All About While Running (WR) State // Tekken 7 Guide - 108

[@fatman9183]

Not a beginner myself but always find something to learn from your videos. Good stuff

[@PeterYMao]

Hey Fatman Android. Great to hear. Yeah, I hope that even for non-beginners there's some tiny little morsel of information that is good to learn :)

[@kudjaremastered3362]

Just some fun trivia from experience; Parrying pushes (in this case Shoulders) is actually applicable in martial arts. Usually opponent's one of the two sides applies more force, and all it takes to parry it is not to interact with the shoulder or the pushing arm, but just to rotate the impacted side of torso 90 degrees back -- mitigating the force of the push against the opponent, making him slip and stagger. If done perfectly, you can usually knock them down during that time with a hook punch or grapple.

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks for the Trivia!

[@actiasinflight7491]

Ngl I thought I wouldn't have to watch this but I learned more then I thought I would!

[@PeterYMao]

Hey man, great to hear you got something out of it :D

[@Dextrous90]

Really good breakdown. Best WR breakdown out there, hands down. Great job!

[@PeterYMao]

Glad you enjoyed ^_^

[@Tanookz]

Are you gonna do a video on wake up options? Waking up safely is one of the things I struggle with the most.

[@PeterYMao]

Hey Tanookz. It's on my list.

[@mccollio0909]

I've just ( 17:20 re)watched all this series 6 months later. It's crazy how the first time I was like, on I understand, and now I'm solid orange/ red rank with some characters, I'm like ooooh, now I REALLY understand

[@JaroslavasWalherich]

I do WR2 all the time but I came here because of you not the subject.

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks man :)

[@EazyWarrior]

And I...... 🤤😮😲😫🤯🥴😵🥳 came too. 🥰

[@ssbbc2561]

Great guide .. Very few video like this on universal modes for people here to tekken

[@PeterYMao]

I'm happy it was helpful to you :)

[@VapidZero]

I have a theory about how the game reads the inputs during the WR state that kind of revolves around a common input error. If you play a character that uses a dash up into B+(x) input, like bryan dash up B+3 into crouch dash, or steves dash up to iFLK 1 1 ALB 2, or dash up into B+3 for jin, a common problem is getting WR moves. So the error is getting slash kick instead of dash up B+3 F 4 1 2 for bryan as an example. Although in any other state, nuetral/SS/SW, if you input B+(x) at the literal same time, the game will give you that move. For some strange reason however, if the game reads you as being in the WR state, instead of getting your dash up B+(x) move, the game will give you a WR move if it exists, completely ignoring the B input. In order to avoid this error, you have to basically input an additional B input for the game to give you your desired dash up into B+(x) input. It's almost like when the game considers you in the WR state, it eats a command automatically, punishing you basically for not having additional "sloppy" inputs. So perhaps paul getting F F+3 when he hits 3 from WR state is because the game reads the input as F F F+3, that move does not exist, and since the system ignores an input if you aren't doing a WR move during the WR state, you get F F+3. And in order to not get accidental slash kicks when doing dash up into B+(X) moves, you have to have the input read as B B+3 F 4 1 2 instead of what could be considered more "clean" input of B+3 F 4 1 2, because that isn't a WR move and the game will eat that first B input. This is kinda important to figure out, particularly for things like some of steve's max optimization combos that you do dash up iFLK's during. You have to kinda teach yourself to hold B sooner than you would if you were doing something like the iFLK into WS+1 cancel for the shiro combo which needs to be done as clean and fast as possible, or you'll just dash up and get a ALB spin since the game would eat the B input and just spit out 3+4 by itself. This might be wrong but it's as close to making sense of this particular issue as I've gotten to, would love to hear if anyone else has done any looking into this particular topic.

[@PeterYMao]

So from my experience with Bryan since I've ran across this many times with b+3 what happens is that if b+3 is pressed at the exact same time during a WR, you get a WR+3. This I 100% agree with you on. But if you press the b+3 slightly before the 3 you get b+3. As I said in the video, any directional input will cancel the run, however in the case of pressing the button at the exact same time it does appear that the game only sees that the 3 was pressed and not the b input that is attached to the 3 (Again we are on the same page with this one). Game doesn't recognize the b. You don't need to press b, twice to get b+3. However, holding b does also seem to work as well to eliminate the WR+3. I regards to Paul's WR+3 giving f,F+3 is strange. I would be temped to agree with your theory regarding how if a move doesn't exist it defaults to a f,F input instead of f,f,f. However, with Akuma... he doesn't have a WR+2, but the game does not default Akuma's WR+2 to f,F+2 which he does have, and the same case as Bryan with his f,F+2. The game defaults it to standing 2, not f,F+2. So currently, I think we are both still stumped and confused on this matter O_O

[@VapidZero]

@@PeterYMao I guess execution in Tekken is a cruel mistress who is meant to be loved, not understood T__T great vid, cant wait to see you do one on the taunt series :O

[@PeterYMao]

@@VapidZero cruel mistress indeed, cruel mistress. Hahaha. Yup man! Stay tuned.

[@Othman_ai]

What up what up im happy to see you upload again sir

[@PeterYMao]

Happy to see you comment ^.^

[@Light-Z-g4p]

I love your videos they have some rare informations I never knew before!

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks!

[@darkbryan912]

nice bro)) and thanks for a Excellent content)) and im waiting for more))

[@PeterYMao]

:D definitely man

[@iknz1]

Thanks a lot for another great video Peter! By the way, I sadly cannot support the patreon monthly, but if you set a donations page I'll be sure to help whenever I can.

[@PeterYMao]

Thanks so much for simply thinking about donating. It means a lot to me that people even consider the idea of it :)

[@BillysKiller7]

Thank god they made the running shoulder blockable in T7. Do you know what a pain in the ass this move is in T6 and Tag2?

[@PeterYMao]

Hehe, I started with Tekken 3 so I can imagine. Hahaha

[@BillysKiller7]

Its basically a free unblockable 😂

[@justaotter2085]

I KNOW RIGHT , damn its so fast for a unblockable lol

[@Dextrous90]

0:46 OWIE!

[@PeterYMao]

Double OWIE!

[@taimoorsubhani1606]

Loved the vid and waiting for Bryan vid

[@PeterYMao]

For sure, more to come.

[@piratekingmurz1067]

Nice video! Steve doesn't have a leg slide however, he does have a WR low that is done at the same range by pressing 1. It doesn't put him in a grounded state but it does have low crush properties.

[@PeterYMao]

Yup! For sure!

[@melvinshine9841]

I feel so vindicated learning the shoulder charge *was* unblockable, previously. I got hit by so many of those damn things in Tag 2 and now I know why. Having no real understanding of how to actually play Tekken against humans back then played a part, too.

[@PeterYMao]

Yup! I think having shoulder charge be blockable is a nice change :)

[@Captain_Mcdobber]

WR 3 with paul is a beast 💪💪👌

[@PeterYMao]

Yeah it is. So many different options out of it.

[@ItzTayMan-_-]

Thank you for this

[@PeterYMao]

You are very welcome Taizen!

[@addydiesel6627]

I can't increase distance between characters more than 6.9 in practice mode therefore I can't practice running shoulder. Is this feature still available?

[@PeterYMao]

This feature is still available. I wouldn't personally "practice" running shoulder. It's an option you can go for when the opponent is knocked very far away from a move that provides heavy heavy knockback effects. I would say almost every character can do running shoulder. You just have to make sure to tap f,F very quickly and hold the 2nd forward input. Make sure the character is at max distance.

[@addydiesel6627]

@@PeterYMao good to know it's available. Thanks for the tips and awesome videos 👍

[@KolbenTK]

could you do a video on wakeups? or getting off the ground? ya make these things alot more understandable to my small pea sized brain

[@PeterYMao]

Absolutely man! It was already part of my plan that I made 2 months ago.

[@KolbenTK]

@@PeterYMao OMG I'm super flattered :3 keep up the good work!

[@PeterYMao]

@@KolbenTK :) Quality won't go down. I don't enjoy discarding quality for quantity.

[@lolnight0]

Wow that low attack is plus on block

[@PeterYMao]

You mean the trample? Yeah, surprising isn't it?

[@lolnight0]

@@PeterYMao it is

[@ZakkPL]

If Im not mistaken the tackle can be reversed on startup animation by presing 1+2

[@PeterYMao]

ZakkPL yup. I’m going to do a whole section on tackles.

[@shehrozgnabi462]

Great video sir.. Can you plz make one how to deal with mixup?? Especially slide,hellsweep and paul demoman.. And i want to learn how to counter them,not punish them. Thank u

[@PeterYMao]

I'll keep it in mind. But as a quick answer to dealing with hellsweep from Kazuya (SSL / SWL). Demoman, just make sure you're not at range 0 and the demo man does not get a clean hit. Other than that, there are no quick answers with dealing with those types of 50/50.

[@extrafrisch5023]

Good Shit my Guy ^^

[@PeterYMao]

^_^ Always trying to provide the best of shits. Hahaha

[@coinalmanac]

will you upload your online matches, itll be interesting to watch

[@PeterYMao]

Currently, I don’t have the most time with online matches. Between content creation, and family stuff, I don’t have the most time to play online matches, but if there is more interest in my online matches I can do it. Just hard to find the time :P

[@coinalmanac]

also King's WR 3 is hopping knee or smth like that

[@PeterYMao]

Yeah, you’re right. Smart man!

[@christoffelsymbol1631]

9:31 you need coconut sized balls in order to charge xiaoyu like this

[@taimoorsubhani1606]

👍

[@PeterYMao]

Thumbs up to you sir! :)

[@savezshabkhez7863]

If the shoulder is +13 on block, does that mean they get a free jab string even on block?

[@toyos6969]

they get a free mixup if u just block it, movement is usually not recomended above +8 frames for most characters but nothing that comes after is guaranteed u can try to react to their next move after blocking the shoulder

[@chillysprout480]

How do I learn a matchup?

[@PeterYMao]

I will go over that once I cover a few more beginner topics. Stay tuned ^.^

[@chillysprout480]

@@PeterYMao Thanks I'm looking forward to it.

[@birrrree]

:)

[@PeterYMao]

:D