put the city to the torch !
@aleksk4151
@aleksk4151 6 жыл бұрын
wow he really was a Barbarian . And Greeks say they don't like Barbarians oh the Irony
@philhobs1
@philhobs1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the work you put in your videos. They extremely interesting and are the best war videos on the internet!
@KingExituS
@KingExituS 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid, would you consider making a video about battle of Carrhae?! Imo Parthian are oe of the most underrated civilization in history!
@ravenstrategist1325
@ravenstrategist1325 7 жыл бұрын
Not really because they "evolved" into the sassanids
@KingExituS
@KingExituS 7 жыл бұрын
They didn't evolve into Sassanids, Sassanids took the power from Arsacid dynasty through war, Arsacids and Sassanids were two different civilizations!
@KingExituS
@KingExituS 7 жыл бұрын
The engmatic Account It's probably because of the political position of the modern Iran in the world, thanks to the media most people in the west have a negative view of Iran!
@KingExituS
@KingExituS 7 жыл бұрын
+The enigmatic Account Indeed, they have made plenty of documentaries and movies about enemies of Rome, but not a single one about Parthians, their toughest enemy, Carrhae was one of the most interesting battles of the antiquity, a battle between too highly organized and proffesional armies, truely amazing.
@KingExituS
@KingExituS 7 жыл бұрын
+The enigmatic Account That's true, Persians were quite unique, unlike what we see in the movies the Persians and Greeks had a lot in common, they had kinda a mutual respect for each other despite being enemies. According to Herodotus one of the very first theatre events in Greece was called ''Persae'' (eng:the Persians), it was about Persian kings and Persian lifestyle. And I've heart that Persians appreciated the Greek Architecture, so they engaged Greek Architecs to built their palaces!
@dasbear-1408
@dasbear-1408 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Baz Battle for making these videos I greatly appreciate the knowledge of ancient history shared also if you could possibly make a video about strategical blunders thanks
@BenArthur
@BenArthur 7 жыл бұрын
Alexander the Great was nearly as great as this channel!
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 7 жыл бұрын
That's an insult to this channel because he wasn't great.
@anuragshah6243
@anuragshah6243 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah. tell that to the Persians (or in fact, anyone who is actually sane and has any idea what they are talking about)
@RiftZM
@RiftZM 7 жыл бұрын
+Sepehr Voshmgir Oh, look... Here you are again bashing Alexander and trolling. Third comment so far.
@watilongchar9136
@watilongchar9136 6 жыл бұрын
Roman Vs Greeks
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 6 жыл бұрын
Blackshot Dragon actually it's mostly Greek butt-hurting considering they wrote so many of the lies on Alexander and the Xerxes wars. I'm here to shut down propaganda and do it right. You're just trash-talking.
@charalamposkatsenis2698
@charalamposkatsenis2698 6 жыл бұрын
8:25 Ariobarzanes was accompanied by the ancestor of KZbin, named slightly different at that point.
@AWearyExile
@AWearyExile 7 жыл бұрын
After watching all of these videos on Alexander, it seems to me that the quality of his troops and the gulf of military technology between the Persians and Macedonians was the deciding factor in his campaigns, not necessarily his genius. Although I wouldn't call him a slacker in the tactics/strategy department, there are moments where it appears that Alexander is triumphing purely through brute force, especially at Issus. And here at the Persian Gates he walks right into an ambush. I think Phillip II deserves more of the credit for creating a military machine that was literally unprecedented and essentially unbeatable; the Persians just didn't seem to have an answer to Macedonian tactics. Just a thought.
@thegreekdeal4747
@thegreekdeal4747 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Carmody his troop on their own were very strong but defeatinf any army twice your size 3 times takes amazing tactics and strategy.
@Tsotsis1
@Tsotsis1 5 жыл бұрын
indeed, as a greek i admire Phillip as equal as Alexander. Macedonia ruled because of him.and his genious, how alexander contributed in all this campaign mostly has to do with his megalomania firstly and second with his genious mind and ambition
@saeedvazirian1620
@saeedvazirian1620 2 жыл бұрын
The Persians literally crushed them. lol.
@lukoskulo2583
@lukoskulo2583 2 жыл бұрын
@@saeedvazirian1620 you mean got crushed by them
@lukoskulo2583
@lukoskulo2583 2 жыл бұрын
No, the Persians were very strong, too. In a video (I think gaugamela or Issus), he mentions how the Persian cavalry was considered the best in the world.
@TheDing1701
@TheDing1701 4 жыл бұрын
If videos like the ones on this channel were standard viewing in schools, history would be learned and not forgotten.
@darthsidious6753
@darthsidious6753 3 жыл бұрын
He had conquered the Persians at last.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 3 жыл бұрын
he failed, watch the video. Iran has never been conquered. Iran won.
@FGETK
@FGETK 3 жыл бұрын
@Konstantin Trehagyrevopoulos She's been commenting on alexander videos for 3+ years, just saying dumb shit like that lol
@FGETK
@FGETK 3 жыл бұрын
@Konstantin Trehagyrevopoulos I've seen her on like a dozen videos, over the past few years talking trash to everyone and shes completely wrong about everything
@saeedvazirian1620
@saeedvazirian1620 2 жыл бұрын
@@FGETK hahaha if she's wrong then why are you so offended by her constantly gaslighting her. Literally everything she said is based on facts. Lol. I studied history and I agree with her. Europe lost hard. Iran is still here.
@saeedvazirian1620
@saeedvazirian1620 2 жыл бұрын
@Konstantin Trehagyrevopoulos if you have balls, speak english, don't hide behind your nationalist nonsense.
@ismo122
@ismo122 7 жыл бұрын
These videos are getting better and better
@flapperf4237
@flapperf4237 7 жыл бұрын
Would you make the Battle of Carrhae?
@Jesusandbible
@Jesusandbible 7 жыл бұрын
Superb narration, visuals, and I presume research too. Bravo! Keep up the good work!
@hassanmehmood5639
@hassanmehmood5639 7 жыл бұрын
Dunno why, just makes me so sad... The fall of Persians. Perhaps because of our current state today, when the modern-day is as horrendous as it is, all you can do is admire the past.
@theoderic_l
@theoderic_l 7 жыл бұрын
Long live Cyrus, King of the four corners of the World!
@yusong3306
@yusong3306 7 жыл бұрын
Are you from Iran? Empire rise and empire falls, its good enough your civilization still lives. There is a Chinese proverb regarding ancestors, succeed them and honor them with a better future. Past is past, the US has no history, they can still build up a superpower.
@thelastmark2216
@thelastmark2216 7 жыл бұрын
Modern day is not horrendous you moron.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 6 жыл бұрын
Hassan do not forget. What all Persian kings fought for, even Darius III, still live today. But there are no signs of Alexander in Iran today. ZIp. None. That. That is beauty. Not tragedy. We kept our culture. Noone can take it from us.
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 6 жыл бұрын
Iran got its revenge through Emperor Dhana Nanda who forced Alexander the Great to retreat and abandon his campaign in India.
@M16a4sniper
@M16a4sniper 7 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work. I love this channel.
@marccarpenter373
@marccarpenter373 4 жыл бұрын
Somehow I have the feeling that Ariobarzanes was more dangerous for Alexander than Darius
@TheSonOfDumb
@TheSonOfDumb 7 жыл бұрын
My God, it just keeps on getting better and better!
@antred11
@antred11 7 жыл бұрын
When I read the title "Persiangate" I thought this was going to be about some sort of scandal involving Persia. 🤔
@allenrivera9744
@allenrivera9744 7 жыл бұрын
pls keep making time worthy videos like this. thumbs up!!
@tete-o-maskas
@tete-o-maskas 7 жыл бұрын
He say ambush in greeks (ενέδρα)
@geoddfc7937
@geoddfc7937 7 жыл бұрын
CaptainCoco yea
@panos3160
@panos3160 7 жыл бұрын
And?This is normal considering macedonians were Greeks and they were speaking Greek.
@tete-o-maskas
@tete-o-maskas 7 жыл бұрын
l said this because the baze battles speak English and say ambush in greek is .....curiosity for these how have the channel ...
@panos3160
@panos3160 7 жыл бұрын
Top quality content m8 show him some love.
@misterscienceguy
@misterscienceguy 7 жыл бұрын
RandomGreekguy Maco royalty was definitely Hellenic, but the other city states didn't consider the normal citizens Greek.
@lostinYourReality
@lostinYourReality 7 жыл бұрын
One video from BazBattles can never fill my cravings
@timisallinen7690
@timisallinen7690 7 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you do a video about Ottoman Empire's siege on Vienna in 1683
@ll061231
@ll061231 7 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for new Alexander the Great battles, keep up the amazing work!
@stjepanpolanc5103
@stjepanpolanc5103 7 жыл бұрын
you gotta feel a bit sorry for the persians
@EFlatcap
@EFlatcap 7 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the Persian people. They lived under a relatively (emphasis on relatively) stable government with the Archemanids. Then in comes Alexander and kills probably millions of innocent people and soldiers who most likely had loving families. To top it all off he up and dies, leaving a ruined, shattered mess.
@ColasTeam
@ColasTeam 7 жыл бұрын
If we have to be completely honest here: Alexander was one of the biggest fuck up's in Mediterranean history.
@ravenstrategist1325
@ravenstrategist1325 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed,the Persian Empire was usually tollerant and stable with each province have considerable autonomy from the center(Persia and Mesopotamia). When Alexander died the Diadochos or successors, put the entire region in flames due to their constant warfare and put greeks and makedonian colonist on top of society. Seleukos I was an exception and managed to reunify most of Alexander old domain and at the same time he was nice to the locals. When he died the locals went second class ina giffy.
@Sam-xd9xt
@Sam-xd9xt 7 жыл бұрын
WisePictWarrior. Yes, very sad! Same can be said about the Persian conquests.
@ColasTeam
@ColasTeam 7 жыл бұрын
One has to wonder if Alexander would of been able to keep his empire together even if he didn't died.
@ostojicnikola81
@ostojicnikola81 6 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel! I could sit for hours and watch your videos. Very good and informative presentation and production.
@Keyhan-c8c
@Keyhan-c8c 6 жыл бұрын
Ariu Barzaneh was a champion fought for his people, we should keep in mind that these Persians were not happy with the useless king, many of geografians and champions of persia itself helped Macedonians to break through persia, this job was't done by alexander all the way! As we know persia loses only 2 of battles against Greece's in almost 250 years during the Greece persian wars, its said there have been 30 battles between these two nations and persia was almost undefeateble for Greece! Alexander's skills + good timing + support from local Persians+ persian rebellions inside, all led to the conquest. If Alexander were alone in this it was more like a myth than a history.
@datdilemma5229
@datdilemma5229 5 жыл бұрын
The battles in Marathon, Platees,Salamina,Issos,Gaugamila,Granikos Potamos and many more were won by Greeks. So your point is wrong.
@پارساصدیق-خ4س
@پارساصدیق-خ4س 5 жыл бұрын
@@datdilemma5229 yes in 300 movie😂😂
@amirrezaqafari6385
@amirrezaqafari6385 5 жыл бұрын
@@datdilemma5229 dude most of them are fantasy stories today research shows they couldn't happened because of to many wrong details and unusual epic writing specially marathon because 99% of it is bullshit
@Yiannis2112
@Yiannis2112 5 жыл бұрын
@@amirrezaqafari6385 Correct! Didn't happen. All ancient nations loved to make up stories so that infinitely wise people, would have a good laugh 23 centuries later, on youtube. They all loved a good fairy tale, but you can't say they lacked vision...
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yiannis2112 They lacked vision. The time is ended. Iran won.
@mitchycool92
@mitchycool92 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a history nut (especially for Classical Antiquity), and I knew NOTHING about Alexander the Great until you guys started to cover him in your videos. Absolutely fascinating! Not only was his accomplishments unprecedented at the time, it's STILL unprecedented TODAY! The only other generals in history who COME CLOSE to what Alexander did are Hannibal Barca, Julius Caesar and Napoleon Bonaparte. Alexander definitely tops all of them in regards to his accomplishments, but if I'm being honest, Julius Caesar is the better general.
@kgatch113a
@kgatch113a 5 жыл бұрын
So technically.....doesn't this count as a defeat for Alexander?
@jrd33
@jrd33 5 жыл бұрын
I'd call it only a setback. He set out to march through the mountains and he succeeded, defeating the most capable remaining Persian general on the way.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 4 жыл бұрын
@@jrd33 That's still a defeat.
@uzairmo
@uzairmo 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your historical battle videos! I hope you continue you making more!!
@sl-tx2uw
@sl-tx2uw 7 жыл бұрын
I thought Alexander never lost a battle???
@comingafteryou5352
@comingafteryou5352 7 жыл бұрын
kuzzzitoz doritozzz Well I don't think this was a proper battle by the time it was an ambush.
@KTA1sVidsandFacts
@KTA1sVidsandFacts 6 жыл бұрын
It's because both skirmishes are seen as the entire battle. Alexander lost in the beginning, however, came back and won in the end. There is only one decisive battle. The last.
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 6 жыл бұрын
@@KTA1sVidsandFacts The 1st also counts, which means that Alexander DID lose. Also the Siege of Myndus in 334 BC.
@aleksk4151
@aleksk4151 6 жыл бұрын
@@KC-jw5yz siege of Myndus ? what is that. yes i kinda agree with you. It's still considered a defeat. Winning EVERY battle doesn't necessarily make you "UNDEFEATABLE"
@aleksk4151
@aleksk4151 6 жыл бұрын
you can still lose "Engagements" which counts as a loss and hence you are not Undefeatable
@chevvvvvvvvvv
@chevvvvvvvvvv 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your clips, can't wait for the next one. Keep on the good work 💪🏿
@Pompomatic
@Pompomatic 7 жыл бұрын
If this occured then why is Alexander proclaimed as undefeated?
@TheRagingStorm98
@TheRagingStorm98 7 жыл бұрын
Pompomatic Maybe because it was an ultimate victory In the end. Though no side actually lost the first battle at all. Since Alexander avoided a total defeat. By retreating to a new position. He wasn't routed from the field totally. So wether it counts as a defeat is debatable.
@Pompomatic
@Pompomatic 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree with you. However it could easily be seen as two separate battles since several days passed without conflict.
@TheRagingStorm98
@TheRagingStorm98 7 жыл бұрын
Pompomatic I suppose it's how you see it. But I'd see it as a win for the reasons mentioned in the first comment. In a sense this battle is like many battles of WW1 simply put a major attack followed by a few days of calmness then an attack again. Many of generals around that time would still count these attacks as a single battle rather than as separate ones. But wichever way you look at it. It's a minor stain in his otherwise perfect legacy for Alexander.
@Pompomatic
@Pompomatic 7 жыл бұрын
The Raging Storm I think I agree with you. One could say that it was a single battle, but with two clashes. Alexander lost the first clash and won the second; securing his victory in this battle.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 7 жыл бұрын
Pompomatic Alexander eventually defeated Arizobanes, even though he lost the first encounter he won the overall battle as his opponent died in battle
@zsigmondvarga2052
@zsigmondvarga2052 7 жыл бұрын
A big nerd of strategy and a big fan of your video series, keep them up!;)
@alimoradi8454
@alimoradi8454 3 жыл бұрын
This video makes it look short and worthless “The Persians were no match for the fierce Macedonians?” but in reality Ariobarzanes held Alexander’s 70 thousand soldiers for 30 days with only 700 men that is 10 times the Spartans in the battle of Thermopylae who only held for 3 days against the same numbers
@mg222.
@mg222. 7 жыл бұрын
I'm very impressed with the quality of your videos! Keep up the good work!
@hellenicnationalist7061
@hellenicnationalist7061 7 жыл бұрын
Proud to be Greek
@hellenicnationalist7061
@hellenicnationalist7061 7 жыл бұрын
no problem glad you enjoy it ;)
@yusong3306
@yusong3306 7 жыл бұрын
I have a strange feeling of nowaday world, if the day comes the Greek struggle with Turk again, they may find Iran potentially on friendly side...
@yusong3306
@yusong3306 7 жыл бұрын
But the US still need Turk to keep Russian inside black sea... And the US still deploy nuclear weapon in Turk to gain advantage against Russia nowaday. Their relationship is a mess now, really. Can be believe Hamas is on the side side with Israel in Syria recently?
@hellenicnationalist7061
@hellenicnationalist7061 7 жыл бұрын
Guys Greece and Turkey are allied (NATO) countries, we have no quarells, aside that turks violating our air/naval space daily and Erdoggan being a dick. But in a war scenario I do believe that the west would be more eager to ally with us.
@giorgosx5838
@giorgosx5838 6 жыл бұрын
Sepehr Voshmgir So you mean to tell me that the Persians never slaughtered people? Hmm, pretty hypocritic honestly. I don't understand why after all those years you comment on KZbin videos saying all kinds of crap about Alexander the Great. He wasn't perfect ofc but no one is. Slaughtering enemies is the reality of war. Welcome to the real world
@cybersasho
@cybersasho 7 жыл бұрын
WHOA A NEW VIDEO FROM BAzZ !!!! insta like, even before watching the first second
@blakops000007
@blakops000007 7 жыл бұрын
The middle east was so prestigious before Islam and Christianity.
@naziboy6131
@naziboy6131 7 жыл бұрын
before Islam* fixed It
@blakops000007
@blakops000007 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because Byzantium was so much better or the crusader states. Both religions screwed the old traditions of what used to be called "the civilized world"
@vladescu3g
@vladescu3g 7 жыл бұрын
crazy how an arab guy with no life created a religion of such violence.. that also shadowed the minds oh his people in every way, they were once at the top of civilization and after islam they fell to african tribes lvl..
@blakops000007
@blakops000007 7 жыл бұрын
The beginning of Islam wasn't that bad, matter fact it was better than the previous Sassanid and byzantine rule. But The refusal to leave old traditions and modernize is what made the middle east what it is now.
@bletwort2920
@bletwort2920 7 жыл бұрын
Muhammad as a reformer greatly improved the lives of his people but by making his laws absolute he made them stuck in Middle Ages forever.
7 жыл бұрын
At Thermopylae the Greek army was about 10,000 and the Persian Empire had closer to 300,000 (though many were still arriving). The Persians suffered huge soldier and morale losses while most of the Greek force retreated (to later join their big army of 100.000 that would eventually crush the Persians. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataea) and morale was pretty high (after seeing how weak the Persian soldiers were comparatively). Alexander only had 14,000 troops (and another 2 armies (and navy) going another routes) and he faced an elite force of at least 5000 Persians and probably 20,000-40,000 more troops (less elite) from the Capital. He didn't lose half his army in sending stupid waves after wave like Persians did at Thermopylae. He was ambushed once, the Persians were not ambushed at Thermopylae. Alexander eventually enveloped the Persian army and crushed it. The Capital fell without a fight (one story says they didn't even let the Persian General retreat inside the City gates and left him outside to die, so as not to cause Alexander to siege and plunder their city). There are tons of differences. There was also a naval battle at the same days: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Artemisium The Persian navy was huge even after half of it was sunk in storms earlier. The total numbers of ships were around 300 Vs 1200 and the sailors numbered 50,000 Greeks Vs 250,000 Persians (including oarsmen, the heavier armed marines were about 10% Vs 20%).
@12coudak000
@12coudak000 7 жыл бұрын
Darius has lost! again? Nice one.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 7 жыл бұрын
Darius did not lose. Losing a physical battle is one thing. But he won the war.
@christiancristof491
@christiancristof491 6 жыл бұрын
Sepehr Voshmgir What do you mean by that?
@kostasmponis1386
@kostasmponis1386 6 жыл бұрын
Sepehr Voshmgir ha what war he won he lose all the empire
@nunyabidness39982
@nunyabidness39982 6 жыл бұрын
RiftZM whoa. Hostile. I like it.
@KC-jw5yz
@KC-jw5yz 6 жыл бұрын
@@saeedvazirian Emperor Dhana Nanda took revenge for Persia and Darius III by forcing Alexander III Great to retreat and abandon his campaign in India.
@term164
@term164 7 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work, I really like your videos. They teach some parts of history I never learned at school.
@erfanshokri243
@erfanshokri243 7 жыл бұрын
im persian but i must admit that the alexander was a military genius
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 7 жыл бұрын
He wasn't a genius in any way.
@RiftZM
@RiftZM 7 жыл бұрын
+Sepehr Voshmgir 11th comment you're in. Yes, he was dip shit. In fact, his military tactics are still studied and applied to this day. Dumb ass.
@GrubHuncher
@GrubHuncher 6 жыл бұрын
Sepehr Voshmgir So Persia was conquered by a moron? That really isn't a good look for the Persians.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 6 жыл бұрын
So if that's the case doesn't make Alexander a genius then hahaha
@aleksk4151
@aleksk4151 6 жыл бұрын
@@saeedvazirian hahah nice comeback
@kapakas
@kapakas 7 жыл бұрын
the best channel, I'm always looking forward to your next video!!!
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