Aliens - 4K UHD Blu-ray Review

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4 ай бұрын

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My review of the recently released 4K UDH Blu-ray of "Aliens." Enjoy!
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@warpathh
@warpathh 4 ай бұрын
I think the remaster looks incredible.
@jeffwestart
@jeffwestart 4 ай бұрын
totally agree buddy. I was blown away. constantly saying WOW! while I was watching it. If I want the softer grain packed version, I can go back and watch my Blu-ray but honestly I doubt I ever will. great review. Cant wait to see the Terminator in august.
@protiliusproductions
@protiliusproductions 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, i was blown away too.
@danielparker3842
@danielparker3842 4 ай бұрын
One of the first things I notice when I upgraded to 4K TV was the eye details. How they eyes shine, etc. I also think that Terminator 2 looked ultra fantastic in Ultra HD. Now with your review Aliens is on my list of must have 4k's. Thanks.
@cairnex4473
@cairnex4473 2 ай бұрын
If you liked T2 then I'm not the slightest bit surprised that you don't see the problem with Aliens. T2 was one of the worst 4K discs ever released. ALL the actors looked like T600's with rubber skin. It will be studied in film schools as the definitive example of how NOT to do DNR.
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 4 ай бұрын
The Special Edition I the only way to watch Aliens now, especially after Alien Isolation. To me, this movie is the greatest sci-fi and one of the Top 3 sequels ever made. The Godfather Part II and Terminator 2 are the other contenders. Sigourney Weaver shouldve won Best Actress. Thanks to James Cameron's writing and Sigourney Weavers acting, Ellen Ripley is one of the greatest, strongest, most iconic female characters ever put on film. I cant wait to buy this 4K.
@doyouluvit
@doyouluvit 4 ай бұрын
im dying to see it...just waiting for my copy to come.....
@flowersflix
@flowersflix 4 ай бұрын
The level of clarity is so great. Let me know what you think about it once it arrives!
@aurozappa305
@aurozappa305 4 ай бұрын
You will love it it looks fantastic
@zenquantum1246
@zenquantum1246 4 ай бұрын
The positive review is encouraging. I jumped on the Abyss pre-order (because I definitely wanted an upgrade from the 25-year-old-non-anamorphic DVD stretch-fest that I will now keep for pure nostalgia), but held off on Aliens & True Lies to see what the reviews were like. Sounds like Aliens is worth the upgrade, and I’ll hang onto my Spanish (bootleg?) release blu-Ray of True Lies
@robertcrews6206
@robertcrews6206 4 ай бұрын
I just received my copy in the mail and watched it last night, I thought it looked great. Yes it does appear that the film grain has been reduced. However I think it looks great in 4K, I have no problems with this 4K disc, I have a huge collection and yes some older films I have do have grain, and I don't mind if its not to heavy.. But I think this film looks really, really, great..
@PatrixRaider
@PatrixRaider 4 ай бұрын
I loved this 4k Blu Ray. I thought it looked great
@specialformula14
@specialformula14 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you 100%. This movie has never looked better. My fave
@2Timothy2.15
@2Timothy2.15 4 ай бұрын
I would have liked to hear more LFE, but Aliens is one of the best 4K upgrades I've seen so far (and I have over 400 x 4K titles). This is what the 4K format was made for -- clean, detailed and just enough grain to still feel filmic. Can't wait to get The Abyss 4K. If it ever comes back in stock ...
@grahamfrench2240
@grahamfrench2240 3 ай бұрын
It looked incredible. To me this what 4k should be. Absolutely looking forward to Terminator being released this year.
@flowersflix
@flowersflix 3 ай бұрын
Same!
@nigelikin7462
@nigelikin7462 3 ай бұрын
I'm with you on this, I love the removal of the grain, although in a lot of scenes there is very light layer of grain. I can never understand why some people love grainy films so much. It's so distracting and unnatural. I love a clean picture. This looks really good, I heard that AI was used to clean it up, if this is the future of film restoration, I'm all for it.
@kelownatechkid
@kelownatechkid 4 ай бұрын
The Abyss and Aliens are both absolutely stunning and clearly use a different technique or pipeline than True Lies. Neither of those have the weird AI face effect that I can see, and both are extremely clear and sharp unlike True Lies which is a smudge fest.
@jameslenaburg4378
@jameslenaburg4378 4 ай бұрын
Thought True Lies was excellent - as well as Aliens. Haven't watched my Abyss copy yet.
@ericj1385
@ericj1385 4 ай бұрын
​@@jameslenaburg4378..the Abyss is spectacular in 4k!
@jarg8
@jarg8 4 ай бұрын
Minus the motion smoothing frame stuttering when things are in motion. It's really great that they smeared a bunch of stuff all over the screen and got rid of that "pesky" film grain. Am I right!? Totally the same movie.... ...totally
@ShaneCurtis-ru1zc
@ShaneCurtis-ru1zc 3 ай бұрын
My fiance and I (she's even a more hardcore ALIENS fan than I am) loved the 4K UHD Special Edition... The detail is pristine.
@protiliusproductions
@protiliusproductions 4 ай бұрын
I can read the decals on the marine armour…. Ripley looked amazing… Everything was just perfect.
@ZZ21zx
@ZZ21zx 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great video. All the recent 4k releases including Aliens look amazing to me. I don’t think it ever looked this good in the past. It won’t look better in the many future years either. To me, much more details can be seen in the 4k release despite some small details possibly being lost because of the modern technology.
@dustindixon6628
@dustindixon6628 3 ай бұрын
Just found your channel, got a new sub!
@flowersflix
@flowersflix 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙌
@booya1970
@booya1970 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for this release...and The Abbys. Unfortunately here in Europe we have to wait until next month.
@MB-pc4cs
@MB-pc4cs 3 ай бұрын
I'm with you. I agree. It looks great. I picked it up today at Walmart up here in Canada. In store and on a side note BEST BUY sucks so so bad for movies especially in store. They suck so bad. I had no idea this movie was even releasing. I heard nothing about it, made a stop at Walmart this fine Saturday just to see if they by chance have anything good on Blu-ray or even better and rarer, 4k. I scoped out everything twice and on the second sweep, 2 copies of this. It didn't look "Alien" to me. I didn't recognize Ripley and Newt on the cover. Up here in Canada everything is printed in both English and French. I saw the small ALIENS logo written twice and I STILL didn't clue in "Woah... ALIENS I'm 4K..." I'm thinking "Aliens? what? A double feature? Is this like Alien 8 and 9? Which I am not interested in" Then I did the math that's Ripley and the kid from..... and wow, it's Aliens... That's a big for sure on 4k at $25. Exactly why I came in here. What surprised me was that it's a brand new release. Early March 2024. Walmart pulls through again (go figure). It was the same with Sleepy Hollow 4k. I expected a display at Best Buy on the day of release of that movie. It was as if it never happened. It never did end up happening either. 3 weeks later, venture into Walmart and there it is. I think it's an awesome set. 3 discs. The movie looks great IMO, I have the 2010 Blu-ray as well anyway but the special features in this set, if you don't already have them, are a plenty. I'd say they are almost worth the price alone.
@MB-pc4cs
@MB-pc4cs 3 ай бұрын
Girl at the cash "that movie looks... Interesting" Out loud I I go "It is... You've never seen Aliens before?!?" No.... I should have opened it on the spot and gave her the digital copy.
@adventuresinportland3032
@adventuresinportland3032 4 ай бұрын
Question. Is the 1080p version that comes in the box the new remaster just scaled down? Or is it the same blu-ray version from a decade ago. I don't yet have a 4k player but I'd be interested in watching this version at 1080p, and whenever I DO get a 4k player, then I'd have it.
@ughugh351
@ughugh351 4 ай бұрын
I think it's the new "remaster"
@RAZKEN.
@RAZKEN. 4 ай бұрын
I find it quite funny that dedicated fans can do amazing 4K transfers of what was once considered as lost media (Super Mario 86' Anime Movie & Project A-Ko movies), but multi billion dollar companies cannot... They just throw these beloved movies in Topaz Video AI and call it a day. It's just sad that we waited an eternity... for this? Not even a new scan but just an upscaled version that destroyed all fine details with it. I expected more. Like the Jurassic Park and Alien 79' transfers, which are stunning.
@giles852002
@giles852002 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you. Abyss looks great too
@kellywilliamson2187
@kellywilliamson2187 4 ай бұрын
I watched the original version so many times, when the special edition came out I wasn't real fond of all the additional scenes. Still hyped to make this a part of my collection!
@modestyblaise4167
@modestyblaise4167 4 ай бұрын
This is a film shot on 35mm from 1986. Film has grain. It’s not digital and it wasn’t shot in 2024 either. This is the core of the argument not from trolls or haters but fans who want films to be preserved, not altered. While some people like these changes, this release could have been a lot more positive if they’d included a DNR and a non-DNRed version. AI enhancing is a whole different conversation but needless to say, the movie studios would love to save money by completing moving to AI in order to feed the greedy executives. If allowed, nothing will be preserved.
@benpascall4297
@benpascall4297 4 ай бұрын
Again, another overly dramatic OTT comment. This isn't dnr in the same fashion of T2. Also, it's very much a Cameron thing (and perhaps a Lucas thing). I got the release of American Graffiti last year and the DNR was terrible. I immediately got rid of it on eBay. Titanic and the Abyss (haven't seen Aliens yet) to me look absolutely fine. I still have my Aliens blu ray and am looking forward to seeing a new interpretation of Aliens. The Abyss never had a blu ray release, so this 4k is a huge upgrade. Same for true Lies. I get the feeling some people just like to be glass half empty and have a moan. I could understand if these looked like T2... But they don't. They're still detailed, minus the grain. I love film grain, but having seen Titanic, Abyss and with True Lies and Aliens on order I know what to expect with the other two. I think most of the people complaining are just bandwagon jumping and don't actually have the discs.
@modestyblaise4167
@modestyblaise4167 4 ай бұрын
@@benpascall4297 You have your opinion which differs from mine. I’m a film lover and have been for over 40 years. I have only witnessed Aliens and True Lies which I prefer the Spanish Blu-ray, warts and all. Have you seen it? I also prefer Aliens on Blu-ray over this new release. Have you seen Alien on UHD disc? How would you compare it against this 4K Aliens disc? Different movies of course but two very different approaches. For me the issue is that artificial smoothening of facial textures makes actors look unnatural, grain reduction and other changes makes the film look less like a product of its time. Some people may be jumping on the bandwagon, others have waited years for these releases and genuinely disappointed by the results. I’d also argue that there are also some who are just defending their purchases or siding with so called KZbin influencers who seemed to have teamed up in defence of JC. Of course we’re all free to express our opinions however much they differ.
@gabbyjay68
@gabbyjay68 2 ай бұрын
I love the 4k transfer it looks awesome I like the lack of grain
@gorillapancake
@gorillapancake 4 ай бұрын
Others have reported with these new Cameron 4Ks that the stickers are damaging the slip covers. Did your sticker come off the slip cover without residue or damage?
@flowersflix
@flowersflix 4 ай бұрын
I haven’t tried to remove the sticker, and now I’m scared to. 😆
@gorillapancake
@gorillapancake 4 ай бұрын
​@@flowersflixThe front of your slip cover still has the sticker? I couldn't see it in the video.
@dancole6867
@dancole6867 4 ай бұрын
I took the sticker off true lies and it was difficult. I used alcohol to get the leftovers off. As my sticker was close to the edge, some of the coloring came off. After that, I didn’t try with abyss or aliens. It’s a shame because the cover is ruined by the presence of the sticker.
@jackburton2946
@jackburton2946 4 ай бұрын
Watched it yesterday and this transfer is all over the place. The film now look like TV episode. It is over Sharpened, it as smear, loss of detail in many medium shots. Many will love this transfer because that's how they want their films but am on the side of protecting films which were shot on film to look like film.
@user-sf9eh3if4l
@user-sf9eh3if4l 2 ай бұрын
It looks great. totally new and fresh experience ❤️
@Sdea1903
@Sdea1903 3 ай бұрын
I think it’s just a matter of taste. Personally, I think it looks absolutely amazing. 🤷‍♂️
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury 4 ай бұрын
I totally agree, think it looks awesome. There was this dude commenting on another review channel basically telling everyone who liked it and it looked great that they were wrong! Each to their own and there's a lot of Cameron haters out there sadly.
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury 4 ай бұрын
​​​​@@jarg8I stopped reading after your lack of punctuation dude. Take a breath, relax, calm down.😂Erase the original?? Conspiracy theories gone mad. Has Cameron insisted we all return our Blu-ray/ DVD /VHS versions upon purchasing this UHD disc? You don't know why the artists come back and re-release on 4k? Because people want it. Get over it, if you don't like it, don't buy it.
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury 4 ай бұрын
​​@@jarg8Nope, you're talking nonsense. The earth isn't flat by the way. If you don't like what James Cameron is doing, don't buy his 4K Discs. There is no conspiracy, some people believe it or not want to see their favourite movies look more modern. Would you like to see a 16mp favourite photo of a deceased relative or fond memories from your childhood?
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury 4 ай бұрын
​@@jarg8I don't care what you think, bye👋🏻
@4Kmichelinstarmovies
@4Kmichelinstarmovies 4 ай бұрын
well said it looks crisp detailed and the HDR grading is much better than the blu-ray and the Atmos soundtrack is great, Grain I can take it or leave it to be honest
@stephendevore9926
@stephendevore9926 4 ай бұрын
Aliens looks better than expected. I had it on the Blu-ray set. I can tell the difference because DNR was used to much on the 4k but with adjusting settings on the 4 player made up for that. Yes it's to polished. The Blu-ray in the set has the film grain still their The 4k polished the dirt as they say.Still a good Disc with great sound. What happens with to much DNR it removes the grain to much a changes the Grittyness. I'm watching both the 4k on my 55inch 4k TV and the Blu-ray in my bedroom to compare. So far it's good but different like Invasion of the DNR GRAIN snatchers😅.good Video 😎
@LEMON48
@LEMON48 4 ай бұрын
55 inch man ? thats why you won't notice those stupid masterings on this release , watch this on 83 '' oled a90j like mine and all 3 movies looks average and artificial !!!!!😫
@CoinOpTV
@CoinOpTV 4 ай бұрын
i suppose in April i’ll know for myself then May for Abyss haha dang delays
@jamesclow108
@jamesclow108 3 ай бұрын
I found the 4K remaster jaw droppingly detailed, I love it. I'm not a fan of grain myself, though I can see why some might prefer that aesthetic. I guess it's probably similar to how some people may prefer different colour grading. Now if someone could do something similar for Stargate SG-1!
@Capoeiraplaya22
@Capoeiraplaya22 4 ай бұрын
Ok - he removed some film grain & re-colored it : He didn’t DNR it to hell - its a very clean movie. I liked it 😎
@myzamau428
@myzamau428 4 ай бұрын
He removed a considerable amount of it, and he upscaled it using AI. Not only did he remove detail (grain), he then let a computer program guess what should be there and added fake detail that never existed. Didn't even bother to re-scan the original negative, either.
@georgewrage2942
@georgewrage2942 4 ай бұрын
I think Cameron wanted the 4K to look like a new movie. Look at the opening credits. Very crisp,not at all like 1986 graphics. Didn’t do the same work on the closing credits. They look like 1986.
@tedmetalhead6177
@tedmetalhead6177 4 ай бұрын
That's what I think is so awesome. Gone is the theory that movies from the 80's just aren't going to look as good as today's releases. It looks like it came out last year like Maverick or something.
@jarg8
@jarg8 4 ай бұрын
​​​​​@@tedmetalhead6177this would imply that a movie from decades ago can't still be beautiful to look at. Why are people so unable to appreciate a movie made in a specific time and place with the tools they had available? Do you not have any patience or ability to see beyond "HD = better"? Just absurd. Preservation of art is important and this literally erases so much of what made the movie what it was. The fact that they removed film grain suggests film grain isn't a part of a movie's look, feel, and era. Same with color grading, set detail, etc. You can like it all you want but why isn't there an original version available on the Blu ray? George Lucas 2.0 right here and you're not even about to notice the severity of this.
@tedmetalhead6177
@tedmetalhead6177 4 ай бұрын
@@jarg8 I appreciate older movies and I totally agree about a bluray. If this is something that actually happens quite a few times more then I would hope to have two different updated 4k options. And/or even include them, instead of blurays, in the 4k release. Especially since they're inches towards $40 for most releases. But I applaud James Cameron for this release. The look, feel, etc is definitely modern. It's 4k!! If that's how people or directors feel today you can't tell them they're wrong. I know the majority of people with 4k ability watch flicks way too bright but that's their prerogative. I think that's mainly how Samsung can still sell 4k TV's and not have Dolby Vision 😆 But that's also how 4k settings gives anyone the ability to watch movies any way they like to. So to come full circle, there should be some kind of release for cinephiles. Kinda like how we have vinyl records and CD's.
@jamesrobinson2086
@jamesrobinson2086 4 ай бұрын
1 significant error in the Spec Ed... when we move to LV-426 and the admins are talking about claims and rights being honored... that needs to be re-edited for placement because AFTER that discussion it cuts to the rover with Newts family discovering the ship and then talking.. revealing they haven't radioed admin @ base yet.. re-cut to: Rover traveling and discovering the derelict ship.. they state how they need to check in and confirm their claim.. Cut to admin control hub with supervisor asking about the claim being honored..full discussion Cut BACK to rover and the parents gearing up to go explore.. rest follows as normal .. Second issue.... Ripley asks Burk DIRECTLY "We're going to wipe them out, not to retrieve, not to exam?" Burk replies "That's the plan" Proves that Burk knows about the Aliens and the potential asset they can be.. Ripley should have seen thru him then and said "oh fuck no"
@dalekslookgood
@dalekslookgood 4 ай бұрын
Hi Thanks for the review. I watched the 4k DisneyPlus streaming version. It looked quite good. that was the theatrical version. I live in The Netherlands. The dutch release on 4k BD comes out at end of April (2024). I will pre-order it on 4k Bluray. No matter some DNR, it is my nr 1 favorite film ever and i just WANT TO OWN IT ON 4k UBD. Hope the dutch 4k release has the longer S.E. on it too.
@davidpenn9396
@davidpenn9396 4 ай бұрын
I am Big Alien Fan my question is would i like this version you are talking about?
@scotthajney4127
@scotthajney4127 4 ай бұрын
David, there are lots of folks, including me, who believe Aliens is better than Alien. You should give it a whirl
@mynock250
@mynock250 4 ай бұрын
It’s in comparison to prior Aliens blu rays, it’s bad. With that said it’s better than the DVD and a great movie.
@UnitedWeStandFreedom
@UnitedWeStandFreedom 18 күн бұрын
Yeah , we just picked this up have not had extra money in my pocket because of inflation but finally got this for 26 bucks ! It's awesome!! Blown away i should say so those complaining it's clear they just like complaining! Got twister also, outstanding!
@flowersflix
@flowersflix 18 күн бұрын
Nice! I really need to pick up Twister.
@TheOriginalFuzz
@TheOriginalFuzz 4 ай бұрын
Great review man. Just subbed. Aliens is my all-time favorite film, and I tend to agree with you here. I think it looks fantastic. Glad to see this video is getting some views for you.
@flowersflix
@flowersflix 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ps5andstuffhere
@ps5andstuffhere 4 ай бұрын
Aliens looks fine. True Lies pretty bad. Looks a bit better if turn off HDR on True Lies
@djwolfville290
@djwolfville290 4 ай бұрын
I thought Aliens looked really good. World's better then the Blu-ray. At the end of the day, it's Cameron's vision. It may not line up with what some people like, but he has the last say.
@adrianbaldwin8832
@adrianbaldwin8832 3 ай бұрын
I also love it. I think it looks great and the abyss both great films for me best they have aver looked 👌
@darrylbrian
@darrylbrian 4 ай бұрын
Great content as per usual Chris! Thanks for sharing. Would love to hear your thoughts on the first three Alien movies on a future video one day. I know I'm in the minority, but I actually love Alien 3 as much as the first two movies. I know I just lost a lot of credibility points but I'll continue to stand firmly behind it. Lol 😊
@darrylbrian
@darrylbrian 4 ай бұрын
I'd also love to hear your thoughts on Neve Campbell and Kevin Williamson coming back to the Scream franchise 😱
@flowersflix
@flowersflix 4 ай бұрын
This is a great idea for a video before Alien: Romulus releases! I do like Alien 3, but I don't hold it in the same regard as Alien and Aliens. I think it really got mangled in the editing/assembly process, but I appreciate its uniqueness a lot.
@flowersflix
@flowersflix 4 ай бұрын
@@darrylbrian Well, I hope they've got a killer (pun intended) script prepared. We'll find out soon! haha
@cruzgallegos5071
@cruzgallegos5071 4 ай бұрын
Visually Aliens 4K is amazing! The real problem is the complete absence of the LFE channel. So you get to see the movie, you get to hear the movie, you don't get to experience the movie.
@tjdw5251
@tjdw5251 4 ай бұрын
The hate is justified because the "transfer" looks atrocious. Badly AI Sharpened and Upscaled. Initially sure it looks good but once you actually look a bit closer then the whole thing falls apart and becomes clear how awful it actually looks. It is just the initial wow this looks sharp and then very quickly you see that it's horrible and fake. We want rescans and real remasters and restorations like Arrow, Second Sight and so many labels and studios do. Not an AI upscale of the old blu ray with fake HDR. This release may be passable but it could have actually been great and supporting this product and the use of AI is actually dangerous and damaging to the industry. If you actually think this somehow looks good then I dont know what to say to you. Just look at it again and you'll probably see it, I dont know how you wouldn't. Being quite familiar with AI upscaling and sharpening, it is clear as day from second one what it is and how bad it looks. To the more average person it may take a bit more time to see but soon this will be like the old Universal Blu-rays that where horrible and DNR'd to death and then sharpened, they got good reviews when they came out and now everyone looks back and shudders at how horrific and damaging they were. This will be the same, average people just dont know what looks right and wrong yet but they will.
@superg50zero32
@superg50zero32 4 ай бұрын
I pretty much had the same feeling, Aliens looks damn good in 4K and you're never going to get a better version in the future.
@TrevorDans
@TrevorDans 4 ай бұрын
As an Alien fan, I cannot disagree more regarding watching the Special edition over the Theatrical release. The extra scenes massively spoil the pace, and show us what we didn't need to be shown. This is Ripley's story, so whatever happens on LV426 before she arrives, should not be common knowledge to the audience. Not knowing adds to the dread, adds to the tension. And when the Colonial Marines first encounter the Xenomorph, it hits way harder. Theatrical >Special on first viewing. If you wanna watch the Special after the durst viewing, sure.
@lacrossed55
@lacrossed55 3 ай бұрын
I'm getting audio drop out on the SE (ATMOS)
@duncandonuts5268
@duncandonuts5268 Ай бұрын
I don't get the hate. Maybe it's because I haven't watched it a million times before, but I think this looked great. I hated what they did in Terminator 2, waxy skin and blue tint. This isn't that. I loved this.
@irish7460
@irish7460 4 ай бұрын
Wish I could get it down under.
@johnquinn8796
@johnquinn8796 4 ай бұрын
Now if i can only find them
@jameslenaburg4378
@jameslenaburg4378 4 ай бұрын
Loved it, thought it was excellent.
@robhartley3011
@robhartley3011 4 ай бұрын
I agree with you it looks fantastic, I just watched yesterday, I got my Abyss in the mail today I will check that out later..
@jamied1579
@jamied1579 3 ай бұрын
I've never been a big fan of film grain and I'll never, ever understand why people not only love it so much, but go into apoplectic fits over grain reduction, or removal. There are some 4ks with such high levels of grain and these people say it looks fantastic. I don't get it. Some people got death threats over giving Aliens a positive review... Madness
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 4 ай бұрын
To me Alien, Aliens and Alien Isolation game is the holy trinity.
@matta9316
@matta9316 2 ай бұрын
Agree with you bro - I thought it was quite good
@scotthajney4127
@scotthajney4127 4 ай бұрын
Just watched the 4k Sunday night and thoroughly enjoyed the transfer and sound.
@Selrisitai
@Selrisitai 4 ай бұрын
The hate is because a lot of scenes look A.I. enhanced, and the grain (e.g., details) has been scrubbed from a lot of the film. Wherever the details are retained but the grain is not present, the presentation is waxy and artificial. Also, there's no actual HDR. Some guy did his own color-correction and HDR and in 20 minutes his looked twenty times better than what Cameron put out. We're paying a _premium_ for 4k, so we should get a premium product, and we should not buy when we don't get it, and we should complain loudly and make it known that we didn't buy.
@danielwickman75
@danielwickman75 4 ай бұрын
The digital looks waxy…….the disc however looks incredible!!! It’s sharp and clean! If you want overly obnoxious dirty film grain…….watch the dvd!!!😉
@sirducksworthythe3rd842
@sirducksworthythe3rd842 4 ай бұрын
The whole movie is AI upscaled in this release
@sirducksworthythe3rd842
@sirducksworthythe3rd842 4 ай бұрын
Noise reduction is great, it helps the movies like this
@Selrisitai
@Selrisitai 4 ай бұрын
@@danielwickman75Yes, the A.I. made it sharp, clean and look like one of those A.I.-generated images. I would prefer the original details be there, not would looks like CGI.
@Selrisitai
@Selrisitai 4 ай бұрын
@@sirducksworthythe3rd842With noise reduction comes detail reduction. If you like the look of A.I.-generated images, then this release is definitely for you, but I don't think you can reasonably argue that people _shouldn't_ be disappointed that the movie has not been restored, it's been artificially re-rendered to look CGI.
@cairnex4473
@cairnex4473 2 ай бұрын
The big problem is how inconsistent it is. Some scenes look great some look overly scrubbed, overly sharpened and faces look waxy. To me it seems like a really lazy transfer where they just blasted a layer of processing over the the whole thing and called it a day. It does NOT look like the scrubbing/processing was optimised on a scene by scene basis as it should have been. I honestly don't understand what film makers and studios do this. They should clean the film negative (physically not digitally) scan it, colour grade it and release it with grain and detail intact. Using a quality 4K scan as a source It is easy to create fan edits with all the detail scrubbed out by overly aggressive DNR filters and sharpening algorithms if that is your cup of tea but it is impossible to take this is as a source and recover the lost detail. After T2 and now Aliens I have zero faith in the upcoming release of The Terminator.
@Pyrosis22
@Pyrosis22 4 ай бұрын
Some people might be getting a little too animated about films being DNR and scrubbed and using preconceived ideas of it. I'm sure the streaming version might look fake and plasticky but if the revised film has great detail and not overly processed is it really bad?
@personatodo
@personatodo 4 ай бұрын
Aliens loses that war movie feel when Cameron tinker with color for the earlier blu-ray and now with the latest 4K release, he nearly scrub all the film grain and further tinker with the colors so that it can look like his Avatar movie. This makes the first movie looks even more drastically different than the second one. I don't know why there are so many blu-ray reviews on KZbin defending this decision knowing the backlash. I'm fine with having no grain in his newer movies like Avatar or even older underwater movies like The Abyss but for Aliens it just changes the mood/feel of the movie totally. The DNR and upscaling also made some scenes look even softer than the previous blu-ray and the same issue also happens with the 4K True Lies blu-ray. Abysmal.
@benpascall4297
@benpascall4297 4 ай бұрын
Do you have this disc? I think to go on a rant without it is one thing, but to accuse it of having colours like Avatar is a little over the top don’t you think?
@personatodo
@personatodo 4 ай бұрын
@@benpascall4297 as a big Aliens fan, of course I do and that includes the figures by NECA and Hot Toys too haha. I was quite disappointed by the look and feel of the movie in this 4K blu-ray more so than the normal one. If you see the original Aliens (I have the HD broadcast version of this, the original DVD and the laser disc to compare to) before the first James Cameron remastered blu-ray, the metal grating looks like actual metal(metallic grey hues) and doesn't have that blue/ cyan hue that made the environment look a little plastic and fake. The grain also gave it that war time atmosphere that's totally gone in the 4K blu-ray. Some of the sharpening cause faces to look way too smooth. You can say grain is not detail though it does give it texture, but by losing the original color timing and that filmic look, it just feels like a different movie. Try to imagine turnimg up the saturation for Saving Private Ryan and apply a different color filter. Maybe you don't mind, but many people who watched the original will feel something is totally off and the WW2 atmosphere is gone. I will also say the best special features still belong to the Collector's Edition laser disc. The documentary is totally uncut as you hear cast and crew cursing on set.
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury 4 ай бұрын
​@@personatodoyou talk too much dude🥱
@personatodo
@personatodo 4 ай бұрын
@@LeeTillbury I don't see anything wrong with that dude. More info the better. 😆
@Aragorn62
@Aragorn62 4 ай бұрын
What about the sound?
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury 4 ай бұрын
Atmos- on point🤘🏻
@irishlarper6774
@irishlarper6774 4 ай бұрын
It's not a real 4k transfer. It's an upscale from the 2010 edition. It's just sitting in an HDR container it's not actual doing anything. Not a serious review.
@J-L_Pilot
@J-L_Pilot 4 ай бұрын
Are you listening this movie on an old 26 tv?
@irishlarper6774
@irishlarper6774 4 ай бұрын
@@J-L_Pilot What does the audio have to do with the fake 4K? And no, I'm using an Atmos setup not "listening to this movie on an old 26 inch TV"
@J-L_Pilot
@J-L_Pilot 4 ай бұрын
Sorry about that, we see an old tv in the background, and you were talking about 4k vs Bluray,
@irishlarper6774
@irishlarper6774 4 ай бұрын
@@J-L_Pilot I think you meant to reply to the video author not me
@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984
@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984 4 ай бұрын
Many of the complaints are justified. Having watched Aliens on 4K just recently, and yes, the set-up was correct for the 4K to be viewed. The film looked artificial. There has been A.I. added to give the film a smooth feel, and the grain is very marginal. In some areas, Aliens looks too clean for my liking. I saw the movie when it came out in 1986, and this 4K with enhancements looks very artificial or unnatural. But to many people's eyes, the film looks acceptable. True Lies is a total mess. As for The Abyss, it's probably the better of the three, but that's not saying much.
@cairnex4473
@cairnex4473 2 ай бұрын
2001 and Alien are examples of how to do a 4K release of an older film. T2 is a case study in using excessive processing to create a waxy, greasy mess out of your actors faces... Aliens strays too close to the latter for my liking.
@brianeivanitski2907
@brianeivanitski2907 4 ай бұрын
Anyone on here have drop out issues with the audio ? Thank you.
@markfarris2630
@markfarris2630 4 ай бұрын
I can kinda understand the hate but think it's become too emotionally charged. There are some horror hard-core fan boys that only watch 80 horror on VHS which it the only true way to watch it. I think that's a bit extreme but I do get it, gritty films in especially gritty film quality it's a very unique experience. Cleaner film with less grain does risk the "grittyness" and I would pounce in it too but its not just grind house film quality that matters. If the detail remains and perhaps even enchanted you can get that same dirty feel with a real dirty face in UHD. Still need my copy but I won't be so hostile to a clean picture especially if it's really high detail of some nasty looking imagery.
@richfrommitch
@richfrommitch 4 ай бұрын
Alien is the better film but Aliens is the more entertaining one.
@simonmcpartlin6547
@simonmcpartlin6547 4 ай бұрын
So much divided opinion on these so to be frank I am buying Abyss and Aliens and if I think it looks great I couldn’t give a damn what anyone else thinks. I own over 500 UHD’s so I am happy with my judgement. Oldies particularly those filmed on 70mm tend to be the best, Spartacus, Lawrence of Arabia, Ten Commandments, My Fair Lady, Vertigo, Casablanca.
@joshfulcifan1015
@joshfulcifan1015 4 ай бұрын
Will be ordering the US 4K Edition in a few days. Can't wait to experience it.
@gilbertrios5283
@gilbertrios5283 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review, these Cameron releases have really worked up some purists. Lol
@RMStroope
@RMStroope 4 ай бұрын
Mostly.
@alexanderfedderly
@alexanderfedderly 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, the Aliens disc looks fantastic.
@drupoo2
@drupoo2 4 ай бұрын
Never seen it. I know. It's terrible. But now I want to.
@flowersflix
@flowersflix 4 ай бұрын
🤯
@32lilbruce
@32lilbruce 4 ай бұрын
Better than the blue ray?
@LEMON48
@LEMON48 4 ай бұрын
no
@steveselectricalstuff884
@steveselectricalstuff884 2 ай бұрын
@@LEMON48 the 1080p version looks like film how it was made.
@domeniccatalano-zs6xd
@domeniccatalano-zs6xd 4 ай бұрын
I am a new subscriber, I agree aliens is one of my all-time favorite movies. Do you know where I can buy a 4k version. Amazon has a Spanish version, I need it in English. Thanks, Domenic.
@tedmetalhead6177
@tedmetalhead6177 4 ай бұрын
Walmart
@Sierralara
@Sierralara 4 ай бұрын
I picked up these 3 Cameron movie releases and they look absolutely stunning! Reference quality that has never looked so good. Anyone knocking the work that has been done on these are nit-picking. The sound and the picture quality blew me away after hearing all the hate from some of these people that said it was horrible. I've owned all these movies on previous formats including laser disc back in the day and what was done to these films is extraordinary!
@70grade37
@70grade37 2 ай бұрын
The "Hate" is real simple. But before I get to that lets just get this out of the way first... The 4K releases of Aliens, True Lies and The Abyss are the best ways to watch these movies! (Unfortunately) Period. Now, why is there "Hate"..? Because James Cameron is a fuc**** Idiot! That's why! The Audio in these movies are all B- at Best! Considering movie titles like The Frighteners Mid 90's or other 4K restorations, the sound in these movies mentioned above are Muted, lacking in detail, no Power, depth or drive to them. This didn't NEED to be the way. He chose to sign off on this hot garbage. The same way he did with T2. The fact that movies like The Incredible Hulk, Ready Player One, New Batman, Hacksaw Ridge ect sound SOOOOOOOOO Good, Bold and Raw but one of the BEST movies ever made (T2) is still till this day considered one of the worst audio experiences in 4K is just Crazy! Not to mention the fact that the Waxy-ish look to some of these characters is over the top. Rant complete.
@singin8324
@singin8324 4 ай бұрын
I'm with you this film is stunning on 4K.
@myzamau428
@myzamau428 4 ай бұрын
Removing the film grain is removing the detail. The grain is part of the film whether Cameron likes it or not. That's not the only reason it's a poor transfer, though... it's the clear failures in guesswork that the AI has attempted. Removing detail, then trying to add detail that never existed? Not for me, thanks.
@markcagley484
@markcagley484 4 ай бұрын
Good don’t watch no one cares it looks fantastic
@myzamau428
@myzamau428 4 ай бұрын
@@markcagley484 Clearly people care, else this video wouldn't exist trying to defend it... 🙄
@papa_sloth_gaming547
@papa_sloth_gaming547 4 ай бұрын
​@myzamau428 And like you so rightly stated "Not for me, thanks". That is the best way to put it. You stated your opinion and that's fine. It's when people start ranting and raving like it's the end of the world. Is it great, no but in parts it looks great. The main issue for me is exactly what you said, the film grain. Some movies are fine without it but film grain was there in the first place and that was the overall picture and atmosphere. To have that taken away is odd. There are people out there that also don't like film grain but each to their own. I like it, I'm happy with it. Am I overjoyed by it? No! I do get it though and I understand that people will naturally be put off by it. I watched the 4K release yesterday, then watched the Blu Ray from the Quadrilogy release today. I prefer the 4k release.
@EricMalette
@EricMalette 4 ай бұрын
This disc looks great in close-up shots and for wide shots. Medium shots make people seem sort of waxy. I'm torn because the movie looks better than it ever has without question, it's just that we have this sort of waxiness in many of the shots and it's tough to digest that. I've never been so torn on a release before. AI or not, this film is not missing detail. Rather, it's imposing a standard of clarity or 'definition' that our eyes know isn't quite right.
@jarg8
@jarg8 4 ай бұрын
It's amazing. You can literally see the blurry frames breaking down in resolution when things are in motion. James Cameron is a fool with no respect for preservation
@user-ci6oj2ih8s
@user-ci6oj2ih8s 2 ай бұрын
Grain is film, its a travesty to remove grain.
@michaelmyersplays4992
@michaelmyersplays4992 4 ай бұрын
On a oled it’s top tier
@TheSonofman2
@TheSonofman2 4 ай бұрын
I have to say I disagree with the people criticizing this 4k Aliens release. This also looked amazing to me.
@williamdriver1959
@williamdriver1959 4 ай бұрын
Twin flicks explained why true lies looks how it does. True lies can’t look better. He know some one who worked on it.
@bioshock6935
@bioshock6935 3 ай бұрын
You have to realise the new younger generation wont have watched this film so why do you have question's. Just because its an older film and your older person yourself doesn't mean everyone is at the same age as you and probably dont know its out and its only the new films will make the younger viewers to go back to these old versions for the first time to see them
@chris8791
@chris8791 4 ай бұрын
Godfather part 2 isn't a sequal
@tdvols
@tdvols Ай бұрын
I don't like the look. This is disappointing.
@markcagley484
@markcagley484 4 ай бұрын
I agree people just bitch to bitch it looks phenomenal ! Let people cry and moan if you don’t like it don’t watch that but it looks good
@ColoradoKid303
@ColoradoKid303 4 ай бұрын
Complaining/negativity= more views/comments. I take most people on here with a grain of salt.
@Chronically0nline
@Chronically0nline 4 ай бұрын
Critical thought/honest opinion = a review that may actually help you. Lay off the Colorado puff
@mikaelchristensen5433
@mikaelchristensen5433 4 ай бұрын
Aliens is a great action movie, but it is NOT an Alien movie !
@redmist78
@redmist78 4 ай бұрын
I thought it was damn good looking. I do not WANT grain. Thats the whole reasoning for 4k...to make it look GOOD. The Abyss however, I didnt really notice anything NEW looking......then again its never been on BD so. I will skip True Lies as I watched it again last year and hated it. Which is odd since when it came out I LOVED IT.....just didnt age well.
@Chronically0nline
@Chronically0nline 4 ай бұрын
If you don’t want grain, then you have zero idea what it does for picture detail and should just stick to your pop corn and funny flix 😅
@sirducksworthythe3rd842
@sirducksworthythe3rd842 4 ай бұрын
The hate is causevif ai upscaled, so idiots being idiots, Ai upscaleing is great, and I prefer it
@irishlarper6774
@irishlarper6774 4 ай бұрын
Not a serious person
@bassage13
@bassage13 3 күн бұрын
Are you a bot? That is the stupidest comment I've ever seen.
@clydesalley
@clydesalley 4 ай бұрын
Most of the hate comes from reviewers wanting clicks, and the lemmings follow along. I've given up on most reviewers who can't back up their assessment.
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