Ali Abdaal QUITS MEDICINE | Doctor Dropout Reacts

[@aliabdaal]

Hahaha this is great, thanks!

[@beautywithyvonne1835]

Hi Ali! I've been watching your videos the last few days and they have inspired me so much! I've always wanted to become a content creator and listening to your videos have helped me look at it in a different way (like being able to impact much more people) and for reasons like this it makes me want to do it even more! P.S I think you would be perfect for Podcasts, I listen to your videos while I do my makeup!! :)

[@syedzayed9447]

You both need to collab on something plz!!

[@tofarati2032]

@@samueljang1902 what do you mean?

[@tofarati2032]

@@samueljang1902 I think saying that they took advantage of the medical school system is quite a stretch. It's not like they never wanted to be doctors, but just chose to go through premed college classes and the rigor that is medical school just so they can become KZbinrs (who does that lmao?) They thought they wanted to be doctors, they realized they didn't anymore, and that's okay. I don't think we should hold people to things they put on their applications when they were 22 (18 if they are in the UK). People are allowed to change their minds and careers lol.

[@Zetsuke4]

Great video Ali, the talk was very eye opening and insightful.

[@hnk39855]

the two of you, ali and kevin, helped me through the plastic surgery residency. I will be forever grateful to you

[@tama3442]

Have faith in JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOR for HE SAVES from hell❗️ *What is the Gospel?* The true gospel is the good news that God saves sinners. Man is by nature sinful and separated from God with no hope of remedying that situation. But God, by His power, provided the means of man’s redemption in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Savior, Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of GOD, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Romans 10:9 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. JESUS CHRIST can come anytime! Just Believe ❤️ Love you and GOD BLESS

[@Zetsuke4]

These are very good reasons for why being a doctor might not be for someone, especially an entrepeneur. But these reasons actually made me think my personal reasons for being a doctor are unique and special

[@tama3442]

Have faith in JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOR for HE SAVES from hell❗️ *What is the Gospel?* The true gospel is the good news that God saves sinners. Man is by nature sinful and separated from God with no hope of remedying that situation. But God, by His power, provided the means of man’s redemption in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Savior, Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of GOD, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Romans 10:9 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. JESUS CHRIST can come anytime! Just Believe ❤️ Love you and GOD BLESS

[@maymonahoque7091]

Been watching both of you for a pretty good period of time. Regardless, I can see why you people chose to do what you're doing right now. Best wishes.

[@MDSkai]

“Taking risks will offer strength to bare life’s pain. By not taking risks, you only trade brief discomfort of action for the slow burn of inaction, despair and regret.”

[@Ace-Ace1]

@@BrocKelley Yeah none of this really applies if you are lower middle-class and below. Privileged people with endless options vs people who don't have other options. Sad reality

[@lkctom2546]

What's fun is he took the spot of someone else in medical school and has quit but someone who was overlooked could have enjoyed working in medicine until the day they died

[@DemetriPanici]

I am not that surprised. He's been trying to leave for a while

[@fatimafakhirmusharraf3652]

I kinda just have somthing to say o the personal joys of being a doctor. It's actually much more than helping one person at a soup kitchen. As a healthcare worker in a community you are really really important to that community or maybe I just feel this way because I'm a student from South Asia. A lot of patients I meet are patients because of bad policy or illiteracy or issues that have no connection to healthcare. Now after the pandemic we realize how MANY issues that just looked like politics or sociology are in fact actually our business. So yeah as a doctor I believe the way to give back is more than jus the saving lives part. I mean that's the job that's a given but being a doctor on a board and creating policies or advocating for something that impacts thousands of lives also matters. I hope this isn't completely off on a tangent but we need more voices from healthcare in places other than the hospital!

[@shrutisinha7966]

OMG I totally resonate with this!

[@farhanyt8679]

Mashallah U wrote an Essay about it

[@abbe1abbe156]

💯 You speak the truth.

[@jaredwilliams6853]

Ik this guy who’s a president of a bank w decades of experience and makes like 10k a week that example was trash. US doctors can make millions consulting, private practice, patents. Bad argument

[@alex_2020]

Kudos to you Kevin for this insightful video! Medicine and healthcare system needs it’s own healing as it has turned malignant!

[@BlueBabyAkaAj]

I still think it's crazy I'm going through with it being a doctor. But hey I'm doing it. Love you both.

[@valiantr0c]

I think going through medschool and doing well is great proof that one's productivity/study tips are effective, and as such applicable to other fields as well (eg. Studying for something else, work etc). Good luck on your futures for both of you! I'm finishing up medschool in Finland at the moment and thinking about my future plans so it's good to hear about different career journeys

[@primeirrational]

Hello neighbor! I’m from Sweden. I have one question for you if you don’t min: is it true that MD:s all have licentiate degrees in Finland? How long is med school there?

[@valiantr0c]

@@primeirrational hey! Yes it's true, you become a licenciate of medicine once you graduate and it takes six years. After graduating you can practice general medicine or start specializing in a speciality. I understand the system is similar in Sweden?

[@primeirrational]

@@valiantr0c kinda! > 50 years ago in Sweden, med school resulted in a licenciate degree. That changed however when another system (5.5 years of med school for a masters degree with around 2 years of general practice afterwards for getting a license) took its place. Now, the curriculum just changed again with med school now being 6 years where you get your license directly. I think you still get a masters degree however. Just thought it was cool you still got licenciate degrees :P

[@JoyFay]

Many people got into medicine to boost theirs and their parents ego. For the money and social status that being a doctor comes with. Now, we are beginning to realize there are many other ways to make money, secure our future and boost our egos beyond medicine, law, engineering, accounting etc.

[@ievam6879]

Accounting is the most awful. My dumbest classmate who didn’t understand maths now is an accountant.

[@JoyFay]

@@ievam6879 😂

[@mahsanA1]

Honestly needed this insight. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this!

[@Matt-cl7ee]

Hilarious that he said there’s no barrier to entry for entrepreneurship. Being an entrepreneur is one of the hardest things to be successful at and is probably the only thing that requires SO much luck. The only reason you both quit is because you got the bag and realized you don’t even need to work.

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Being a successful entrepreneur isn’t the same as being an entrepreneur

[@ThePalacios101]

Nothing but facts, I was looking for this comment. They are able to quit BECAUSE they have secured the bag already. I am a nurse with 5 years experience, working on weekends to finish med school, 2 more years to go. I would also like to say, fuck this hard work, I'm going make videos because the rat race is something no one wants. I can always try and start to make videos, but I'm 100% with you. I call it bollocks. I also find hilarious that they both make money off of selling courses and productivity tips to people who want to become doctors. Nothing wrong with that, but come off clean fellas. Wish you both the best, no bad blood.

[@osamae6944]

@@kevinjubbalmd reply to the comment properly kev

[@aluminiumknight4038]

Not just luck, they worked hard to get here

[@CeceDeAnn]

Any job you do will help people unless you literally work for a company that thrives on killing (a cigarette company for example)…. I work in a call center while I’m in school for nursing but at my job I am high level and can impact a very large amount of people. My job corporation is everywhere in The nation and other countries. We get to vote on how we help people. We donate food, we help with education, we help our own families with food, education, health care, etc . I love that part of my job and teaching others others under me to do the same

[@mishelkamal8214]

When I was in high school I remember watching your videos. And I get it, in order prevent burn out u have to think many times about if med school is right for you. But unfortunately so many of ur videos discouraged me from pursuing meds school and made me think, "what if I don't have what it takes". Meds schools make it so difficult to get in all ready but I definitely found that channels like urs and so many others made the road seem impossible. I didn't think I had what it took even though in my heart I saw myself as a doctor. I'm sorry I know u probably didn't mean to make that impression. Fortunately my dad pushed me and now I'm in my final yr of meds school. But if I hadn't had his support I wouldn't have made it.

[@princearkoh8179]

Wished we could get in touch 😪😪😭😭

[@themoonsmiles]

Glad you are enjoying medicine. Studying medicine is a different experience for different people. And working as a doctor after graduating is a different experience for different people. We are all allowed to enjoy what we enjoy. We also have the freedom to walk away from what doesn't work out for us. If you are passionate about what you do and know it is your life calling, please don't let anyone discourage you.

[@fffnnnfffnn]

I heard from somebody this frase: in order to have success it's better to know what step you should make gradually, you have the instructions for the first step, you do it, you receive the instructions for the next step, you do it.... Because if you know all of the steps you should do, you may decide it's not worth it! ( sorry my English, I am not a native speaker)

[@alphaomega1351]

I learned all I know about medicine by watching Grey's Anatomy TV 📺 show. 😶

[@N1Rguitar]

In the end, it comes down to not being passionate about medicine, at least not as much as his other passion. People who stay in medicine stay because they’re passionate about it even MORE than their other areas of interest. Because almost any other career is easier and less stressful than medicine, and if you’re not that passionate about it, there’s no logical reason to stay.

[@ievam6879]

Not rly . It’s just a job . Passion is just a term used to brainwash ppl. Source: doctor from docs family

[@N1Rguitar]

@@ievam6879 Yes, it’s a job. No, it’s not “just a job”. There are many jobs with a better pay for the same hours, less years and money spent for studying, less debt, less intensive, more time for friends and family, and so on. You don’t stay in medicine just because it’s a good job when there are better ones. Source: Ali and this guy reviewing his video. Those that do stay, stay because it’s their passion. Yes, they can switch to a better paying specialty because in the end it’s still a job (I’m going for anesthesiology since in my country it pays good, it’s interesting, the hours are comfortable and you still have time for family, unlike neurosurgery for example). But they won’t stay in the field at all if it weren’t for passion. Source: every doctor that stays in the field. You can say “it’s just a term used to brainwash”, it doesn’t mean anything when you still have too many doctors and graduates and too little open spots. They aren’t there for “just a job” when you have plenty of better jobs.

[@ievam6879]

@@N1Rguitar not many , not interesting and less stable and secure jobs. Many ppl choose medicine for this and there is nothing wrong with it . In life practicality wins over passion . If everyone did something out of passion I’m sure we would have more ppl in arts lol. Good luck in the real world

[@N1Rguitar]

@@ievam6879 Then I guess it depends on the country. Where I’m from, it’s not really a stable job. There are many specialties where you finish residency and can’t find a job as an attending. An example is neurosurgery.

[@tama3442]

Have faith in JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOR for HE SAVES from hell❗️ *What is the Gospel?* The true gospel is the good news that God saves sinners. Man is by nature sinful and separated from God with no hope of remedying that situation. But God, by His power, provided the means of man’s redemption in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Savior, Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of GOD, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Romans 10:9 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. JESUS CHRIST can come anytime! Just Believe ❤️ Love you and GOD BLESS

[@sparklegirl5373]

Dr Jubbal you're a beast mean ,your med channel is INSANE!!!!! SENDING LOTS OF LOVE

[@adamgil4159]

Very interesting video. Working for the NHS as a receptionist has somewhat made me see the very routine side of things that doctors will complete. By routine I mean such as paperwork, calls and lots of things I initially believed would have been automated. That's made me think a lot about medicine. Ofc I am still up for studying medicine but often I feel like it may be something that potentially limits my own creativity through guidelines. I've got a lot of writing and discussing to do and really appreciate great videos like this. Thanks Kevin.

[@shrutisinha7966]

I'd say this' the real reason nobody talks about

[@mindsetaspiration5013]

The nerds quitting and now youtubers

[@taaptee]

oh this is insane to me as a first year but i respect it

[@davidlakhter]

4:50 I guess that's all relative and depends on the individual - if one can find gratitude in those moments and has a personality fit to the lifestyle of a physician, then to them that may be more rewarding.

[@JF-ct5sg]

I didn’t know you and Prerak were friends!!! Good to hear that medyoutube socializes ☺️👋🏻

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Prerak the man

[@srijonisaha9017]

I stopped following Ali months ago, when he started to do everything outside of his KZbin niche on his channel. But I still follow your channel because you did not divert yourself from your niche as Doctor entrepreneur.

[@htchamber2776]

Hey it’s his life stop hating because he’s doing what he wants

[@srijonisaha9017]

@@htchamber2776 No one is hating him. He is not providing any value to me. Why would I waste my time to watch his videos? 🤷‍♀️

[@Zetsuke4]

Hah i guess you have a good point

[@ptbro3334]

@@htchamber2776 Just for once read the context and think before you write. The guy didnt hate,he just stated his opinion

[@juanzavala9023]

Your comment came across as bad. You should work on it.

[@brucemcclelland2069]

Being a physician myself I can see how easy it is today’ to decide to quit medicine If I had another skill I’d leave however I’m close to retirement so probably will leave soon anyway

[@fernandafernandes3658]

Great vid!! P.s. in the UK, when you graduate from medical school, you work for 2 years as a 'foundation doctor', which is the equivalent to the internship year (PGY-1) in the U.S., but is done before you apply to residency/'specialty training'. During that time, you rotate through 6 specialties, giving you more exposure to what the jobs are like irl and therefore, helping you choose a specialty.

[@giselletauro9942]

Hey! Do you know any other countries which directly have a masters program after graduating from medschool? I am a 3rd year med student and I initially wanted to go to the UK but I directly want to start my post grad training in Pediatrics. I am keen on continuing in Europe

[@JF-ct5sg]

Interesting. In the U.S., by fourth year of medical school, people pick between diagnostics/“medicine” (IM) vs. surgery (gen surg). There are other, specialized residencies, too, like pediatrics, plastic surgery, integrated cardiothoracic surgery, etc., but most people pick IM or gen surg and then subspecialize after residency (during fellowship). So, technically both systems have some delay in their final specialty choice after medical school.

[@primeirrational]

That’s very akin to how it looks like in Sweden for now (well, it just changed with the new curriculum here). First 5.5 years of med school, then 1.5 - 2 years of AT (allmäntjänstgöring; general service) where we go through IM, surgery, psychiatry and FM.

[@AhmetKaan]

*To all the dreamers out there, don't ever let the world's negativity disenchant you or your spirit. If you surround yourself with love and right people, ANYTHING is possible.* 🙏🖤

[@juanzavala9023]

IceCold Jt 4.0

[@laylalena1775]

I'm a PGY2 neurosurgery resident and I've recently decided to switch specialities and have been thinking about starting a KZbin channel myself, but not quite sure where to begin just yet! Thanks for the content :)

[@michael90201]

Why did you decide to switch specialties? I’m interested in neurosurgery

[@NacerAbid-l7i]

i can help you out

[@princearkoh8179]

Still don't get something 🤔🤔if a med student both enjoys med and entrepreneurship,this video is likely not to help..I don't know for others but the confusion is still heavy on my mind 😭😭

[@mazedmarky]

This Video is such a Gem and I've always wondere if you 2 were aware of each other. It is clearly visible and inspiring of how much of a reflective leap both you had - I hope you may write a book together at some point :O Keep 'er movin'

[@stephengaultsmith8731]

Perfect! Needed this - tremendous understatement ! Thank you!

[@atlantic7949]

One of the issues that leads to this happening is not knowing what one is getting into before they go into it.

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Sometimes. Not always

[@torinhunter2496]

Not always. People change and interests change. Most people are not the same as they were 4-5 years ago.

[@rasen4359]

Pretty bad take, nobody understand what being a doctor is… until you become one yourself or have had some life experience to put into perspective what working 80 to 100 hours a week even means. Nobody really understands this before they go into medicine unless they have some kind of off college experience.

[@Zetsuke4]

For you to be saving this, have you done the things they have? Have you practiced medicine for as long as they have and have a KZbin channel like themselves?

[@iconic3590]

My favorite channel so educational.. My dream is to become a cardiothoracic surgeon but unfortunately The tuition for med school is just !!

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Video coming out soon on MSI on how to afford medical school

[@iconic3590]

@@kevinjubbalmd that would be the best thing ever but please not I’m from the Caribbean but I’d like to go to college in the US

[@alphaomega1351]

Rob a bank 🏦. You are welcome! 😶

[@lenitaa7938]

I'm surprised you said that there is no shortage of doctors! We are continuously told there is a serious shortage! Finding a Family Doctor is difficult! Having is timely consultation with a Medical Specialist is a real challenge, as well! People wait months, even many months for a specialty consultation while in pain or being seriously ill, and, sometimes, years for a surgery!

[@kevinjubbalmd]

A shortage of medical school graduates to complete residency (which there is none) is separate from the issue of not having enough fully trained primary care physicians

[@CloverLuckable]

@lemon lemon hang in there man. Hope you're able to follow your heart soon.

[@sjf96]

I've followed you both, but my "what if" is "what if I don't try to become a doctor, knowing that every career decision I've made beforehand was just denying myself the career that I've always wanted?" So now I've got to figure out how to get into med school. Wonder where I can go to learn more about that? ;)

[@ksharma103]

I can think of very few peers who haven't thought about quitting medicine, including myself (I question it daily). It's a hell of a choice to make, with so many variables. But they way you guys have tackled it (the questions Ali asked himself/you seeking professional guidance), is something we ought to be doing when we're in that confused space. I think it's absolutely awesome and honestly, takes a lot of gut to stick with! So congratulations! And thank you for sharing your personal experiences! (Helps inspire those who want to do the same)

[@Zetsuke4]

Finished the video, was a very good talk. Thanks!

[@vistian]

It's been discussed, but to reiterate, no one would have cared who these people were if they had not been doctor in the first place. So, it's all good that they are now graduating to KZbin in a wider audience but no one would have gave a flying f*** about who they were had they not had the initial prestige status of being a doctor and someone whom one should pay attention to with credible information I desire. Nonetheless, I wish everyone the best luck in pursuing the dreams they want to pursue in this life. Dr. Jubbal's pages have helped me greatly, but only because I respected the fact that he was first a doctor and a teacher 2nd. I still do respect him and watch his videos, but it may have been different had I stumbled onto his page after he left. Who's to say? I saw Ali's KZbin announcement before I paid much attention to him and now, I'm like, "meh".

[@PrerakJuthani]

YAS LOVE THIS.

[@sabar4473]

Good thing I already thought of all these reasons before deciding not to go to medical school and pursue being a doctor. It's not that I didn't like the role of being a doctor itself--it was all the other surrounding reasons that formed the reality of being a doctor. I realize that I like the medical profession better from a far, and I still like to tune in on issues doctors face and the intellectual and rigorous challenge of pursuing medicine. That itch for tuning in once in a while is satisfied for me through following these intelligent entrepreneurial minds like Kevin Jubbal.

[@Carolina-xj3dq]

You both are successful and loving what you all are doing, it shows!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@JF-ct5sg]

Sí, los felicito 😌

[@vgorp3849]

I'm skeptical of a lot of what he said, but I'll first acknowledge that he's free to live his own life and he doesn't have to justify anything to anybody. That said, I just don't think any number of youtube videos will ever be as impactful as even one life-saving procedure or diagnosis. I see his logic but I don't follow. I'm also sure the entrepreneur/social media life is more "fun", but disagree that fun is a major component of a fulfilling or impactful life. He didn't say that explicitly but it seems very important to him. I could go on I think - it's shocking to me how much I disagree with some of his conclusions actually lol, but I wish him the best. You as well. Last thought - medicine isn't a safe bet at all. It's extremely risky. You have to take out a quarter million in loans to essentially bet that you'll pass every test and check off every list when one foul grade could dictate the course of your entire career - all before you have any idea of who you are or what you're capable of, usually. It's a long shot from half-court & if you miss you get 250k+ in debt.

[@kevinjubbalmd]

The attrition rate at most US medical schools is single digit. If you get into medical school and put in the work it’s very very safe.

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

Ali’s impact through KZbin is improving the quality of millions of lives, rather than the quantity/duration of a few lives. To each their own

[@Zestysarah]

Most people who take this safe risk have never failed a test in their life. School is an easy and safe route. That’s why I wanted to do it, because I was good at school and thought that that meant I should be a doctors because they’re the best at it. Wanted people to look at me as the most successful and caring person ever. Life eventually taught me that materialism and egotistical reasons were not what truly should matter to me.

[@Zestysarah]

To your first point: I’ve learned some really amazing things from KZbin videos. Saving someone’s life who is on a dark path does not automatically turn them to a better one. A good example of this is of someone I know who died of heart failure at 54. He had 3 heart attacks previously and did not change his diet and that killed him in the end. Medicine saved him several times but he never was inspired to change or deeply educate himself which could have prolonged his life possibly more. I, and many others have found inspiration, education, and supporting communities going through the same issues I have on KZbin. Now, not every KZbinr makes this type of content, but there is no shortage of life changing tools on the internet and videos that can reach and efficiently educate more people than a doctor.

[@Zetsuke4]

Wow that’s surprising! I’m just hearing the news for the first time from you

[@MizunoIronMan]

Ali is without doubt a very intelligent and successful entrepreneur. It has been disappointing though to see personality change in parallel with the success. . Originally quite modest , now I find his demeanour to be very smug and elitist . Good doctors very much like good nurses , take up the profession not for the money .

[@crazysox305]

Some people think that they don’t care about money, then enter the “real” world and realize just how much it influences everything.

[@shayan3731]

Great as always 👌

[@yashvashisht1805]

Do Collab with Ali abdaal and prerak juthani

[@ShaunAndersen]

I think this is a sign that I should quit med school and become a full-time KZbinr 🧐

[@holyknight9507]

Now you know the title of your next video!

[@SK-qz6uv]

You’re going to be a great doctor

[@oderadee169]

No

[@jasonsheby889]

Two of my favourites in one video 😍😍

[@Jejdjejbfjf]

If you watch Ali's videos especially the one with Sheen, he obviously does not come off as a caring person in his interactions with others, even with his friends. I think a certain personality trait is needed in helping professions like medicine, and it's not a good fit for Ali who is more entrepreneurial.

[@shellyt556]

Yeah, I do not think he is an uncaring person , but I did get a similar vibe about Ali. He intellectualizes everything to the point of not being empathetic

[@whazzas5023]

The NHS and the U.S. Health "system" are both highly strained, and covid has pushed a lot of staff to the breaking point. Primary care physicians at least in the United States are severely understaffed and there are also insufficient specialists for the aging population. There has been a long running debate about how to fund increased residency spots to train doctors for the needs of the United States population, but equally important is keeping existing doctors in practice. I wish you both the very best. No one should be forced to spend their life practicing medicine if that is not their passion and they want to do other things. But to say "someone will just take my place" is just intellectually lazy. Over time, less hospitals and clinics in rural places can achieve staffing and they will close. Longer wait times will exist for patients to see their doctors and health outcomes will go down, cancers will spread that could have been stopped sooner. I'm not trying to shame you, but you are certainly not interchangeable cogs and infinitely replaceable, every competent doctor is contributing to health of their community during each day of practice. It is very valuable training and training someone else to do your job takes a lot of time and resources.

[@evilreborn4088]

Why don't you become a doctor. Cause I don't think you are one. You don't know the stress, been treated as a donkey, no one teaches you, long hours and disrespect and spotted on for a mistake. Please even when I become a doctor only work at my time for money. Ig money is less quit. Cause no one gonna thank you for your work. Or be grateful. The real gratefulness is very little. Hospitals will be less? Doctors will be less? Good then people will value doctors. And not treat them as servants

[@whazzas5023]

@@evilreborn4088 I am a doctor. Ive worked in primary care for 7 years after finishing training. In the U.S there is still a lot of respect for doctors. We are the third most trusted occupation after nurses and fire fighters. Our reimbursement is at the 90th percentile. Its an incredibly long path and a very stressful life. I don’t blame anyone who needs to quit or finds a new passion, but its good to make sure you are going into the profession for the right reasons. Especially with a doctor shortage.

[@evilreborn4088]

@@whazzas5023 that means you in line for helping people first then money. Good for you. And I am happy atleast us citizens respect their doctors. In India it's not the case. If you search news feed you will see beating up doctors just cause patient died with no fault of doctor. Police don't do anything. Only do to covid did gov made strict rules against violence on doctors. But I know it gonna be temporary cause as soon as covid crises go away. Our gov will go back to licking people asses for votes. Anyway I will have to get very high step one and step 2 marks to get the line I want in USA. Hope it atleast be better than my country. And I am first for money and saving people is byproduct for me.

[@evilreborn4088]

@@whazzas5023 though about your very first comment. I don't agree with you that we are irreplaceable cogs. We doctors are very easily replacable by other people. As residency seats are very less as compared to medical students. And if hospital become less, cancer spreads so be it. At least then the people in decision making will understand the importance of healthcare. And everyone has one life. Why waste time living for others doing something you hate but is beneficial for others,. You never know when you gonna die. So live life for yourself and for your fun only.

[@abelrodriguezreyes7700]

Idols. Man, you are brave

[@andr3w7co14]

The collab we needed!

[@Userhandle7384]

He wanted more money it’s simple 🤷‍♀️ sheesh why can’t he just be honest about it? Wanting to go to the US to practice was the big tell. 😆

[@shellyt556]

That and freedom

[@crazydrofastronomy007]

One of the Most Fantastic video on reality check for doctors!!!... Great!!!

[@aweisen1]

It's good that he's making definitive decision for himself. However, he didn't get to the point in medicine, especially in the NHS, where he can make the impact that's talked about in this video. F2's are basically senior med students/interns. One doesn't start any type of specialty training until the third year after med school, then it's ~8 years from that point until you're 'fully trained' and can become a consultant (Attending.) He's achieved a level of competence and expertise with KZbin/Online that has satiated his achievement-drive sooner (maybe easier) than staying in medicine. I say this as a slight jab but, what matters in the end, is what he wants for his life, on his own terms. The NHS is far from great and could use entrepreneurship-minded leaders to help correct it. I wonder if the NHS paid better, if he'd stay in medicine (NHS pays like crap compared to the US.) UK - 5 Years med school (~23 years old,) 2/3 years foundation training (~25 years old,) ~3-7 years of specialty training (~28-32 years old, 'Consultant' title, full NHS pay of ~115,000 in 19 years [~50 years old]) UK docs can have a private practice which can increase their income. US - 3-4 years Undergrad (~22 years old,) 4 years Med School (26 years old,) 3-5 years Residency (29-31 years old, 'Attending' title, full pay based on specialty)

[@vgt1117]

How 19 years ? You don't like mathematics

[@mikaellarmond]

I agree, Ali didn’t get the full glimpse of what medicine is. He is literally just a 2 year doctor. He will never know the extent of his reach whether it be from administrative change in healthcare to new specialized services/ interventions. I genuinely think money was the most influential factor in his decision to quit. I’m a 2nd year medical student and I’ve decided that even if I want to start a business my first love is medicine.

[@aweisen1]

@@vgt1117 NHS pay scale for consultants maxes out after 19 years as a consultant.

[@Zetsuke4]

You made a very good point, and for that, I give you a BIG LIKE.

[@liv0003]

Actually in USA some specialties last longer than 3/5 years. Neurosurgery for example is 7 years and plastic surgery is 6. if we don't talk about the sub-specialization after residency, which nowadays almost everyone does if you want to be competitive enough in your career. So, for example you do a residency in neurosurgery 7 years plus fellowship 1 to 3 years depending on which path you choose.

[@StoryoftheEye]

Great content!~ x

[@razanali8586]

It seems like you are happy to be out of clinical medicine. Does it not kind of feel "weird" (for lack of a better term") to be marketing to pre-meds and charging for services on their journey towards something you yourself didn't want to do? No hate intended at all!

[@kevinjubbalmd]

I didn’t leave because I didn’t want to do it. I loved it but couldn’t do both at the level I wanted

[@Zetsuke4]

@@kevinjubbalmd It’s true. You can do both but to do something at the highest level, you have to devote all your time on it. It is clear you don’t want to just be an average influencer, entrepeneur, or plastic surgeon, but you want to be best in your field on it. So you can’t split the time on multiple things and still be world class in each of them.

[@davidkaff_1]

I wonder if part of the decision in leaving medicine has to do with some disillusionment in the industry at large?

[@M.S.1.5]

I absolutely hate "reaction" videos but O boy did I click on this video as soon as I saw. 26:37 Kevin Jabbal confirms he is part of Marvel universe!

[@alex_2020]

@Ali Abdaal, great job, keep shining! People in medicine are in a denial mode! The people who are running the show in medicine need some therapy themselves!

[@CraneTiger2]

Summary: It's easier to make money from KZbin.

[@s96822]

Best answer by far in the humble opinion of a very well seasoned attending, and you get to sleep at night if you so choose as well as not getting sued nor perpetual money grabs from professional organizations.

[@brucenome989]

Dr Ali I always enjoy watching his videos he the best.

[@oatmealpdf4052]

doctor influencers are not poisoning medicine, they're just extremely annoying

[@xyzxyzuvwuvw7633]

im not an influencer but these videos made me realise that i also dont want to be in medical school, i'm quiting too, wonder what my family will say since im half way through 4th year

[@primeirrational]

Just wondering; why not finish med school first and then have an MD which may help you in the future?

[@clar331]

If you plan to quit have a backup, it's easier said than done but write it out on paper, believe in yourself and just think you are giving up your seat for someone who actually wants it, best of luck 🙌

[@HannahTran1]

Well I mean this is why u should only go into medicine especially becoming a surgeon or any doctor if u can’t see urself doing anything else. You should have a extreme amount of passion for it that u won’t be able to find anywhere else. This is why I’m so careful on deciding if I want to get into medicine (in college rn) but I feel like the fact that i even have to think about shows if I went into medicine I one day would always have second thoughts. To stay in medicine u should only think about the medicine cause u can’t achieve that doing anything else. U can get satisfaction, helping others, problem solving, etc. somewhere else but to be a doctor/surgeon u have to want to be a master at that specific field and surround ur life learning just that cause it’s the only thing that will give u purpose in ur life.

[@MYMINDism]

I see these videos, I understand them, but I disagree I think the lack of mentorship, the lack of World experience, how young guys are contributed to your fickle Ness and inconsistencies led to you quitting. I am surgeon and I love it, I love working with my hands, I love operating. I wasn't as young as these guys and I know how age plays a factor that will never be addressed here.

[@Zetsuke4]

Very good and wise video by ali and you

[@DrPatrickKingsep]

Hi Kevin and Ali - another great video - entertaining too! It's interesting to hear why someone leaves medicine and what happens after this....you provide good comments about this topic. How are things for you now?

[@edenleave2054]

So I was an investment advisor for 10 years and volunteer emt. Now I’m 38 and in med school. It depends what area of Medicine you do but there are many options to be a community leader and help many people as a dr. The problem with all these KZbin guys is these channels don’t last a lifetime. I can’t imagine in 15 years any of these guys will be relevant. If you want to do business fine but don’t leave a good life for youtube

[@-notorious-2487]

Did you even watch the video? They both have used their KZbin channels as leverage to start businesses that are doing well and helping many people

[@TheKambingurun]

Is it ok continue study in med at 38 years old? I wish also to be a doctor/pharmacist but now i am an engineer.. i am not happy with my current position…crying…if i can reverse the time again..oh oh cyring more more again..huuuu

[@harvestingseason2725]

@@TheKambingurun what kinda of engineer are you and why do you hate your current job if I may ask

[@ayo123]

@@TheKambingurun of course you can

[@ayo123]

@@TheKambingurun listen, time will pass regardless. Regret is stupid; grateful for everything and just do what you want. It's your own future

[@erinnorwood6124]

So you're an MD but not using it? If I want to be a doctor, are there any specialties that allow you to work with just an MD or does everything require residency? Is clerkship part of med school or does it occur afterward? Thanks!

[@iwannaquit_]

Why did you quit medicine and are you still working in the medical science industry?

[@harveypraz7962]

I didn’t know you knew Ali Abdaal!!!

[@diegos.marquezdiaz4860]

Also depend of the posibilities and oportunities, because in LATAM You usually can't risk losing one profession becasue these are very expensive. Only one opinion 😅

[@diegos.marquezdiaz4860]

They are very expensive regardless of be free univerirsity (Most times) because belong to state or country

[@JayFriedrichs]

I just did a similar video but yours takes the cake by far 😂😂😂

[@Nicolee7764]

This was very interesting. l had thoughts recently about my prior career path. l cost myself so much time trying to hash out something that l didn't truly enjoy. lt cost me greatly in several ways.

[@michaelvonfriedrich3924]

Most Doctors in the US do the job because of the Money not because they like helping other people. My question to you is why would you want to become a doctor in America, let me see is it maybe because you would earn a hell of a lot more money than in the UK??????!!!!!!!!! You can also pump gas, or should I say petrol ⛽️

[@ania5038]

Yeah I've noticed unless you're like a leader in your medical field, on a bunch of leadership boards or have a lot of leadership roles, or you have some incredibly useful side skill like being able to also work on advancing medical treatments or robotics or whatever then medicine is just unique in its prestige and money guarantee.

[@Ace-Ace1]

Chances are, that kind of person you described comes from an inherited reputation

[@ania5038]

@@Ace-Ace1 What do you mean? Like they inherited the connections? I definitely think there's nepotism in medicine but there's plenty of people I know whose parents are doctors who didn't get into med school anyway.

[@carlosjavierandrewsgrant9364]

I like more the idea of being a Doc and Entrepreneur and give some scale to that, but everyone has the right to do wherever they want with their lives.

[@Attilablabla]

Wait how can you Post a reaction video without posting a Link to the original video?

[@kevinjubbalmd]

It’s in the description….

[@Attilablabla]

@@kevinjubbalmd I must be either crazy or extremely stupid because I just can't find it in the description 😳

[@kevinjubbalmd]

:O I stand corrected… Sorry we are adding it shortly

[@Attilablabla]

@@kevinjubbalmd thank you

[@joaoaox5485]

Can I have a creative side hustle being a medical doctor? Graphic art/illustrator and medical doctor for example.

[@Diya249]

the moment when you realize that 'doctor' literally means teacher.

[@happyheartslee]

Ah I remember I quit a few months after I saw your I quit video.....

[@jjc1797]

hella good advice, but always pulls me more and more to not do medicine in the middle of this reapplication cycle lmfao

[@smivlibee5936]

My question is what is the output? What are you contributing? If he feels he has nothing to offer, then okay.

[@amerghali5090]

17:40 Your Memm platform helped me jump from 505->515!

[@stevegaspar]

interesting. Thanks for sharing

[@vanessaamesty6739]

3 suicides in seven months! woow that's insane

[@davidlakhter]

21:01 geat aadvice!

[@evilreborn4088]

Wait weren't you plastic surgeon. Or did you quit in first year of that residency

[@liv0003]

He was in plastic surgery residency but he quits during his first or second year, I don't remember exactly. He doesn't practice medicine/surgery anymore. He changed his career to be an entrepreneur

[@Zetsuke4]

BIG LIKE

[@afraalsamkari2445]

Is it possible to send you an email? Kevin.

[@DivorceCouncilor]

Tips on how to be as successful as Dr. Jubbal and Dr. Abdaal. 1. Learn pen spinning tricks

[@unkown3136]

I love what you said 7:55 to 8:00

[@danny9642]

So much crap from influencers. Medicine is so flexible that you can do many things while being a doctor. Do not quite medicine because of short term money. Most doctors start making better money after residency. But in this day and age, everyone wants to be rich so fast. Entrepreneurship has never even be about money but impact and creating jobs.

[@maliquelofton5193]

This video reminds me of thT kobe and kayne west and kobe commercial 💀 Kayne :How much more successful can I be ? Kobe: more successful

[@danielalexander799]

If you are smart enough to get in to medical school, then you are smart enough to do something else.

[@gilesboy1771]

If medicine is so hard why don't you just go into derm??? No I'm kidding could you imagine

[@jackmarshall5911]

IMO, trying to become a doctor is a huge risk. I don’t view the people that do it as “risk averse.”

[@Zetsuke4]

I wouldn’t say being a plastic surgeon is more prestigious than being an entrepeneur. I would say being a plastic surgeon is more respected than being a typical entrepeneur, for the common person. But it depends on what kind of etrepeneur you are too.

[@aremayo9262]

14:00 You say that but you have M.D. in your channel name 😂