PREDATOR-PREY ARMSRACE on a planet of COWS? - Project Apollo(Cattle Seedworld)

[@skeepodoop5197]

I should mention that crocodile-like predatory cattle would initially be warm blooded. But as seen in naked molerats some mammals can actually lose their ability to be fully endothermic. It's surprisingly not unreasonable for some cattle to loose their ability to regulate their body tempreture in warm climates, especially ones that are dry and devoid of resources (as ectothermy would allow them to go longer without food). I could really see the various burrowing "microfaunal" cattle species loosing their endothermy to cope to desert environments, only to spread out and take other niches after evolving in that way. They'd probably loose any hair and and leathery shrivelled skin like mole rats. Honestly the reptile niches could be filled by these weird naked mole-cattle, including supplanting crocodile niches in the process. The project "hamster's paradise" also did something similar with rattiles, however they notably evolved scales made of keratin which wouldn't necessarily always happen if mammals were to ever evolve into reptile niches, as evolution has no set path. Edit: Mammals have an annoying restriction in that if they are born with more or less than 7 neck vertebrae they have an extreme susceptibility to cancer, stillbirths and neuronal problems. But ectothermy/slow metabolisms weirdly solve these issues as seen in sloths and manatees. So speculative "naked mole cattle" could actually have longer or shorter necks than normal. Perhaps we could even get weird leathery snake-cattle?

[@happynihilist2573]

I remember hearing that crocodiles themselves actually evolved from a worm-blooded (I'm not shore It's true but it would make sense given their relatives)

[@frowner_and_co]

​@@happynihilist2573... no it wouldn't.

[@gtc239]

Or get this, evolve osteoderms the same as armadillo, they seem to evolve it cus of their slow metabolism and so had to rely on shell than running, even their giant sloth buddy had it as well.

[@gtc239]

​@@happynihilist2573It's actually clear as day when you look at their heart, it's four chambered which is unnecessary to evolve if their ancestor was ectothermic (heck monitor lizards still have 2 chamber even though they're active af), this suggests that yea croc did evolve from a somewhat warm blooded ancestor.

[@gtc239]

​@@frowner_and_coYes it would, why wouldn't it be? Endotherm and Ectotherm are just 2 sides of the metabolic spectrum, creatures that are warm blooded can evolve ectothermy, they're not locked to it, it's just metabolism.

[@MabusTiefsee]

If apolo is flat because of the lack of mountains, wind would become strong! Really strong! And that will also help the flyers. However it will also cause problems for others and for flyers

[@AIXMK1]

Imagine tumbleweed there (((((

[@DraconXCreations]

@@AIXMK1 oh dear god not the tumbleweeds

[@Skullguy-w7b]

😃😃😃

[@isaacgraff8288]

Here is a wrench to throw in. The locust evolve to be more carnivorous/parasitic jerks and now attack cattle. Basically they turn into hornets.

[@ManicMindTrick]

We need to put a stop to the locust!

[@falconsfeather6970]

@@ManicMindTrick I have an idea, thicker skinned cattle that can eat these locust pests, maybe?

[@ManicMindTrick]

@@falconsfeather6970 Yeah we gotta stop with the cuck cattle. Let's make em cowosaurus rex

[@johnwatters1496]

Or they could swarm cattle and even kill them

[@riohudson9612]

The idea of "Vulture cattle" sounds absolutely incredible. With flight fully achieved nearly every niche that was available to birds is now available to them. But with having thumb hooks, the possibility of developing quadruped body plans by re-deriving the thumb hooks into hooves basically opens the floodgate for pterosaur cattle (Ptero-cattle :D). With the scavenging niche opening up the fliers are bound to be the first to take advantage and may spark a separate arms race, where scavengers must evolve to become increasingly large and belligerent to effectively claim corpses from predators. This, like many other arms races, will likely be enough to bypass some or all of the limitations mammals have in flight gigantism compared to pterosaurs. Simply put: Giant, 40 foot winged, corpse-eating cow-dragons. edited for details left out.

[@ДАРТАНЬЯН-з2щ]

Non-flying 4 leg scavengers can also exist.

[@riohudson9612]

@@ДАРТАНЬЯН-з2щ True, but they're not gonna have an easy time with flying scavengers. In fact, that may even be a catalyst for the scavenger arms race I previously proposed that may produce Dracotaurs (my original name :D).

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

Oh no, the Black Bone Bovines are slowly circling grandma, omniously mooing... she must not have very long left...

[@AncientWildTV]

What kinds of physical adaptation you think these ptero-cattle develop to help them in their scavenging lifestyle? Would they have specialized beaks, or unique flight patterns?

[@riohudson9612]

@@AncientWildTV I imagine since they're mammals it would be something like hyenas, where they develop superbly muscled jaws and piercing teeth so that they can crush bone. For scavengers, it is paramount to be able to consume *every* part of an animal, or at least as many as can be allowed with adaptation. If you can eat the bones, you can eat everything else, too. Thus ensures maximum quantity consumption from every body

[@KKkacperro]

The long wait is finally over!

[@TheIntelligentElephant71133]

W

[@sgtguy2500]

babe wake up, new project apollo video dropped

[@remuslazar2033]

Bro, let her sleep, she was busy with me the whole night

[@aleksitjvladica.]

She would not wake up from the illiterate random KZbin comment nowhere!

[@survivalist-yeet9317]

Why are so many people being mean under this comment?

[@Fintsss]

I literally love when i see this on my recommended every few months it’s so cool

[@RasmusBerggren-uo6uu]

Let’s ask the real question. What do these cows taste like?

[@NateTheGreat-h2f]

Chicken

[@Littleford909]

I would say an interesting flavor of Beef Jerky.

[@Incetarum]

@@Littleford909 beef jerky that isnt jerky

[@magnolia1253]

The herbivores would likely taste most like regular beef, but extremely large or extremely small sizes can alter that. Smaller animals tend to be richer in flavor (rabbit, goat) while larger animals are more mild (bison). Physical activity can also change flavor, just compare the flavor profiles between deer and sheep. Carnivorous mammals tend to be less palatable to humans, with tighter muscle fibers and different amino acids present. The main factor in most tastey animals is metabolism, with low to medium metabolisms tasting the best (fish, to alligator, to chicken, to cow). If you want me to attempt a speculative flavor profile of all known clades, I can do that. But these generalizations should help

[@ДАРТАНЬЯН-з2щ]

​@@magnolia1253 DO IT LMAO

[@beckon1993]

babe wake up new cow lore just dropped

[@remuslazar2033]

Bro, let her sleep. She was busy with me

[@SirPigeon420]

@@remuslazar2033 that's vile bruh 💀💀💀💀💀

[@deadchannelagainaeeerrrrrr6047]

@remuslazar2033 ☠️

[@jonathonsayre4879]

@@remuslazar2033 devious as fuck

[@JammesJack-td6gv]

​@@remuslazar2033shut up ntr man

[@SpecEvoGuy]

Names for these predators (I don't know if the Tyrannotaurid with mane counts but I'll name it anyway): 6:30 Leontotaurus ("Lion bull"). 8:19 Velocibovis ("Swift oxen"). Names for the deer cow and the hedgehog cow: 9:48 Cervibovis ("Deer oxen") 11:00 Acanthobus ("Prickly oxen")

[@johnwatters1496]

Yes

[@littlewolfpaws3539]

For the swift oxen I thought chow but that's better

[@Samanimates292]

*Sees new Apollo video* Thought process: “WOWOWOWOWOW NEW APOLLO WOW” *Blood pressure rises extremely due to pure excitement*

[@leonardogammer54]

*dies*

[@Orthosaur7532]

*fossilizes*

[@dracodracarys2339]

*gets prescribed amlodipine*

[@Samanimates292]

@@dracodracarys2339 *Correction: Fossil is prescribed. They fossilized.*

[@Glinglemcflingle]

Gets falsely identified and dated due to dying of cringe

[@ryancoxart]

Glad to have this series back!

[@That_OneRandomGuy]

Hmmmm, why do you look familiar????

[@ryancoxart]

@@That_OneRandomGuy I think you have me confused with someone else 👀 🤫

[@AureliusMedusai]

hell yeah new cow lore

[@ItsYaBoi418]

The cheetah-like cow could be Acinotaurus, literally meaning “immovable cow”. This seems like a strange choice at first, but the scientific name for cheetahs is Acinonyx, meaning something to the effect of “immovable claw”, referring to the fact that cheetahs’ claws are not retractable. The idea of naming cheetah-like animals after cheetahs comes from the American cheetah, scientific name Miracinonyx, which basically just means “wonderful cheetah”. As such, Acinotaurus would really mean something to the effect of “cheetah cow”, as the form of Latin/Greek we use for scientific names is sometimes not actual Latin/Greek.

[@Drakonslayer777]

Oh yes a new Project Apollo episode be a while since the last one KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!👍❤️

[@fionaredfern7519]

I have missed this very amazing series, and I'm happy to see it back. I have some name ideas for some of the revealled Apollo species concepts: 8:20 : Pantherotaurus (Panther Bull) 9:48 : Cervitaurus (Deer Bull) ? 11:00 : Echinotaurus (Prickly Cow)

[@kevaughnmerrill6534]

Would be very interested in the fantasy world building project. Love the dragon cow!

[@extremempsilvamps5851]

Finally, my favorite series on youtube

[@lordrobin3011]

keep at it man, your videos are absolutely incredible and so well thought out!

[@Pstalos102]

Happy to see you're back working on Apollo also thank you for picking my name suggestion (Dracotaurus) to be the name for the large flying cattle it means a lot to me. Can't wait to see what you cook up with next. 🔥🔥🔥

[@alexb859]

Awesome video!!! Also I subbed :) I also have a Protect idea, can you do project Enceladus? I got an idea on what to put on the planet and to eventually evolve into other thing, my project Idea was to warm the planet up a little bit so it could contain life, and put the African Savanna on it and watch it evolve on that moon :) List of plants to put on it: - Acacia Tree - Baobab Tree - a couple other random African Savanna Grass species - Water Plant Species List of Fauna to put on it: - Insects: Ants, Termites - Insectivores: Meerkats, Aardvarks, Warthogs - Grazzers: Gazelles, Zebras, Wildebeest - Predators: Cheetahs, African Wild Dogs, Hyenas - Browzers: Giraffes, Elephants - Savanna Fish Species Nieces to start off the moon: - The Insects: To eat the shortest of Grasses the Grazzers leave behind - The Insectivores: to help control the Insect population - The Grazzers: To Grazz the more nutritious Grsses and to migrate across the biome - The Predators: to help control the Populations of the Grazzers and Insectivores - The Browsers: To eat the leaves off trees, and are not targeted by the Predators thanks to their larger size - The Fish: eat insects that go into the water, and to eat water plants

[@Dracon-y2e]

Giraffes would likely get taller due to the low gravity of Enceladus.

[@MadlyMesozoic]

BABE WAKE UP NEW COW WORLD VIDEO

[@emporia143]

YIPPEE

[@Artificerplushiewithoutkids]

hello madly

[@RWDOWNPOUR]

Still waiting on orbit pagona

[@emporia143]

@@RWDOWNPOUR his next orbis pogona episode will be in the second or third week of august

[@Littleford909]

I knew the wait was worth it. Also I would love to see that high gravity seed world, that would be very intriguing. Possibly even an Ocean seed world, but whatever you do your community will support you. Also, if you continue with project Apollo I suggest if Cattle Gators become a thing they should be named something like ‘Trap Cow’ or ‘Thrashing Cow’ to emphasize their crocodilian nature. Well, I guess that raps it up I wish you luck in your KZbin Career.

[@grinninggreen6750]

These are so creative and fun! I can't wait to sit down and watch the whole thing. If you ever want to team up for some creature creations, I'm in!

[@tedralston9918]

I think you should do a video about the evolution of apollo’s diseases and parasites and how the cattle have evolved to deal with them. please keep making videos, this is one of my favorite channels.

[@CantSay-lk6np]

I love this concept

[@theomegazillagd]

Have been following this project since the first or second video, and i just wanna say keep up the good work and nice art! You deserve it, although I would have wished a bit more clades/species evolving in this video. But it was still as good as always! :)

[@BillfromIdaho]

Me two

[@Treyvek25]

i have an idea for an analog horror seeded world, backstory is that a world filled with a species of life (take your pick) lived there for a few years until a nuclear event caused certain amounts of radiation to cause changes to some creatures, and if you want to, you could make it a little grotesque to a point, or make it very uncanny, the rest is up to you, but i'd be glad to see the idea somewhere

[@rengenobta2857]

Thanks for the video! I always look forward to them :) and I really appreciate you taking into account the CC preferences!

[@theangrysuchomimus5163]

The cat-like carnivore could be named something like Tauroleo, meaning Bull cat

[@Cyrus_QWQ]

Finally updated, guy, you did a great job, keep updating!

[@Slapbattler666]

I shut realized how exited I am for this project please keep it up

[@Slapbattler666]

*just

[@yannismorris4772]

I stopped watching this 8 months ago so I've had a lot of catching up to do. I'm glad I came back

[@guyweekday3785]

This video showing up was such a highlight of my week

[@Ryanjrandolph]

Agilis ungula for the cheetah dude, the name means "agile hoof".

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

I wonder how sea creates would utilize the horns. Orcas are already utilize head butting for hunting, especially for larger pray. Then you have swordfish who literally cut their prey two. There are also narwhals who use their horns for sensing changes in the environment.

[@Mtioo1]

Important question, do the difrent cow variants taste differently? I could try to find out myself

[@Alien_Evolution]

I assume they all have a cow-like taste, but some would be tougher or have more fat, depending on their lifestyle and what they eat

[@Iwatch2019cartoonsobsessively]

8:26 Celerbubulus, “speedy beef” because that would be funny.

[@Inactivez4ck]

Can't wait for curious archive to see this

[@michaelpenkalski3287]

Wombats will often block up their burrows with their backsides which have a plate of cartilage and other tissues to deter predators. I could imagine some burrowing bovids evolving helmet like horns to block up their dens.

[@ArchosaurKing]

The "Torovenator" is my pick for the gracile running predator ^-^

[@PaleoGuy07]

I NEED TO SEE COW CROCODILE NOW !!!

[@isie1980]

I enjoyed the project apollo series I think my favorite species was one of the flying or predatory cattle

[@justaguyandadog2984]

My brothee in christ, you just made an andrewsarchus even scarier, nice vid

[@henryrodgers7386]

The scavenger/jackal ("minovulpes"?)at 7:03 and the "cheetah" at 8:20 are oddly cute and endearing, especially the little spotted scavenger. 10/10 would adopt one. Call him Biltong, cause he's one tough lil moo.

[@StarMaker8442]

8:20 i nominate the name Bovipard.

[@kuda9828]

I'm not sure if u made this video already but a going through the history of the geography of the planet would be interesting and give more context to the species

[@alexroy9912]

Nice to see a new Apollo video and I think the asterioides should be omnivorous akin to bears as they are not as efficient at hunters compere to minofelis so exploiting the the bear like niche witch would relieve some competition with minofelis. I could imagine these omnivorous asterioides Diet range depending on species (being generalist like black bears to almost carnivorous like polar bears) and whether or not if minofelis are in the region or not but could also be deadly kleptoparasitism using their size and forward facing horns to scared off most minofelis or smaller asterioides who don't want to be impaled. And I think the name for speedy minofelis should be called velocitaurus meaning swift bull.

[@AudioAtmosphere64]

I think a what if seedworld where Lemurs took the niche that humans did would be fun

[@elenabuteska369]

Yesss i love this series its so fun and creative

[@mildlymarvelous]

I was waiting for the vulture-like scavengers!!

[@MaddoxMcMicheaux]

I got a name for the new cow Acinonyx Taurus

[@lt4109]

love this series keep up the good work

[@isie1980]

I was wondering how many episodes do you plan to make for the series?

[@andersonrusnell3102]

In the time it took you to upload again, I created my own seed world project surrounding chickens and tuna.

[@primus6677]

Carnopterotaurus is basically a biologically plausible flying demon xd

[@nfgrova6434]

alright so boom essentially what happens is if there are no mountains that normally draft upward winds now go farther down towards the ground which could help some cattle like animals to evolve into sort of short distance fliers and the niches that could be filled regularly would be species that are specifically meant to survive in the extreme weather areas (also the small pursuit predator could be called lupus bos)

[@MitchMV]

Loved the video. I was thinking, what if at some point the massive terraforming system’s orbit destabilizes, possibly triggering a mass extinction along with possible geographical changes such as large crater fields?

[@TheBeesies]

8:20 This guy could be called celerivenator. Celeri = swift Venator = hunter Or just celervenator for fast hunter, if you like that better. Oh and the porcupine one could be called spinabovis for "spine cow". The weasel one could be called diuminima for "long tiny" (technically it should be dum minima and not diu, but diu sounds better).

[@OX_3102]

Thank goodness the wait is over! Bovisecutor would be an interesting name, it means "Cattle pursuer".

[@Jay-thetyrant]

i love this series

[@Kur0Kur0307]

would've make sense if the long neck cattle developed club like horns instead pointing forward..... Since giraffes has these horns they use as blunt clubs, imagine these beast cattle have these instead

[@SeaCheesez]

Velocitaurus perhaps? Speedy cow? Maybe Celeritaurus, which means the same thing?

[@SternaRegnixTube]

8:22 Peganixal

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

Evolution arm race are always interesting. I hope you collaborate with Madly Mesozoic later on. 👍

[@CarlosAlberto-nq3iv]

Wouldn’t the predatory cattle evolve camel like feet to minimize sound and possibly turn their hooves into claws that can not only latch on to prey but also be used for other activities?

[@matthiasasmr3100]

THE COW GODS HAVE BLESSED US!!!

[@kremstoin]

I love your world so much!

[@Fungal_Leech]

8:24 -- perhaps the runner could be called Dreomeotaurus, meaning 'runner bull'?

[@Rullstolsboken]

Maybe some turtle cattle would evolve, either thick back hide or maybe the horns becoming bigger and start covering the back, or maybe the hair on the back makes a keratin shell

[@cringledongo5709]

He’s back🎉

[@itzadarrc5235]

Welcome back

[@TEHDUKOFWISDOM]

We need duck cows

[@parallaxnick637]

How about keratofelis for the cheetah-cow? It loosely means "hoofed cat".

[@SpecEvoGuy]

It actually means "Horned cat", the correct one would have to be "Hoplofelis" or "Ungulifelis"

[@josiahtimothygo9818]

8:15 The predatory cheetah

[@natashadawe6051]

Cursorobos (meaning running bull) or velocitauros (quick bull)

[@LotBFOC2]

8:23 - Acinonybos inexpectata. In honour to: scientific name of cheetah - Acinonyx mixed with ,,bos" and 2nd part of sicentific name of another Felid similar to cheetah - Miracionyx inexpectata 9:49 - Antilobos oryx. It is in honour to be like antilope (shapes of body, horns) and common eland

[@chasingcheetahs5017]

I'd probably name the swift herbivores Velocibovids ("Swift Cattle") (type genus Velocibos or Velocibovus) and the fast carnivores Minoacinonyx (Modeled after Acinonyx and Miracinonyx)

[@johnwatters1496]

There should be a therizinosaurus like cow that evolved to be bipedal to slash their prey or a cow with anteater like claws and it would stay a quadruple but walk on its knuckles

[@adamusprime403]

I have a suggestion for the desert cattle, give them large wide horns that can help disperse heat from the body

[@mrfancygoat]

The Chosen One returns!

[@Griff69]

you forget that food depletion or food reduction(such as the cattle becoming smaller) for the large fast carnivores would mean they would have to inevitably become smaller to survive such a big change

[@twister871]

So here are my name suggestions: 6:30 leosimilis (lion similar) 8:19 vaccarapidus (swift cow) I tought not every name must have bos or tauros in them so these were my ideas

[@DarthJarJar25]

cant wait for the aquatic episode!

[@hoolioh3721]

8:30 Therotachybovus for this animal.

[@Gunter4life]

Name suggestions: 8:19 celeriungula (swift hooves)

[@One_step_above_is_here]

8:15 curretauri aka running cow. I know how original

[@Slapbattler666]

Yes I’ve been waiting for this

[@Flimchovec2]

I like how the water is just the caspian sea

[@Littlekoji-df1cf]

Your work has inspired me to start my own spec evo storie on YT called Vulpeinia, Fox world.

[@roemischer]

YES! he is back!

[@emporia143]

YIPPEE I WAITED MANY MONTHS FOR THIS

[@Slapbattler666]

Oh hi emporia

[@Slapbattler666]

I’ve seen your Mundus Talpas videos

[@emporia143]

@@Slapbattler666 yes I know

[@Carlos-bz5oo]

For flight, the creator of Hamster''s Paradise actually invisioned large flying mammals with a system of tendons to allow them not to expand their bones and thus remain lightweight. Also some mammals have trachea airsacs that in gorillas extend to the chest, so flying cattle could evolve airsacs

[@rowanmccracken5041]

I just had a thought that predatory cattle might eventually evolve padded hooves a bit like paws so they may walk more quietly and sneak up on their prey

[@Cornman_NW]

YEAAAAAH NEW PLANET APOLLO EPISODE!

[@CoryLance]

I believe Carnotaurus deserves an honorable mention here…

[@wendylacey2745]

So we will be seeing aquatic cows evolve even further to there watery environment in the next episode?

[@Sherrif_Frog]

I like how the planet is called Apollo probably as a reference to the cattle of Apollo/Helios, a herd of cattle the sun god kept

[@Incenpilz]

Okay, this might be a bit picky, but how did they evolve such teeth. I mean, cows don't have upper teeth, right? So my question is, how do they evolve in the first place? Especially because teeth are changing quite slow in evolutionary terms.

[@darth3911]

Evolutionary speaking of the cattle in the video would never happen. What would happen realistically is the cattle would specialize in eating different grasses and weeds, become smaller due to the lack of food, gain different fur and fur less species of cow. After all that carnivorous cattle would eventually start to appear. I do not think long necked cows similar to Giraffes would appear as it’d take to long to evolve with the scarce resources. (Remember Giraffes always had longish necks, they just gradually evolved to be longer and longer.) Additionally with there’d be little motive for any of the cattle to evolve into aquatic animals. (An idea mentioned in the video.) That’s something even less likely than Giraffe like cattle. Moving back to the carnivorous cattle which the video focused on it’d definitely take a long time but less than the other ideas thrown in the video. First the digestive system would need to evolve slightly to be more adapt to eating meat, this means omnivorous cattle would come first then slowly become solely carnivorous. Teeth evolution would have to happen around the time between the omnivorous and carnivorous evolutions. Even then I don’t think it’d be anything as extreme as shown in the video.

[@blessedowo1958]

Amazing video bro

[@Rodan727]

I really like the carnivorous cattle. They look cool and scary