Ali Abunimah: why 'Holocaust Harris' deserved to lose

[@Peter-m5n7m]

FORCE AIPAC TO REGISTER AS A FOREIGN AGENT!!!

[@brainxtc2171]

With what power?

[@samsung40_media87]

@@brainxtc2171 exactly

[@geogeo2299]

Unfortunately Trump won't do it. Almost all republicans are on AIPAC's payroll (only 1 isn't). Still, the Right is the political space that muslims belong to. Given time and good strategy, they could come to antagonize zio influence.

[@marygarrapa3537]

​@@brainxtc2171hopefully people power.

[@chrisko6439]

@@marygarrapa3537 Lol. The country has long been sold, bought and paid for. Its owners make the rules, not you.

[@Ha1a_r]

Ali's views are the only correct and moral views regarding the Gaza genocide.

[@JohnHH59]

100%. He is correct on all points.

[@Aymeric-b7y]

Good luck with Trump now

[@joecaner]

@@Aymeric-b7y BUT TRUMP DUMP

[@FS-dk4hg]

Agree with Ali 💯 - Im not a fan of Trump whatsoever, but I cannot see Trump being any worse than Harris! Trump is unpredictable! He may surprise us all in a good way 🤞 Harris fully deserves what she got! A landslide defeat! Couldn’t trust a word she was saying! She is a hypocrite and a snake 🐍

[@himurahaibara1459]

​@@Aymeric-b7yaa if Kamala gonna do something different.

[@elysianfields1671]

She deserves to lose because she is horrible. That simple.

[@samsung40_media87]

losing is getting off lightly. she needs to be imprisoned

[@mickeyandmycrafts]

And Trump is nit? Ignorant you are.

[@ChannelMath]

WHO CARES what SHE personally deserves? who cares about her AT ALL?? This is such a bizarre discussion topic

[@sammoseh3899]

@@ChannelMath How???…..The topic is valid ,Why she lost and why she deserved to lose connection……Less eMOTIONs ,More intellect more objectivity

[@mamatrain100]

And Trump changes what? He has dementia. She's A liar, he's A liar and genocide supporting maniac. Jared is selling Gaza as you speak?

[@petergiaschi35]

Oh, and Rashida Tlaib far outperformed Harris.Lesson learned? Nope.

[@holilex]

excellent point for everyone saying this loss was about race or gender

[@tjallingdalheuvel126]

Absurd deflection. Only thing they have. Accuse other ti he something they are not. Deflecting from what they deeds and lack of deeds show they are. Not working. Kindergarten level tactics.

[@joecaner]

@@holilex As if Kamala and all the rest of the lying Democrats care about the real reason they took a waxing at the ballot box. They will attempt to pin the blame for their ineptitude and failures on anyone and everyone except themselves and their crap policies.

[@grisflyt]

The "lesson learned" is going to be the same as always. We need to get rid of the (non-existing) radical elements in the party and move further right in order to win over the people voting for the Republicans. The fact is that lots of people who voted for Trump in 2016 would have voted for Bernie.

[@amgguy4319]

Not only does she refuse ANY restriction of munintions, she simultaneously refused funding to UNWRA and refused Water, Food, Medicine to Palestinians for ONE YEAR.

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If policies of ▪︎Superior Race ideology,Dehumanization,Starvation,Gassing (White Phosphorus),Concentration Camps,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc are repeated ▪︎Classifies as - Apartheid 2 or Holocaust 2?

[@allcatall3931]

'yea, but she offered grocery discount to her voters'..

[@craigbrowning5196]

It's horrible. trump is worse. We need to defeat the Israel lobby to change having two such bad choices.

[@philipangelo595]

I couldn't vote for someone who facilitated genocide.

[@nilaleduc5043]

Same

[@juliethakopian9296]

Oh great , but fascism doesn't bother you right? See you in a year!

[@humanidee118]

​@@juliethakopian9296yes she's a fascist too

[@philipangelo595]

@@juliethakopian9296 Genocide doesn't bother you right? See you in a year.

[@ChannelMath]

@@juliethakopian9296 you understand there is no logic-ing your way to "the correct" position on this, right? Or do you not understand the arguments against your position?

[@lynnfaulkner2706]

I don’t know how all of you at Greyzone and EI have continued under what must be unthinkable grief and frustration, but please know how deeply you are all appreciated.

[@colorswordsandlearning]

Yes . Very much so . ❤

[@pamelaearl7191]

❤‍🩹🍉🍉🍉🍉

[@loisodea4869]

As a former democrat, the party needs to put in the dustbin of history.

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If AIPAC influence/interfere ▪︎In USA Politics/Elections ▪︎USA President is picked by ▪︎Americans/USA or AIPAC/Israel?

[@buddygrimfield7954]

Both carrion-like wings of the pestilent Uni Party belong there!! And not soon enough.

[@craigbrowning5196]

No, Republicans do.

[@Test-x9k]

Like the Whig party.

[@Test-x9k]

Dems also oversaw the Rwandan g-cide under Bill Clinton & the atomic Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombs on Japan. Dems seem to specialize in gcides.

[@clearvision07]

To those who say "it is not a genocide" I want them to tell us what else has to happen to be labelled it as a genocide?

[@Soul-zl6bb]

@clearvision07 I simply challenge them to refute the Order of the International Court of Justice of 26 january 2024 on the genocide. Usually they don't know it.

[@orionxingu1758]

those who say its not a genocide will not endure a single day what Palestinians are going through.

[@Test-x9k]

Trump has to be in office for it to be classified as such for Dems.

[@JamesThompson-hn3sm]

Bless Ali ,one of the most beautiful souls that walks the earth ❤

[@danielmfletch]

Ali raises a point that I think will go down in history...the fact that Biden was SOOO complicit was the worst thing for Israel. Not stopping Israel is the reason why Israel will fall.

[@sadiebestdogever4982]

Israel will fail because it is a colonizing apartheid racist state. The genocide is sadly just a symptom of that. And let’s not forget that only approximately 6% of the Israeli population feel that too much force is being used in Gaza. It’s not just Netanyahu or Harris/Biden. The Israeli people are 100% complicit too.

[@youngandrestlessjean3634]

Exactly. Actions have consequences. Cause and affect. Israel has lost its moral high ground. They are no longer the victims anymore, but aggressors of mass death.

[@LauraHalvar]

Yessss...his psychopathy exposed the psychopathic state. He literally screamed what a diehard zionist he is. 🤣🤡

[@adriannehaddow8972]

They flouted international law, they flouted US law regarding arms shipment to a genocidal state. Vetoed every call for ceasefire in the UN. Allowed Netanyahu's cabal to investigate its own war crimes against civilians, humanitarian aid workers and reporters, and find they were 'mistakes'. Ali's analysis of the war machine and the Democrat's role in this horror is spot on.

[@gerhard7323]

Not just a genocidal state, but also a rogue nuclear state.

[@Free-g8r]

Ali Abunimah is the best of the best. Truly a powerhouse and someone to admire. He's dedicated his life to Palestine and founded EI when it was still an obscure issue.

[@marguerX]

I did not know this, I just started watching EI 8 months ago. He is fierce, compassionate and fierce, my favorite.

[@AJHall-y4z]

Ali is amazingly eloquent and very logical - thank you all three of you for your continuing efforts for Palestinians.

[@marygarrapa3537]

We've seen that voters didn't really believe her.

[@orionxingu1758]

sadly none of the two candidates can be believed on their hollow campaign promises.

[@dhibba52]

Screw Harris. Screw Biden. Screw the Secretary of State. Screw Miller.

[@andreaschmall5560]

Screw both parties.

[@TVeldhorst]

And screw the rest of the US, because its going to get worse under Trump and project 2025. This election was impossible. The two party system is a huge fail.

[@frederiquecouture3924]

❤

[@Lynn-i2w]

Worldwide BDS Israel.

[@colorswordsandlearning]

​​@@Lynn-i2wand Tech BDS for Congo and BDS UAE for Sudan ...

[@David-v2t8h]

I live in New York State. I called and wrote AOC and numerous other congressmen and women here repeatedaly pleading with them about our complicity in Gaza. I heard NOTHING from any of them….including AOC

[@brav0wing]

Because they are complicit.

[@jmc4935]

Dude! Me too with my Cali rep and senator. My rep was a lame duck rep -- not running for reelection -- and my senators never replied. I wrote to both campaigns that the genocide was going to cost us and that blocking weapons was the way to win, but nope. The Jewish vote was more important and it cost them the youth, Muslim, and anti war vote. AIPAC for you.

[@auntiebobbolink]

We unhoused people are used to being ignored in the same way. Our suffering doesn't matter. The prejudice against us doesn't matter. But none of you have seen us. Now you see what it feels like to be ignored. The hatred against poor people in this country is now visible globally. Will that affect how you see those of us right in front of you?

[@sctrh2]

I'm from the UK and live in Europe and it's been evident to me for... Decades, probably... The USA detests poor people. More so than any race or culture. Sickos run the country. Have done throughout yet no one in the USA seems to want to acknowledge it, let alone change it. I can't believe homelessness isn't top of the political agenda. It's mental. ​@@auntiebobbolink

[@maypen-w4y]

Not surprised

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

"The biggest insult to the memory of the Holocaust is not denying it, but using it as an excuse to justify the genocide of the Palestinian people." - Norman Finkelstein

[@insidiousmischka]

I agree 1 million % with Ali.

[@GoddessOfWhatnot]

I feckin LOVE Ali. His moral clarity and his ability to articulate it is so validating ❤️‍🔥

[@nolitetebastardescarborund9761]

And with such a soothing voice, not to mention his beautiful eyes.

[@slampersand3145]

Proper men of conscience. Love and appreciation to you all 💗🙏🕊️

[@davidcheung6404]

It was a fitting end and a total repudiation of this vile administration

[@sarachiba6012]

Ali Abunimah 💐🦋🍃

[@deanhowell9251]

Love the truth your guest is speaking!

[@gregoryvschmidt]

I’m not happy DJT won but I’m ecstatic Harris lost.

[@lynnfaulkner2706]

Strange times, yes?

[@maypen-w4y]

Just like last election

[@Tomthatguy69999]

anthoney blinken needs to be jailed

[@sumaaami925]

💯

[@barbararenovato2645]

Trump will fire him.

[@pamelaearl7191]

I bet his children will change their last names.

[@humanitarianly]

Ali is correct.

[@deschutesmaple4520]

Ali Abunimah is excellent. He knows the Palestine vs !srael/usa conflict with such a breadth and depth of knowledge. Probably the best guest Grayzone has brought on in a long time. Kudos!

[@GingerPeacenik]

She's a Dick Cheney/ John Bolton Republican cosplaying as a member of "the Left".

[@geogeo2299]

Don't forget that the Neocons were originally part of the Left.

[@sinic1978]

​@@geogeo2299some people have selective memory when it comes to the Left

[@ScarySox]

@@sinic1978 She was endorsed by the Cheneys!🤷

[@AtheistEve]

She’s not even getting that right. The left disowns her.

[@buddygrimfield7954]

@@sinic1978 Well, she lost. So, not too many of us, it would seem.

[@MalcolmMacPhail-mt1gt]

Two of the best independent news programs together-great to see. Ali is such a passionate and intelligent commentator.

[@Marxist2]

I'm so glad she lost.

[@deschutesmaple4520]

Spot on. Harris is a careerist poser with zero authenticity. As so many have observed, she doesn't have her own authentic agency or views. She simply recites what her team Biden handlers coach her to say. She's a fake, and many see through her fakeness.

[@ChannelMath]

me too, but not as sad as I am Trump won.

[@nolitetebastardescarborund9761]

Me too, but sad Dr. Jill didn't get her 5%.

[@JJ-of7ms]

​@@nolitetebastardescarborund9761I didn't even realize Dr Jill Biden was even running.

[@lauriebrown2858]

@@ChannelMathlol you people have seen nothing yet you all are so smug about punishing the democrats it’s going to be the republicans that punish you this country is very racist and they will now let you see it.

[@fredhayward1350]

Well put Ali. Yep all they had to do was stop sending bombs.... but no.

[@alroshan556]

I agree with Ali hindered percent!. Thank you to the Grayzone for the show.

[@jamesboswell9324]

"There's no whatabout when it comes to genocide." Well said Ali.

[@nickjohnson4923]

Great eloquence Ali; these dark times illuminated by this triumvirate of excellence.

[@Globe-m6z]

She was screeching 'I love Israel the most!!' I will be their servant, oops, I mean the President of America😂

[@Test-x9k]

US = empire by denial/deception. - Immerwahr ...using their proxy Israel, UAE, Germany, Ukraine, Japan, France, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Apartheid South Africa, Belgium, etc.

[@EduardoGorab]

GZ and EI, superb duo and superb live trio as well! Congratulations on the excellent analyses! Warm regards from São Paulo, Brazil!

[@deschutesmaple4520]

Ainda bem que estás aqui 🙂

[@EduardoGorab]

@@deschutesmaple4520 Eu digo o mesmo a você!

[@marktaylor3489]

"There's no 'what about genocide'" .... Exactly.

[@shaphyshaphy]

She doesnt have any qualities of a good leader

[@jayadams3339]

Drump doesn't have ANY good qualities.

[@jinndoe7068]

Leader? Are you a child? I'm not looking for a leader. Be ungovernable, behave with honor.

[@loamrider3086]

She doesn't have any qualities of a good human being.

[@buddygrimfield7954]

@@jinndoe7068 Oh sit down.

[@shaphyshaphy]

@jinndoe7068 last time I checked a president is a leader and the president of the US is the most powerful position. Even children know this

[@najahrammouni7492]

Absolutely Everything Ali says is True,

[@2010Sanctuary]

Ali always lays it out perfectly!

[@thomassciaroni6942]

Our Leader Ali 💖

[@diegoisawesomeable]

I’d vote for ali if he ran

[@ryanm7097]

Incredibly well said.

[@sumairafriscic]

Everything Ali has said, is spot on. everyone around the world is thinking what he is saying, not just america!!!!

[@nihluxler1890]

None of them deserved to win, so really it was the least stressful election I’ve ever lived through.

[@alisamurdock7667]

But somebody DID win. That's what no one understands. That somebody is going to make this so very much worse. Unimaginable. Watch.

[@Yomi4D]

The sweetest loss one could want to punish them. I'm one that's happy that Kamala lost even though I know the situation could well remain unchanged, but I keep my fingers crossed.

[@TheFaro2011]

I'm absolutely with Ali on this one. It's that narcissistic thinking of dems, where they do the most, and then pretend and promise they'll change. Great line up guys. I listen to all your independent shows

[@albertmorris5498]

It's easier to pressure the Mafia than it is to pressure Kamala Harris. I'm glad she lost.

[@SavePlanetPlease]

All of this!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

76 year long apartheid, 17 year long blockade of Gaza and now committing genocide. PURE EVIL

[@joecaner]

PURE, all natural, 100% organic, pasture raised EVIL with an abundance of artificial concern.

[@amanderik]

Trump 2.0 is going to be a shitshow, don't kid yourselves, but Harris deserved to lose and this is a brilliant explanation of why from Ali.

[@streamylc]

Damn.... what is your definition of a 💩 show?

[@oldpondfrog788]

Perhaps something can now be done about election integrity.

[@ChannelMath]

@@oldpondfrog788 you really think anything could be done that would make the armchair MAGA loon believe in the election result? please. And there's no problem there anyway

[@jayadams3339]

@@oldpondfrog788 With the head denier in charge of everything? Good luck with any reform now. US is F'd for 50 years at least after these next 4 years. Mark my words.

[@nolitetebastardescarborund9761]

@@streamylc We shall see what we shall see.

[@julesjules5439]

Harris deserved to lose! 💯

[@elizabethmilos1130]

Exactly! Why are US women more important than Palestinian women’s rights to stay alive?

[@lauriebrown2858]

Well thanks to you and others women won’t be you will be just like them good job good job good job. You think these people are going to help you no they won’t they will let you rot. People in this country are mad at people who got Trump in to care about the people who voted him in your going to see an America that will leave you behind even more.

[@Teresa-zu3zk]

Ali is correct!

[@garliclasagna]

Please have Ali on weekly... he's fantastic and EI has done (along with you guys) a massive service to people standing on the right side of history during this genocide.

[@Bodderfly]

I’ll never vote for Dems ever again

[@nilaleduc5043]

Same!

[@nataliekhanyola5669]

Same.

[@halakurshov1380]

If I were American, I'd do the same. I'd vote 3rd party no matter what.

[@timn5008]

Good. Republicans too, I presume? The system and it's two Parties are the problem.

[@diegoisawesomeable]

Not a representative, senator, council member, mayor, governor, anything ever. I will never vote blue no matter who. It could be fdr incarnate, or even Bernie sanders who I have voted for before. But never again.

[@professortolk]

Ali is always hitting the nail on the head with his moral truth. Keep speaking brother. Aron, stop defending these monsters. Salam Alekum. God bless Palestine.

[@michaellear6904]

I'm no fan of Trump but I feel America dodged a bullet by not voting for Harris.

[@bryonbean]

Ali Abunimah so deftly articulates my anger.

[@tseguteselassie7413]

You are absolutely right. I take my hat off to you for voicing your views.

[@DarkMatterZombies]

This is why I support the GrayZone.

[@staticcouch135]

Thank you Max and Aaron for allowing Ali to let it out, I could feel the pain in his voice. ❤

[@glovader]

Chicanos with Palestine ❤

[@orooropaa1846]

Thank you, gentlemen There can be no peace without justice and there can be no justice without truth.

[@geofsawaya394]

Free the hostages. That only applies to Israeli hostages, not the 10k Palestinian hostages.

[@SleepyCatCottage]

Excellent program. Today's guest addresses the genocide so well. Thank you. Somehow the genocide needs to stop. 🛑

[@danielhutchinson6604]

If the efforts of Victoria Nuland over the last 30 years are overlooked, we may agree that this Administration is the fault of the contemporary form of Crisis. The Colonial effort to include Russian Resources among the products available for Oligarchs to exploit, hardly are different from the British Empire Investors complaining about Ghandi?

[@zoltanbarath7371]

Or the "Opium wars" re the British empire.

[@danielhutchinson6604]

@@zoltanbarath7371 Whatever it takes to shut up the Poor Huddled Masses......

[@tyfromuzi5871]

Ali & GZ awesome 🌞❤️

[@mgm8822]

Great guest, I appreciate the clarity of his speech.

[@nodealfornature2249]

Bless you, Ali. 💗

[@elizabethmilos1130]

I am so proud of the Dearborn Michigan voters who voted 22% for Jill Stein.

[@lauriereid4531]

This is EXCELLENT! TRUTH

[@Aldamiras]

All words of a failed candidate. She can't do anything.

[@kristyraney5886]

I love Ali! And I love the Grayzone. 🙏🏼❤️

[@nedkelly8495]

Sending greetings of solidarity to GZ. To Ali Abunimah. From newzealand aotearoa. As always, it's an enlightening experience listening to u3. Ali's reasons for the failures (hypocrisy) of kamala are illuminating. He exposes not just the lies perpetrated by genocide Joe & holocaust Harris, but also the logic of (in the words of the remarkable Jill Stein) 'voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil'. My family & I also celebrate (?) that Harris lost. Kia kaha! Kia toa!.

[@4imagesmore]

Ali is superb and makes all the right arguments. The rest is just fluff.

[@chew5461-l7f]

Well said Ali!

[@dieterbarkhoff1328]

Three real human beings: Ali, Aaron, and Max.

[@thechurch5000]

Nothing seems worse to me than being against genocide all year than saying you're voting for Kamala right before the election because Trump might be worse or Kamala might change her policy or whatever. I personally find that way of thinking offensive and infuriating.

[@rosariocannistraro3561]

Heard A million Libs use that "she can be pushed argument " and its like what in the last 30-40 years of Dem politics makes you think that'll ever happen ? , They live on this gaslighting and hopium of things that literally never happen but every election they're going to push so and so left lol and its never ever come true but THIS time it will not like the other million times that the party just flipped them the bird five minutes after the election . Its just completely bananas to hear them talk such alternate universe nonsense .

[@fredhayward1350]

indeed. well put.

[@fredhayward1350]

Indeed.

[@wiesaalabrahams7700]

Absolutely 💯

[@jonathanmcclendon1873]

People who take that argument just think you're gullible. Either that or it's an ignorant power dynamic flex because in taking that position, what they're really doing is admitting that there is no choice between the two parties to step outside the thumb of the Zionist project. Which busts the influence of the Israeli lobby on our "democracy" they're so amped to share across the world.

[@AdastraRecordings]

They've destroyed the temples in Baalbek.

[@wiesaalabrahams7700]

They are criminals with evil hearts. No words

[@Lynn-i2w]

Well said Ali.

[@davidfirmino3829]

Ali abunimah is completely correct

[@ronnawallace7474]

Thank you Ali this is the truest, most complete, explanation of what the democrats have done and why.

[@CircaBEFORE]

*I could not agree with you more Ali* 🍉

[@JuneBarbone]

If Americans people had a heart, and a red line, Jill Stein would have be our President. Disappointed in my fellow Americans. 😭 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚🇯🇴🕊️

[@DrumguyCiv]

But Kamala, you weren’t being honest with your word salad and the American people knew this, so they voted accordingly.

[@marjoriejohnson3147]

from Chris Hedges~ " I don't fight fascists because I think I'll win~ I fight fascists because they are fascists~"

[@lynnfaulkner2706]

I loathe Trump for his support of Israel, but I'm glad he won. Talk about cognitive dissonance. For another wonderful summary on this, Neil Oliver has a superb take.

[@sctrh2]

Yes, American government is absolutely driving this genocide as nuch as Israel is, abd im fed up with people skirting around that fact as if they're just helpless bystanders.

[@susantambling527]

Great segment!

[@patriciaeddy7629]

I agree with you 100%, Ali.

[@ieuan-tl2uo]

Thanks!

[@alexus4022]

Ali 100% ❤‍🩹 Outrage at Imperial double standards, dirt and lies. Greetings from Greece 👋

[@carlareac5762]

Absolutely Ali, well said. Thanks.

[@alexandermacgillivray598]

Here here,Ali.

[@EarthtonesCymbals]

"The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe; for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them."

[@Buf-g6m]

Quoted from where?

[@clearvision07]

Donald Trump would not have acted differently but he would not act like a hypocrite and pretend to be concerned about Israeli atrocities.

[@jkaur4736]

Incredible discussion & insight...thank u!

[@under-en6lo]

She sucked in every area.

[@sophiescarborough7219]

Literally 🤔🤣

[@ChannelMath]

@@sophiescarborough7219 this must be the MAGA section of the comments

[@antondalemma5484]

@@ChannelMath Cheated Bernie out of race. Abandoned working class. Jumped further right. Allied with Cheney's. And most of all, backed brutal genocidal campaign against Palestinians. Dems and their compliant neolib cutout Harris sucked in every area.

[@HashimA-ti9gu]

Yeah she’s horrendous. Criminal justice, environment, foreign policy, economic policy, domestic policy, etc. every single thing.

[@HidalgoQuijote]

Lethal defeat