Alicia's Keys vs. The Grandeur - VST Comparison

[@davideroda8032]

Nice play. To my hears The Grandeur wins. In the arpeggio the difference is obvious, and the coverage from bass to treble is far better than Alicia's Keys.

[@DopamineOverload]

I absolutely love your comparison videos. And I love that you're playing a $400 Casio digital piano, so superbly. It's all about the piano sample libraries or something like Pianoteq. Wonderful.

[@tomlewis4748]

What I've always loved about The Grandeur is that the timbre has a high soaring voice that is reminiscent of a female soprano. It sounds human. I'm a little surprised at how much better The Grandeur sounds here. The notes all sound like they belong together. They have a certain consistency that the other piano doesn't have. And they work well together-if you listen to a right hand chord or left hand chord, the notes fit with each other better. Alicia's Keys kind of sounds like it's all over the place, and the notes don't fit together with each other well. The notes sound like they're fighting with each other, yet in The Grandeur they seem to complement each other. This is reflected all the way through this video. But there's also a place where this really sticks out: At 3:20, listen carefully to the G sharp played repeatedly with the right hand. I believe this is 'River Flows In You', apparently in the key of A. it sounds really dull and almost muted compared to the other notes. There really seems to be no consistency between notes in Alicia's Keys. Then compare that to the same passage at about 4:30 on The Grandeur. The difference is stunning.

[@invivoprod]

You're totally wright, I work with the Grandeur piano 90% of time. If want somthing darker I use the pure piano. The high end in the grandeur are insane !

[@meermattmusic]

Thanks for posting, Jun Jung! I've been using Grandeur for about a year now, but I'm really liking the Alicia Keys after listening! Granduer's high register has such good clarity, but I love the richness of the middle register on the Alicia Keys :)

[@JunJung]

That's what I loved about Alicia's Keys. Middle notes are gorgeous, but the lows sometimes overpowers mid/high notes when playing pieces that's very dynamic.

[@iamnaudar]

My favorites are Alicia Keys, NOIRE and this one. But I don't know which one I prefer, they all sound really great. Do not forget that those piano VST give you the ability to get unbelievable great sounds for a lesser cost than a grand piano

[@LMDAFL]

Oui

[@vervetech9395]

Alicia keys is just no match for The Grandeur.

[@flecks_piano]

The low notes on the Grandeur just sound so dang right.

[@angelinamartinez3210]

The grandeur is much more detailed and balanced. Yet, Alicia keys has a very warm tone but the dynamic seems strange and when you hit chords it sounds it sounds a bit weird

[@prithviraj6529]

no baby. bass just sounds fat

[@NINedStark]

When i play bass chords on The Giant/Alicia Keys sounds weird and i cant hear nothing more, just the weird wonwonwonwonwonwon I dont know if is me playing too hard bass notes or the Libraries...

[@MrLawrence0071]

It's your speakers :-)

[@link4chunk522]

In the Moonlight Sonata you can hear that the Alicia's sounds kind of a bit muddy and the Grandeur is just super clean and detailed what you said :)

[@rodneylee4026]

Sounds like Alicia's has more detail, actually. Grandeur is much 'warmer', bass-ier.

[@tannentunes1042]

I have the Grandeur and have done a demo with Alicia’s Keys. More sound editing capabilities with the Grandeur, my vote Grandeur hands down.

[@jscjazz]

First of all very nice performance and thank you so much for making this comparison video. To me it seems like the Alicia Keys is a darker tonal sound and I agree with Angelina Martinez in the comments that it also seems to almost over compile itself with processing as the pianist gets stronger creating a bit of compression or artifacts. The Granduer is a brighter piano and seems to sound more natural when played stronger. In my opinion I think if I had to choose one of them to download I would go with The Grandeur because even if I wanted a darker sound I could eq it to sound more like the Alicia's Keys. It would be a lot harder to try and make the Alicia's Keys piano sound as clear as the Grandeur. (I listened to this using a pair of Mackie HR824 through a QSC TM30)

[@muamarhafidz570]

For Kiss the Rain, Alicia Keys heard closer to the original version of the song. Warmer and soft while Grandeur is bright and sharp.

[@allexfenty]

This is not truly a fair comparison as Alicia's Keys has reverb. If you applied reverb to Grandeur it would be a big change in sound.

[@nickminderman7380]

I literally went straight to the comments just to see if this was mentioned.

[@proverbalizer]

yeah, my thought on the first switch from Alicia's Keys to the Gradeur

[@proverbalizer]

but to be fair, when you load them up with default settings, Alicia's Keys is actually drier than the Grandeur, so he probably increased the reverb on A.C. and slightly overcompensated...but actually they sound very very similar

[@KadekRegen]

6:20 mannn I've been searching for the title of this song for years! Now I accidentally fund it! Thanks man!!!

[@simbaking6338]

Two solid piano vst for sure......They both awesome n have their own characteristics.....My preference after listening though....will have to give it to Alicia Keys...sounds more richer n warmer.

[@zeerak9225]

The grandeur makes me want cry in a corner while watching Scarlet heart.

[@enricoforzoni]

Complimenti! Eccellente dimostrazione che rivela non solo la grande sensibilità e bravura dell'esecutore, ma è anche un'ottima guida all'ascolto. La migliore che ho trovato su KZbin. I due pianoforti (straordinari nel rapporto qualità e prezzo) hanno un bellissimo suono. Dei due, se devo fare una scelta, preferisco: The Grandeur, ma trovo, comunque, che anche Alicia's Keys abbia un suono assai pregevole.

[@edcqwe9892]

You played really beautiful! The piano sounds amazing!

[@winterheat]

you probably have long noticed... Moonlight Sonata, the 4th measure, right hand, the 5th note, should be C sharp, and then E, G sharp, C sharp, D sharp, G sharp, C, D sharp

[@winterheat]

it seems you piano keys are easy to press down... can you tell us which piano it is?

[@Jomarjf]

Os timbres desses pianos são incríveis.

[@josemarques131]

Não são os timbres do piano. Ele está usando pianos virtuais no computador

[@Jomarjf]

@@josemarques131 Sim. Eu sei.

[@AlvaroALorite]

You might want to re-read Moonlights sonata 1st movement hahaha. Great video BTW

[@L77kim77l]

Which do _you_ like more in these examples, Jun Jung? - Thanks for posting, excelllent playing and recording quality

[@FunSketchMovies]

The grandeur! I have both instruments and the grandeur feels much more comfortable.

[@JunJung]

I find The Grandeur sound better to most pieces.

[@gilbertorochaoficial546]

N sou pianista, sou guitarrista, mas o timbre do alicia é mais soft e o grandeur mais áspero... Um é 5 gig, grandeur, o outro 13,5, alicia...acho os samples do alicia mais bonito... Mais se vc quer um som mais "aberto" q fure a mix o grandeur é melhor, o alicia é mais tímido, mais delicado rsrs

[@tgfranco]

Gilberto Rocha Já ouviu o piano Noire??

[@crsilvabz007]

@@tgfranco também Native instruments, Tiago? Qual é a pegada dele? Obrigado abs

[@Fornicras]

I tried a lot of Piano libraries, I am not a pro piano player but I think Grandeur is easily in top 3.

[@NKDpiano]

Only for slow and emotional songs. In faster songs it sucks hard. Believe me.

[@Fornicras]

That might be true because I only play slow pieces and it sounds great, never tried with fast pieces.

[@NKDpiano]

Don't ((:

[@ErnestoAvilez92]

Why do you say that? The Grandeur is great for fast songs.

[@francweber]

Grandeur sound more natural to me. Might be the reverb tho that is quite high on Alicia’s...

[@kurtwieting]

Grandeur hands down in my opinion.

[@prisapiano5331]

hello,. great playing,.. whats preset or setting in alicias keys,. ?

[@guitarrafidelaguilarmartin4045]

Grandeur es un piano con profundidad acustica y detalle en el color sonoro ademas los armónicos se destacan con mucha mayor naturalidad es el definitiva el mejor que he escuchado de su clase no dudo en adquirir esta libreria

[@christiannsumbu49]

The grandeur is the best!

[@SethDavisPiano]

Jun Jung: I think I need these things for my Casio: 1. USB cable 2. PC, like Windows 3. DAW, like "REAPER" 4. VSTi, like "Keyscape" or "Grandeur" I only need "Kontakt" if my VSTi needs a host, like "Grandeur".But "Keyscape" does not need a host, I think. An audio interface is primarily for latency, right? Do you have any latency problems since you do not use an audio interface and directly plug your USB into your PC? I would like to not buy an audio interface if you are able to record MIDI with just a USB. Thank you so much for your time. ;-)

[@JunJung]

Audio interface is not required. So far, I've been using and recording through Kontakt and I had no latency issue via USB, and I use Logic Pro for recording.

[@SethDavisPiano]

Since my Casio CDP-130 takes a USB cable and not MIDI cables and an audio interface/mixer, which increases sound quality takes MIDI cables; is there such a thing as an audio interface/mixer that uses USB instead? Or should I just not use an audio interface? Will the headphones sound like MIDI when I am recording or audio sound if this is the case? Thanks :)

[@alvaromoralesmrecords]

I prefer The Grandeur.

[@mr.shelton9632]

It was amazing, thank you so much

[@wiggygfe]

I have both and prefer the grandeur

[@SethDavisPiano]

If Grandeur needs a host like Kontakt to be able to use it, I was wondering if Kontakt comes with any piano VSTis already installed when purchased. And since "Keyscape" can run without a host, I was wondering if anyone had any advice whether spending the money on Kontakt and Grandeur would be better or worse than just buying Keyscape without a host.

[@ETallant86]

I believe it does not come with any real piano vsts. If you are going to buy kontakt I highly recommend saving up for komplete 11. It comes with the grandeur and 2 other spectacular vsts for kontakt as well as a ton of other great kontakt instruments. Plus you get quite a lot of other vsts. It's a great package deal....I started with komplete 10 and now I own komplete 11 ultimate and would never give it up. Also, grandeur is my go to piano vst, but I've never used keyscape. I know spectrasonics makes great products (I love trillian and omnisphere) and also Arturia has pianos in their v5 collection but I haven't used them yet

[@SethDavisPiano]

Thanks Erick for the info! I know...Komplete 11 is so expensive. :)

[@ETallant86]

It is, but keyscape is expensive too at $379 and komplete is $599. Musicians friend often has 15% discounts on both though

[@maksklinec]

Pirate it

[@jamiebales8394]

Maks and Frankiks. AKA Dumb and Dumber.

[@joaonuno439]

All, take a look to HAMMERSMITH GRAND where you will be able to choose between the 6 mics positions close, mid distance, far away in deccatree and musician position...and which mic (Neummann, Schoeps, AKG) to use AND EQ each mic! Its 30000 Samples on 21 velocity layers, string simpathetic ressonance, 52Gb for a single plugin Steinway Model D piano! And the convolution reverbs are dense come with filters included and are amazing! Comes with compressor and final EQ, stereo image, keys velocity curve control and so on...at an affordable cost! I prefer the Hammersmith Grand over the most recent one (Pro), but by contacting the SONICCOUTURE Company its possible to switch between both versions I think, just check with them first! On the older version IMHO one can do so much more...It was sampled at Mark Knopfler Studio in the UK, and sound is Absolutely amazing! I am really grateful to SONICCOUTURE for this amazing piece of Excellent Work!

[@SethDavisPiano]

Jun Jung: I have a question. I have the same piano as in this video and mine does not use MIDI cables. It uses a USB cable instead. Would using a USB cable to connect to my computer's VSTi software work for MIDI? Thanks and have a great day! =) P.S. Love Yiruma's music!!! Great job!!!

[@JunJung]

Yeap. Connect your piano and computer via USB then use VSTi software to playback the sound. I use Kontakt for VSTi and Logic Pro for recording. Hope this helped, let me know if you have any other questions.

[@SethDavisPiano]

Okey-dokey! Thanks.

[@SethDavisPiano]

I don't know if you have used the vsti: "Addictive Keys". If you have, do you think it's any good? If you haven't... oh well! =) Have a great day... or night.

[@SethDavisPiano]

Jun Jung: what is "Kontakt" for?

[@bencasey7023]

kontakt is a kind of player for VSTi. some VST dont need kontakt to play, some have to. logic pro is a DAW software.. cmiiw

[@jeronimojunqueira5431]

Nice sound. Can you explain how you recorded ?

[@foodtruckproductions.3000]

Grandeur is awesome i play it live and fits more styles than Alicia Keys, i use Yamaha cp4 for controller, i use the vst because the dynamics are best =/ i know is a sin not use the cp4 pianos, they sound very awesome but my fingers and ears try to find the dynamics that i need, i use this in ableton live with a pad, mainstage consume to much cpu so is better in live, right now im very happy with the Grandeur

[@PHianista]

Hi, May I know your settings in alicias keys for kiss the rain?

[@JoelLuther]

Like you lighting setting..just goes good with the music

[@jonathandossantossilva2683]

The Noire pianos is the king of pianos vst

[@LMDAFL]

no

[@iamnaudar]

@@LMDAFL Tu préfères lequel alors ?

[@LMDAFL]

@@iamnaudar moi entre Alicia et grandeur c'est grandeur mais celui que je préfère c'est addictive keys (studio grand)

[@iamnaudar]

@@LMDAFL Jamais testé celui d'addictive keys ni pianoteq ^^ Après c'est juste une question de goût, tous ces vsts restent excellents, faut pas oublier qu'on a en général pas trop l'occasion de mettre la main sur de tels instruments...

[@LMDAFL]

@@iamnaudar oui

[@SethDavisPiano]

If I record USB MIDI data through a VSTi into my PC, where will I hear the sound? From the piano's speakers or the computer's speakers?

[@JunJung]

You should be able to, and you will hear from both speakers. Piano plays one with built in, computer plays one with processed through VST, I just mute the piano one.

[@ZapR21]

Seth Davis A USB-MIDI Keyboard doesn't have its own speakers as far as I know. If they have, you can select in the configuration settings.

[@SethDavisPiano]

Thanks Jun!

[@SethDavisPiano]

I have a "Windows/Dell" laptop. Do I need a special driver in order to plug my USB from my Casio to my laptop in order to record MIDI?

[@JunJung]

In my knowledge, you do not need special driver for MIDI recording other than recording software itself.

[@juniorji6029]

Try Any Digital Audio Workstation.

[@CalebHawbaker]

When playing the two back and forth it almost kinda sounds like the Alicia keys sounds like a electric piano

[@SethDavisPiano]

Do anyone happen to know if "Kontakt" has like, a refund policy when a computer crashes or dies? Meaning, should my PC crash or die, would I have to pay for "Kontakt" again, or would "Native Instruments" give the software to me for free as reimbursement? Or could I upload "Komplete 11/Kontakt" into a thumb drive? Thanks.

[@MIRAOfficial1]

Seth Davis Contact NI

[@prithviraj6529]

yeah man heres te legit link to them www.native-instruments.com/en/company/contact-ni/

[@musicmakesyoustrong]

Seth Davis You have all your purchases collected in Native access. You can use it from any computer when you log in with your user name and password. So once you've paid for your item you can easily access it on different computers. I just changed computer and it worked flawlessly through Native Access. You download Native Access from Native Instrument's website. Hope this helped :)

[@icantfindit008]

i dont play piano.. my wife is a concert pianist... but she has never owned a digital piano..im thinking of getting a yamaha clp 685 for home use.. does VSTs have a better sound than the native yamaha clp 685 sound? and can you hook up laptop/vst to this model?

[@musicmakesyoustrong]

icantfindit008 I think the Grandeur (which is sampled from a Steinway D) or Alicia's both beat Yamaha's built in samples every day of the week. Yamahas samples from the CFX in clp 685 (and other clp models) are quite flat especially when it comes to the base, they lack the real warm depth. Also they don't sound as "close" as these VST's do, The Grandeur and Alicia's sound like you're literally standing right next to them, it's amazing. If I were you I would go for a cheaper CLP model and spend the saved money on a good VST instead. That's what I've done at least. And yes you hook it up to your computer, the sound will come out from your speakers connected to the computer. Hope this helped.

[@4vrceltic]

Get her the Roland LX17! Fantastic digital piano!!!!

[@DJTurG]

hey, I recently bought the cdp-130, and i have the casio sustain pedal. do you prefer to keep use it or replace it with real piano looking pedal? is there any differences? thanks.

[@JunJung]

So, you have the plastic box pedal? I replaced it because it just didn't feel right. For $15 or so, you can grab really good ones! I have M-Audio one (amzn.to/2CXVjOR), but there are cheaper versions.

[@DJTurG]

Thanks!

[@SethDavisPiano]

Can a free VSTi piano plug-in run just on a DAW like "Reaper" without using a host like "Kontakt" which is really expensive? Thanks

[@mr.enderstryx9134]

Seth Davis you can get kontakt 5 player for free

[@shamanbeartwo3819]

Try Neo Piano One which is a free piano plugin. No need for a sampler like Kontakt. And I have used it in Reaper for a long time.

[@foxdfive1]

That Grandeur sounds like Tori Amos's Bosendorfer. I got to get it

[@SethDavisPiano]

I have a "Casio CDP-130" digital piano. What equipment do I need to use a VST? Thanks. :)

[@NKDpiano]

You'll need a midi cable, a pc/laptop, a vst (ofc), a DAW (digital audio workstation) to record the sound.

[@SethDavisPiano]

Thanks NKD! =D

[@NKDpiano]

((: I'm glad to help. If you have any question you can ask me. I will tell you what I can.

[@SethDavisPiano]

Do I need an audio interface too? You said I could ask... Haha. =)

[@NKDpiano]

Well you'll need an audio interface only if you intend to hear the VST sounds when you are playing. Otherwise you only need a midi cable to record the midi notes, and then use the vst to generate the sounds.

[@SethDavisPiano]

Jun Jung: You said you use "Kontakt". Apparently, "Komplete 11" comes with "Kontakt" and a bunch of piano VSTis including "Grandeur". Mayhaps you wanna check that out. I think it might be cheaper to just buy the "Komplete" since "Kontakt" is included with the purchase. =)

[@dgsviolin]

are you just using the basic default patches for these demos? or have you done any extra eq/compression to the sound, either in the vst engine itself or in your DAW?

[@JunJung]

I'm using the basic preset that came with the VST. In this case, concert hall preset.

[@JunJung]

I'm using the default "concert" preset on Kontakt

[@michaelkaercher]

When i see that video I think that Alicias Keys is a wonderful piano sound and may be even better then the Grandeur. However, I own both libraries. And for on time I turn on Alicias Keys, I use 4 times the Grandeur. The Grandeur adapt to just every music style where Alicias Keys is way to warm for that. Dont get me wrong. I love both of them but while the Grandeur is my go - to piano, Alicia is for certain pieces just better. Isn't it nice to live in our times where you can just play on the most expensive pianos in the world for the price of a better kitchen chair.

[@AydenMorgan]

When I use the Alicia Keys piano my piano does not sound real at all!! It’s supa muddy. Any help ?

[@JunJung]

+Ayden Morgan Alicia Keys are quite muddy. It can be your headphone that has bass boosted, if not try to increase highs/air in advance option! I was quite happy with its built in “concert hall” effect

[@AydenMorgan]

Jun Jung - even through my KRK Monitors the piano just doesn’t sound very ‘real’

[@jamiebales8394]

KRK's are bass boosted a little. Also depends on what you're using as a controller.

[@musictutorjaygogoi]

In higher sample rate 192khz both alicia n grandeur sound good with different colour, grander have a vintage mid boost eq, while alicia has balanced warmy feel. I am using in scarlet 6i6 2nd interface but i need a better audio interface to sound like above video.

[@israelsprince]

It’s a mere matter of personal taste. For me I prefer Alicia’s Keys.

[@Ximares]

7:31 thought it was You from Higurashi at first xD

[@cemkorkmaz2124]

which program you changed the song of cdp 130 ?

[@Fortiser]

hey your playing is so good and i just got myself the grandeur can you tell me what is your setting for the grandeur ;)

[@JunJung]

I used actual settings that NI showed with touch more on distance setting for more reverb or Hall effect.kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3vddnSDq8Srp5Y

[@Fortiser]

Jun Jung oh thanks i didn't know that NI has a youtube channel. btw subscribed bruh ;) 👍👍

[@JunJung]

Awesome, thank you!

[@EduardoPastorCampos]

Does it have any effect?

[@MiguelTicona]

what interface do you use?

[@bencasey7023]

Jun jung, ever tried piano in blue and ravenscroft 275?

[@JunJung]

I have not

[@russellandrady]

Alicias keys good at details but the sound is weird for me. Granduer has less details but the sound is amazing. Finally Granduer win for me🙂

[@SeraphKoppeR]

wich software did u use to sample and record? kontakt?

[@JunJung]

I used Logic Pro to record MIDI, and sample the midi to Kontakt

[@TheGinnielove]

Is it possible to hear a comparison with Hephaestus' Gran Coda for Kontakt?

[@JunJung]

Sorry! I don't think I'll be using Hephaestus anytime soon :( Though, There may be another comparison video for The Vintage D and The Giant from Galaxy!

[@timoteiirimia571]

what daw you used ?

[@TheGreatWesternTrendkill]

alicia magic once again while the other one has a balanced sound which you can't flame. but it's all about character for me

[@BLAZE45]

were they processed after? or dry with only their built in fx?

[@JunJung]

This was when I wasn't fully experienced with The Grandeur. Alicia's Keys were used with built in reverb FX, The Grandeur was dry.

[@BLAZE45]

I see. I can never get my pianos to sound clear it always sounds muffled.

[@Goldies24]

@@BLAZE45 Me too. You hear these pristine, full sounds in Yt videos then on my system sounds like an AM radio with too much reverb. Have you figured it out ?

[@BLAZE45]

@@Goldies24 I have not and it's extremely annoying. I don't even use pianos in any of my tracks because of this.

[@moffatbanda6001]

should have added addictive keys, but it depends on the setting desired and for what purpose

[@AryanThePianist]

True

[@AryanThePianist]

Addictive keys so far , is the best piano plugin

[@MrC77]

What I dont like about Addictive Keys is how the keys always make a sound no matter how you slow you play.

[@TheGreatWesternTrendkill]

man her uterus can spawn some GREAT stuff

[@neilslade]

I have both- the Grandeur blows Alicia Keys away, because Alicia Keys has a virtually nothing user interface. I have learned the KZbin video comparisons are virtually worthless- you've got to have these in your hands. In this demo- the reverb is completely different for the two pianos, and makes the Key's piano sound better, where it clearly is not when you've got them at your fingers and opened up in Kontakt. I would NEVER use the Keys piano, it's relatively horrible.

[@eylam9690]

I got the Grandeur, and I find it too bright in the high notes and not detailed enough (kinda muddy even in the lows). Alicia's keys is much warmer in the highs and defined in the lows in my opinion. Shame for that bright fuchsia bottle in the background...

[@illicitgraphics1]

Now I can't unsee it!

[@hcmusic101]

It's ridiculous to try to judge which one is the "best"...They are all great for certain applications. It's best to own multiple VST's so that you can choose the one that sounds best for a particular project.

[@JunJung]

You're right! This video was geared towards to see which one best suited for you.

[@maximegandolfo2253]

@@JunJung To play classical morden piano scores like Yann Tiersen or Ludovico Einaudi I think The Grandeur is more appropriated

[@thehashslingingslasher7017]

how can i record alicias keys with kontakt 5 player?

[@JunJung]

I use Logic Pro to record.

[@thehashslingingslasher7017]

Jun Jung is it for free or are there other possibilties?

[@Tcho2100]

TheHashSlingingSlasher its 199$ on apple store, but saw it way cheaper on amazon

[@ugurpolat9963]

Hi did you use digital pianos speakers while playing it over vst. if you did could you tell me how?

[@berna4535]

How do you record the vst??

[@JunJung]

VST is a software, like Native Instruments, Galaxy, Chocolate Audio, those who sells the piano sound. You recording your play using MIDI then play it back on VST.

[@mason7031]

I don't quite like Alicia's Key because of its uniqueness, I mean like it's way too one-of-a-kind, everyone easily knows that you used Alicia's Keys in your song by listening to some specific notes, which is sorta disconcerning...

[@raphexe]

maybe some people that are into music production might be able to tell what plugin you used, but you don't make music for them do you ? most people don't know what a plugin is lol.

[@avc7137]

what piano used?

[@JunJung]

It's Casio CDP-130

[@tauhidrochiman198]

casio 130?? am i right?

[@JunJung]

Yeap, I'm using Casio CDP-130

[@mike-pd4tq]

Did you use any preset ,or change any settings , or is it stock ?

[@JunJung]

It's kind of unfair comparison because Alicia's Keys used concert preset where as The Grandeur is pure stock.

[@musicmakesyoustrong]

Jun Jung Hi Jun! What do you mean with "pure stock". I hear a distinct difference between The Grandeur and Alicia's but I can't point to what exactly it is. Is there a reverb on Alicia's? It just sounds so much..hmm more rich and full? I've bought the Grandeur and now I'm starting to regret it. Any help is much appriciated! 😃 Thanks for the video and have a great day!

[@JunJung]

Amanda N.K Built in concert reverb were used on Alicia's Keys, but there were no reverbs on The Grandeur

[@musicmakesyoustrong]

Jun Jung I see! Thank you very much! 🙏🏼 I don't think I have a concert reverb built in the Grandeur program. Last question (sorry): Is the reverb from an external program or was it included when you bought Alicia's? 😊

[@merapi2443]

Grandeur

[@criqdekuyper9259]

Lousy comparison. No reverb on Grandeur. Unfair...

[@joschpz4715]

if you people want a very realistic piano vst go head try imperfect samples.

[@ryevick]

Drop both and get Noire.

[@ПётрСолнцев-ъ8к]

speed 1.5

[@fibbledrip437]

its also not kinda fair as the alicia's Keys has reverb on the first song and the other almost doesnt, giving it a more dry feel even tho this doesnt have to be the case

[@tomlewis4748]

Jun says he used the standard settings for both.

[@cristopherlopezsonido]

grandeur wins with and half pedal.

[@Ramin_Ahmadi]

nice

[@JunJung]

Thanks!

[@susannarose3574]

Alicas keys is the best sounding piano EVER

[@mr.scottpowell]

Somewhere in the octave above middle C, Grandeur doesn't sound as realistic as Alicia's Keys. It sounds brighter, but less like a real piano. You really notice it in Summer, when the right hand comes in with the melody.

[@JorgeZolis]

alicia keys en definitiva mas poderoso tal ves sea por que tiene mas sustain que graundeur tendria que ver los parametros de equalizacion

[@leonardomora4733]

Here's the veridic after more then three years ... If the arrangement is solo piano or with a lead vocal, I would choose "The Grandeur" over Alicia's Keys... But in the majority of arrangements with more instruments, including a pop, ballad, jazz, etc song, it "mix" or "Glue" better the piano by "Alicia's Keys" even do you can use "The Grandeur" and cut the lower frequencies to avoid fighting with the bass (Especially if is a synth bass).

[@mh7711]

Nice!!! But at 03:02 there is a mistake, a differend chord missing, sounds wrong how you played that moment :) i dont know any notes or versions but it sounds not good in my ears. am i right?

[@grahamcmusic]

I think Alicia Keys and I don’t even like Alicia Keys all that much so the Grandeur must be pretty bad I reckon There are far better virtual pianos

[@nicolasarias4491]

love alicia's keys. y have the grandeur but not is more good. sorry but im speak spanish. congratulation for this video.

[@JunJung]

Thank you! As for Alicia's Keys, it was good for simple pieces like River Flows in You, but as I play more dynamic pieces with more low keys, I'm more fan of The Grandeur now.

[@nicolasarias4491]

Jun Jung thanks y search alicia's keys for use. this vst i like.

[@sounddesignsounddesign3945]

noire is better than all

[@UnknownKnower2]

Alicia's Keys wins hands down

[@davesmulders3931]

That'd be strange, winning at playing piano with your hands down.

[@marcel.kovacic]

@@davesmulders3931 i'm dead ahahahaha

[@gavelo6526]

I have the grandeur and it sounds nothing like this, My grandeur sounds like poop.

[@shamanbeartwo3819]

May I suggest either Valhalla or OrilRiver reverb on it and see what you think. Both are free plugins. The OrilRiver makes it sound like magic even on my old midi keyboard.

[@josemoreno5596]

alicia keys es hermoso

[@dmajorle6112]

I played real and electronic acousitc piano. Alicia sounds just like the real acoustic piano but sorry the grandeur sounds a bit too processed. Alicia.