All About Dart Weight & A Comparison Between the Lightest and Heaviest Darts In The PDC

[@linetiilikainen2755]

When Preastley won his first World title in 1991 he used a copper tungsten dart that he had bought in the late 70s that weighted 26 grams. But as copper tungsten darts are softer that wear down so by the time he won his first title they where 13 grams. He later went up to 15 grams and then 17 grams for the last couple of years. Bdo player Richie Davis used a homemade 13,5 gram dart. Im such a nerd.

[@darrenandrews678]

Dennis threw 17gm darts not 26

[@linetiilikainen2755]

@@darrenandrews678 Maybe you should lern to read the full comments before you write a comment yourself.

[@darrenandrews678]

They were actually 11gms when he won both world titles

[@thecarpetman7687]

Was it because the barrels hitting each other that chipped metal off and made them lighter?

[@TTIOTT]

@@thecarpetman7687 also the oils in your hands corroding the metal aftet thousands of hours if use

[@christianmenard9129]

I just hit my first 180 while listening to this video! It took me 10 months to finally get it, and I'm excited to keep throwing. I started throwing a 20g, then switched to 23, and am currently using 24g Red Dragon Pegasus darts. I'm finding that I like my darts on the heavier side with a longer stem. I need to give those Loxley 32g ones a try! Thanks for the content!

[@graearea101]

heavy, long, and a sharky grip that you literally lay down loose on your hand w/out any inentional/extra grip - somehow gravity-driven darts were where it started to work for me (:

[@DeanFeeneyMusic]

congrats man, I only recently got a board not played since I was a teenager, also got the red dragon darts 28g, 140 best I done over the last few weeks, getting the muscle memory up. Have u hit many 180's since?

[@R.C.Bullar]

The biggest benefit of a lightweight dart is that it will correct itself quicker ,in flight, when compared to a heavy dart. The reason is because it allows the flight to work more substantially and your darts will be straighter even with a poor release. The length plays a big factor as well. A long, heavy, setup will have the slowest correction speed. A short, light, dart will have the fastest correction speed. Good video cheers

[@notoriousjt3162]

So does your shot need to be more precise with a heavy dart? Since it has a slower correction time you need to be more accurate right off the throw, no?

[@troygrey8220]

I've searched all over KZbin for a video like this, I'm glad worldwide covered it on point 👌

[@victord9568]

After playing 24 to 25g mostly, even just switching to the 22g Darts that my brother uses gives me all sorts of trouble. Feels like I have to put way more effort in the throw, so I really can't imagine throwing something as light as 18g. Very informative video, I especially liked you giving examples on who's throwing lighter darts and vice versa!

[@graearea101]

throwing a feather isnt easy ;)

[@proclaimthepraises]

Another interesting thing to consider is the throw of Bunting vs. Searl. Bunting is very snappy (like yours worldwide) vs. Searl from my memory is much more smooth/fluid and less snappy. That in my opinion is the difference. Take Barney or the Bronze Adonis and give them heavy 28-30 gram darts, they would probably do better than a really snappy thrower like Roby or Bunting. With that said, there are obviously exceptions to my theory, as you mentioned the Asp, he has a pretty snappy throw and uses what are considered heavy darts. Great video! I prefer heavy darts all day! 25-28 grams for me please! Much love and respect from Niagara Falls Canada 🇨🇦

[@alananglo1627]

Kinda interesting how player select their dart weight reference. I think players who use light or heavier dart are special. Thanks for a nice review always stay safe

[@dfunckt]

I've gone down from 25g to 24g, 22g, then 16g, and finally tried the 12g Bunting darts and love them. Each time i stepped down the weight it felt more natural and the dart flew straighter. I also shortened the overall length as I got lighter.

[@andrevandermeij7507]

Same thing for me, started out with 24gr, stepped up to 26gr but never felt comfortable with it. Switched up to 23gr next 21gr wich felt very comfortable. To the point i wanted to try something even lighter, now rocking Red Dragon 17gr for almost a year now and it feels amazing.

[@ribletroblet]

I'm always impressed when people step to the side of the oche and reorient and still hit a 180. I feel like the quicker i throw all 3 the more accurate I am. Like the longer you wait to throw the next dart the more you lose the muscle memory of the last thrown dart and it's hard to replicate the exact same line and weight of the previous throw. Nice delayed 32g 180

[@bobbygalyon5580]

That means your technique needs work. If you have good technique with consistent accuracy then you can comfortably throw without the aid of muscle memory and momentum, those are just added bonuses when you've mastered your technique. Let's say it's the first time I stepped up to throw darts for the day and I was aiming for tremble 20,I'm most likely going to hit it with my 1st or 2nd throw but definitely within the first set I throw. I'm going to hit it, at least that's how it's been for 7yrs+ . Now if I hit it on my 1st throw, which is I'd say about 75% of the time I do, if I then walked away because I had a phone call..then after returned to throw darts, I'd more then likely hit it again my 1st throw 75% of time without the aid of the muscle memory from when I threw before I took a phone call. You should already have great existing muscle memory every time you throw..even if it's your first time throwing for the day. Its all about technique don't depend on the momentum and muscle memory from throwing quickly, it's does help but focus on technique and you'll get that muscle memory to accurately consistent at anytime, even to side step and readjust. You'll be more concerned about how to fit your darts in the triple when you have a dart that landed in a bad angle, you wont think about losing muscle memory if you step a side , because you already have muscle memory of great technique lol

[@jimmyjones6086]

You're not trained enough...

[@Wacko3jacko]

@@jimmyjones6086 Well no its whatever feels right for him look at michel smith throws his darts a lot faster then most players.

[@TheDantheman12121]

@@Wacko3jacko I agree, you get into a flow

[@See_more....]

I've been throwing 26g since I was 15, so 40 years. Always found that weight is perfect for me no matter how long I play. I once tried a friends 17g and I couldn't do anything with them, it was like throwing a cocktail stick with a flight on it.

[@Andreas8455pp]

😂😂😂

[@justinress2782]

I would generally say, Someone that has a very gentle throw would benefit from a heavier dart because it will penetrate the board deeper and will bounce out less.

[@techwood1233]

Throwing light darts made my elbow hurt after while because of the amount of effort involved in just getting them to reach the board. I found it harder to group them as it was like throwing straws

[@SuedeStonn]

Back when I was 17 and started throwing in league (1991), I was given a set of 24g darts (I still haven't found out the make/model, they're a little different from the norm, but LOVED THEM)... and the weight was just right. I threw lighter darts, and then heavier, but the 24g darts just did the trick. About 7-8 years ago, when I got back into darts, I've dropped down to 23g darts. I tried other weights but it always seemed like I had to put more muscle into lighter and heavier darts, which didn't help trying to keep accuracy. Like the gent says, let the dart do the work, not your muscles. Lighter darts will be easier to throw over the long haul, though I'm sure one can build up endurance with heavier darts if you keep throwing them more and more. I have 26g Piranha's and it don't take long to feel the extra weight, lol. *I had a buddy that didn't like any dart weight, too light... then he found some 36g harpoons. He loved them, lol. :D

[@greggsmith1612]

Excellent review as always. If I had to pick one it would be the 12g stephen bunting. That said years ago I would have said the Ryan Searle

[@deankarasinski1979]

So a lot of people don't know but in the northeast portion of the US. New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania we an alternate version called American darts, the main game is called baseball. Anyway, look it up, but those darts are wood barrels, and feather flights. They weigh 12 grams.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I've done a couple reviews of the Widdy's and will be getting an American board soon. That's where I got my start. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZobIYqGXa7x5bpI

[@sarahwelty9223]

I prefer heavier darts. For me a lighter dart is like trying to throw a pencil at the dart board. I use Red Dragon 24g and they seem to work well for me. Great video thanks for uploading.

[@WorldwideDarts]

24g is a nice weight. Kind of right in the middle. The top 32 PDC pros use a barrel that weighs 22g on average so you're slightly north of that

[@fredm5245]

I’ll be 79 soon and recently gone to a Red Dragon Firebolt, 30g. A step up from my Harrows Bombers, 27g. Previously threw 26g. I do like a heavy dart, never had a light set.

[@kevinschatte8566]

There were some excellent points in there. For me, I enjoyed the comment about letting the weight of the darts do the work, especially for someone like me, who is over 50. Also, I throw outside and breeze can be an issue. I throw 24's now but have a set of 28's also.

[@benjaminlewis2260]

What a unique throw you have. Like it.

[@alanmeasures8337]

Great vid WWD really interesting Things to think about Love the vid's Cheers.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks 👍

[@John-lz3hf]

Just got into the hobby. Very helpful video. Thanks a ton!

[@gpower]

I haven't played much in quite a few years now but, when I did play a lot, I used 25, 26g. I found those about the most natural feel for my throw. Now, for fun, I sometimes played games with those tiny Unicorn matchbox darts and, surprisingly found I could shoot ok with them.

[@deanbaza8581]

I have recently started practicing & bought some 19g darts from argos which didn't fly as i wanted & didn't feel comfortable in my hand so i went to the dart shack in Leicestershire & threw some different weights & found 25g really suited me.like you say you have to try different options ❤

[@frair4393]

stop apologising for a longer vid...ie giving us more info mate. much appreciated! also 32g for my life over 12.....but im somewhere in the middle, i prefer 21-23g barrels

[@stannelson2582]

With light darts on worn boards you will have more wire bounce outs. Nice conversation about the topic.

[@gary1961]

Throughout the late 70s and early 80s, I threw 26g. I have recently started playing again after a 30-odd year gap and I have gone up to 32g. I did try out some 14g in the dart shop and it was like throwing feathers. I just couldn't feel anything in my hand they were going all over the place.

[@Escviitash]

Weight is just one of many variables when it comes to the perfect dart. other variables such as barrel shape, stem length, flight size and grip pattern, also plays a role. which variable being the most important, depend solely on the player using them. And sometimes a slight vaiantion in one of the variables, requires a major varition in another pattern. E.g. you might have used a 23g hour glass shaped dart, but once you change to a 24g dart, it needs to be bomb shaped. I personally play with a 19g Harrows Assassin, but on occation I had to lend some 23g drop shaped darts, which surprisingly was almost as good for me, as my own darts.

[@Kasian1]

Robert Marijanovic (Robstar180 on KZbin) actually says the opposite. Over the years, he slowly went from 18 all the way up to 23 gramms saying that he looses "feel" for the darts over the course of a long match. Therefore, he needs more weight to keep that feel. Martin Schindler also said that he tried out light darts and completely lost feel for the darts when playing for a longer time. But I think it comes down to personal preferences and opinions. Every player might experience this differently. Thanks for the video!

[@WorldwideDarts]

Couldn't that also fall into what I said about what happens as players get older? They tend to start going a bit heavier.

[@edwardowen4488]

Over the years I've tried everything from 18 to 29 grams! It's down to personal preference at the end of the day and it's certainly been fun trying but I'm settled now at anything between 26 and 29g

[@WorldwideDarts]

I'm curious to know what country you're from. I have a theory that American players prefer heavier darts because they're used to playing such short formats. Typically a best of 3. UK players tend to use much lighter darts as they play much longer formats. 26 to 29 grams is on the extreme end of weight

[@edwardowen4488]

@@WorldwideDarts I'm from the UK 🇬🇧

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@edwardowen4488 So much for my dumbass theory 😂😂

[@Rockcityballs]

😂

[@kentvestin3191]

Great video! Many thanks from...SWEDEN! Game on. ❤👍

[@daveyjones5702]

i agree wholeheartedly with this. i recently bought some 12 gram darts (designa ultralites) and was surprised at how, even though they feel very different in throwing, they fly pretty much the same as my regular 24 gram darts. at least in terms of results.

[@StGeoRUSH619]

If I had to guess the weight/gram used by professionals, I would have to say, 22g. I loved this video... very informative.

[@WorldwideDarts]

You're spot on! The average barrel weight used by the top 32 PDC professional players is right at 22 grams.

[@huepix]

I went from 18 grams to 21 then 23 then 25 (with different barrels) Last few days I've gone back to the 18s and been pleasantly surprised. Practice is the most important thing. I'd love to get some coaching tho.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I talked to Bob Anderson today and he told me he won the world championship with 18g but now plays with 22g.

[@huepix]

@@WorldwideDarts I'm hitting about one 180 per day, occasionally 2, but then reverting to 85s 45s 26s etc. And the odd 7 or 9. A 5 and two triple ones is frustrating lol

[@TedBarton91]

Wayne Mardle was discussing Buntings increase the other day, as they have been for months 😂 and he suggested that perhaps Stephen just started with 12g at a young age and just stuck with it. I feel this is most likely. The majority of players don’t dive in thinking about flight shape, stem length and weight. They just throw what they have and adapt their throw around it. I started using brass pub darts as we all did, then when I was 12 I bought the most expensive darts in the Red dragon catalogue. Young me figured more money meant better darts 😂 they’re 28g and I still throw around this weight 20 years later. It’s hard to change. How you first discover and develop your throw is surely massively dependent on what you’re throwing? And once that’s locked in……..

[@geraldleuven169]

With heavier darts you need less swing speed to get the darts higher in the board because they have more momentum due to their weight.

[@jason8463]

I throw 30s so for me it's got to be the 32s personally As for which is actualy better I have found watching beginners at my local social darts club over the last few years heavyer seems to be better at least to start seems to allow better control probably because you don't have to throw them as hard to get a solid shot in the board

[@twalter735]

Awesome video, great to hear your ideas.

[@PoppaJohn82]

My son really wanted to start playing darts, so i bought a winmau board with a surround (both great quality) and i bought a couple sets of expensive harrows darts, one is 25 grams and the other is 24 grams... well, we both are doing great with the 24s, but the 25s feel heavy, and we both ger zero accuracy with them. Now i have to buy another pair of 24s for myself, and im stuck with a $75 pair of 25s, lol... so basically, if you're just starting out, i would say get the 24s or 23s. Playing darts has been great though, really fun 👍🏻

[@WorldwideDarts]

Sounds like you bought your darts in the USA. You should have bought them from Double Top Darts. 👍🏻

[@PoppaJohn82]

I bought everything from Dartshopper.. they're based out of the Netherlands 🇳🇱.

[@djstevieo]

I use Phil Taylor hen 10’s and recently added 2 grams to the barrels. It’s 29 grams total weight now and I’m playing much better.

[@traveltrainingnl2417]

Thanks man for your videos they are amazing and informative👍🏽 just a question you have a good throw btw and was wondering why you push your hand to the left before throwing? I think its similair to jelle klaasen also. Cheers man💪🏽

[@lukas1494]

This man just talks with you while hitting nearly a 180. impressive world wide, impressive 👍🏻

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks! I got a bit lucky with the last dart at 7:08

[@lukas1494]

@@WorldwideDarts nah just skill:D i would definitely pick those 12 gram darts;) I just can’t imagine throwing with over 30 grams haha

[@weriesblack1375]

I love the clock setup give us a better view on how long it took to get the 180

[@kevspencer5744]

Bob Aderson remakes by Jochen Weissmann "Old Bobs" 95% tungsten are Fantastic darts just over 18g barrels and 50mm long and only 5.6mm thick, these are the best barrels that money can buy in my opinion. My game has improved by stickig with these after trying almost every other dart that is made and in all shapes.

[@THP999]

When I first started throwing I needed a heavier dart, 26g. As I improved I went to 24 then now 22. Edit. Would like a go on the 12s.

[@Gma7788]

The internet has already educated the audience.

[@daveyjones5702]

i have decided to get a few sets at different weights just to mix it up in practice. i think it will help improve my game.

[@harveygitarista1600]

In my opinion, it is more tiring to play light darts compared to heavy darts. With light darts one has to throw with high force, on the other hand, with heavy darts one has to throw with minimal force.

[@markbryant8321]

Just to point out my mate I use nothing but 32 or over. I've got all Ryan searle darts . And HARROWS I use. Ok .I used my 40g darts in a match hit 180 plus tons . Same as for most of my darts . I'n 1970s I used brass darts . Heavy then the Eric Bristow darts come out I 26 g I think I was using then John lowe darts .but my game changed I realised I could not throw light darts. So went back to a heavy dart like I was as a teen 13 . Game changed for me . . Lovd your channel send greetings from London England carry on I support most review darts yeah so HARROWS darts lots to choose from In grams. Just to say .my latest order is with unicorn colossus see how I get on give a review as I do not thanks

[@jiwnn8705]

12g all the way! I have found I throw much better with a lighter dart.

[@iain6225]

for me, light darts fly all over the place. I need medium-weight darts. 20-22g

[@Metcraft2]

For me, With heavier darts (25+g) the bottom drops out it and darts hit lower than with a slightly lighter dart (23g)

[@naszekrobi]

I've been thinking about this "lighter darts should be better for a long playtime periods" thing. I think that lighter darts has to be thrown with bigger force, so isn't it should be more exhausting through a longer session? Never tried anything under 22g, I like 24g, tried that 32g Searle set but it is a bit overkill, so I'm looking for a Whitlock SE like 26g set. I don't want to make a quarrel, just speaking theoretically! :D Love your vids!

[@WorldwideDarts]

Professional players play in some really long formats right? The average dart weight of the top 32 PDC players is 22 grams. That's on the light side. I think a heavier dart might be easier to throw for a few turns or maybe even a couple legs of darts but over the distance I think a heavier dart will be less forgiving. My only "proof" of this is looking towards the pros. They use light darts for a reason right? If heavier darts were "better" then we'd see more of them using heavy darts. Fact is we don't.

[@keith4230]

So, the average dart is 22g, but what is the most popular (since very light or heavy darts would skew the average)

[@saitamassj2475]

Boom ;) Nice darts bruv.

[@GADAO-GAMING]

I started with a 26 and went down to a 21 to 23 grams and I feel more comfortable with my shots and more accurate

[@scottchegg3371]

Awesome video. Waiting to see one of the other KZbin dudes to review the Searles

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks! Which one?

[@scottchegg3371]

@@WorldwideDarts Scottish Lad does darts reviews been waiting for a while. Hopefully it comes soon although he told me he lost his job so he's not to sure when he will get round to them which kinda sucks because it comes across as if your in a bar talking to him about the darts, really good reviewer as well I think

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@scottchegg3371 He's improved quite a bit with his reviews. I just watched his Superdarts review from yesterday. Good stuff. 👍🏻

[@scottchegg3371]

@@WorldwideDarts yeah I saw it really digging his stuff right now deserves more credit than he's getting.

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@scottchegg3371 It's so hard nowadays as there's tons of darting KZbinrs. I think I had it easier back in the day. You either watched me or the Darts review guy or both. Not much selection so it was easier to grow a KZbin channel. Still a lot of work and effort but easier than it is now.

[@CoryJT]

👍

[@thatbeme]

Thanks

[@justinress2782]

11:50 I think he used the Darts of the OG World Champion Leighton Rees. Those are 27g. He uses 26g darts now. I don’t there are any other tour card holders at the moment except Searle that use a 27+g darts at the moment.

[@geraldhills41]

John Lowe used 21g darts , later on he used 21g but with a aluminin longer stem , which would add about another gram .

[@ENGRKEN-kw3wt]

32G will be ok I think. Subscriber here from the Philippines.

[@bblair2627]

them 2 180s were pretty damn good

[@paulsimpson2232]

Good advise sir , do you have thoughts on why we use plastic flights, which seem to be always bent .old school use to use feather type flights, would these not be better ?? You thrown better with 22g.

[@Maverick-xs6ui]

If you are fit and strong a heavy dart should not be an issue at all

[@chrisgraves9430]

Would have to be the Searle 32 gram for me as Buntings are just too short for me

[@8ballali]

Can't help thinking it might be easier to throw a lot of games with heavier darts, as you don't have to try so hard when throwing them.

[@daansaras138]

Hi. I've seen a cabinet in the back of your room, looking really nice. Can you share where you've bought it or how to made? 🙏

[@WorldwideDarts]

www.dartcraft.co.uk/ 👍🏻

[@SM0KE_0RIG1NAL]

Dart weight absolutely matters!

[@WorldwideDarts]

It's the least important aspect of darts. Dart weight is personal preference.

[@lornerichards1277]

I found what I think is my weight for darts my last 2 sets I’ve had were 24 grams and had a lot of success with them but I will try other weights

[@BigD-gx1ti]

I throw 24g I started at 19 went to 22 and now I'm at 24 sometimes I'll switch to a 22g but only if I feel like I'm losing my accuracy I'll throw about 9 to 12 darts at 22g and then switch back to my 24g darts. Don't know why but it helps me to get dialed back in

[@saitamassj2475]

My Mum played with 32's her whole career, and she played all day and night with them. She was fine. One of the best females in the world (if not the best in history) but never got the shot. Beat Australian champion A grade as a B grade in a friendly over 20 legs straight. But she never went to A grade as life happened.

[@MrSpectralio]

as a beginning player i ordered a set of darts online, so i picked 22grams because i read that was the average weight. However when i'm not warmed up i seem to be having to put in a lot of effort to reach the board. my first darts take a nosedive before they hit the board. After i'm warmed up it gets easier. But if i take a 5 minute break i have the same problem again. I used the 24g darts of my friend for a few minutes and it felt more natural to me, I think i should go for a heavier dart next?

[@WorldwideDarts]

Worth a try. There is no right or wrong when it comes to dart weight. Go with whatever feels best. Although keep in mind that some darts will feel heavier or lighter then they really are depending on barrel shape/dimensions

[@robertspencer4009]

Are you using the same grip for both sets? Are they flying the same? I find that I have a difficult time throwing heavier darts because they seem to fly sideways.

[@WorldwideDarts]

I use the same grip for just about every set I review

[@darrenwarby32]

Bunting has actually had his darts increased from 12gram to 18gram and he feels like hes playing his best darts for years .

[@collin384]

Hi I usually from eric bristow 22g... but I'm going to buy some one80 dragon darts... do you recommend the 20g (51.7mm 5.65mm, 22g (56.5mm 5.65mm or 24g 53.1mm 6.35mm ?

[@lukeemmins2306]

Deta did use 28g when she was with target but she uses a 24g now and aspinall did use a 27g when he was with showtime

[@BYGTraining]

Surprised you didn't mention Gary Anderson and Phil Taylor for players who throw with heavier darts. I loved your analysis, though!

[@WorldwideDarts]

Thanks. I think Ando uses a 22 or 23g dart doesn't he? I know Phil switched from 24 to 26g towards the end of his career.

[@nathandavies7845]

Well I've played darts for 15 years I've used the same ones ain't even changed them and they are 32g so I would pick them

[@matthewbayliss8514]

Woman in my club throws a 50gram dart Lol we call them missiles cause they make hell of a noise when they hit the board

[@SloopJohnBee-vq6dw]

I throw Red Dragon 10 gram darts. I must try 12g. Think they might be perfect for me 🤔

[@WorldwideDarts]

Check out the new 10g darts from One80. ADTS. I did a review of them recently

[@ablanuza76]

I play with 22 and 24g darts. I tried 16g darts and just couldn't get used to them no matter what setup i do.

[@lfcclub5760]

I play with 28 grams have to put alot into the throw so I bought jonny clayton 24gram

[@barty2381]

I use 28g, you definitely have to put in more effort but I can't play with lighter darts!

[@markhutchison8343]

I used to throw 18g, recently changed to 22g, now 24g.....and I'm still rubbish 😂

[@PotionSipper]

22g is the average but is it also the mean?

[@Scotty93Yellow]

You would assume heavier darts take more effort to throw?

[@WorldwideDarts]

That's been my findings. Look at the top 32 in the PDC... They use a barrel that weighs 22 grams on average. Heavy darts are not ideal to play well with over the distance. A heavy dart works for only a few select players

[@stewartneale1823]

Looks like you let them go a little easier when your engaging with the camera while throwing. Do you agree and if so, do you think being preoccupied helps with the dartitis?

[@WorldwideDarts]

I think I'm just used to talking and recording videos at the same time. It's become comfortable for me. In a way i sort of get pumped up to throw well when it comes time to record a video. I seem to throw some of my best darts when I hit record. A bit strange isn't it? But yeah, no issues with dartitis in a long time. 👍🏻

[@ashleyknight29_]

I get severe pain in my inner elbow and occasional clicks when throwing, I have only played darts a few times and love it so don’t want to give up, would a lighter dart benefit me? Or any other advice?

[@pth4959]

I had the same issue and pain with my elbow, I threw 24g for about ten years, then decided to try something lighter I'm now using 14g designa ultralights and I don't get the pain any more I can't throw the 24s any more! They feel like lead weights! Maybe grab a really cheap light set on eBay and give them a go

[@ashleyknight29_]

@@pth4959 funny enough I got some 16g Ultralights and played with them for a few weeks, then when I went back to my 24’s the pain was almost completely gone! I now switch between both sets to try and test myself!

[@daveyjones5702]

i'd go with the 12 gram darts.

[@m.o.s6275]

What is competition rulings about dart weight?? Or about flights?

[@WorldwideDarts]

40 grams max weight in the PDC

[@14mattomatto]

12g darts, i feel i have more control with a lighter dart. the heaviest I've thrown was a 26g.

[@sierraecho884]

Heavy darts can fly slower, light darts have to be thrown faster so this might influence your performance.

[@notoriousjt3162]

Is there any adjustment to getting used to a steel tip compared to a soft tip? I primarily play in bars/bar league, but I've noticed serious players use steel tips. Also, are there leagues that play with soft tips?

[@WorldwideDarts]

Yes, tons of leagues around the USA... assuming you're in the USA, that play soft tip darts. Imo the adjustment is minimal but keep in mind I test out all sorts of different darts every week so it might be a little easier for me to say that. All in all it shouldn't be too hard to adjust between steel and soft tip

[@notoriousjt3162]

@@WorldwideDarts Awesome. Thanks for the reply. I suppose, as long as the darts are the same weight they should throw pretty similar

[@darrenandrews678]

I used to throw 14 gm darts at county level

[@Motorirumori]

Need help: i tried designs smoothies 22 grams and i cant make them go high, also a 24 grams seems ok but when bit tired cant make them go high also, should i try havier or 21 grams? Idk i saw a different video with 21 grams flying higher than 23 grams, can not understand

[@twiggybeats]

i need a video of bunting using searles and searle using buntings HAHA

[@WorldwideDarts]

The PDC should make a video of that match. A best of 11 where they switch darts. One million views for sure! 👍🏻

[@chrisgraves9430]

Maybe a tournament where the draw is made every round and the players have to swap darts. I think MVG would not let anyone use his battered old faithfuls

[@trevorclapham5571]

Edger TV made a video with Ryan Searle throwing 12g darts.

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@trevorclapham5571 I like to think that this video gave them the idea 👍🏻

[@trevorclapham5571]

@@WorldwideDarts it very well could have. Not sure if you watched their vid, pretty entertaining. So was yours though.

[@NorthStarAttitudes]

I would be more comfortable with a 26-32gm dart for the rest of my life. I am 60 already. 30 years ago I threw 28gm darts very effectively, but took 25 years off a few years later. I am now throwing with a 24-26gm dart.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Curious what country you're from Mark. I have a theory...

[@NorthStarAttitudes]

@@WorldwideDarts I am from the USA. Currently in SW Virginia. I just tried some darts I had from 30 years ago. I weighed them out at 13.9gm average. They were some old Bottelsen soft tip darts with hammer head conversion points in them. With just a few minutes of playing with them I was able to manage to throw them as well as I can with heavier darts, although they didn’t go very far into my Winmau Blade5 double core board.

[@WorldwideDarts]

Okay, here's my theory. I've noticed that American players tend to use really heavy darts. I believe there's a reason for that. For the most part we only play best of 3's and most of the times it's team events like doubles. So we're only getting a turn every 45 seconds or so. Probably longer. So we can get away with heavy darts as our arms never get a chance to tire out. Now compare that to the overseas players who play longer format 501 all the time. On average the top 32 professionals use a dart barrel that weighs 22 grams on average. Maybe they prefer a lighter dart as they play really long matches and are throwing every 15-20 seconds? I've always found it odd to go to an American league or luck of the draw and see players using 28g and up. It's a very common thing as well. But as with all things darts it doesn't matter (for the most part) what sort of equipment a player uses. Ryan Searle uses 32g bombs and he's about as good as they come.

[@NorthStarAttitudes]

@@WorldwideDarts I actually play in the Dart Player Florida League (DPFL) and we play best of 13 in my bracket. In the better brackets they play up to best of 21. I don’t seem to have a problem with 24-26gm darts for that length of time.

[@WorldwideDarts]

@@NorthStarAttitudes I'm more or less talking about what we've typically seen for the last 30 years or so here in the states. All the ADO events back in the day were best of 3's. Most of them still are. Thankfully we're starting to adapt to longer formats though. 24-26g is perfect though. But there are still a ton of American players using 28g+. Lot's of knurl and a crazy amount of spinning stems too. Just part of the culture here.

[@lukeemmins2306]

Gotta be 32g for me i use the old ryan searles with a 41mm target diamond laser point phil taylor gen 6 stem and vapour s flights

[@WorldwideDarts]

I wish I could get my hands on a set of those Searle Dart Locker darts.

[@daveyjones5702]

as for women throwing heavier darts, i traded my mom's 23 gram darts for my 25 gram ones after she tried them and preferred the heavier dart.

[@kevins8386]

I'm 26 g

[@francisnieto9765]

is 1g really noticeable?...currently using 22 but most of the dart with the designs I like are only available at 23g

[@WorldwideDarts]

No, imo 1g shouldn't make any difference at all

[@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251]

I have been playing 50 years and can't throw a light dart for shit, 26 is about the right dart for me

[@moulletsmayhem2334]

Interesting