If an employer ghosts me, it has proven that it’s not qualified to hire me. End of discussion.
@Milesco6 ай бұрын
Exactly. If they treat their job candidates like crap, how are they going to treat their employees?
@obconoby73958 ай бұрын
I hate when I get all this positive feedback and they act like you're a great candidate and THEN THEY GHOST YOU. 😠
@SusanM.8 ай бұрын
Omg Same ! I feel like I’m losing it because just when I think I’ve got the job...Crickets! Nothing! Nada! I feel like I shouldn’t have to “chase” after them either. To me they are not setting a good impression if I have to email asking wtf is going on. Am I wrong ?
@obconoby73958 ай бұрын
@@SusanM. You're absolutely right. They probably won't even respond.
@Cateutopia8 ай бұрын
Agree. I asked "when can I hear back from you?" Their answer was "Friday". That was last year November 2023. Haven't heard anything to this day.
@ramblr59008 ай бұрын
Thats common practice.
@ramblr59008 ай бұрын
It feels you had a date no follow up
@Satsui_No_Hado8 ай бұрын
If an employer ghosts me , like jocko would say , GOOD. I wouldnt want to work for them or with them anyways.
@HernTheHunter8 ай бұрын
Do not consider yourself hired until you have gotten paid in full and on time.
@skyranger13668 ай бұрын
I like how its always framed as what can the candidate do. Candidates weren't the ones starting this ghosting trend companies were. And its up to companies to change their ways. Because as a candidate you have zero control if an employer will ghost you or not
@gotguitar8 ай бұрын
Exactly. All this “advice” just says that candidates should degrade themselves even further by essentially begging for a job. That and possibly being viewed as a stalker.
@JacobsNews6 ай бұрын
@gotguitar And the only time this works is if the first choice ghost them . But 99 % they will ignore it or send a standard response. I just had one that called me to tell me I got the job they just had one more day of interviews and would call Monday . On Tuesday I text and they said we went with another option. And the crazy Part was the job was way underpaid but it was 10min from my house. I am more shocked someone more qualified then me would take the job 😂😂
@mblake40078 ай бұрын
Being ghosted is a closure I would prefer to move on and keep applying to more respectful organisations.
@chatterboard94972 ай бұрын
@@mblake4007 👏🏻👏🏻
@chrisxavier31478 ай бұрын
Ghosting is such a gutless act, regardless if it’s done in dating or job seeking
@minimaxmiaandme.49713 ай бұрын
Lack of class!
@Goldenbear68 ай бұрын
I’ve been on both side of the scale. I definitely think that every candidate deserves a closure. But the bare minimum is: every candidate that is invited for any types of interview need a closure. There was a time when I spent weeks preparing for multiple levels of interviews, and they kept me strung along for months and eventually ghosted me. In a hindsight, that’s probably a bad environment to work with anyway.
@ALifeAfterLayoff8 ай бұрын
100%. No excuses with ATS systems able to automate this too.
@nicholasrosen63428 ай бұрын
Per my job interviewing experience, if at the end of the interview the interviewer says "we have other candidates to interview and we'll call you in 3 weeks to tell you one way or the other if we decide to hire you" most of the time you won't get hired and you could call them in said time where they'll likely tell you that they went for someone else. As for closure, I disagree with that as it's like trying to chase people who no longer want to talk to you and their ghosting and silence is a response. I've learned the hard way about that with some people.
@gotguitar8 ай бұрын
💯
@NataliyaAlvarez8 ай бұрын
I get interviewed and forget about it, applying for the next coming jobs. This way is better for my mental health.
@gotguitar8 ай бұрын
💯
@vibez9983 ай бұрын
no fr im bout to its exhausting like do yall not need to hire or?
@steelstreet798 ай бұрын
Its not a good thing to be too honest in a job interview. That wont get you hired.
@sharoncobb93348 ай бұрын
Tell them what they want to hear!!!
@dushyantpardeshi39788 ай бұрын
Interview is a conversation between two liars
@jrox19218 ай бұрын
What aggravates me is when you're respectful and professional, but they don't have the courtesy of getting back to you. I've contemplated not sending Thank You emails altogether if I sense the interview will not go any further. Why do they get to reserve their professionalism and the rest of us have to showcase it in every which way? I'm sick of it all.
@obconoby73958 ай бұрын
I don't send Thank You emails for what could be a position that they never intended to fill. I be expecting them to send me a Thank You email for burning my gas and wasting my time. If I send anything, it will be a "eff u" email.
@chuckchan41278 ай бұрын
I never send thank you emails anymore. I only say thanks AFTER they hire me.
@arcsaber11278 ай бұрын
2:40 Hiring manager: We love candidates who demonstrate an interest in our position. Candidate: Demonstrates interest in the position by asking about the application status in email followup Hiring manager: omg look at this PEST
@vibez9983 ай бұрын
real
@owningyourfinances8 ай бұрын
I got ghosted after a very positive phone screen, and then a request for a schedule on next steps. Provided schedule, didn't hear back. I mean, c'mon. So anyway, my rule is 3 strikes and you're out. I followed up 2 days later, and again 5 business days later. I may still apply with that company, but I'm not going to be as motivated now because that level of unprofessionalism is a red flag no matter how you look at it. "Yes, we're ready to schedule you for 2nd round interviews!".... crickets. (eye roll)... do companies not know that we're interviewing them too? Do they assume there are no future roles we might be interested in if this one doesn't work? Even an automated response from the business takes little effort to engage and at least provides closure to the candidate. I have no problem continuing to work with those companies.
@fugu41638 ай бұрын
No matter if a woman or a company are ghosting me i dont want to have anything to do with them anyway.
@gregorriusadolphus27298 ай бұрын
I agree this is an exercise in utility. If they want you for future interviews, they will reach out in a few days. Otherwise, fuggidaboutit and keep it moving. You gotta conserve your energy in this job hunt....playing with fickle recruiters and hiring managers will deplete you QUICK.
@ThePlatypusClan8 ай бұрын
How ironic as I am dealing with this right now! Had a really great phone screen last Friday with a hiring manager. Talked for 55 minutes about the position and my background and she confirmed she wanted to move on to a technical interview and she liked what she heard. I asked about a time line but she wasnt sure as the lead developer would be conducting them. Its been crickets since then and just sent a follow up this morning. Granted its only been 6 days but im less and less hopefuly by the day. Im fine if I am rejected but I would love some kind of response! Its also disappointing because software engineering/development takes multiple rounds to even get offers and at any time in the process they can just drop you. These interviews also take a lot of time to prep and study for so it can be exhuasting if it doesnt result in anything.
@jcchaconjr8 ай бұрын
The current job market has unfortunately been the worst I’ve seen in 30 years. I’ve put in 50 apps and have only gotten two first round phone interviews and an online assessment in what I would consider a reasonable amount of time (kudos to those companies). Unfortunately, one of those positions got put on hold about a week after I interviewed, and I’m still waiting to hear from the other after 2 weeks now. It’s a pretty scary market right now, and I’m growing more concerned by the day that I won’t be able to land a management role again.. and at my age, it seems even more difficult to have to get a position where I have to hope to work my way up again.
@lisak62798 ай бұрын
I used to work in a corporate HR office, and one of the jobs I was given was to send out the “no, thank you” letters for company. It was a simple 2 paragraph letter to people that did not get the job, and on my end all I had to do was run a report and merge the data with the template letter. It closed out the file and was the last step in the recruiting process for the position.
@targetegrat8 ай бұрын
I got ghosted once. It was a blessing. I had a 2nd interview at 10:00am. I emailed the HR Recruiter that I needed to reschedule at 7:45am the morning of my interview and also left a voice message. It snowed and they had not cleared the parking lot/street. I'm glad I didn't get hired, imagine risking your life in inclement weather because of company culture.
@targetegrat8 ай бұрын
@@scmsean That was a blessing. If someone can't be transparent in the interview process. Imagine what its like after you get hired.
@MannyLoxx20108 ай бұрын
You suppose to lie during all job interviews!! Always lie cause the interviewer sure the hell be lying to you!! Another great video, Bryan!!
@lg31038 ай бұрын
If you attend a scheduled video interview where there are supposed to be two people on the other end and only one shows up due to a "conflict", expect to be ghosted afterward.
@bluaurora86358 ай бұрын
I was really excited to interview with a company that has a great reputation in my city in a great, meaningful industry, but at the end of the interview the hiring manager told me not to wait on them because they take ages to hire anyone. And she said the last person they hired didn’t hear back for five months. It’s been like two months. Crickets. And the hiring manager seems pretty disengaged. Very disappointing.
@chuckchan41278 ай бұрын
You got a honest hiring manager. Kudos!
@kdavidsmith18 ай бұрын
It sometimes feels like ghosting is part of the game they play with you. Maybe they're waiting to see who wants the job bad enough to constantly follow up.
@JacobsNews6 ай бұрын
You fallow up once you might get it if the first option ghost them. Otherwise you just aren't the first choice
@charliedallachie35398 ай бұрын
Best one I can think of, say you have an offer on the table but you’re very interested in the position…usually that lights a fire under their rear end for feedback.
@chuckchan41278 ай бұрын
Only do this tactic if you're ok with it backfiring.
@izzo29988 ай бұрын
Bought your Interviewing Crash Course class a while back. I thought it was very helpful. Glad to endorse.
@ALifeAfterLayoff8 ай бұрын
Glad you found value. It’s been completely overhauled so check back in when it’s time to look for a new job!
@izzo29988 ай бұрын
@@ALifeAfterLayoffStill looking.
@afterdarkprod34896 ай бұрын
The biggest responsibility of a recruiter is communicating to the client and potential hires - and 99% of them can't even do THAT right. It's literally just sending emails. Useless
@Jayjs208 ай бұрын
Sure hope no one got ghosted DURING a job interview.
@KeepItFresh027 ай бұрын
I had an interviewer not show during the scheduled time. I also had an interviewer ask if I Azure experience and I said no. He said this wont work out and ended the call.
@mariasullivan26876 ай бұрын
I know someone who did! After two minutes, the interviewer said, "Your audio cut out." And then refused to connect afterwards to reschedule, despite the candidate reaching out via several different ways to ask to reconnect. That was ghosting DURING the interview. Unless the guy had a stroke on the spot, he's a total ass****.
@elizabethhosaka10698 ай бұрын
I’m not currently applying for roles (thank god), but will be at the end of the year as I near the end of my degree. Always watching and tucking away these great tips!
@kdavidsmith18 ай бұрын
You should start applying right now. You need to get that pipeline going. Getting hired can take a long time, 6 months or more. At best you get a job early at worst you have your resume ready to go and have some interview practice.
@fumanpoo47258 ай бұрын
Yes...exercise in futility. The entire process is a vile diarrhea experience.
@CodexArgenteus2 ай бұрын
What’s most frustrating is when they tell you that they WILL reach out…and they DON’T! Like, don’t lie to me! 🙄😡
@cindymora67148 ай бұрын
Is there a video on how detect ghost jobs? For not to loose time applying
@obconoby73958 ай бұрын
I dodged a few interviews because I suspected they were "ghost ads". Ghost ads deserve "ghost applicants".
@drunkensquirrel75458 ай бұрын
@@obconoby7395 True! 🤣
@cpK054L8 ай бұрын
Poster is either Indian or female. Company is in Pune or India in general Board of directors are Hindu. You're welcome
@Bryn4156 ай бұрын
When I was a hiring manager I made sure to express gratitude to the candidate for giving us their time and made sure never to ghost. I was diligent in keeping track of every person I spoke to and made sure to email them no matter what, because I know how much it sucks to be ghosted.
@hanipasha88592 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for a feedback on my final interview for almost a month now. It's quite clear that I have been ghosted by an unprofessional and unethical company. It shows alot about the interviewer and how they would treat you as an employee.
@benreynolds1818 ай бұрын
I've asked a similar question in past interviews, but I love the setting of expectations with asking if they follow up with everyone interviewed.
@alessandrocerioli21516 ай бұрын
If you've been ghosted it means they are not interested in you, nothing you can do will change their minds.
@chuckchan41278 ай бұрын
Companies that ghost you are companies you probably dont want to work for. If they dont even give you an automated email? Lmao
@topsykretts22647 ай бұрын
There’s never a good excuse to get ghosted. Especially not the candidates fault. It’s fine if you’re not what the company is looking for but everyone deserves closure. You probably wouldn’t want to work for them anyways if that’s how they treat and disrespect potential employees.
@thunder8bunny17 күн бұрын
Great tips as always Brian, thanks for sharing ways we can handle the situation with professionalism and grace!
@dank65145 ай бұрын
There are levels to ghosting, but with today's technology it is completely unacceptable for an employer to not automatically let people know once a hiring decision has been made. I recently had three interviews and was one of the final candidates, and then never heard a thing. They made a hire and the person started working (figured out through LinkedIn) and I was never even given the courtesy of an email. It's completely disrespectful.
@TheMrBeaucephus7 ай бұрын
You have some quality wise advice borne of experience. However, I decided to made a large collection of memes to send to recruiters who ghost me or do not respond to my inquiries.
@JohnADuerk6 ай бұрын
I just want to let you know that your content is excellent! Thanks for the work that you put into your videos.
@ALifeAfterLayoff6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@joncarroll20408 ай бұрын
I have only ever received confirmation that I didn't get a job maybe three or four times in almost 30 years of working. Employers don't call you if they don't want to move forward. Accept it and move on.
@JacobsNews6 ай бұрын
I learned never stop applying unless they have a pension or you love it and you are highly paid ..even when you get a job just keep applying and interviewing every few months. And you get good at interviewing
@Dr.HarshTruth8 ай бұрын
I am reading the comments thinking people talk about online dating for men lol
@InformedGlobe8 ай бұрын
If there's one thing I hated about a recruiter is that he asked me "stupid" questions, questions about my field that he didn't know anything about it, obviously, he Googled it and got a brief description, but at the end it made him look really stupid as well as other questions, I ended up contacting the company straight they had many developers and engineers, when these ones started asking questions, then wow finally I am with my people, I have no idea why companies hire all these stupid "recruiters" companies, you don't need these fools, you already have the right people to interview at your place. Save your money and make these idiots go flip burgers if they're good at it at least.
@tamsinronan76795 ай бұрын
Thanks for these videos, they are helping me. I am unemplyed at the moment. I lost my job as a teacher, yes it was very stressful for me. I am considering just doing it part-time and my dream is to teach yoga, and also languages and do massage. I have been ghosted by yoga studios I have approached online, ok this is maybe not really ghosting, but it does make you feel low. Then I had such a strange experience. I was invited for an interview at a studio and the lady said sure no problem that can work there and then she just ghosted me. It made me so sad. I even called her and she claimed that maybe the email had fallen into spam. I said that I understood, was very feiendly and sent it again, again no reply. I am considering sending her an email and telling her how it made me feel. Really sad that people can be like that. Also, it was weird that in the interview all she wanted to talk about what I thought of Czech people. I said they were really nice and she began to argue saying they were cold. I said that I really thought there were cultural differences, but that people are people and so on. She proceeded to talk about how American are fake. It was unprofessional. Anyway, I do know how you guys all feel. Being rejected and on top of that beinf disrespected by people, who cannt have the simple decency to tell truth and acknowledge you, is so hard. Lets not give up!!
@GuruChaz8 ай бұрын
This was just the information I needed. I had 3 interviews with a company and feel like I got ghosted. There was kind of some weird stipulations for employment so maybe they honed in on that. It was a dairy IT position. Maybe I was dressed too business casual.
@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit8 ай бұрын
What's a "dairy IT" position? Is that like, tech support for the cows?
@GuruChaz8 ай бұрын
@@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit Think about that for a moment and what an IT position might be at a corporate dairy that owns multiple locations in 4 different states. It's a remote Systems Administration position. One or two days every 2 weeks on average to visit the dairy close to your location and check on the employees, the satellite, the servers, the...wait for it... ...video camera systems. It's definitely an unconventional IT position. They even issue you farm clothes to wear so you don't get your good clothes messed up.
@GuruChaz8 ай бұрын
@@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit Sarcasm is a big fail during an interview which is why I refrain from it. I hope that helps you.
@obconoby73958 ай бұрын
I have a job interview that was set by a chat bot and not a real person. Does that mean it is an interview for a legitimate vacancy or is it a ghost job.
@jonm19998 ай бұрын
Your organs will be harvested this evening by the company. Do not worry yourself until then and relax!
@targetegrat8 ай бұрын
When I was in HR we used the chat bot. More than likely a real person. Its usually just a virtual assistant setting up the interview.
@sg-zd8eb7 ай бұрын
I once had an “interview” where for the first half of it the woman interviewing spoke to me with her eyes shut. No word of a lie.
@jennyc51008 ай бұрын
Thank you, Brian.
@Astral_Dusk10 күн бұрын
Their primary slogan to the world should say "we think it's professional to ghost"
@Astral_Dusk10 күн бұрын
Some have an automated rejection and then the absolutely jaw dropper nerve to request the applicant complete a survey about the process - hilarious
@bluaurora86358 ай бұрын
Should I send the recruiter a thank you email after an initial phone screen, or no?
@jonm19998 ай бұрын
This stuff is rampant…
@deew13904 ай бұрын
I was ghosted after a one-hour-long assessment and two interviews with the executive staff. They aren't responding to my emails. Oh well. On to the next prospect.
@_..____Ай бұрын
2 weeks ago, I was hired by a large corporation. After my 2nd interview, we shook hand and was told I was hired. To this day, I have *not* hear back from them. The director is not contacting me or replying to my emails. Surprisingly, the HR staff I'm in contact with are not sure what to do, as they claim they don't get any feedback from the director (BS?) I've never had this experience before. I'm now looking for another job.
@jackcarraway47078 ай бұрын
Once you send the post-interview thank you email, forget about that job and keep job hunting. Personally I'd rather be ghosted than be given feedback.
@nishantvarma8 ай бұрын
why?
@jackcarraway47078 ай бұрын
@@nishantvarma Because getting the canned email saying "Thank you for interviewing! Unfortunately we won't be moving forward at this time..." pisses me off. Never say more than necessary and silence is all that is needed.
@chuckchan41278 ай бұрын
I don't bother sending the thank you email. I say thanks at the end of interview and then move on.
@maame8835 ай бұрын
They didn't show up to the teams call and never even replied my emails
@lovedoggy3263 ай бұрын
I was goasted the right before the second interview, is it possible scheduled the date and they just dont show up?😅
@adangbe8 ай бұрын
So now you're a Ghostbuster? 😂 Needless to say, this is great advice for following up!
@owningyourfinances8 ай бұрын
Who ya gonna call? ... apparently no one. lol! Dang ghosts.
@christinao88777 ай бұрын
Ghosting means the company changed their mind about hiring you, posted the position to pipeline candidates in the future, hired internal candidate, or decided not to fill the position. In any case, there is no need to call or email company. If you really like the company keep posting for openings.
@myboringdesktop8 ай бұрын
How do you handle questions about being fired previously if you were fired but believe it was an unjust decision?
@boricuababyhuey75768 ай бұрын
I would steer clear of saying you have been fired and definitely would not bring up and unjustness just to avoid flagging the interviewing company. You could say you parted ways mutually or the role wasnt a good fit. If you do say you were fired sell how you have grown. Best to avoid mention though. Background checks are usually going to confirm dates employed etc. Most companies do not want a lawsuit due to a bad reference preventing a job offer.
@jackcarraway47078 ай бұрын
Keep jobs you were fired from off your resume.
@myboringdesktop8 ай бұрын
@@jackcarraway4707 Difficult for him to do...if it's the one job where he demonstrated his talents in the field that he wants to work in.
@myboringdesktop8 ай бұрын
@@boricuababyhuey7576 I get that, but the company that did this to him is known for underhanded tactics - like saying he is not eligible for re-hire which is just code for "we fired him" - without going into further details. Plus, he is worried that if he gets a job that leaving out the truth may get him fired should they find out later. He really did get a raw deal....but we all get them in the US workforce. It isn't designed for the workers.
@safirahmed8 ай бұрын
Ghostbusting in recruitment.
@JaRhuleАй бұрын
Set expectations with the recruiter??? Recruiters DGAF, no do the hiring managers. They hold all the cards and they have no motivation to show you any decency or respect.
@bravo_018 ай бұрын
Or just move on and stop wasting your time.
@tamsinronan76795 ай бұрын
Sorry, lots of typos. :-D
@tarajones21457 ай бұрын
How do you get ghosted in an interview??
@NoObstacle8 ай бұрын
So the advice is 'beg the recruiter to keep you updated', jesus. They can just send a form rejection notice out, I use ghosting as a filtering tool for who not to work for.
@JustWonderingAloud7 ай бұрын
Sound words... 05:39
@douglaslewandowski29998 ай бұрын
I got ghosted by a manager, and I ended up giving him a few hints that I was still here waiting for him to get back to me, and he had me banned from his business. Is there anything I can do?
@danny11038 ай бұрын
Nothing you can do. Banned as in "He blocked your emails because your wording and actions were weird?" OR "He invited you out of his business because your in person wording and actions were weird?"
@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit8 ай бұрын
Yup: apply elsewhere. What exactly is your expectation, that you can force yourself on them? You're all done with that one, guaranteed.
@douglaslewandowski29998 ай бұрын
@danny1103 Nope. I can't even go to his businesses, or they will call the police.
@danny11038 ай бұрын
@@douglaslewandowski2999 Guess the "hints" you gave them were the proof that they need on why they should ghost you and not hire you while calling the cops on you.
@cpK054L8 ай бұрын
Sign his email up for pr0n. Be petty
@markm8623Ай бұрын
I leave a "thumbs down" on all their corporate YT videos when I get ghosted.
@ryanr51398 ай бұрын
Genneseee & Wyoming Railroad ghosted me after a long panel interview and sitting there job shadowing and being given really positive feedback. Never heard from them since. Idc rn but losers! Don’t sell how good it is to work there and then do that. Cringe.
@Steve-mk6rq7 ай бұрын
Maybe it was a fake interview for a fake job?
@JacobsNews6 ай бұрын
@@Steve-mk6rqcould be internal higher.... a lot of times they really like you but then the next guy comes and they really liked him.
@shuki18 ай бұрын
Frankly, it's only natural because recruiters and hiring managers get ghosted as well.
@chuckchan41278 ай бұрын
I ghost Recruiters lots of time. If the job is somewhere two states ovde from me then it says they didn't take the time to look me up.
@UnequivicaLEO8 ай бұрын
I love ghosting people in general. You get to know them more on a personal level without saying a word. They fill your messages up with all types of shit.