Ali Abdaal’s Regrets About Quitting Medicine | Surgeon Dropout Reacts

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Would you like to see me make a follow-up video discussing my thoughts on the decision to leave medicine 5 years later? 🤔

[@electri2024]

Ali is a very smart man, but I think he underestimates the exit opportunities from medicine. To say the consulting industry is saturated with medicine graduates is ridiculous, if anything it is extremely saturated with standard bachelor/master degrees of economics, advertising, business etc. Besides, there are many other industries where medicine gradutes can thrive and go into quite easily.

[@hadi_177re]

Ali's honesty is something I always learn from. He's honest to himself before being honest to others. I've been following him since I was in med school and I was happy with every decision he makes. He lets reason and logic lead his decision making not feelings and crap.

[@JulesVi]

Commenting before watching: I seriously think getting 49 minutes of you talking is the universe's gift to me for taking two extra tough exams in med school two days in a row 🙃

[@Evan-rx6cj]

Point of distinction on the whole “helping people” thing… Ali likes to say he has saved lives and points to DMs where people state they would have died without his help… and it’s like how a doctor saves lives. Except doctors interventions are evidence based. For all he knows, these people would have had a spontaneous remission in suicidality or simply found someone else to help them… at least doctors have some measure of causality to their interventions.

[@danielkiprov7998]

That comment is so reductionist

[@kayvonetebar2449]

Very well said Evan.

[@yabbamita]

One could also make a utilitarian argument that a med influencer coudl 'save more lives' though public education, helping more people become doctors, and helping doctors be better doctors--not that I subscribe to that line of thinking however

[@dremmanuelnwogu]

In UK, you do two years of foundation training(internship), then 3 years of core surgical training before getting into plastic surgery.

[@nokialover31]

I disagree on the Social Status. A Plastic Surgeon's social status is WAY higher than a youtuber's. That's a FACT.

[@elcee8]

I personally never regret leaving my full time work. I am now per diem and I highly doubt I would ever go back to full time. I don't mind working hard for a few months a year and then take months off doing other things. Yes, I have a higher monthly premium for health insurance but the freedom is worth it to me.

[@guitar.enjoyer2]

What are you working at the moment?

[@elcee8]

@@guitar.enjoyer2 I’m a nurse practitioner

[@apprentice500]

The difficulty going back to a specific competitive training scheme is the same in the UK, esp. surgery/dermatology/opthalmology. I think AA is saying he can go back to being a doctor e.g working in A&E as another body etc very easily.

[@johanne7]

Went through the same process switching speciality from ophto to psychiatry!

[@thanhthanhvo5191]

why did you do that? if you don't mind me asking

[@johanne7]

@@thanhthanhvo5191 I parallel planed into both. got into opt but was missing psych too much. couldn't imagine my life without day to day psychosocial interventions with my patients. I had to chose the speciality I was more passionate about.

[@immane75]

@@johanne7 same thing happened to me 17 years ago when I switched from cardio to radio !

[@tbhtbh5024]

Kevin you keep saying the you left medicne to pursue entrepreneurship but didn’t you consider into becoming a plastic surgeon with multiple practices??

[@joshb2686]

No way I would ever go into medicine to make what they make overseas. It’s literally not worth it and I say that as someone who loves Medicine.

[@yabbamita]

I would only take the UK salary if the cost of med school is heavily subsidised and work life balance is good. From what I've heard, however, work life balance is not great over there (at least compared to Aus) and med school cost is increasing.

[@thebeatles9]

i'm in a position where I just want to be a physician, right? Like, I don't care what any other job pays, I don't care if I could be a superstar somewhere else. I don't even care what specialty I go in--put them all out on a dartboard and blindfold me and I'll toss the dart. I just want to be a doctor.

[@liyaloha3945]

You said it perfectly!

[@modernkhajiit]

It's nice you miss the atmosphere of operating theatre. I will miss it too, but I won't miss the prize I payed to feel welcomed and recognized in this place. For most of the time, I would be treated as a stupid little girl from primary school: scolded, insulted, ignored. After few months I would be treated almost as well as my male colleagues. Every change of workplace means starting all over again with mobbing and "checking" your limits. I have seen experienced female anaesthesiologists going through this circus all over again in the new place, espacially if they appeared much younger than they were. I can't imagine going through this once again. I don't really know how I could suffer those little pittiful fights every single time I tried to just do my job, with patient desaturating, going through atrial fibrillation and nurses scolding me for giving orders, just because I appeared too young for them to give them orders. I will miss orthopaedic jokes but now I miss being treated as an adult. Medicine was hell.

[@Osama_Alkadomi]

you should do a deep dive podcast with Ali

[@yabbamita]

I never realised how low UK consultant/attending salaries are... I thought they'd be similar to here in Australia, but they are significantly lower... On average, we're about 75% that of US and it seems UK is about 75% that of Aus (or even less)...

[@katytj643]

Medicine is like a drug addiction u use u r happy but ur lows are too hard and when u leave u always miss the feeling specially if u have been a surgwon .so i guess when u become an MD whether u leave or stay always will have bitter sweet feelings and always will think WHAT IF... so really there is no way out🤣

[@KhallelaB.]

FIRST!

[@Kenanalasadi8989]

اسال الله ان يهديك للاسلام

[@ghaida76]

امين

[@Pdmc-vu5gj]

Ali talks too much ... That's his problem...

[@leorahil]

It needs so much effort and hardwork studying medicine then wth you left this profession now...

[@JustineAprilJ]

The fallacy of sunk costs, ladies and gentlemen

[@leorahil]

@@JustineAprilJ makes sense...

[@adaezenjoku7527]

@@leorahil why continue something you no longer want to do if i have more options? yes u already put hard work but continuing won’t make u happy is you don’t like it

[@leorahil]

@@adaezenjoku7527 it doesn't work for everyone Still u need a new journey of hardworking for other thing...

[@samirkarki192]

third !

[@Moshi980]

First

[@rakeshskulkarni9515]

Pp

[@deadricchampion6856]

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