Alexei Nemov High Bar

His high bar routine from Athens 2004 Olympics

[@iudithmentzel6288]

I think his is still the best high bar routine ever seen ! Still remember up to this day the half hour long public protest at the judges, when he should have won by all rights ... He remains a true legend :)

[@mikontisott]

Nemov had it all, my favourite of all time, elegance, beauty and masculine strength, stunning

[@bopis20]

Forgot which year/event it is but I remembered when the crowd boo-ed at the judges, Alexei even had to step out and tell the crowd to quiet down. That's how much respect he got from people all over the world acknowledging his skills. He is a legend ....and oh SO handsome!

[@dR3aMfyre]

Yeess!!! I was just as pissed off as they were lol, he definitely deserved the gold instead of Hamm!!! I kept thinking if only he had stuck the landing smdh...😤😒😤😮‍💨😮‍💨😤

[@13gendarie]

It was exactly this event. Athens 2004. You can hear at the end they say "the crowd isn't going to like this score"

[@barbararommy]

That happened just after this.

[@dis7817]

@@dR3aMfyre Why does it seem the landing is the most important aspect of these sports? I look at the strength , ability to complete the moves as being more important than if somebody takes a step. Forget that look see what they are doing in the air! He got gypped out of a gold. Just the opposite with ice skating, they can twirl and spin and do the triple sow cows!! whatever and land on their butt, still get gold...

[@navarroportriple]

Yeh. I remember watching this at home the night it happened. One of the greatest fan/crowd moments I've seen.

[@bunnycombat]

Alexei Nemov was robbed of Gold at the Olympics, if only he competed at 2008 and 2012 with the sane routine, he could have won Gold and he is a superstar gymnast in his own right, once he appears, the crowd screams, what else will you call but a Superstar gymnast

[@eyestate]

Alexei Nemov was them a true champion.

[@RealBlackEssence]

Alexei is by far one of the BEST male gymnasts in the world. I recorded this...he makes you go WOW when you see him! He is just GREAT! And he really is better than the Hamm boys. I love them, but they are no Alexei!

[@angelrwbf]

Thanks for responding, it's not often someone replies conversationally, with pertinent information, so I appreciate it. I was watching the video again & enjoying the crowd response, the way the collective gasp gets larger with each release. What an incredible performance. Thanks again.

[@Subanoob]

Nemov the best

[@conradmartinez4175]

THIS KID OWNED THIS APPARATUS! WHAT A CHAMP!🏆🥇

[@user-co9vs7kk8y]

Красавчик во всём!!!Великолепный Гимнаст!!!👏👏👏

[@foolsquirrel]

Paul Hamm's routine is child's play compared to Nemov's.

[@Joeelii]

Tragic day for Nemov. 2004 and 2008 were amazing years for gymnastics. So many contenders and event specialists.

[@navarroportriple]

The best, only bit wrong was the landing but he only took one step. He deserved a way higher score than he got. The greatest!

[@adde27]

You must be tired of me by now, but I have a quote here about the old system that I forgot: "But the code includes no mechanism for rewarding athletes who exceed perfection, like Nemov did in his high-bar routine. The gymnast who surpasses previously accepted standards of perfection - either with a radical new skill or unparalleled virtuosity - gets no bonus." and "There's no reward for originality anymore in the sport"- Peter Vidmar, (WashingtonPost article, can send you the link if you want)

[@milenasilva7279]

Nemov Mu fouvorite gymnast

[@user-pk9yv2ly9z]

Самый крутой, это легенда

[@adde27]

I'm no expert either so if someone wants to correct me, go for it. Back in 04, there was a different scoring system (got changed in 06 thanks to situations like these: especially the Svetlana and Alexei cases) that favoured a perfect execution over difficulty. So if you had a gymnast like Nemov who did a very difficult routine but with a mistake, he'd score lower than another gymnast, like Hamm/Cassina/Yoneda, who didn't do a difficult one but didn't have any (or few) mistakes.

[@angelrwbf]

I wasn't familiar with the routines that caused the controversy at this Olympic games. I have just gone back and forth viewing both Alexei's & Hamm's performances, & I'm not going to claim to be a gymnastic expert, perhaps that is why I'm confused as to how this truly astonishing performance could be scored so much lower than Hamm's. Is that supposed to be simply due to the dismount? Watching each performance several times it seems that is the only thing that one could call "better" about Hamm'

[@3wonka]

The russians got robbed that year. Svetlana, Anna and Alexei

[@eamonob84]

Yeah, I watched it too!

[@flipkid2233]

@kayper54 i would love to see a level 8 do a stretched tkatchev and a double double lay.

[@RealBlackEssence]

@bubbablakey1 Again, I will stand by what I said. I have watched Alexei since 1996. I have watched him grow and perfect as he went along. Alexei didn't even have to try in that olymics, which he said himself that he wasn't there for the medal. He wanted to be in the olympics one last time before he retired. He even missed the birth of his son because of the olympics. He just wanted to compete and complete that chapter of his life. I have watched Paul and Morgan since they first came onto the

[@georgeyog331]

They didn't give him the right score as usual. It's the judges game unfortunately

[@adde27]

@EssenceOfTruth I agree. Considering Alexei was 28 years old at the -04 Olympics, and gymnasts are in their prime (in general) from 16 to 19 and for him to be this good some ten years after that, is pretty damn impressive (and let's be honest, his -96 and -00 routines were better than Hamm's -04). Alexei has always been a crowd favourite. I mean, the roar of the audience when he performs is proof enough: they love him like one loves a champion, and that is something earned from skill and talent.

[@KomovasSplits]

Anna Pavlova filming it at 1:01. He should have win.

[@SwordHMX]

I was rooting for him. We can't overlook that step, though.

[@adde27]

(not only Nemov - the scores were off for almost all gymnasts). So all in all, this was a sad and embarrassing day for gymnastics: it wasn’t bad routines or the wrong settings on apparatus, it was a faulty system and even worse judges that sadly cost some gymnasts a well-deserved medal. There's no justice in the Games, afterall :/ Wow, that got long! Sorry everyone for the spam, but it looked much smaller when I wrote it the first time.

[@adde27]

Hehe, pun approved. Truthfully, this system is better, it's a matter of balancing Difficulty with Execution: take Zonderland's Olympic gold routine, for instance. If his arms had been bent during releases or if he faltered at the landing, no Kovacs or Cassinas in the world would've given him the gold. That said, yes, it does need a bit of work: it still favours Execution over Difficulty (Uchimura comes to mind), and I think that will never change: the core of gymnastics is to reach perfection.

[@edjorthebeast]

6 releases? my forearms hurt looking at it

[@anonymooseau]

To this day this is still the biggest case of "He Wuz Robbed!" ever. I was watching this at home and boo'ed just as loudly as the crowd there. He didn't even get a medal in the end? BS!

[@mledur]

How come Hamm's routine had a SV of 10.00??? That's sick.

[@Sean-lo9zn]

Champ.

[@SomeYouTubeTraveler]

Tom Hardy could totally play him in a movie. They look like brothers

[@tineegonzales7365]

He looks like a young Val Kilmer. (Try watching his movie, The Saint) Him, Tom and Nemov look so much alike.

[@iHarmonicDissonance]

I can't believe he didn't win. I like paul hamm too, but he isn't quite as good I think. Don't get me wrong, paul hamm is an almost equal inspiration of mine, it's just that Alexei Nemov is better in my opinion.

[@comanecisalto1]

1:00, Anna Pavlova! Another Russian constantly robbed of medals, poor girl has lived off 4th place the past two olympics

[@adde27]

- Nemov’s Olympic career, you’ll see that he’s been given low points for advanced routines in comparison to gymnasts with less advanced/graceful routines since 96 (ex: Atlanta PH), something that even commentators have picked up on. It’s really not surprising that the judges who changed their score after the crowd boo’d got escorted out by FIG officials: when the crowd realise that the points aren’t corresponding to the routine properly, you’re not doing your job-

[@kayper54]

Is this the guy that was so grossly under-scored that the crowd booed and hissed for 10 minutes until he got up and calmed them down?

[@RealBlackEssence]

@bubbablakey1 I can not believe you felt the need to comment on MY comment out of all that you see here. It's my opinion that Alexei is better, because if him form, but he is graceful in how he executes his routines. You didn't hear anyone else be wowed when Paul or Morgan went up. Alexei has a presence that Paul and Morgan have to grow into. Paul and Morgan have to try. Alexei doesn't. He is a veteran and can do tricks that Paul and Morgan haven't even tackled yet. That's my opinion. Sorry!

[@adde27]

Sorry for the late reply - my inbox doesn't appear on this new layout >.< Yes, but it had been brewing for years: it just sort of exploded with Athens with this event, but the scoring was off for many other gymnasts. I think the system's poor design was brought to light for *everyone* to see here, as the 10-point system doesn't reward daring or innovation - just flawless moves that didn't really make you the best.

[@angelrwbf]

Performance, but as I said I can't claim to have enough knowledge of the sport to assert that statement. Can anyone explain?

[@MichaelFlynn0]

www.newyorker.com/sports/sporting-scene/the-international-federation-of-gymnastics-needs-to-keep-up-with-simone-biles

[@HyzerFlexOnYou]

I'll always maintain that Russians teach their gymnasts the best style. Followed closely by the Japanese.

[@alainbarthe5153]

Mieux que ça ,c'est difficile !

[@adde27]

It’s a stupid system, and it should have been changed years ago. Now, in Nemov's case, he did two things wrong (ish): he bent his arms a little during releases and he didn't nail the landing. Yet these two mistakes were not so bad that he’d only score a 9.725: considering he had four releases in a row and six in total, he should have scored much higher (look at HB champions today, you’ll notice that that’s what makes a good routine). Though, if we want to look very critically at the judges over-

[@dishkakrauch]

Regards to you, i'm russian and i like your opinion cause it's right - sorry for bad english.

[@MarkPanhorst]

@kayper54 back then the scoring system was designed to encourage a clean routine rather than a lot of flashy difficulty like release moves. the step at the end of nemovs routine would be a minimum 3 tenth deduction, so sticking a dismount was extremely important. modern rules may encourage power and difficulty, but that was simply not the case in 2004. get your facts straight and stop acting like hamm was not a great gymnast simply because he wasnt flashy. blame the scoring system & judges

[@user-yn4uz9ju8g]

А че дальше обрезали, стремно да😄

[@coyalino]

fack Hamms -NEMOV IS -NAJBOLJI NA SVETU!

[@bubbablakey1]

@EssenceOfTruth morgan isn't that great honestly. But paul has got it made. He can do all the kovacs and other releases that alexei can do as seen on his past routines and workout videos on his website. And did you forget the roar of the crowd at the end of his routine when he stuck it cold - pretty sure the crowd was "wowed." You're right though, Alexei has got the grace. But my opinion is based on facts. Just sayin

[@jazzigymnast]

did he win? he should've won

[@bubbablakey1]

@EssenceOfTruth If he is better than the hamm boys, than why didn't he beat paul in the all around in 04.....besides, paul has cleaner form and nice lines, and doesn't bend his arms on giants

[@MarkPanhorst]

then how do you explain the fact that prior to the 2008 olympics he was scoring between 92-94 in the all around and was the only one capable of even competing against yang wei for the all around title? doesnt sound like a mediocre gymnast to me

[@Spagettit]

took a shit on Hamm's even with the misstep. He easily should have taken one

[@RealBlackEssence]

@bubbablakey1 scene back in 03. These boys have skills and they are great! But, they don't have what Alexei has. If Alexei was SERIOUS for just a few moments, he would make Paul and Morgan wish they never got into gymnastics. He would seriously out show them. Again, that is my opinion on that. Paul and Morgan are great gymnasts, but they are not all that special.

[@brettonoverton6902]

He is one of the greats. Paul who ????

[@sameeraeka]

i was wondering why he's got a such a low score for that wonderful routilne.....well i got my answer ....athor than the big step on the dismount he bend his arms on most of his back giants.....

[@miketennis19ny]

yet another example of pathetic judging at these olympics. I dont think i can remember an olympics where almost every event was marred by clear examples of poor judging. 1988 and 1992 were bad, but this olympics was desultory.

[@kayper54]

@blakethegymnast He may have "stuck it," but I've seen more powerful bar routines from 14yo girls than I ever saw in Hamm's routine. You've got to do more than just "stick it." You have to actually have a POWERFUL and DIFFICULT routine. Hamm's was about a level 8 or 9 at the most. Very bland. No power at all. I'm hoping as time moves on, his reputation becomes more and more tarnished until he's finally considered an embarrassment to the judges on that panel.

[@magnitogorski]

Annoying

[@lizpas03]

He was ROBBED!!!!!!!!

[@zdrak2]

But that's exactly the point - Hamm was not a great gymnast. He was a mediocre gymnast, who took advantage of a scoring system that encouraged mediocrity.

[@judodak]

One small step on landing…he was robbed of gold.

[@kayper54]

Every time I see this I hate Paul Hamm just a little bit more. Hamm has got to be the LEAST deserving gold medal winner of all time. And he has not a shred of sportsmanlike decency in tiny heart of his. I'm so glad he didn't make Beijing and I hope with all my heart he stays away from London 2012 as well. I've never been as ashamed of or embarrassed about an American sports competitor as I am of him.