All About Your Engines Oil Pump

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Uncle Tony's Garage

Uncle Tony's Garage

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@gcaprice406
@gcaprice406 2 жыл бұрын
It totally baffles me how you are able to make videos that are so simple about common things like oil pumps that nobody else talks or writes about. Easily my most valued subscription.
@TA_Plus_Hemi
@TA_Plus_Hemi 2 жыл бұрын
I soaked in Deep Purple for a few hours when I was a kid. I was never the same again
@KamiruNusbaum
@KamiruNusbaum 2 жыл бұрын
In my case, the stuck bypass valve in the oil pump, caused massive spike in oil pressure, so it searched for the next weak link - namely the oil filter gasket. At first I tought it was a faulty oil filter, but after third one, I figured that something is wrong. After I took the pump apart, the clearences were spot on, just the valve would not budge.
@kdsboosted4954
@kdsboosted4954 2 жыл бұрын
In one of my builds I had installed 4 high vol/pressure pumps. In each case I had good pressure for about 2 minutes then pressure fell off. At that point I was thinking I had internal engine issues. Pulled the engine built another and inspected the old engine to find no issues. Turns out stuck bypass now I just assume the pump has to be serviced before installing.
@superdupergrover9857
@superdupergrover9857 2 жыл бұрын
This particular circumstance is specifically mentioned in oil filter catalogs (CarQuest at least)
@alanmeyers3957
@alanmeyers3957 2 жыл бұрын
Did your filter blow like a beer can?
@KamiruNusbaum
@KamiruNusbaum 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanmeyers3957 Nah, it wasn't that bad, but the oil was everywhere in the engine bay. Not to mention the pavement around my car.
@norcore8504
@norcore8504 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most informative videos I've ever watched.
@oldtimerf7602
@oldtimerf7602 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!!! I for one prefer these basic tech vids over the stuff like economy or trivia. More please!
@ericdran9181
@ericdran9181 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! and Let the JunkYard Jet Guy's Do their own thing. If Your not building it, we don't care.
@perfection742
@perfection742 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve looked and always wondered how an oil pump works and what makes one high volume. Thank you for the information. Most deff appreciate you taking the time to put out good information.
@natevanlandingham1945
@natevanlandingham1945 2 жыл бұрын
A High volume oil pump puts out more volume than a standard oil pump. For example a small block Chevy HV pump will pump about 25% more oil than a standard Volume. If the engine can't take the excess volume it just bleeds off the excess in a bypass. Also take a bit more HP to turn them, as the gears are taller which is how they pump more volume.
@natevanlandingham1945
@natevanlandingham1945 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I miss read your post "I always wondered what..." Thought you asked what made one HV.
@jeremypike9153
@jeremypike9153 2 жыл бұрын
You should see how a dual stage pump works. Most engines made in the last 5 years can change volume and pressure when commanded to by the PCM. 7-10 psi at idle and 70-100 at redline. Great for fuel economy as a fluid pump creates alot of parasitic drag on an engine. Which is why pretty much all new cars use electric steering racks and variable oil pumps.
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 2 жыл бұрын
So did I
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 2 жыл бұрын
Volume is longer gears, pressure is stronger spring
@garymatthys3605
@garymatthys3605 2 жыл бұрын
There are some early (60s Buicks for one) engines that do require the oil pump to be packed to avoid a dry start after a rebuild. They will hold prime after that though.
@brucesherrill4116
@brucesherrill4116 2 жыл бұрын
70's 350 Buick engines need the oil pump primed when new gears have been installed brand new too.
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps dose them with, say, a teaspoon of straight 50 (or higher weight) oil?
@bigassfordsd
@bigassfordsd 2 жыл бұрын
same with AMC v8's. Those are external pumps, and they are not gerotor (sp?) pumps. I know from experience that AMC pumps are just 2 gears. I was told to use vaseline in them
@garymatthys3605
@garymatthys3605 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigassfordsd Ya, I think that's what the Buicks are, Oldsmobile too. Gear pumps not 'gerotor'.
@stevedresen8497
@stevedresen8497 2 жыл бұрын
Yup... been there... had a used pump (on that Buick V-8) would not re-prime with oil! Had to be primed with petroleum jelly. Lesson learned.
@casenumber8799
@casenumber8799 4 күн бұрын
I really appreciate how you make mechanical processes understandable and relevant. Thanks.
@rogueart7706
@rogueart7706 2 жыл бұрын
Wierd that I’m making an oil pump for my model engine and this pops up. I’m glad that I watched this because I never thought about a much-needed bypass. Thanks Tony you are the man.
@coltenlang7910
@coltenlang7910 2 жыл бұрын
As a younger guy that didn’t get the opportunity to grow up around these old school vehicles these videos are honestly really very helpful
@davenhla
@davenhla 2 жыл бұрын
I feel obligated to make a comment about this for the Oldsmobile guys. If you are building the latr Olds big blocks, 425/455, please keep in mind they were designed to run at what is considered a low RPM now days. People will say Olds have oiling issues. What actually happens in the drainback is too slow. Many times, people will do tings to allow these engines to spin faster. The average engine builder will also recommend a higher volume pump, which they do for everything really. Unfortunately, with the way the Olds oil passages are, it is possible the combination of a higher RPM and a higher volume pump will pump the pan empty and the oil will all be up in the valvetrain trying to make it's way back to the pan. This isn;t super common, but I have heard about this happening to people, where their barnd new rebuilt HiPo 455 had an oiling issue and had a break down. When they look into it, they can;t find anything wrong with the pan, pick up, or oil pump. I am pretty sure Dr. Olds himself has some videos on youtube about it, he devised some modifications to help with the oiling design of the Olds BB. Long story short: Olds guys, do your homework before deciding on a combo for your BB! Sometimes the high volume pump is worse!
@captainjohnh9405
@captainjohnh9405 2 жыл бұрын
As one of the newbies, I LOVE this type of video. Good to see you throwing one in now and then like you did in your early days. Oh, and bring back the stunt carb!!!
@100amps
@100amps Жыл бұрын
I always use Deep Purple when I clean my oil pump pickup. Highway Star, Smoke on the Water, Space Truckin', as loud as possible.
@larryreagan6936
@larryreagan6936 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody needs to watch this video! thank you for clearing up the confusion between the standard volume, high volume, and high pressure pumps! there's an age old confusion associated with em. Great video as always!
@jason86768
@jason86768 2 жыл бұрын
I had an oil pump seize up in a ford 400 v8 once. Old, maybe original, timing gears had vinyl coated teeth. The vinyl started falling off, and the oil pump managed to suck up a small piece of it. Squished the vinyl flat before seizing up. The 3/8" allen/hex driveshaft twisted around partially, but didn't break. The teeth on the camshaft & distributor gears got chewed up in the process, also shearing the pin holding the distributor gear in place on its shaft. I was already planning an engine swap, and didn't want to invest a bunch of money into fixing the 400 properly. So I cleaned up the oil pump, swapped in a spare distributor gear, new timing gears & chain, set the timing, cleaned the oil pan and changed the oil & filter, and hoped for the best. It's been running fine ever since! Better actually, without the timing slop. It's still gonna come out though.
@ManyTailedFox
@ManyTailedFox 2 жыл бұрын
You were right, UT. It was the bypass getting stuck. Took it out, cleaned it and stuck it back in. Spun it, made like 22-24 PSI on the drill.
@eddiehuff7366
@eddiehuff7366 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx Uncle Tony for another basic lesson. :) Actually after 25 years working maintenance in a chemical factory I consider myself an expert on pumps. Scoring definitely has a huge effect on pump efficiency.
@billjones9292
@billjones9292 2 жыл бұрын
An exception to packing the pump with grease is with the aviation engines with their huge clearances, low compression, low RPM operating range. One additional thing you can do when blueprinting an oil pump is reducing the clearance between the pump cover and the gears: target of around 0.002 inches of clearance. A flat surface, a piece of fine sand paper and figure 8 motion until the desired clearance is achieved. Keep ‘em coming Tony!
@eddiehill5535
@eddiehill5535 6 ай бұрын
Great video with an excellent instructor. Been in the aviation maintenance business for years, so i well know to have an effective session of instruction you have to have a guy like this. The problem today is these kids don't understand the systems. Please do more videos like this as i too am learning.
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the oil pump shaft on a SBF is the Achilles heel of it in my opinion... I put an aftermarket shaft in them even if it is a stock type build! Good video..
@reaper20015
@reaper20015 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the long Allen key waa. Always fun to see them twisted like a pretzel.......in somebody else's engine.
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 2 жыл бұрын
Andy be keeping an eye on UT 👀
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@baby-sharkgto4902 Always!
@ericneering6357
@ericneering6357 8 ай бұрын
You’re always such a great teacher every time I watch your video. I never have any questions. Good job.
@Oldcarnut63
@Oldcarnut63 2 жыл бұрын
As simple as the oil pump is , this was still very informative Thanks UT.
@Lancaster604
@Lancaster604 2 жыл бұрын
If Uncle Tony does a whole series of lectures on basic automotive technology, I'll watch every one of them. Beats 99% of stuff on KZbin.
@charleselertii6187
@charleselertii6187 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle Tony. Good job. I learned a lot. The next oil system video vould be about the downstream component, the oil filter. Check valve diaphram, silicone or rubber. What engines have bypass valves in the filter or not. Filter media and pleat count, etc. Good quality filters vs. Cheap ones, etc. Thanks.
@joshpodolsky7740
@joshpodolsky7740 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, that could make a very good educational video.
@jhutch1470
@jhutch1470 2 жыл бұрын
Project Farm did a video on oil filters. I think you might like it.
@robsmith7681
@robsmith7681 2 жыл бұрын
Love the info uncle Tony. I watch all the time, like a lot of videos, but I dont comment often. I appreciate everything you share with us.
@ProjectFairmont
@ProjectFairmont 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, comprehensive video. My cure for the common Ford oil pump shaft: SBF - hardened Melling or ARP BBF - hardened Melling
@MotoDeSoto
@MotoDeSoto 2 жыл бұрын
I like these tech videos Tony. Well done. I understand the need for a high volume pump on an engine with looser clearances, like a race engine. Can you explain the advantage of a high pressure pump? The down side would be a little bit of additional power losses, but what is the up side? Thanks.
@shvrdavid
@shvrdavid 2 жыл бұрын
The only advantage of a high pressure oil pump is in an engine with an extremely bad oiling system design. The downsides can be from priority, bearing surface area and speeds, etc. Very few engines need a high volume pump, far less need a high pressure pump. On the majority of engines neither high volume or high pressure are needed, they are simply band aids for something else that needs addressed. There are racing applications that use high pressure pumps but they also use dry sump systems. Adding volume and or pressure is usually not the best idea for many reasons, rockers starve for oil because the oil sprayed over them, drain back and pooling issues, not pulling heat away, rupturing the oil filter (that will quickly destroying the engine...), etc. The proof, is that neither design is used in most stock engines, even high output ones making crazy power. There are a few acceptations to that rule and when you look how the oiling system is laid out you can see why they band aided it with a pump design.... Controlling the oil is far more important than volume or high pressure. Both of those pump upgrades make controlling the oil much harder. Simply installing an upgrade pump does nothing to address any of the issues they introduce. What most people wont actually tell you is that a stock pump will do fine as long as you don't starve it for oil. I have used stock pumps in deep pans with accusump's for years and not had oiling issues, even at crazy power levels.
@aygwm
@aygwm 2 жыл бұрын
The “pressure” is not created by the pump. The pressure is created by bearing clearances.
@scatpack68
@scatpack68 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crazy8ts demonstrate for us how over a gallon of oil can be suspended against gravity. The only way pressure will drop is if the proper level is low and the return passages are all but clogged. I have a hv pump in my 440 and never "starved" for oil from 800-5000 rpm.
@shvrdavid
@shvrdavid 2 жыл бұрын
@@scatpack68 In theory you would think that oil would be pulled by gravity back into the pan, but sadly it is not always the case. Put a stud girdle on the mains in your 440, and suddenly you will have massive oil control issues with a high pressure pump at the rpms you are running. Go to 8k, and the HV over about 60 psi, it will start to show issues with .0035 mains. Why? The windage... There is far more to it than gravity...
@scatpack68
@scatpack68 2 жыл бұрын
@@shvrdavid #1 there's no reason to go past 5k rpm in a stock 440 mag, #2 these engines all came with a windage tray for a reason.
@garymcphee8284
@garymcphee8284 2 жыл бұрын
Wished this post was put up a couple of months ago. I have just replaced my chains and tensioners in my Australian Ford Falcon modular 5.4 32 valve XR8. I replaced the filter with one that has billet gears even though I do not flog the motor. Oil pump came supplied with some kind of clear grease inside it. I have noticed that the idling pressure appears to be a bit lower than the old one. And running pressure is lower even though you stated in another post that 7psi per 1000rpm is ok.
@StefanRügamer
@StefanRügamer 18 күн бұрын
Great viedeo! thanks Tony! still when you think you know a lot of oil pumps see this video you still will learn something new.
@travist3379
@travist3379 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to revisit the filter relationship, and mention that a long pull on a 5qt pan with a high volume pump can suck a pan dry, but good accurate info.
@grantodamax
@grantodamax 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tony you said you cleaned the strainer with Deep Purple. Im just curious what led you to clean strainers with a 70s British rock music band? I am going to try this out but how do I properly use Deep purple to clean with? Do i just play any song at the strainer? Is there a particular song that works better? How far should my speakers be, or should i use headphones? I was planning on playing smoke on the water at my strainer but was unsure as child in time seems like it could be a better fit. Thanks for what you do and have a nice day!
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 2 жыл бұрын
Highway star, of course
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS 2 жыл бұрын
USe Iron Butterfly instead
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 2 жыл бұрын
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS iron butterfly is for carb tuning... get it right man!
@ChicagoSkyliners
@ChicagoSkyliners 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video. My 280zx has low oil pressure at idle and when the oil gets hot, the electric fuel pump turns off to protect the engine. Before I try a high pressure pump, I think I will try a high pressure spring. Great info!
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 2 жыл бұрын
I like to put a bit of Lucas in the pump when building the engine, a bit of Lucas and oil, Chevy pumps, with steel pinned drive shaft, the Lucas being so sticky it primes very easily, I always use a new oil pump, and pickup, and when I have the pan off a older engine, I go with a new pump and pick-up! Like you say it's dirty oil and can wear, the 94, 454 I bought. I had checked. The bearings, and new pump, and timing chain, come to learn, it only had about 50k miles on it, but toting a motorhome is no easy life! It sounds great with air gap rpm intake and long tube headers! But it's a truck cam, and probably done by 4k rpm, great video
@Patbooth1798
@Patbooth1798 11 ай бұрын
Forty plus years and he is Right on in all the engines I have worked on at the dealership and at home, Great gob! some one had to do it just keep it up Thank You!!
@ec5838
@ec5838 2 жыл бұрын
These type of videos are my absolute favorite... solid information that helps us all out so much, thanks!!
@WalksInThunder
@WalksInThunder 2 жыл бұрын
Most mechanics I know of prime the oil pump before they put the distributor in to make sure the engine is lubed before startup. It also lets you know what the pressure is.
@superrodder2002
@superrodder2002 2 жыл бұрын
yup, I've had my knuckles smashed against the firewall more than once priming an engine. You have to be ready for when the pump starts building pressure or it can twist a powerful drill out of your hands
@WalksInThunder
@WalksInThunder 2 жыл бұрын
@@superrodder2002 Ouch 🤕 Mechanics gloves is a thought.....
@dukainmanning7246
@dukainmanning7246 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a 2000 Jeep Cherokee, 282000+ miles. Well, it was that time to replace the rear oil seal, might as well replace the oil pump too. It's a Melling high volume pump. Talk about a night and day difference on the pressure.
@allanmcelroy9840
@allanmcelroy9840 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony. You are possibly the only and definitely the first I've seen to explain auto oil pumps. Now I know!
@dallasbramwell6235
@dallasbramwell6235 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you uncle Tony a very educational video on oil pumps you have an old school of knowledge.🇺🇲🚗🚙
@joeclark7082
@joeclark7082 2 жыл бұрын
deep Purple! Tony, that is a band from the early 70's. you crack me up. they had some great hits
@deankay4434
@deankay4434 Жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony, you are correct on each point, right on brother. It is a missed opportunity to add oil accumulators. There is a huge discussion going on about the but it all comes down to how the vehicle is driven. Plus the new wrinkle is the "Stop / Start" technology being employed. I truly come that era where we rebuilt everything and I can't stand the idea that someone is going to have the same starter life, flex plate life or bearing wear as they did without these systems as a 4 cylinder is going to stop at the same location (Plus / Minus 3 teeth) and take it from there! DK, Omaha. ASE Master Tech, retired.
@TheGforcead
@TheGforcead 2 жыл бұрын
YOu did good on this one, shiming the springs, good stuff. One thing you didn't touch on is the gears are pressed on slant six, a peice of grit/metal get in there it will spin the rotor off the shaft. I have welded the gear on the shaft. it wasn't bad, you just have to plane the weld down so it works against the plate. Its a close tolerance, and you can lose pressure so be sure to use care machining it down after you welld it
@randallwhite9015
@randallwhite9015 3 ай бұрын
A true teacher, a gift not many have
@Thundarr995
@Thundarr995 2 жыл бұрын
About 20 years ago my neighbor/friend had a HV pump in his 350 Corvette. It pumped too much oil to the top end of the engine and caused cavitation. It seriously damaged the bottom end. I used 7qt pan & a HV pump in my Camaro. I never had any problems with mine doing that. He had a standard capacity pan. I can't remember what brand of pump I used. I believe it was a melling with a Summit pickup welded on. I took it apart before I installed it and it had white grease inside it.
@mastmec
@mastmec 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos, really like the technical ones, but getting back to the basics are helpful, in remembering stuff and even learning a different way. Keep them coming.
@Slugg-O
@Slugg-O 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much UT for explaining this. I learned more in 14 minutes about oil pumps than I have in 20 years because everyone I've talked to has had a different opinion or theory, and especially for HV and HP pumps. This got me thinking. Say you buy a classic car or truck with 100K miles and it runs good but doesn't look like the engine was taken care of. Instead of just doing a tune up and changing fluids pull and inspect the pump for signs of grit or abrasion. Even though a worn pump could still make pressure it might not be making what it should. I've known guys who say 10 PSI at idle is okay because the engine is worn when in fact it could be a good engine with a a worn pump. Replace the pump and you restore proper lubrication and maybe extend the life of that motor.
@christophertorres8265
@christophertorres8265 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you uncle tony, for passing along all this knowledge!
@bunning63
@bunning63 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the Rover V8 was known as an engine that needed the pump packed or it doomsday, it would never prime. Even an oil change, swap the filter first then drop the oil. The problem could even occur if the vehicle had been sitting a longtime. I had in the past used a pressure sprayer hooked up to oil pressure fitting to prime them. Sure someone will mention other Buicks that were similar. Incidentally never seen issues with the Vasaline, but like I mentioned, you can use a pressure sprayer.
@wobbles7915
@wobbles7915 2 жыл бұрын
The rover v8 and Buick V8s are closely related if you know your auto history. Might explain some of that
@garymcphee8284
@garymcphee8284 2 жыл бұрын
@@wobbles7915 Correct. I had a Rover SD1 V8 in my Toyota Celica and I purchased a manual which stated that Rover V8 is based Buick.
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 2 жыл бұрын
Is the Rove a gear pump or the type shown here.
@bunning63
@bunning63 2 жыл бұрын
@@wobbles7915 Buick 215.
@bunning63
@bunning63 2 жыл бұрын
@@mpetersen6 Gear.
@MoparDan
@MoparDan 6 ай бұрын
On the Pentastar engine a chain-driven, vane-type variable displacement oil pump adjusts the flow rate and pressure as commanded by the engine management system, which uses a solenoid to drive the pump into low or high pressure mode. For example, below 3,500 rpm, the pump conserves energy by using low pressure; at speeds over 3,500 rpm, the pump switches to high pressure. A force balance mechanism inside the oil pump adjusts the size of the pumping chambers to alter oil flow.
@HappyDayGarage
@HappyDayGarage 11 ай бұрын
Very informative video on simple yet so important basics! I'll be removing the oil pump on my Ford V6 and now know exactly what to expect and inspect! Thank you!
@cactuscanuck6802
@cactuscanuck6802 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Uncle T touched on something from my HD mechanic school days... very simply, pre-lube every component with the same fluid it will be exposed to while operating normally. In addition, always follow the installation instructions provided with the component. It's that easy.
@jessebianchi2631
@jessebianchi2631 2 жыл бұрын
"instructions! i don't need no stinking instructions". much work, head scratching and possibly a few thrown tools later, "now, where are them stinking instruction. hope i didn't throw them away.". anecdote from my personal experience.
@cactuscanuck6802
@cactuscanuck6802 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessebianchi2631 hahaha, too true brother!
@bouncingsoul777
@bouncingsoul777 2 жыл бұрын
The basic tech stuff is some of your best stuff. I know most of it, but still learn something from many of them.
@roblack1000
@roblack1000 2 жыл бұрын
I had one pump that wouldn’t prime. I took off the oil filter and used a shop Vac to suck some oil through the pump which then allow the pump to prime.
@imskeptic1
@imskeptic1 2 жыл бұрын
These kinds of videos are very informative, hope to see more like this. Once again, you have shown me things that I did not know. Thank you.
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 2 жыл бұрын
I built my first car engine when I was 12-13, years old, that was such longer ago than I want to think, before that it was a couple. Small engines, and a good bit of tinkering, with alot of stuff, it was a few years before OBD-2 , I used to use a high volume pump, but figured, unless you have looser than stock clearances, higher volume is just eating more power!
@billarroo1
@billarroo1 2 жыл бұрын
On a 63 Mercury comet I had an oil pump jam up and twist off the distributor to oil pump shaft, because of 1 "little" piece of carbon that got sucked into the oil pump gears. about 1/16" piece about the size of a grain of sand ! Great tutorial, Thanks
@fasttoys99
@fasttoys99 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos UT. Back to HVAC tech. The oil that comes into the pump is pushed Into the pump by atmospheric pressure. If you think about a very cold day up at 10,000 elevation. That oil is really struggling to get into the pump.
@michaelben1976
@michaelben1976 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your time in making these videos. Your experience shows.
@Toguro-oy3ld
@Toguro-oy3ld 2 жыл бұрын
Deep Purple, I used to have their greatest hits on cassette. Great info on oil pumps.
@chiefdabejo2120
@chiefdabejo2120 2 жыл бұрын
This man is as real as it gets. Great video! Edit: This is what hands on experience gets you boys. The difference between Intelligence and Wisdom!
@siliconvalleyengineer5875
@siliconvalleyengineer5875 Жыл бұрын
wow I learned what I needed to know about the oil pumps, thank you Tony !
@JOHNKESSLER88
@JOHNKESSLER88 2 жыл бұрын
Melling is the only brand of oil pump i use in engine rebuilds and never had an issue.I do mostly fords and the drive shafts are so flimsy,always replace them with a Melling or ARP shaft even if its a stock rebuild.If any of you reading this have Fords the shaft will twist off with the engine still running with no oil pressure (If the pump locks up) If you use a hardened shaft it will shear off the pin in the distributor and the engine will shut off saving it.
@burnychaplin4601
@burnychaplin4601 2 жыл бұрын
The Ford's have a shaft like a 5/16 Allen wrench if I remember right the last one I built was in a old square bronco 302 2barrel bore job new Pistons cam lifters and valve job went back stock they run that thing in the mud till the sides fell off the body 👍
@wickedlou9
@wickedlou9 2 жыл бұрын
Had this exact thing happen to me with my 92 mustang. oil pump was binding, not totally seized. It still spun the gear on the distributor shaft. Somehow it didn't spin it totally off. Not knowing what had happened I managed to limp the car home a mile with timing retarded 40 degrees ATDC. The engine is now out of the car for a refresh.
@JOHNKESSLER88
@JOHNKESSLER88 2 жыл бұрын
@@wickedlou9 That's amazing it ran in that state,the OE 5.0 engines use an aluminum oil pump housing while the Melling replacement is cast iron and beefy.Part number M-68 is a standard volume pump for any small block ford. ARP 154-7904 is the drive shaft.
@davidpowell6271
@davidpowell6271 5 ай бұрын
Thankyou greatly, a very clear and educational explanation.
@ronosga4391
@ronosga4391 2 жыл бұрын
With the quality of parts today you should always disassemble a new pump and inspect it, you will find chips of metal and all sorts of garbage. Also the sign of a stuck closed relief valve is an exploding oil filter. I have always wanted a side by side comparison of the gear style and gerator style pumps, longevity, amount of power needed to run them and a performance comparison.
@pete540Z
@pete540Z 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, Tony. One thing you left out of blueprinting is to make sure the clearance between the gears and the body is tight. Usually about 0.002-0.004". If it's more than that, take out the gears, put some 400 grit on a piece of glass and do the figure 8 sanding pattern on the cover surface of the body to shorten it. Also, do the sanding of the cover (especially after you weld the pickup tube to the cover) until it's flat. I also radius the edges of the passage openings to reduces turbulence of the oil.
@DonnieIngram
@DonnieIngram 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video that mentioned not to weld the pickup tube to the oil pump most oil pumps are cast therefore it will eventually break from the weld. Just thought I’d share made since but then again I wouldn’t know myself.
@pete540Z
@pete540Z 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonnieIngram I actually prefer to use an aftermarket bracket to ensure the pickup doesn't come off, over welding.
@JO753
@JO753 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT video! I woct 2 about the 440 oil pump befor this and they were useless. (including vasaline) Now I finally know I need a hi volume pump on my old 440 due to low presssure after it warmz up.
@codyedgington6852
@codyedgington6852 2 жыл бұрын
On sbc years ago we would cut the bypass spring and stretch it back to size for out "high flow" lol
@jeffreyzabawski4862
@jeffreyzabawski4862 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know a lot about cars but I know a little, so I really enjoy videos like this on your Channel.
@charlesgould8436
@charlesgould8436 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a 93Sonoma 4.3:) and a 2.8 s10. Both seemed to have a Guage issue and read low at idle and correct oil psi with even a little throttle.they also leaked oil.
@29madmangaud29
@29madmangaud29 2 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahah, yeah Tony, I can tell you, some 30 yrs ago, I had my friend, my Mechanic in Mexico. I brought to him all of the parts to "rebuild" my 1953 Chevy, 216 cu in inline 6 cyl parts, but I didn't buy an OIL PUMP. My mechanic tells me, hey Marcelo you didn't bring me an oil pump? I told him, "oh , it doesn't need it, the oil presure was FINE". He told me,........... "look, if I'm going to be going into this engine so deeply, you need to bring me a NEW OIL PUMP, doesn't matter if you say it didn't need it, I'm going to put in a NEW oil pump. Otherwise, all of the other parts are going to be NEW and the oil pump will be old, and it's the WEAK LINK, and it'll break , right away! You go get me/bring to me a NEW OIL PUMP! I said , yes sir. I learned something very valuable, right there~!
@d.moutdoors4377
@d.moutdoors4377 2 жыл бұрын
That about high value pump explained is what my engine is doin thanks I know what to install and try.
@robsdeviceunknown
@robsdeviceunknown 2 жыл бұрын
holy cow, I actually never knew all this about oil pumps. I never had to change one out before. Man this was so informative. THANK YOU. I love learning. Trying to prepare for someday building me a vehicle.
@slantedperspective
@slantedperspective 2 жыл бұрын
This bypass valve part saved my day , thank you!! About to go pull the pump off the slant 6 😂
@petediamond7263
@petediamond7263 2 жыл бұрын
we always soaked the oil pump internals in STP and put it together old school trick I'm sure you know about!
@adamculbertson7850
@adamculbertson7850 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I understand now a whole lot better how they work.
@simcard027
@simcard027 2 жыл бұрын
thanx uncle tony excellent words of wisdom once again i'm replacing my oil pump on my 302 windsor this week and i was told to pack it with vaseline so good to get a heads up not to do that
@davesperformance88
@davesperformance88 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention why you should and shouldn't run a hi volume pump in certain applications. For an example I build a lot of LS turbo motors and if you just bolt a hi volume hi pressure pump on a motor in think you can rev 7,000 rpms for long periods of time it will run the pan dry. Hi volume high pressure pumps in my opinion are for added bearing clearance because you're creating a bigger leak. Most engine builders I know like 2.5-3 in something that's going live at 1,200 horsepower+ on race track but if you're going to Street drive it around mite not want to go that much maybe like 2. My one engine builder builds big block Chevy 1,200hp blower car stuff and runs 1.5 on mains and 2 on the rods with a good h bearing's. Some how he has good luck with that Seems a little tight to me but he's been building for 45 years.
@burnychaplin4601
@burnychaplin4601 2 жыл бұрын
The oil film takes up 002 thousands so you gotta loosen em up to get oil around the rod and main journals the first Crank I ever had balanced was on a small journal Corvette 327 and the engine builder called me and said hey it's going to be another 50 bucks I gotta polish the hell out of this crank you don't have enough room for oil when I got it back home it looked like chrome and 8000 thousand RPM was 200 below redline stock melling oil pump Corvette pan and factory windage tray Old school a I loved those little engines but eventually they had to be retired for bigger cubic inches or stay on the porch 👍👍
@chrisbalfour466
@chrisbalfour466 5 ай бұрын
Superb video. This explained everything I wanted to know, and more.
@c-man5679
@c-man5679 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, I love your videos!♡!♡! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences. There are a lot of people who don't know the difference between a head gasket and an ass gasket. You are not one of those people. I only have a fraction of the knowledge you have, and take all of your video info and translate it into air-cooled VW engine, because that is all I really know but love to learn more. So thank you again
@MikeLawson-cj4kt
@MikeLawson-cj4kt Жыл бұрын
Before I put a new oil pump in my Comanche 4.0 I put a little bit of oil in the pressure side; backed the shaft off a little, put more in and bolted it up to the block. (Damn, those pickup tubes are a bitch to R&R!) Been working fine ever since. AMOF at roughly 215,000 miles it has better oil pressure, than the 208,000+mile 4.0 in my Grand Cherokee! It's gettin' a new one before long, too :-).
@bartsarton2212
@bartsarton2212 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson Uncle Tony. And thanks for the info on "pack it with Vaseline" myth. Good job as always Uncle Kathy. :)
@croissantwrenchn
@croissantwrenchn 2 ай бұрын
Thank you tremendously for these videos 🙏🏼
@ecesarchavez
@ecesarchavez 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video exactly what we need more of the basic engine parts and how the work and how to fix them
@jasont.1530
@jasont.1530 2 жыл бұрын
Another solid video Uncle T! I soak up this knowledge like a spongie!
@francfurian8215
@francfurian8215 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson Uncle Tony. Cheers & stay safe guys😊
@seanbrenton55
@seanbrenton55 2 жыл бұрын
These are the kind of vids that made me a UTG fan.
@pappamike6231
@pappamike6231 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Professor Uncle Tony.
@Pondsisawesome124
@Pondsisawesome124 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, if the bypass sticks & the gauge is showing no pressure at idle is the engine thus being starved for oil?
@michaelhall7921
@michaelhall7921 Жыл бұрын
Took a long time to find your excellent video on the oiul pump. Our Toyota has been -pampered throuout it's 112k life but there is zero oil pressure pressure. My wife will not let me tackle it = she says I'm too old at 82. I am told you are unlucky... Toyota 2002 land cruiser = 3 L - D4D 1KD-FVT engine. Toyota says parts can fail ! Two decxent mecanics both have not 'done one'....... The last episode I had to sort out the injectors that the so called experts repaced 1 injector instead of 2 & yet the parts /specialists showed me the report that told the diesel repairers there were two injetcors that neede replacing. It was embarrasing getting the £500 labour costs back in my pocket....... Interestingly they had not cleaned one bit of carbon off the lobes on the cams. There was hardly any clearance on any of the tappets. It was donkey's years since I had done an engine rebuild with my pal, a first class motor engineer who taught me in a very strict manner...........he would say = never use an adjustible spanner on a motor! EVER. He siad mick you won't get paid helping us but you've had a hell of an appreticshire * wilk never need to take your 'cars' to a garage....... Then came the ECU.
@Jeff-oc6tm
@Jeff-oc6tm 2 жыл бұрын
There is a kit available for an M72s that replaces the spring, cap, and cotter pin. I use one with a normal volume M72 in my daily 5.2 magnum. I can't vouch for it completely but the dummy gauge in my jeep goes to "50" on the highway at 1800 rpm. Its a shame they don't put a real gauge in; I'll probably be fixing that soon.
@derrickwoods2803
@derrickwoods2803 2 жыл бұрын
I agree mostly with grease in an oil pump but I had a 22re that I could not get to prime at all took it back off put a tiny bit of assembly lube in it and bam she primed
@martuni1539
@martuni1539 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Finally got me to understand oil pumps and is knowledge useful on nearly all cars
@cudatali
@cudatali 2 жыл бұрын
Great informational video, This is the type of content that drew me to your channel
@stuckinmygarage6220
@stuckinmygarage6220 2 жыл бұрын
Gasket! So key to keep in mind! 👍👍 Thank you, Uncle T 🙂
@Kris-mx6ju
@Kris-mx6ju 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most misunderstood things about any pump is that they create pressure. They do not. Pumps create flow. Pressure is a measurement of resistance to that flow.that why the spring changes the pressure, and the larger pump volume changes the flow.
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 8 ай бұрын
A stiffer relief valve spring will only increase the maximum pressure. It won't increase your oil pressure at, for example, hot idle if you are only getting 10 PSI and the relief valve doesn't even open until 60+ PSI. To increase oil pressure at below the pressure the relief valve is set for, you either need to increase the restriction with tighter clearances, thicker oil, less leakage, etc or you need more flow from the pump.
@EYE_SPIDER
@EYE_SPIDER Жыл бұрын
This was really helpful, could the oil pump cause you to have to much oil pressure? My oil pressure is around 80 and its a 74 Ford F250 with the 360 big block.
@mromatic17
@mromatic17 2 жыл бұрын
would it be a good idea to coat it in a zinc break in oil before you install it? Since zince builds a small layerto help protectct it.
@MrGeno1951
@MrGeno1951 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks- I learned a lot.
@dennisborg5243
@dennisborg5243 Жыл бұрын
Question uncle Tony? When I was working at a service station back in the 70s. All the Chrysler’s after a routine oil and filter change. The red light on the dash low oil light would always stay on for an extended time it was difficult to turn that light off. Had to wait a long time and really rev the engine up! Why?
@mikehannahs
@mikehannahs 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you covered the gasket
@jamesduffey4442
@jamesduffey4442 2 жыл бұрын
Will you please pull the spring and plug out so we can all see how it is. And have you ever shimmed one of these Chrysler pumps ??
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