"Everyone in Wonderland was insane but not stupid." THANK YOU. The whole idea with Wonderland is that it makes sense, but doesn't make the kind of sense we're _used to._ To quote the Caterpillar in the 1999 Hallmark version: "Everything has a purpose, even here."
@thomastakesatollforthedark22314 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I'm reading it now and once you realize it's a story for children by children, basically, then it starts to make sense. Food is meant to make you grow strong and healthily, so drinks are meant to shrink you, clearly. A footman is meant to open the door but won't cause he's not on different side to Alice. You want to go somewhere, just walk anyway and you'll reach anywhere. What they do isn't stupid or inefficient, it's just foreign and the logic à child could see adults employing
@firebladetenn66333 жыл бұрын
“If one drinks from a bottle marked poison, it’s sure to disagree with one sooner or later.” Love the book and the movie.
@donovan94566 жыл бұрын
Okay! If Disney adaptations are now on the table, I'm BEGGING you, Dom, you-beautiful-example-of-manliness-you, to do The Hunchback of Notre Dame! Please!
@Chidon06 жыл бұрын
Hopefully with no gargyoles.
@LucyLioness1004 жыл бұрын
Oh that would be quite the interesting video
@nicholassims98373 жыл бұрын
@@LucyLioness100 its called the Ugly Hunchback. Once there was an ugly Hunchback he was so ugly everyone died . The end .
@captainjakemerica457911 ай бұрын
The Disney version is amazing it has its strengths as does the book
@lnt3059 ай бұрын
Okay so this thread is super old but since he doesn’t videos suggested in the comments and I didn’t see it in upcoming list, I would suggest watching Lindsey Ellis video. It’s not primarily focused on adaptation but does go into it how it’s influenced by earlier adaptations
@mandymaclean10554 жыл бұрын
"Short story? What version was he -- oh wait, he's probably not reading the annotated Alice...the version where the notes in the margins occasionally get so long they have to stop the story to fill pages with notes." On the plus side, the annotated version walks through how Wonderland is actually a mathematician's fever dream
@Arkylie2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was expecting a nod to some of the weirdness being a pushback by Carroll against his era's version of "new math" or whatever. Plus, there's so much to love about the use of language in this piece!
@CharleneCTX4 ай бұрын
I also read the annotated version and was thinking "short story?!"
@livclark81544 жыл бұрын
I think the reason this story is so popular for filmmakers is that the original book is so weird in of itself it just allows for all sorts of creative lee-way. _ANY_ interpretation of the story is correct!
@livclark81544 жыл бұрын
9:20 The fact that even Tim Burton and Jan Svankmajer's versions didn't include this scene is a testament to the utter nightmare fuel of it all.
@tracy42904 ай бұрын
I had to slap my hand over that illustration in the book so I couldn't see it!
@DetectiveSpratt8 жыл бұрын
If I'm right they actually meant to include the mock turtle and the gryphon, but they were cut for time's sake. Their designs would later reappear in a Jell-O commercial. Dead serious.
@DecoyBlackMage8 жыл бұрын
+Jack Spratt They where used in the 1999 adaption if I recall right, it has been a few years since I saw that for television version though.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
+Jack Spratt Same with the Jabberwoki being cut for time. The making of this movie was rather grueling if I remember correctly. Mary Blair was really the unsung hero of the production.
@TheJthedog6 жыл бұрын
Jack Spratt I remember reading somewhere that he Duchess scene was also supposed to be in the film (like we’re talking they had the scenes drawn but without the animation) but was cut for being too disturbing for kids
@kirkbupkis5 жыл бұрын
You weren't kidding. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWLOfX2qj7SLoZI
@undeadladybug77235 жыл бұрын
Is it me, or does the narrator sound kind of like Pooh Bear?@@kirkbupkis
@cheezemonkeyeater8 жыл бұрын
I've both read the book and seen the movie. I liked the book's story better, but I did enjoy the visuals of the movie. The movie's Queen of Hearts is actually a mix of two characters from the two books - The Queen of Hearts (obviously) and the Red Queen from Through The Looking Glass. The line "All ways are my ways," is the Red Queen's line, and it's a reference that the queen go on any square on the chess board in a way that no other piece can.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
+cheezemonkeyeater Well, I would say 90% Queen of Hearts, and 10% Red Queen, mostly with a few lines here and there. Its nowhere near as mixed like in all other adaptations, where they are basically one character. That always kinda bothered me, people mix the two characters up so often, hell it even happened frequently in Lewis Carol's time.
@hamishmacfleetwood52293 жыл бұрын
@@LadyTylerBioRodriguez Carroll not Carol
@criticalmaz16098 жыл бұрын
I think my biggest pet peeve is when people mistake the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen for the same character. Well, that and, say, making an adaption of an adaption rather than the source material so it all ends up looking incredibly inbred.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
+Maria Rae I agree, that is a pet peeve of mine as well. And it's EVERYWHERE. It happened a lot when Lewis Carol was alive, and its only gotten worse. I love the Jefferson Airplane song White Rabbit, and even they called her the Red Queen. Same with the Tim Burton version, but that's the least of that movies problems. American Megee did that as well, but I think he may have done that intentionally.
@strawberrysoulforever83366 жыл бұрын
Some people would argue that Disney's Queen Of Hearts was actually a mix of the original Queen of Hearts and Red Queen. But again, that's one reason why the Tim Burton movie annoyed me. If she's in Wonderland, the Queen needs to be called the Queen Of Hearts, no matter how much of the Red Queen's character is borrowed. Then again, if they did that, they wouldn't be able to include the White Queen at all.
@lalaicyling84296 жыл бұрын
What's the difference ?
@kirkbupkis5 жыл бұрын
@@lalaicyling8429 "I pictured to myself the Queen of Hearts as a sort of embodiment of ungovernable passion - a blind and aimless Fury The Red Queen I pictured as a Fury, but of another type; her passion must be cold and calm - she must be formal and strict, yet not unkindly; pedantic to the 10th degree, the concentrated essence of all governesses" Lewis Carrol A shorter answer would be the Queen of Hearts is from Alice in Wonderland whereas the Red Queen is from the second book Through The Looking Glass.
@melissacooper44825 жыл бұрын
Although in the Disney film she is called The Queen of Hearts. But some of her diologe was from the Red Queen from The Looking Glass.
@Tadicuslegion788 жыл бұрын
Talk about a film that is still one of my all time favorites and a book that's held up so well for over 150 years
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
+Tadicuslegion78 Yep, real happy this came out today. Love the film and the book.
@PKMN378 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Bioshock R Amen.
@dseray94944 жыл бұрын
151 When you wrote the comment 155 now Remind me to edit this in 2021 Edit: 156 Edit of the edit: 157
@haileybalmer97223 жыл бұрын
@@dseray9494 It's time!
@dseray94943 жыл бұрын
@@haileybalmer9722 156 now Someone remind me to update this in 2022
@livclark81544 жыл бұрын
One of the few books that hasn't been overshadowed by it's famous film adaptation.
@RoseWaltz8 жыл бұрын
I was always sad they left out the Duchess and the Baby and her poem. I remember in high school we were talking about poetry and I realized that the caterpillar's poem "How Doth the Little Crocodile" was a take on "How Doth the Little Busy Bee" and how excited I was to read the original, only to get bored because there was no crocodiles or fishes in the original.
@jenniferschillig37684 жыл бұрын
There was an extra layer of irony to the songs/poems in the book...most of them are parodies of instructive children's verses that taught kids how to be good little Victorians. The fact that these are parodied (often, in rather morbid ways--see the above "How Doth The Little Crocodile") emphasize that Alice is now in a world where Victorian order, tidiness and logic do NOT apply.
@RoseWaltz4 жыл бұрын
@@laveniahewes9208 that was exceptionally weird and i truly appreciate you sharing! thank you!
@Orion_TheyThem5 жыл бұрын
6:39, Alice Through the Looking Glass included that in their storyline. And I loved it. I also loved that they made Time an actual person.
@Xehanort104 жыл бұрын
There's even a line in Through The Looking Glass that makes clear it's all a dream. "Are you the dreamer or merely part of someone's dream?"
@MaxOakland2 ай бұрын
David Lynch heavily features that question in a lot of his work
@sirusbones3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you showed clips of the 1999 version. I know the Disney film is a classic, but that one is my favorite version, and it is by far the most faithful to the book.
@joinmarch768 жыл бұрын
In Disney's defense regarding the changes, there's only so many things they COULD do with just one film, and likely would have added more if they didn't run out of time. As for the sequel, Disney likely DID want to make another film, but since Alice didn't do too well in the 50's, the idea was scrapped. Side note, with the 50's box office bombing in mind, is it any surprise that they re-released it in the 60's and gained a much bigger following?
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
+joinmarch76 Funny how most of the Disney films that bombed generally come back really strong with a cult following. Not this one though, its not even a cult following, its just universally beloved. Funny thing, its pretty accurate, but there are more accurate versions. But none of them are as faithful to the spirit of the story, which is why I think its the best version.
@disneydork578 жыл бұрын
+joinmarch76 Not to meantion the things they added in are all from the squeal book anyways.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
disneydork57 Also true, I believe it was meant to be a mix of the two stories, but they just put in waaaay more of the first book.
@strawberrysoulforever83368 жыл бұрын
+joinmarch76 I wonder if the reason it got more popular was because the 60s and 70s were very colourful and flowery and all about peace and love? "Alice" is supposed to be trippy, no matter what you think of it, and I think the movie is pretty trippy, although having not done drugs, I don't know for sure. Still, I loved it as a kid (I was born in the mid-90s) and it was my sister's favourite Disney film for some time (mid-80s).
@joinmarch768 жыл бұрын
Hannah Shribman-Brown Probably; I suspect part of it's because the 60's were less uptight than the previous decade, allowing for a much more open-minded audience.
@thesisypheanjournal12714 жыл бұрын
Jabberwocky is the name of the POEM, not the CREATURE! "Beware the Jabberwock, my son!" "The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame...." "And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?"
@Pazuzu4All7 жыл бұрын
When I first read the book as a teenager, I assumed the part where Alice punts Bill out of the house's chimney was a joke about the Houses of Parliament's ability to pass laws.
@happyninja428 жыл бұрын
1:07 into video and I hear in Dom's voice "Bitch please". Thumbs up already. xD
@RossOriginals8 жыл бұрын
+happyninja42 More like 1:05
@emmared14267 жыл бұрын
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@MilkmanConspiracy7 жыл бұрын
One thing that struck me when I finally read the original book is how trollish everyone in the movie was. I swear, in the books everybody just seemed nuts, but in the movie it felt more like they were deliberately fucking with the girl they'd identified as the new kid.
@wraithgames8 жыл бұрын
The 1999 Hallmark version is my favorite :) I'm a huge fan of Jim Henson (especially Labyrinth, Dark Crystal, and The Storyteller) and Jim Henson's Creature Shop did the puppeteering on this one. They as well as those cheesy 90's miniseries events like "Merlin" and "10th Kingdom", (which is fitting because it was made by the people who made Merlin) and that one was in keeping with the sensibilities of both. At the time I also really liked the "Magic in the Mirror" series and "Halloweentown", so maybe I'm just a cornball ;)
@TheDaykotah7 жыл бұрын
In my childhood I made a point of reading all the books that had been made into the Disney films I so loved. Alice's Adventures In Wonderland and Through The Looking Glass were my favorite books over every other original story I read. Really worth a read to anyone who wants a refreshing bit of literature.
@benjaminwambeke94587 жыл бұрын
A lot of things like the duchess and the mock turtle were planned for the movie, but were cut for both time reasons and to make it flow better as a movie.
@benjaminwambeke94587 жыл бұрын
To me, it made sense to cut some of the characters and replace them with other characters from the sequels books who better fit the tone and "plot."
@qrowbranwen86985 жыл бұрын
You said something about a part of our brains recognizing dreams on some level and I have to contend with you here Dom. I have very vivid dreams to the point that even the most absurdly looney tunes things can happen in my dreams and my brain will 100% believe it. To the point I often wake up crying desperately because I fear for my life or I fall out of bed because I wasn't flying fast enough and my body jerked trying to go faster. My dreams, in particular my nightmares, are extremely exhausting because my brain believes they're completely, authentically real without question.
@guest04074 жыл бұрын
In the cartoon adaptation, the scene where the flowers ruthlessly turn against Alice horrified me as a child. (I was bullied viciously at that age by my schoolmates.) Even as a grown*** adult, seeing real-life daffodils and especially pansies provokes in me a visceral reaction of disgust bordering on malice. Thanks, Disney.
@MrsXanatrix8 жыл бұрын
What needs to be taken in account is that the film was heavily inspired by the Tenniel illustrations of the book (some of which you showed in the video). IIn these illustrations, the King and Queen, while still lookinh more like cards than their film counterparts are three dimensional characters as opposed to playing cards with heads and and feet like he rest of the card deck, so I wouldn't call this a change. Bill is also only portrayed as a lizard in the illustrations. In the book itself his species isn't made clear (as at that moment Alice is caught in the house and can't see what's happening outside). As for the scene with the Duchess, I am quite happy it was eft out as it was the most confusing, frightening and - frankly - weakest part of the book. I'm a little more sad that the Griffon and Mock Turtle had to go, but most of their jokes were based on the school system in 19th century Britain and would have been lost on modern children
@star3catcherSEQUEL7 жыл бұрын
+Anti-HyperLink What exactly is your point here? Yes MODERN children, once upon a time the 1950s was the modern day, and it was extremely different from the 19th century. Or do you think things just sort of pop into existence already considered old?
@rmsgrey6 жыл бұрын
+MrsXanatrix When Alice escapes the house: "she ran out of the house, and found quite a crowd of little animals and birds waiting outside. The poor little Lizard, Bill, was in the middle, being held up by two guinea-pigs, who were giving it something out of a bottle." which, at least in my book, makes it clear that he's a lizard, even if "she couldn't guess of what sort it was" when he was in the chimney.
@daddykarlmarx61832 жыл бұрын
You know to this day I'm probably one of the only people to only experience this as the live action film
@ajerqureshi64118 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes! I know what he should do next! Mary Poppins! Just imagine, he'd have to due a green screen routine for the penguin scene! He has to!
@treyolathecrayola24337 жыл бұрын
Through the looking glass is such a good book , personally it's my favorite
@lilmissannajo13715 жыл бұрын
I will say that this is a perfect example of when it's better to sacrifice adaptation accuracy for good storytelling
@LizzyLovesSatan3 жыл бұрын
I find the change away from the book's insistence that no one is actually executed in Wonderland to be so strange! It seems to have stuck so well in popular knowledge of the story that folks are being beheaded, but I think it's a pretty notable detail that that's not actually intended to be happening! Shifts the tone a bit, IMO :)
@andreworders73054 жыл бұрын
All of those small cats in Disney movies and cartoons look like they’re just color swaps of the same model
@MrNichtus8 жыл бұрын
What I found really frustrating was that, while I can tolerantly look at the cartoon and the book as subsequently separate entities, one borrowing liberally from multiple sources, I don't feel I can give that same window of grace to Burton's 2010 version. It very clearly sets itself up as a sort of pseudo-sequel. On the one hand, its usage of Tweedledee and Tweedledum and the mischievous Cheshire Cat both suggest it might be a sequel to the cartoon. On the other, its usage of the Knave of Hearts and the fact the caterpillar was not at that time a butterfly suggests it's more a sequel to the book. As it stands, it's a sequel to nothing and it's just a deeply frustrating film for anyone who actually gives a crap about the original book OR cartoon.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
+Mr. Nichtus Tell me about it, I get a headache just trying to think about stuff like that. I mean hell, why call it Alice in Wonderland? Its meant to be a sequel, but we already had a sequel, so I guess its the third sequel? And while Wonderland is never called that in the book's, it was certainly not called UNDERLAND! Where they came up with that confounds me so badly. Oh, and did they really have to make Alice a Tim Burton stock goth character with basically NO wonder? Or how about the part where everything is real? And the White Rabbit really came to her? God, that movie will drive any fan of the book or the 1951 animated film up a fucking wall.
@rmsgrey6 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Bioshock Rodriguez As a fan of the book, I really like the Tim Burton movies. but then, I guess I'm "No True Scotsman" in your book...
@jenniferschillig37684 жыл бұрын
It drives me up the wall when I see merchandise for sale on Etsy (pendants, bookmarks, etc.) that feature that quote: "Yes, you are mad. But I'll tell you a secret--all the best people are."...and attribute it to Lewis Carroll. That quote is perfectly fine, but it was NEVER IN THE BOOK, DAMMIT.
@joslynch49248 жыл бұрын
The Alice in Wonderland miniseries from 1999 is one of my favorite things. I would love to see a comparison of that!
@probablyajedirebelscum30855 жыл бұрын
The Duchess section was originally to be in the movie but Disney deemed it too confusing and a bit frightening so they opted not to keep it. There is some test animatics which exist on the special addition DVD.
@heleniporter64296 жыл бұрын
I think the book was actually asking itself a crisis of, "What the fuck am I doing with my life?" Legend has it, it still does to this day.
@aussieman30214 жыл бұрын
I was assuming you'd be comparing all the film adaptations to the book as well as this one, like the 1903 British silent film version, the 1933 Paramount version that caused Disney at one point to shelve his version, the 1966 BBC film version, the 1972 British film version that had Fiona Fullerton, the 1985 Warner Bros. version that was part of a 2-parter with Through the Looking Glass, Jan Svankmajer's 1988 stop-motion with live-action girl version, the 1988 Australian animated version, the 1995 GoodTimes Entertainment animated version and the 1999 Hallmark TV version that had Tina Majorino. Because there are several film adaptations of the book. And nope, I'm not counting Tim Burton's 2010 movie (which was also by Disney) among them because that was an unofficial sequel to the books, like what Steven Spielberg's Hook was to Peter Pan.
@CrimsonStudioz4 жыл бұрын
I love the duchess she's actually my favourite character
@Killer_Space_2726-GCP5 жыл бұрын
This is my all time favourite animated Disney movie, and playing that song at the end gave me such a blast of nostalgia.
@CreativaArtly6 жыл бұрын
This is one of my all time favorite Disney movies ever. I'd check it out from the local library all the time when I was younger.
@CalliopePony8 жыл бұрын
The best adaptation I've seen is the 1985 TV miniseries version. It adapts both books very faithfully, and it has a stellar cast.
@akiriith4 жыл бұрын
I watched this movie once as a kid, alone at night, and then never again. I was terrified of it. Sleeping Beauty or Snow White, sure thing. this madness? Nopenope. I might read the book though!
@PumkpinSpiceAvery2 жыл бұрын
It gave me such bad anxiety! I thought I was the only one, but I couldn't watch this movie. Even when I knew it was a dream and she was safe, I couldn't control how freaked out I was at the thought of her not finding her way home and having to live in Wonderland. Even though by that time I'd discovered 80s campy horror movies and thought they were funny. Wonderland is terrifying.
@matthewrosenkoetter63513 жыл бұрын
That moment your binge watching one of your favorite youtubers videos and just enjoying the in depth analysis of each episode. Keep up the great work Dominic!
@bearboi29516 жыл бұрын
The 1985 adaptation is easily my favorite. Always loved that little unicorn fellow and his cake.
@fullmetalmasify8 жыл бұрын
I did read the book when I was a kid and I found it to be an interesting read. Recently saw the Disney film 3 days ago actually and I did like it. Can't wait for the Dom Oscars version of it.
@ariellakahan-harth88318 жыл бұрын
The book is one of my all-time favorites and the film is my favorite Disney movie.
@sirrliv8 жыл бұрын
Nice episode on one of my favorite golden age Disney movies & one of my favorite classic books (and frankly one of the few books literature scholars deem a "classic" that I found the least bit readable). Personally, I love the interpretation that Charles Dodson, who was a reverend and a mathematics professor at Oxford at the time, wrote this book as a protest to what he perceived as the absurdity and nonsense of post-Euclidean mathematics, including what we today acknowledge as modern algebra, thereby placing him on my short list of "Historical Figures I'd Love To Have A Drink With" right alongside Theodore Roosevelt and Isambard Kingdom Brunel. Edit: It actually took me a minute or two to remember that the Disney version omitted the Duchess, the Grifon, and the Mock Turtle, perhaps a testament to how all of these parts felt to me like needless, unwanted, and frankly irritating padding, even by the book's whimsical standards.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
+sirrliv You don't say, I would totally kick back a few beers with Lewis Carol and Teddy Roosevelt, such fascinating people. And yeah, I love this film so much, its easily on my top 10 favorite Disney films list. I know its not 100% accurate, but those few omissions don't bother me at all.
@thegayghost8727 жыл бұрын
I love this movie to pieces.
@heatherg19494 жыл бұрын
I'd be interesting to hear him break down the Tim Burton Alice movies. From what I recall of both movies and both books, the first movie was really much of the plot of the second book, so the second movie was completely made up (basically). I mean they don't both need their own videos, but the Dom just does such a good job that I'd like to hear him talk a little about them
@DogDogGodFog3 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that the bit where Alice kicks that guy out of the house was a literal adaptation of the idiom 'kicking someone out of the house'
@Chiaratara20005 жыл бұрын
As a child I really liked another film adaptation, which is the one in colour you showed while talking about the duchess, maybe even better than the Disney one
@Emilystarchild76 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a Stardust lost in the adaptation.
@Grim_Sister5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: this and through the looking glass are peppered with accurate scientific theory and fact. Alice, for instance, remarks that milk from beyond the looking glass might disagree with her (a nod to what happens with matter and anti matter). There are other little bits, like the mushroom she ate was originally designed so the top makes one grow big and the bottom makes one shriek. There are also cute little physics theories in, like Alice grabbing a jar of jam and is afraid to drop it, fearing it might land one someone's head
@haileybalmer97223 жыл бұрын
This movie scared the crap out of me as a kid. Anything that involved travelling to a magical world where you couldn't get home again when you wanted to gave me extreme anxiety. Wizard of Oz set me off in a similar fashion. I feel so bad for all the aunties and babysitters who thought they were treating me to a fun movie and were instead turning me into a nervous wreck for the rest of the day.
@jaimeerindy45732 жыл бұрын
I just finished reading the 2 stories and in my GoodReads review I said the same exact thing you did! I called Alice more "motivated" in the film, and while in every story that would be a needed change, here it worked the other way around.... how very Wonderland of Alice to be the exception to that rule.
@Hum0ng0us Жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore every silent movie version of these books and Wizard of Oz. There's just something to them...
@Nootathotep8 жыл бұрын
Inception gets away with the "it was a dream" ending :P
@JenamDrag0n3 жыл бұрын
Nah, Inception's ending is "it /might/ still be a dream", but otherwise yes, that's an acceptable ending for that movie too.
@undeadladybug77235 жыл бұрын
Even as a kid, I think my general reaction to this movie was "what the heck is even going on?" rather than thinking it was actually good or bad. But I am so with you with being glad they left out that whole "titanaboa neck" thing. Ugh...
@katherinemorelle71156 жыл бұрын
The Alice books were some of my favourites as a child. Funnily enough, as an adult I came across a very adult retelling- using the same story (ish) in order to teach Alice a particular moral- not to judge people for their kinks and fetishes. Yeah. It was actually really interesting and well written, even if it was basically just a kinky Alice in wonderland porn story.
@theshunnedBandersnatch2 жыл бұрын
Where did you happen to come across this re-telling? 👀
@katherinemorelle71152 жыл бұрын
@@theshunnedBandersnatch the author’s name is Melinda DuChamp.
@theshunnedBandersnatch2 жыл бұрын
@@katherinemorelle7115 Thank you!
@TheJezebeI7 жыл бұрын
The two books are the reason that this is actually a Disney sequel I would've been interested in - there was so much left to do and show. :-)
@taranwanderer59148 жыл бұрын
Dom, Disney's remaking the Black Cauldron soon. Now's your chance! (please)
@shounenbat5104 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Dom do Chronicles of Prydain.
@frostfang17 жыл бұрын
I think her investment in the movie was a good choice. It made her a more interesting character than us just observing her "dream selfs" responses to things. That and they were combinding some bits of Through The Looking Glass, where she did seem a bit more invested and assertive. It also seemed to reflect that childhood apathy and perturbance that would arise here and there. I remember reading the sepernt bit in the book and going "oohhhhh!!!!" as it clicked into place why the bird accused her of it in the movie.
@vallraffs8 жыл бұрын
The Dom should do an episode on "the Godfather". Or "the Hogfather". Or "the Silence of the Lambs/Red Dragon". Or "Goodfellas". Y'know, one of the classics.
@sirrliv8 жыл бұрын
+Valter Östberg I partially agree; while I wouldn't subject any living soul to multiple full analytical viewings of both the Godfather movie & book (I'm sure he has some life beyond this show), I would love to see a series of episodes on the Terry Pratchett books compared to their film/miniseries adaptations. Having only seen "Going Postal" myself, I can say that that book, in my eyes at least, got some elements spot on while missing many more and adding its own spins on some parts that I felt wildly missed the point of the original book, the results being downright bizarre.
@mareeyarwood13327 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Jabberwock was actually meant to be included in the Disney movie. I had the Little Golden Book of the Disney Alice in Wonderland which included a page with a Jabberwock creature that wasn't a malicious, blood-thirsty monster but rather like some of the other characters such as the Dodo or the Mad Hatter. I just found this bit of text on Fandom powered by Wikia: "While the Jabberwock does not appear in the classic animated 1951 Disney movie, he was planned to, voiced by Stan Freberg. The scene was axed fairly late in the game. An illustration of his intended appearance does appear in a Little Golden Books storybook with record. His role seemed fairly non-antagonistic. He would have had eyes that burned, a stovepipe-like nose, orange hair and a third hand on the end of his tail. The Cheshire Cat recites the classic poem, when he first appears."
@beauferret54145 жыл бұрын
After Disney made so many forced Sequels to their films, it's a wonder that they never made a sequel to Alice in Wonderland, especially when there is literally a sequel book.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
WHOOT!!! I have always wanted to see Dom do Alice in Wonderland, and its my favorite version no less! YES YES YES!!!
@bethbarton11897 жыл бұрын
I would love the comparisons done for the other film versions. I loved the 1985 and 1999 TV movies the most and they seemed closest to the books too
@jamiebisson27528 жыл бұрын
As far as the addition of material from Through the Looking-Glass, my understanding is that "Alice in Wonderland" is officially the title from omnibus editions of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass.
@PKMNResearcherSkyler6 жыл бұрын
One interesting take on the story is the book _Splintered_ by A. G. Howard, it isn't really an adaptation, more of an inspired work, I do highly recommend it
@MichaelLeroi6 жыл бұрын
You should do the various adaptations of H.G Wells' The War of the Worlds. Lots to work with
@7OwlsWithALaptop5 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if you could cover the soviet adaptations (of both books), although it does seem highly unlikely to happen since I doubt that there is an english version.
@Teatime77718 жыл бұрын
I like the Disney version and the one with Whoopi as the Cheshire Cat
@MrKlausbaudelaire8 жыл бұрын
in case you're wondering, thats the 1999 BBC version :)
@magicamadeye6 жыл бұрын
Ergotth andor hallmark version if your in the US
@melissacooper44825 жыл бұрын
I know the Mock Turtle wasn't in the Disney film but in the BBC version Gene Wilder made an excellent Mock Turtle.
@Weretoons6 жыл бұрын
The Griffin and Mock Turtle were actually in the Disney version of Alice in Wonderland, but only in a jello commercial in 1956
@SkulShurtugalTCG3 жыл бұрын
As far as Disney adaptations goes, this is surprisingly faithful to the source material.
@GatorRay6 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for when you do Disney's live action version of Alice In Wonderland by Tim Burton followed by his take on Alice Through The Looking Glass.
@rogueknight27697 жыл бұрын
The version with Whoopi Goldberg and Martin Short has always been my favourite since I was a child. It followed the book very well and was very enjoyable.
@sarahmeredythmorgan26027 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for that Dom oscars
@DahliaKokoro7 жыл бұрын
The Dom, you overlooked something kind of important in judging this (I didn't catch it myself until I watched it as an adult), in the title screen it says that this is meant to be an adaptation of BOTH wonderland and looking glass. It explains some of the picking and choosing aspects from both (like how the movie Queen of Hearts is a mix of the book one and the Red Queen) and the omissions from the first book
@alisequerry24038 жыл бұрын
Love the review, so far Dom and Doug are May favourites on Channel Awesome
@shea07irl8 жыл бұрын
You should think about doing a Jaws lost in adaptation, as by god you'll never believe how much was left out entirely, an how drastically they changed motives and characters. But Its similar so whether its the In name only clause or not will be up to you. Cheers my beautiful host!
@shea07irl8 жыл бұрын
Jaws is definitely a masterpiece of film and was more accurate then most but they still left most of the finer details of the plot and some characters were not developed to what they were in the book. They are both some of my favorite films/books but I still think the film should be viewed with some distance from the novel.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
+Karl Karlos No kidding, I checked that book out of the library when I was younger, and it just wasn't that great. The ending, while actually possible in real life, is nowhere near as exciting as the movie, even if it can't really happen. That, and nothing can beat Robert Shaw as Quint the shark hunter.
@shea07irl8 жыл бұрын
I agree the film had the better ending, but i feel if Hooper had died like originally intended, it could have made Brody killing it even more epic as they were actually friends in the film.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
One Take Films Maybe, the relationship between the two in the book was... interesting for lack of a better word.
@shea07irl8 жыл бұрын
I think they nailed Brody's and Quints relationship, but as for Brody and Hoop, the less said there the better
@GPhoenix087 жыл бұрын
This all just made me recall I recently finished the book Heartless by Marissa Meyer, which is a sort of origin story to the Queen of Hearts. Pity it doesn't have an adaptation, I'd be curious to hear your opinion about it.
@terrasoars50067 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was a bad adaptation of the book but a great animated film on its own (Disney's version of the Chesire Cat is probably my favorite of all the Disney characters). There's a book that was published about 2 decades or more ago that showed the concept art for "Alice" (Disney had been planning a film version of the book since the late 1930s - so there was plenty of time for artists to render their reactions and ideas based on the two books). The drawings depict characters and situations like the Mock Turtle and the Gryphon. I don't know why they left such characters out while including the pleasant but ultimately pointless diversion of the poem "The Walrus & The Carpenter". Disney cut out a whole bed-building sequence in "Snow White" that had been painstakingly animated because he said it didn't advance the story - yet the "The Walrus & The Carpenter" stops Alice's progress through Wonderland cold. Odd (then again - it's an odd film).
@lifewithlee62988 жыл бұрын
I'm sooooo happy now, you made my day!
@nyxshadowhawk5 жыл бұрын
I insist that the only other stories that can get away with the "it was all a dream" ending are The Wizard of Oz and The Nutcracker, because the dream aspect is set up beforehand (e.g. Clara falls to sleep in the drawing room) and in both, the waking up resolves the story in a way that makes sense rather than being a copout.
@Anonomius07 жыл бұрын
I remember starting to read Alice in Wonderland at school, but then told by a teacher to stop reading it. I could be wrong but I think the reason was that she felt it was too long for someone my age.
@emppu10124 ай бұрын
Lol those glimpses from the 1999 movie were a serious blast from the past, I'd completely forgotten I watched that version as a kid way more than the Disney one
@urdnotstark82708 жыл бұрын
i didn't even know i wanted this but now I'm pumped to watch it!
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
+Urdnot Stark I soooo wanted this from the moment I saw, I think his James Bond review.
@urdnotstark82708 жыл бұрын
I really want Dom to do The Lost World jurassic park though
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
Urdnot Stark Ah yes, the bizarre retcon sequel made for the sake of making a sequel film, except Spielberg kinda didn't use it for the bases of the sequel movie. Strange story, but would make a rather interesting episode.
@urdnotstark82708 жыл бұрын
Tyler Bioshock R Without a doubt
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez8 жыл бұрын
Urdnot Stark I used to like the movie when I was younger, but looking back, its not really that great. Hell they cut out of my favorite part of the book, the camouflage chameleon Carnotaur, we had to wait for Jurassic World to get anything like that.
@lollypopp42406 жыл бұрын
fun fact, the scene where the baby turns into a pig was actually going to be in the 1950s movie, but Disney had trouble animating it properly sonit became a deleted scene
@jenniferschillig37684 жыл бұрын
It seems that most Alice in Wonderland adaptations mash up the two volumes, throwing in elements of Through the Looking Glass...probably because the Tweedles are too cool to leave out. (Oh, and FTR...the Jabberwocky was supposed to be in the movie, though not decapitated, and as a far more comic and benign figure. He showed up in the Little Golden Book.)
@psukebariah34353 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a Lost in Adaptation version for Mary Poppins.
@ElsieGlace838 жыл бұрын
I nearly lost it when I saw this, I've just recently started reading the book and already noticed a few differences between the film and book such as with Alice herself like you said Dom. Even though I've seen this I'm still going to continue reading the book cuz I do find it interesting but the lack of a plot is annoying me a bit but not enough to stop me. I look forward to the DomOscars with this~!
@featheredknight49017 жыл бұрын
This review inspired me to finally read the book Alice in wonderland! I'd seen the movies over time, primarily the 1999 version directed by Nick Willing and the book was quite lovely. Like you said, it just has something about it that compels you to keep reading. I don't think I've ever seen the Disney version of it however and I worry after seeing the 1999 version my expectations of it might flounder. But otherwise I loved your review! Keep up the good work :)
@curiouser-curiouser5 жыл бұрын
Slight nitpick (because I’ve read the book so many times that I have to use my thorough knowledge of it for something): The queen of hearts is never described as a playing card like the soldiers in the book. In the original illustrations by John Tenniel, she does look like the queen displayed on classic playing cards, but she is not a card herself.
@gracehaven54597 жыл бұрын
he should def. do Bambie, it's at leeeast on one of the top ten most fucked up books I've ever read!
@zesty_hawk69613 жыл бұрын
wait, is it way more fucked up than the movie
@hannalulu23507 жыл бұрын
I love your work Mr. The Dom :)
@Locomamonk8 жыл бұрын
your videos are always really well done, real quality work, man! I really enjoy these and I never miss one, I love the subjects you always choose as well
@MiaC2186 жыл бұрын
Hey The Dom, remember how you said that the wicked witch was that thing you were scared of that no one else seemed to be bothered by? Well, The Chesire Cat was my thing that I was scared of, and it kind of still is. In fact I didn't like Alice in Wonderland very much, most likely from the acid trip that it was. It was just so confusing to me, with the seemingly irrelevant, and jumping plot points.
@eileen90385 жыл бұрын
This was a scary movie for me. Then I went on the ride in Disneyland when I was, I think, 5 and then I was traumatized for a bit because of the flashing lights and the cat's smile.
@spawncampe9 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite books of all time, I agree with the hypnotic feel, I just feel like I'm in a dream myself while reading, weird, whacky but still pretty relaxing