“Holy paladin is in a good place right now” meanwhile the clip in the background everyone is dying and you can’t recover lmao
@yumytv4 жыл бұрын
man i was owning in that clip we pulled like 3 packs into prideful LOL
@Impressionwow4 жыл бұрын
yumytv :p only joking
@JustDeichan4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, healers cant heal your hand from your butt :D
@mapleflavouredbacon99384 жыл бұрын
@@Impressionwow oh now you're joking lmao
@Cabal20084 жыл бұрын
@@yumytv I did make a comment in your tank video as well. I've seen that you have been using REICH's WA set in most of your healers but it has been updated. Although the project stopped since 8.1. Did someone else pick it up and updated it? I'd really love to know about it, because I have been using it for 2 years and I cannot really replace it with another WA. I love his layout and style.
@Neviriah4 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that your videos are always so 'chill' and informative. Loving to see all the content you put out there for 5-man content /M+ and such! Thank you for all the work on videos and for being such a relaxing voice/person on stream and in videos ^_^ Keep up the great work
@canadiancanucklehead83104 жыл бұрын
I’m too smooth brained for discipline, have to play holy
@ymi82384 жыл бұрын
Same same x,)
@nunyabusiness39034 жыл бұрын
I feel that on a personal level
@regularfern4 жыл бұрын
I only play disciple, love it.
@marayanekalita4064 жыл бұрын
lmao, i laughed so hard because it's so true to me
@titotits3 жыл бұрын
I wish holy was good on Dungs. Love holy
@miorioff4 жыл бұрын
That feeling when i was choosing between holy priest or mistweaver and they are bottom 2 PepeHands But for real I'm so sad they destroyed holy's damage, i really wanted spec to shine for a least a little
@Ryuukei04 жыл бұрын
I was trying to decide between my holy priest and restro druid... Ehh ...not a good time to play holy :(
@elcanaldelargan85754 жыл бұрын
Unless they have changed anything more than remove MB and Mind Sear, HP damage was good, as long as you know how to do it, something that ,I must say, have seen no one do right yet, so do not despair. Anyway, with the removal of the engineering BR, we are going to see only druids as healers, so it does not matter if you are Holy priest, disc priest or Holy paladin.
@FEETLOCK4 жыл бұрын
dude play what you want to unless youre like a top raider or top m+ contender its negligible
@Xrembeast4 жыл бұрын
Holy priest is insanely good, don't listen to this guy did +10's in beta np. The lego cloak is amazing (loads of skips) and have more mobility then BFA. Kyrian cov lets you pump dmg when needed and covers our only defensive weakness. Between Circle/MAss dispel its great for certain weeks too now for bursting/grev
@Dac854 жыл бұрын
If you like those classes, play them. The difference isn't going to be enough to make a big difference for 99% of content.
@winifix4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, nice and detailed, not drawn out and to the point.
@balaknik934 жыл бұрын
Since rShaman isn't last I am happy
@dylanchavez74984 жыл бұрын
It’s ok nobody will take them for mythic + anyway lol
@ZeroiusProduction4 жыл бұрын
@@dylanchavez7498 What are you talking about, i love having a 470 ilvl resto shaman who can barely keep me alive on a +5! *Kappa* but not really
@rogermucroy7504 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroiusProduction That;s just because they are shit. I've been playing resto shaman for years and have no problem healing 18's.
@haydenburton17894 жыл бұрын
@@rogermucroy750 18 isn't really that high tbh edit: Once you get into actually high keys the lack of good single target healing / DR% becomes pretty awful.
@bluejaysforever36274 жыл бұрын
@@rogermucroy750 Exactly tbh this video rank is not very good having Paladin in 3rd right now with no AoE healing on demand shows this
@MarkusAndersen964 жыл бұрын
From the moment I saw the Nightfae covenant, I knew that I wanted to enroll there. Pretty set on playing resto druid too so no complicated process for me :)
@TheFreddy1364 жыл бұрын
Damn bro forgot blood dk
@tylerp52594 жыл бұрын
Vengeance DH hands down best healer.
@aligums34243 жыл бұрын
@@tylerp5259 naw man naw
@leshaoverflow85394 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. Surprisingly a resto druid on the first place. How unexpected.
@splash61174 жыл бұрын
Took it off my tongue
@bucsboy784 жыл бұрын
Hybrid classes will always be top. Blizz wants them being played. My poor resto shaman
@haydenburton17894 жыл бұрын
@@bucsboy78 Which healing spec isn't a hybrid class?? Tf lmao.. Shaman is literally also a hybrid
@bucsboy784 жыл бұрын
Hayden Burton I’ve played a shaman for 7 years. Let’s see, 🤔a shaman, priests, etc. Lol .Not sure if you know what a hybrid means in wow. Whispers: Someone who can click all roles when they sign up for LFG.
@yanni69694 жыл бұрын
A spec that specializes in HoT's will always be the best in 5 man content. If it wasn't then the spec would be useless. The offset is that it's not great in a raid environment.
@ricolasalle88364 жыл бұрын
The two healers I’m taking I to slands are Rsham and disc priest. For rsham i chose the venthyr ability... chain harvest absolutely slaps. In large trash pulls it does so Much dmg and burst healing to the group. A very good button to press
@Patrins4 жыл бұрын
my favorite part of this is growl explaining how mistweaver is mechanically and functionally broken bugged and just straight up not working, right after ranking it better than holy priest :D Poor holy, least they can just play disc.
@BaThor94 жыл бұрын
Potter, madskillz and jak all Played MW on stream and it looked like blizzard fixed the legendaries and chi-ji. There are still some bugs to fix but seems like nothing really gamebreaking. Don’t Know if growl tested this Kind of Stuff before he uploded the Video.
@sombrego22604 жыл бұрын
@@BaThor9 pretty sure that no because he mentions changes to chi ji without detailing them. Without bugs and the new chi ji MW is a lot stronger now.
@sylvanaswindrunner79414 жыл бұрын
or you still play holy,cause this list just matters for very high keys. otherwise its completely irrelevant.
@haydenburton17894 жыл бұрын
@@sylvanaswindrunner7941 Anything other than high keys IS irrelevant tbh
@hasany.90954 жыл бұрын
man you are killing it with the uploads, love the content!
@marcusberggren92414 жыл бұрын
I miss the times when healers were only supposed to heal and focus on that. Now they're expected to DPS?
@user-yk9sz9mh1t4 жыл бұрын
Just in high keys tbh
@ante26294 жыл бұрын
They were always kind of expected to DPS if you wanted to efficiently complete content. Doing damage and healing efficiently in raid and dungeons was always a good thing
@6105boe4 жыл бұрын
What do you do when healing is not required? Just stand there? That’s basically sandbagging/trolling your group (all those seconds picking your nose could have been turned into a few smites/moonfires/etc). For healers very new to wow or healing, sure, focus on healing. But a healer that can actually contribute to the group with dps (and utility) has *always* been what separates bad/mediocre healers from great ones. Dead mobs/bosses do no damage that needs to be healed!
@marcusberggren92414 жыл бұрын
@Social Gadfly yeah I did get bored of healing cause it wasn't always I had much to do in a dungeon back when I first started playing. I didn't have anyone teach me or anything.
@marcusberggren92414 жыл бұрын
@Social Gadfly nah I started late Cataclysm and by that point many of the people I knew had already quit so I was literally playing solo in a multiplayer game for some time there. I can understand when pushing high keys that it makes sense that the healer needs to contribute in dps but other than that I think in normal dungeons just focus on keeping the group alive first and foremost.
@XxGlynwenxX4 жыл бұрын
I was REALLY hoping for Holy to be in a better spot this time around =/
@sleepyheals4 жыл бұрын
ikr, disc is cool and all but blizz is just shitting on holy :(
@SenkoVT4 жыл бұрын
holy had its prime time in Legion
@XxGlynwenxX4 жыл бұрын
@@SenkoVT Still... Holy should still have enough viability for for high level Mythic+
@kou71914 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with Holy is that it's treated as the tutorial/generic healer, so it's assumed that whenever someone gets a good hold on the role they'd just switch to Disc because "it's better".
@XxGlynwenxX4 жыл бұрын
@Southern Fern That hurts :( lol
@lukas3099844173 жыл бұрын
The funny thing for me (as a priest since i joined 10+ years ago), is that the higher the key i go (and with not amazing gear like 198 ilvl atm) is that i enjoy holy in higher keys and disc in lower. Holy feels much more relaxed and easier in higher keys and disc feels like i need to pay attention a lot more. It slowly changes as i get used to disc and also the more gear i get obviously the smoother it becomes playing disc in higher keys.
@emocatte3 жыл бұрын
As a holy paladin one trick- I've been doing pretty great in aoe healing with beacon of virtue build. It's been amazing and holding up pretty well as long as you know your class and rotation down to the T.
@nissandjacobsen4 жыл бұрын
For utility it's worth mentioning that shaman brings lust, if mages or hunters are not around
@Cjeska4 жыл бұрын
Shamans have more utility than just lust. An aoe stun, slow, root, hex, a short cd interrupt and a tank-pet are a lot of things that no other class offers in that combination. It might not be the best healer in dishing out raw green numbers, but you can compensate for a lot of pug mouthbreathing.
@ricolasalle88364 жыл бұрын
I can’t tell you how many wipes I’ve saved from the tank getting one shot and me dropping earth ele and kiting and using my kit properly. I started playing Resto shaman at the end of BFA and it instantly became my favorite healer.
@nissandjacobsen4 жыл бұрын
Shamans definitely have some cool niche utility. I think interrupt and lust are the two things that really make them stand out. The interrupt is not important if there's a melee / prot pally meta, and lust probably depends on whether mages and hunters are in play. Earth ele gets smacked really fast in not even so high keys though.
@ricolasalle88364 жыл бұрын
Nis Sand Jacobsen you can heal it thoooo. Also being the only healer with an aoe stun/int is great. As well as earthgrab, earthbind, and tremor. Not to mention they have one of the more complicated healing kits. Setting up your party with strong heals and prep to go into big heals so you can DPs in the mean time.
@Nathanomaly4 жыл бұрын
what a surprise, resto druid is top healer!!!! the class that has always been reeaally good at healing since forever
@haydenburton17894 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but in raids they are meh.
@mca_reef4 жыл бұрын
Resto druids and shamans mostly good early stage of expansions. Then priest and pala comes at the endgame.
@ddebling4 жыл бұрын
@@mca_reef you seemed to have miskeyed and put priest as an endgame class....
@mca_reef4 жыл бұрын
@@ddebling i mostly think disc priests but holy not bad at all levels.
@dw3094 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Druids were absolute dung piles throughout classic.
@strawberry-parfait39223 жыл бұрын
i dont like the constant aoe damage in dungeons specially with random groups you already have to carry bad dds standing in fire and such. And aoe healing is really annoying as paladin i just want to spam holy light/word and schocks around
@MajinEvelyn4 жыл бұрын
Didn't think I'd ever play anything but rdruid but disc is almost feeling fun enough for me to finally switch mains. Glad these two are looking so strong right now
@vamborala4 жыл бұрын
I can relate to your feelings.. Been maining rdruid for 2 expansions and got bored to the ass with it. I decided to swap to disc for SL way before rankings came out and Im more than happy for my choice
@SenkoVT4 жыл бұрын
@@vamborala i have a different mindset, i pref to play heal or tank so i try to pick a class that can perform both for situational specc changing and mixing things up. thats why i considered playing druid ( as always ) Paladin, Monk. In the end it was a close run but Monk did it for me, its a fun playstyle and good in pvp, also brewmaster becomes very good.
@Preaplanes4 жыл бұрын
What about Holy?
@MajinEvelyn4 жыл бұрын
@@Preaplanes good one 🤣
@Preaplanes4 жыл бұрын
@@MajinEvelyn Indeed, Holy has it worse. So quit crying like a whiny little itch about rdruid.
@onpiingers904 жыл бұрын
As someone who has played dps basically every xpac since BC and considering swapping to a healer in SL this was very informative and helpful to get some baseline of where healers are at. Awesome video :D
@andreaskarlsson52513 жыл бұрын
As someone who has played for about 2 weeks very casually(leveling as enhancement). What would some go-to tips be to pick up on using CDs effectively? There's so many different cooldowns and totems and whatnot that I feel like Im using the wrong totem/cd at the wrong point. Oh and I love your videos. Only wow content I subscribe to. Solid explanations and informative videos. Two thumbs up.
@Hagmaru4 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying that Holy Priest being at the bottom of the list is wrong, but if you are basing that decision on the gameplay shown in the video here. I would say that Holy Priest is a lot more capable. And just to be clear, I'm not trying to bash the guy that were playing in the clip since it seemed like he were just going through all the healers.
@bradleybronkhorst52114 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this vid, thanks. I’m not on beta and needed help deciding on a class, and these vids help me a lot
@happytrails19634 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your list! Have you had a chance to check out the latest fistweaving changes on beta? There were some interesting things added and there is maybe some potential for good aoe healing to help with prideful. The dmg didn't look too bad either.
@yumytv4 жыл бұрын
I've been playing with it a bit, there are still some bugs with it but I want to have a mistweaver dungeon gameplay video where I go over some of the changes within the next week or two.
@mikkolindstrom17974 жыл бұрын
Oh man. Holy priest feels like the most fun healer of them all and have felt like this since ages and all the time its the same story "Its not strong". Challenge accepted :D Only time they convinced me to play disc when we downed Lich King
@keithwinget5264 жыл бұрын
Raid healed resto druid in WoTLK, and am looking forward to picking back up the spec and returning to WoW for Shadowlands, since I quit back during Cata.
@RezidentZombie4 жыл бұрын
I mained resto druid in WOTLK also. Quit when Cata came out. I just started playing again. Opened a new account and picked.... Rdruid. Still love it.
@keithwinget5264 жыл бұрын
@@RezidentZombie I actually can't decide what I want to main anymore. The thing is I don't intend to necessarily be in the most difficult content ASAP or anything like that. I just want to experience "fun" since kinda losing it in Cata.
@RezidentZombie4 жыл бұрын
@@keithwinget526 I don't plan on doing the hardest content either. I just like healing and doing 5 man dungeons. I also quest a lot and am having a lot of fun playing my druid. I can pick any role being a druid. I've tried all the other healers and the only other one I like is holy paladin. So I may level up a paladin when shadow lands comes out.
@keithwinget5264 жыл бұрын
@@RezidentZombie I have been experimenting with leveling a shaman once in a while lately, but it feels like it's really dependent on the group not being too far apart to do its best group healing. It also seems like Blizz can't decide how they want to balance Elemental, and I haven't even tried Enhancement yet...so idk how that's going to pan out. I at least have my trusty druid to work with, though.
@ryans37954 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ive always liked holy priest vs other healers. The circle of prayer becoming baseline along with the talent that increases the prayer of healing cast speed just seems great. ) While I have not looked into legendaries or covenant spells, if fhe priest stays this way i may end up healing this time around.
@Matthew-wc8dl4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a good, detailed video. Defo happy about my choices of either Rdruid and disc. Been watching a few vids and feel like it is about right to sub! Keep it up!
@LowlandTenrec3 жыл бұрын
I've been mailing holy priest. Its not too bad, but I'm sure if I tried another class I might be happier. I made my choice and im sticking with it though.
@4mb1274 жыл бұрын
As I druid I'm shocked and surprised that we are the top healing in M+. Never ever could have seen that coming.
@jace48174 жыл бұрын
"snickers in druid"
@tomykulak77284 жыл бұрын
I hope this is a huge sarcasm. 😂😂
@rcmmntsbd48134 жыл бұрын
@Jehovah Feral is looking pretty good actually
@jasonasano36174 жыл бұрын
As a guardian main since legion I am all types of not surprised... we start awful bet get better the longer the expansion
@4mb1274 жыл бұрын
@@jasonasano3617 I guess I missed the part where bears were good in BfA
@puppetface99754 жыл бұрын
Resto druid will be the strongest choices for difficult affix weeks, but push weeks Disc's damage is just gunna make them a better choice on high keys. Disc also gunna be the best progression raid choice in the upcoming content, boss for two forms of content.
@orphanzjeh4 жыл бұрын
Yo growl, can you do one video talking about the best convenant for each healer m+, raids and ppl that want to play healer and offspecs aswell? Whould na great having some idea :) keep up the good work
@miorioff4 жыл бұрын
I second this, I trust growl more, than some random guides on the net
@abckatze4 жыл бұрын
As he mentioned in the Video, covenants are a Bit controversial at the Moment which means they could be subject to rather big changes. I‘d like a Video on it too, But it is probably More meaningful to do it closer to release
@yumytv4 жыл бұрын
I will definitely go over this, however I want to wait until the game is closer to release
@Riku12344 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and it's now my go to, fantastic work.
@benoitrousseau41374 жыл бұрын
Man my favorite tank is prot warrior and my favorite healer is holy priest. This is so disheartening to hear.
@chuklesty4 жыл бұрын
Are you doing +20 pluses? If not then don't worry too much about it
@josephhalbohn59624 жыл бұрын
Like they said, if you aren’t pushing high keys and you play with a guild/friends just play whatever you like
@tdmc64284 жыл бұрын
Tato Cubano and generally if someone is gonna reject your from a 1-15 off of class choice alone then you are better off not in that group
@kukuruku123464 жыл бұрын
Same
@Sam-es2gf4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate these ranking videos, your descriptions of the classes is informative and well thought out. If I can offer criticism, a lot of what you said in the intro could be summed up in a few sentences. Personally, I'm glad to hear disc performs well :)
@vaun21484 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to your weakauras? I would love to try them out!
@@Spanner1971B what was it the suspense is killing me
@Schilani4 жыл бұрын
"Play whatever you like" - "If you play Holy, your best skill is to reroll"... erm... what am I missing?
@bluejaysforever36274 жыл бұрын
Ignore this guy he is talking sh!t
@yarnf4 жыл бұрын
rerolling is playing too
@hectorandem29444 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes... _"re-roleplaying"._ 🙃🔫
@taserrr4 жыл бұрын
But there's no real issue here because you can change spec. What he means is every single healing class is fine to play, it's not like you are actually drastically behind other classes.
@nyushka63444 жыл бұрын
Don't let the guides on the internet bring you down, stick with what you like and not the seemingly never changing meta of rdruids everywhere. Holy Priest main for life!
@javiershen4 жыл бұрын
Hi, imo top 2 heals are clear, druid and disc priest, but it's a tie for me, since it mainly will depend of party setup. I'll explain myself (take into account that this is beta and there are still 2 months of tuning): 1) If the party has no bress druid is clearly the winner there. 2) If the party has a bress (but not a lock), druid might be tied with disc priest 3) If the party has lock, disc priest is better, since lock can ss himself in order to always have bress up, also pairing Power Infusion into DPS cds is OP as fk. 4) Depending of the dungeon, one is better than the other one. For example, in Halls druid is better since there are several curse dispels.
@Nworthholf4 жыл бұрын
I really hope they will bring hpriest to its former glory. Miss the wotlk times when you could solo heal more than half of 10ppl heroic ICC even without bis gear :c
@demoncleaner804 жыл бұрын
Holy Priest getting PW: Shield back, Prayer of Mending going to Instant Cast... Renew getting a really good buff with the new first row talent Renewed Faith. Benediction and Holy Word Salvation will make it nuts for raid healing I'd guess. Apotheosis talent just got buffed as well. And for PvP, Divine Ascension is a pretty neat new talent, like a healing version of the Demon Hunter PvP talent "Rain from Above". Take my thoughts with a grain of salt, because I haven't played the SL Beta at all, but what I've read I'm pretty happy with. That being said I have All 6 healer classes at 120 now so I will definitely have to pick one before October, LOL
@julianmurphy62764 жыл бұрын
none of those things make holy good. it doesn't bring anything other healers can't already do. and for raids, we'll be the kings of fucking heroic again yay...
@demoncleaner804 жыл бұрын
@@julianmurphy6276 Well all I can say is I welcome the changes. If I play my Priest, I enjoy the ability of having the only class with two healing specs that are both potentially useful. My gripes would be with Shadow, honestly. Since Legion, the whole "Void" thing has been rather disappointing to me. But people have been hyping up the Shadow changes, so I'll wait and see.
@julianmurphy62764 жыл бұрын
@@demoncleaner80 "If I play my Priest, I enjoy the ability of having the only class with two healing specs" this doesn't mean anything since Disc is better litteraly everywhere.
@julianmurphy62764 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Tandy and for the past 4 years.
@julianmurphy62764 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Tandy a nerf wouldn't fix anything. the fact that disc has and will always overshadow holy is not even debatable. the only thing that could fix the issue is an overall of either of the specs because right now, disc's toolkit is far better than holy's. holy basically only does brute force hps, disc does that too but can also provide damage reduction which is a huge deal in mm. they have a decent external cd, holy has wings which is arguably the worst external of all heal specs. and last but not least they provide non negligeable damage, holy does not unless they completely stop healing.
@williamfrei31264 жыл бұрын
Bruh im so glad I made a resto kultiran as my healer alt just hit 120 on him tonight. Wasnt sure how they'd hold up in shadowlands but I really enjoy the Heal over time playstyle and utility that druid offers. Seems like most healer lists have them in S or A tier. Looking like I made a solid pic.
@andrewroach51384 жыл бұрын
Having played all the healers except hpally on beta I also found druid to be the most mana efficient. I can basically cast non stop and never need to drink. Over all resto druid seems like it will continue its M+ dominance
@BrewokGanas4 жыл бұрын
although raid tier is not that interesting for you, but would you give us your ideal ranking for the last 3 bosses?
@arthurmbf4 жыл бұрын
Hey, man! Thanks for the video. I have a quick question, though. What are those icons to the left of mobs health bar that track their skills timers? It's incredibly helpfull and I wonder why I had never heard about that before. Where can I get that functionality? I do use plater aswell
@yumytv4 жыл бұрын
Its one of reloe's projects, a self learning weakaura that tracks spell cooldowns. I have it installed but it seems a bit unreliable, but if you want to mess with it you can try it here: wago.io/6M_KiGjfr
@arthurmbf4 жыл бұрын
@@yumytv Wow, that's really cool. Thank you! Will surely try it out
@adarvold51574 жыл бұрын
you are killing it right now for class content. Thank you!
@timmackinnon4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! Do you think you will make an updated version once the prepatch hits?
@wtbchildhood4 жыл бұрын
They should make way of the crane a cd baseline talent for mistweaver monks like they did with glimmer for pally to add more flavor in healing for pve and pvp. It’d help them a lot I think
@abaiser92584 жыл бұрын
Another expansion another time to cry for holy priest :(
@aldenthedude39214 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard nothing but good things about holy
@elcanaldelargan85754 жыл бұрын
I disagree with this assesment, with a bit of management and skill, and a party which does not take huge amounts of damage, it can do a lot of DPS. Anyway, only class viable right now is resto druid thanks to the removal of engineering battle ress, so pointless discussion with any other healer.
@eps-nx8zg4 жыл бұрын
@@elcanaldelargan8575 warlocks, deathknights and moonkins are all good right now so I would say resto druid for bres is not required.
@DeadKultureVulture4 жыл бұрын
@@aldenthedude3921 You've probably not been talking to Holy Priest who do more than random Heroics. They returned a few things that they took away in BfA, then took half of those away again. Holy has been the worst Healer in M+ in every patch for 4 straight years, giving us back abilities we had when we were still the worst M+ healer isn't much of a step forward.
@DeadKultureVulture4 жыл бұрын
@@elcanaldelargan8575 Yeah, but any Healer can do a lot of DPS if they don't every have to cast spells on Healing. And yeah, removal of Engi res just made Resto Druid even more dominant
@manos9004 жыл бұрын
lets just dont fool ourselves, druid will be THE mandatory healer for mythic+ now that brez isnt found on scrolls. Pugs especially, they will never invite you if you are not resto druid. I call this now...
@nyarlath70734 жыл бұрын
this is true.. an there will no big changes like a DR for shaman or a better holy priest. the shit classes stay as their are
@kristianflamsted90384 жыл бұрын
Have a druid or DK dps.. problem solved.. NEEEXT....
@sh4rkbayte4 жыл бұрын
@@kristianflamsted9038 or Warlock
@jacobcuster954 жыл бұрын
I don’t get how that’s fair for the other healers; why is resto have the best heals AND the only bone who can battle Rez. Not balanced.
@amadeoel37814 жыл бұрын
Jacob Custer it is balanced, rDruid takes quite some knowledge to set the heals up due to the preactive nature of hots. Not all classes should have all tools, 97% of the players never push above 15 keys, 70% never go above 10 and below 10 who cares. I main a rShaman and I was always fine and I had never anyone reject me due to not being a druid. Brez wont make a bad player good, and a bas group clean the dungeon.
@ToejamDcheflok3 жыл бұрын
Question: Do you think mistweaver can heal without melee healing? as far as I know fist weaver healer is just an option. Or do you think fist weaver is the only viable form of monk healing?
@punker25344 жыл бұрын
thanks for the content Growl! - Friends
@bullseye6084 жыл бұрын
I've mained Holy Priest since WotLK, and I used to feel good about the amount of throughput and tools compared to the other classes, but as other classes gained those things, holy got nothing... There's just no reason to pick one now because they don't win in any category, and it's genuinely upsetting.
@godlygamer9114 жыл бұрын
LOL YOU MAINED HOLY PRIEST DURING WRATH AND MOP THE TWO TIMES DISC SHIT ALL OVER IT!?
@godlygamer9114 жыл бұрын
@NickoLps so you're literally saying what he is... Stop sucking and play with good players
@godlygamer9114 жыл бұрын
@NickoLps Lol because you're only at 3k
@blessedass4 жыл бұрын
You can still play holy in raid + pvp and swap to disc for 5 mens. Dunmo why r u complaining?
@MaethorDerien4 жыл бұрын
They actually win as a raid healer right now. Shaman and holy both are absurdly strong at raid healing right now especially with how the raids are designed, I expect both of them to be in every comp for high end raids.
@freyachi3024 жыл бұрын
Wonder if holy will ever be fixed and be good in dungeons
@jwl54983 жыл бұрын
Can you update this for how it looks now 2 weeks in? Doesn’t necessarily need to be this long. Just refer to people to watch this and the come back. If not, where is the updated mistweaver video?
@laurenford39514 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I leveled up a Resto druid to 120, it's my first healer, but I've gotten better, excited for shadowlands!
@Swinke4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if i could ever heal such high levels but when i play with my friends i think im going to main a healer this time around :) mistweaver is pretty cool
@HolmgaardProduction4 жыл бұрын
I just started leveling a mistweaver with my friends, and its actually pretty decent. In addition, the smart heals make it a good beginner healer imo ^^
@tdmc64284 жыл бұрын
Mistweaver is so good. When you are new you can play reactively and not be punished too hard for doing so, plus your single target tank healing is huge. When you become comfortable and learn dungeons so that you can move to proactive healing it really takes off in enjoyment and starts pulling off a lot
@theoriginalbreadcrumb4 жыл бұрын
Ease of play also need to be a factor. Doesn't matter if something is best if most people can't play at the level where they can abuse that specs advantage. Final tuning hasn't been done yet either so as you said, this is what is good atm :)
@luna80sx783 жыл бұрын
I've been playing priest holy, and in dungeons from legion my team always dies it doesn't heal that much and run out of mana too fast, I feel shaman is way better my shaman heals a lot of health I can fill someone's health with 2 spells, and I always struggle with my priest, I wanna main priest but I'm having a hard time healing am I doing something wrong? My priest is lvl 32 and in dungeons my team dies most of the times
@joaocaju30614 жыл бұрын
I think the weak AoE being for Holy Paladin is because you didn't take Beacon of Hope as a talent? Yeah, I know Glimmer competes with it, but BoH has been mt go-to talent for M+ since Legion. It makes things go much smoother.
@MrSups14 жыл бұрын
love your work yumytv
@cerevantes12344 жыл бұрын
Rankings are nice, but tier lists let you give tangible separation between what you feel are equal gaps. A ranked list implies the difference between the specs could be nonexistant, or infinite in gulf.
@romanfaizov6814 жыл бұрын
thanks for video. i am a new player, when shadowlands is out i will try disc priest. hope it won't be too hard
@tomykulak77284 жыл бұрын
I liked the list, but one thing i didnt like is saying that only mistweavers have harder mana management. This feels like a very subjective topic and depends on experience on the specific healer. And they also have great aoe healing outside of revival and way of the crane. Their mastery helps out alot.
@Blankp1anet4 жыл бұрын
Hey yumy, just wanted to know what addon you use for your party frames and how you get the icons of your hots on there? Thanks in advance and ty for all the SL videos!
@yhouni4 жыл бұрын
He has a video about it, it’s vuhdo
@Blankp1anet4 жыл бұрын
@@yhouni ty
@Purrest4 жыл бұрын
What healing addons do you use for the cursor macros and raid frames?
@Nigelangelo854 жыл бұрын
I think it’s worth noting that the dungeons in SL have been much more punishing as a melee player. So not only will hpalls and mws have a rough time, but rshamans will also if a 1 melee dps comp is more meta. Feels chainheal man
@thepayback29874 жыл бұрын
Does the game developer play rdru?) Seriously, this is just a pre-patch, and in the release everything will change a lot, as it was before. And I think every class is good for M +, you can look at wow rio that all classes can heal high keys, but the highest keys will probably heal 1-2 classes again ..
@taserrr4 жыл бұрын
I doubt resto shaman will be good enough to play in M+ dungeons, too many boss/affix mechanics that require your party to NOT stack, so you can't keep up with heals.
@flaky94544 жыл бұрын
Hoy I had a question and wondering if anybody could help me out. So I grew tired of Dh and wanted to become a healer and picked priest. I was thinking about choosing Holy since i heard that its more beginnerfriendly, but Disc just looks better in every way. Now the question is : Should I get used to disc from the start, or should i begin with Holy and switch to disc later on ?
@Chaptermaster424 жыл бұрын
Just get used to disc now. Honestly disc will probably just be more useful in both dungeons and raids for the forseeable future, especially since blizz doesnt seem *that* inclined to address holy's problems. Also holy is a lot easier to learn later on compared to disc, so no pressure to learn it now (saying this as a holy main for 6 yrs).
@Amandor20114 жыл бұрын
Start with disc As long as disc stays the same in raids, it will be top tier due to Evangelism being busted, Barrier being must have on progress and in general healer doing damage without losing healing is superior to others Right now it's also really strong in m+, it has one of the strongest covenant abilities for its spec and soulbinds are good for it One of the best times to roll disc 100% Holy is really easy and you'll be able to try it later on if you'd want to
@DeadKultureVulture4 жыл бұрын
My advice as a Holy Priest main, level a Resto Druid. It's been 4 years and Holy hasn't received a single meaningful buff. They took a a lot of abilities away in BfA (When we were already the worst Healer) and are telling us they are "Buffing" us by giving some back. But if you are dead set on Priest, play Disc, and only Disc. Unless Holy gets massive changes they are gonna to be the worst for another 2 years.
@flaky94544 жыл бұрын
Alright disc it will be ! Thanks a lot guys 😁
@leakyshoes_o74 жыл бұрын
@@flaky9454 good choice!! Disc will (by force) teach you damage patterns. Learn the pattern, and then next time you'll be more preemptive to mitigate it.
@nickagrianitis34284 жыл бұрын
Hey man great video as always. I'm gonna make the switch from hpaly to resto druid coming Shadowlands. Wanted to ask something. Forgive my ignorance. How does resto druid counter a sustain or burst aoe damage scenario? Like on prideful? Eflo on the floor, swiftmend and wild growth? Can't think of anything else, and this combo doesn't seem powerfull enough to keep oeaply alive. What do I forget?
@yumytv4 жыл бұрын
Rejuv, wild growth, efflo on everyone as much as possible. You can single target regrowth/swiftmends on people who are taking more damage, and use tranq or convoke (nightfae) if you fall behind. You can juice your wild growth with soul of the forest as well for a bit of extra party healing.
@nickagrianitis34284 жыл бұрын
@@yumytv thanks for the reply man. Dont have beta but I'm looking forward to do some keys during prepatch to check druid out.
@Neor4s3 жыл бұрын
mistweaver will always be a underrated spec tbh. It was only unplayable in MoP
@TB_1514 жыл бұрын
Solid vid! You plan on doing a raid video for heals?
@tomoyaokazaki71564 жыл бұрын
I agree with ur mw monk placement I mained in legion and bfa and what I've seen in the beta feel a bit the same but still fun to play
@Nudels994 жыл бұрын
Druid is Top in m+, PvP and also Raid. Nice done Blizz
@pewthepuny28494 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to be the worst in all of those as a holy priest main.
@Nudels994 жыл бұрын
@@pewthepuny2849 I think Holy perform in Raid very well.
@MaxDesal4 жыл бұрын
Hi man, just a little curious about how you rate the Shaman healer's utility. Not sure how popular or common this idea is, but i have always regarded shamans as a healing toolbox. They have always been able to tool themselves through talents/azarite traits/artifact relics to deal with most scenario's. Granted they aren't the most optimal choice for those scenario's but def hold their own. But what about those other tools they have. Totems like tremor and wind rush, an interrupt, self rez, etc. The toolbox seems similar to what shamans have had at their disposal for a while now. So i am not surprised to hear you say they struggle a little in M+. But i am mainly curious how you would rank them utility wise towards other healers. Also yes i agree, having a flat Damage reduction ability would be amazing. Something along the lines of Iron bark or pain suppression. I hoped they would boost a spell to grant this effect. Unleash life or earth shield giving a DR, maybe redesign earth wall so you pop it on someone. Giving them DR and an AoE around them that grants others in it a chance to absorb some damage.
@haydenburton17894 жыл бұрын
The reason they suffer coincides with their lack of a Damage Reduction. They have very poor tank healing overall, which matters a lot when you get to high keys.
@MrPapajohn43 жыл бұрын
Is discipline gets this much better? Cause is the only one i am struggling atm at bfa. Or the other healers nerfed to the point that disc is better?
@Symbolesk4 жыл бұрын
I like your WA2 but with dominos looks strange, Do you happen to have a paste bin? I'd like to mess around with it
@alyssaleanaxo4 жыл бұрын
It's beta, so a lot of things aren't working properly. Here's his UI/WAs for live though: My current resto druid WeakAura UI package: wago.io/ATDlF4ZGU ---- Short video with UI setup FAQ: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJO3q3ltf6Z4q5o . My ElvUi profile: wago.io/bIbBtE_lm (some are working in beta just fine).
@dominikaaeriar4 жыл бұрын
Shaman is mostly where expected, I hope his value for raid will make up for it, in my case.
@olgak67344 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vid. Im coming back to the game and was very discouraged to be honest. I love my resto druid, it was my first and best character back in BC, but cat weaving is just not my thing at all. I did try but i hate being in melee. I never ever had melee class and it is something that makes me irritated. After watching some videos on KZbin i had an idea that for resto druid it is either cat or GTFO. I see you shapeshift in to boom and you made my day:) I am absolutely for contributing to dps in dungeons, and live doing it, but kitty and melee is just no no for me. Im super exited now!
@TyranadeP4 жыл бұрын
So Holy priest is the only healer choice if you don't want to dps as healer now? Or when you say dungeon you mean M+ only?
@muchacho198864 жыл бұрын
So basically nothing changes between BFA and Shadowlands with exception of bursting being dispelable which makes Disc priest really good all of sudden.
@haydenburton17894 жыл бұрын
On top of that, every bolt of Penance removes a stack of Grievous. At the start of xpacs, everyone does less damage. Those are the only 2 affixes disc struggled with. Unlike BFA 8.3, healer damage will matter a lot more in SL S1 (9.0). This only furthers disc viability.
@HJS90264 жыл бұрын
What are you going to play come Shadowlands? Thinking of getting into healing myself. Love your channel and just wanna copy your main choice so I can learn from the best lol.
@haydenburton17894 жыл бұрын
You'd be better off playing something that interests you, especially if you aren't planning on doing super high lvl keys :)
@dylan248484 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for your weak aura in the middle? It’s beautiful and want to give it a try!!
@ante26294 жыл бұрын
He does in his UI video
@MDM6666664 жыл бұрын
Save yourself 14 minutes, his order from best to worst: RDru, Disc, HPal, RSham, MW, HPriest
@yhouni4 жыл бұрын
It stated in the description lol
@diggidydale4 жыл бұрын
Growl, can you tell me why you put holy last? is it just weak or is it you can take a disc priest and get everything holy has?
@haydenburton17894 жыл бұрын
Holy has no utility, mobility, or survivability. Its healing doesn't make up for this. It's basically a worse Mistweaver. It also has no external Damage Reduction cool down for tanks (e.g. Pain Suppression). On top of all of this, Holy's damage is weak and you have to stop healing to do damage.
@chriswarner37712 жыл бұрын
Can you do an update to this video? Amd compare it to what you expected
@aw89514 жыл бұрын
What addon or weak aura is that you are using for each healer?
@yumytv4 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of my weakauras available here: wago.io/p/petzergling My stuff on beta is sort of still in development so I don't have much of it posted, but it will be available on release of the game.
@MrTedTederson4 жыл бұрын
So we have to heal more in shadowland dungeons/mythics, AND bring utility AND contribute dps? That's an awful lot of extra that the deeps & tanks aren't expected to bring. I like a challenge but I also like finishing content without feeling like I just pushed a giant Boulder up a mountain only to have it roll back down for the next 2 years of expansion. As it is the affixes most weeks in bfa feel like they're all designed as healer checks.
@Nomihc3 жыл бұрын
Which covenant is best for healing m+ as rdruid?
@katiesmythe49442 жыл бұрын
Discipline is kicked immediately as healer in every group I've been in (Raid or Mythic). They CAN'T heal. They can't DPS either. Give a Warrior a stack of bandages and they can heal about as good as Discipline priest (Seriously not joking here). I personally can out-heal a Discipline priest with a Prot Paladin. Other than even including them in your review, I agree with just about every thing else.
@KomRade4934 жыл бұрын
Solid video. You earned my sub
@search4progress4 жыл бұрын
Why dont all healers have bres with all this m+ balancing going on?
@icemeluun13134 жыл бұрын
kyrian is the only covenant good for holy I tought night fae was good like being able to reduce the cd of major abilities simply by healing seems good or im wrong ?
@annemowdy3914 жыл бұрын
As a HolyPriest main, I really want to be Night Fae instead of Kyrian. I think the soulbinds will make up for the weaker class ability, but I guess we'll find out soon.
@annacseploova61393 жыл бұрын
Main holy here... My opinion is: 1. Kyrian will give you some extra dmg plus heal but that do not fix a problem- our utility and movement speed... 2. Nigh fea is soo underrestemated... Many youtubers are saying that its nôt great for m+ and raid environment.. Really?... It give us some movement speed ability which can be usefull in both environment... Dmg reduction... Not usefull? This is what we beg for few expantions and when we get it its not that great? Bulshit 😠.. This can help holyp a lot when used properly. CD on major class ability this can help too since some classes have long cds you can help reduce their cds and improve their dmg.... Wrathfull fearie is only ability that i think is kinda "meh" But since exp is delayed they have time maybe bring some thing new. I would recomened you to pick night fea... But final choice is yours😘✌️ 2.
@Fabian-gj5tk4 жыл бұрын
i miss the times where resto druid wasnt always the best healer back to back on every expansion, they're simply too strong every fucking time and get barely ever any competition
@mililanirosas38884 жыл бұрын
Start video at 4:50, you’re welcome.
@thePhished3 жыл бұрын
If you think essence font isnt extremely strong in a dungeon setting, you dont understand how to use it.
@RalphEvangelista4 жыл бұрын
As a holy priest main, that last comment fucking hurt man #FeelsBadMan
@iblisellis71144 жыл бұрын
I love and hate these types of videos. On the one hand, I play all of the healers, so regardless of whether they're underpowered or overpowered I'm going to be playing them all in a Mythic scenario and trying my best to push high keys. On the other hand, it's just interesting watching all the changes between expansions and seeing where they start to float in their new ranks.
@MaethorDerien4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the difference is this time we only have 2 weeks before raid opening. That means I am going to need to pick a main to focus on pretty heavily. For me it is a draw between shaman and druid. The shaman definitely wins at raiding but they are looking really really bad at M+ right now due to the lack of single target and prideful and many of the other mechanics kinda encourages spreading out which really sucks. The two affixes they removed were literally the ones where you wanted to stack more on the tank and stack higher melee dps.
@kukuruku123464 жыл бұрын
Damn nice content . Any chance we get this for tanks also?
@shred4034 жыл бұрын
hes done one for tanks already actually! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZWTaox_qtZ_raM