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@syrobe
@syrobe 2 ай бұрын
ARMOR TIERLIST kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWG1aoB6m5dqZ7Mfeature=shared timestamps 0:00 All 21 Black Myth Wukong Weapons 0:21 Tier List Ranking Criteria 1:15 D TIER WEAPONS 2:40 C TIER WEAPONS 4:38 LOW B TIER 7:40 HIGH B TIER 11:35 LOW A TIER 17:00 HIGH A TIER 30:00 S TIER WEAPONS 40:40 NEXT VIDEO
@kaint8974
@kaint8974 2 ай бұрын
Hey so I don't remember exactly what I did, but I managed to get the dark iron staff way back in like chapter 2 of my ng+ playthrough so you don't have to go all the way to the chapter 5 secret area to get it
@MFDOOM..
@MFDOOM.. 2 ай бұрын
Can you rank all the armor sets?
@syrobe
@syrobe 2 ай бұрын
@@MFDOOM.. already on it!
@MFDOOM..
@MFDOOM.. 2 ай бұрын
@@syrobe Let’s Go! Can’t wait to see it
@abdaabda
@abdaabda 2 ай бұрын
Spell ranking when
@mediumtext8038
@mediumtext8038 2 ай бұрын
No Yin Tigers were harmed in the process of making this video
@BigScoDDogg
@BigScoDDogg 2 ай бұрын
I just finally beat him today he is a tier 1 boss 😂😂
@femiairboy94
@femiairboy94 2 ай бұрын
Every time his health goes down to 10% he goes bat shit crazy
@TheDestinedOne789
@TheDestinedOne789 Ай бұрын
@@BigScoDDoggfr lol
@IronLung90
@IronLung90 24 күн бұрын
YIN TIGER LIVES MATTER protest coming up
@dr_slim_shady
@dr_slim_shady 2 ай бұрын
As a Chinese, using anything other than JinGuBang gives me the vibe of an Italian adding pineapple to pizza or adding ketchup to pasta lol.
@XuHaochengRyanHshs
@XuHaochengRyanHshs 2 ай бұрын
Me too. after getting it, I literally never used another weapon again.
@fightinggamesexplained453
@fightinggamesexplained453 2 ай бұрын
LMAO this is hilarious.
@XuHaochengRyanHshs
@XuHaochengRyanHshs 2 ай бұрын
@@fightinggamesexplained453 whats so funny.
@fightinggamesexplained453
@fightinggamesexplained453 2 ай бұрын
@@XuHaochengRyanHshs it was a funny comparison. I appreciated it because I know EXACTLY what the OP means by this. I can see how using the mythical Ruyi Jingu Bang would be a must for anyone who knows the significance of this story, but especially those that might have grown up with it as a part of their culture. :)
@XuHaochengRyanHshs
@XuHaochengRyanHshs 2 ай бұрын
@@fightinggamesexplained453 I see.
@natecward8322
@natecward8322 2 ай бұрын
I wish there were more staffs that did status effect damage
@SiverFangBlackWing
@SiverFangBlackWing 2 ай бұрын
I wish most equipment that did didn’t require being affected by that status.
@vjmasta3809
@vjmasta3809 2 ай бұрын
@@SiverFangBlackWing exactly bro, it was okay if there was something like in elden ring where you can force yourself to be in that status through items.
@ChidiGaming
@ChidiGaming 2 ай бұрын
@@vjmasta3809you can use gourds to do it for poison but I get what you mean
@SaviorsChild
@SaviorsChild 2 ай бұрын
I wish I could use best stance in game outside of one chaptwr
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq 2 ай бұрын
​@@SaviorsChildif youre talking about the wukong stance you can use it when all the relic slots are awakened. use the full monkey king armor set and the jingu bang. use a level 4 heavy and you activate the wukong stance for aboht 60 seconds
@danielscearce9350
@danielscearce9350 2 ай бұрын
A cool thing for min/maxing is that the dark iron staff retains base damage from when it’s equipped. So after equipping it you can switch from max defense gear to max damage/crit gear for huge stats
@domdp
@domdp 2 ай бұрын
did not know that! I do that with curious when using spell binder so that makes sense!
@yichenji5644
@yichenji5644 2 ай бұрын
It is worth mentioning that the two spear staff's hidden buff. The heavy attacks will break the light attack moves. Heavy follow light has to finish the light animation with all other staff. Only with the two spear staffs does the heavy following light go out the right way. When you are using the two spear staff, see-through is much, much, much easier.
@AllDayErrDay.
@AllDayErrDay. 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. How nobody else is mentioning this is insane. Not just varied combos but also dodging immediately cancels light attack animations with the spears.
@klockworks17
@klockworks17 Ай бұрын
I noticed instantly when i unlocked the first spear that see throughs were so much easier to time and pull off. Animations are way tighter and can and shorter, i was able to resolute strike almost on demand.
@PANCAKEPAP1
@PANCAKEPAP1 2 ай бұрын
The spear your get from Erlang is INSANE. Especially when paired with the relic that has your clones mimic your special abilities - you get to shoot a TON of spears lol
@ridatego438
@ridatego438 2 ай бұрын
EXACTLY. This weapon is being slept on
@PANCAKEPAP1
@PANCAKEPAP1 2 ай бұрын
@ridatego438 the spear barrage adds a little extra dmg too which is great. If the boss is one shot away, the spears will chip away at the health lol
@ridatego438
@ridatego438 2 ай бұрын
@PANCAKEPAP1 yeah, I also use it as projectiles if the boss is out of reach. Still does decent damage. Also, foreseeing the enemy in this stance is just way too satisfying. I'm at ng++ and it still humbles all bosses
@ridatego438
@ridatego438 2 ай бұрын
@Kavoshio who said it was? For me it's the most fun
@syrobe
@syrobe 2 ай бұрын
No the clones do not and cannot shoot the special weapon. thats not how it works
@ccboy3960
@ccboy3960 2 ай бұрын
It makes sense story wise why you need to do the game 3 times (full power relics = full power wukong) but tbh… 3 secret endings…. That’s ridiculous you should just have a permanent 4th stance if you wear most of / the full wukong outfit. Maybe with a small skill tree
@mohams151
@mohams151 Ай бұрын
Completely agree
@ulrikahaggard9923
@ulrikahaggard9923 Ай бұрын
Agree
@tbd3336
@tbd3336 Ай бұрын
I'll even say that, wukong stance should be there in NG+ if you get the secret ending flat out. Fuck life saving strand, give me the wukong stance skill tree. And if you get all relics thrice, just give me the great sage moveset man. Like if you beat Erlang thrice, dawg, you're already good at the game. Might as well make you stupidly overpowered. I mean who tf is complaining anyways. I modded that in and it's so goddamn fun.
@mohams151
@mohams151 Ай бұрын
@@tbd3336 Beating the great sage 3 times is harder than Beating Erlang 3 times. The sage scaling is absolutely brutal. He’s so strong starting from ng++
@tbd3336
@tbd3336 Ай бұрын
@@mohams151 sage has a lot of intuitive timings, though. And less complicated combos than Erlang. Both of them are fine once you get them down, but Erlang, to me is harder than Sage because Sage can mostly be dodged by just looking at the color of his staff or sound cues very consistently.
@gregtaylor3354
@gregtaylor3354 2 ай бұрын
The Bishui Beast Staff is a "bane" weapon for the Chapter 5 boss. Fun fact for those that didn't know, can really help while taking him on
@brendodo9319
@brendodo9319 2 ай бұрын
Does this just mean there are voicelines of redboy acknowledging it, or does it have some hidden effect?
@gregtaylor3354
@gregtaylor3354 2 ай бұрын
@@brendodo9319 My memory was that each chapter rewarded the player with an item for completing side quests that help with final boss. Chapter 1 (Fireproof Mantle), 2 (Wind Tamer), 3 (Spellbinder), 4 (Weaver's Needle), 5 (Bishui Beast Staff)
@thecrab3128
@thecrab3128 2 ай бұрын
The tri point spear is very underestimated imo. The best part of its special attack is not the buff itself but the fact that it's fast attack with many, many hit counts. When combined with the golden set, it charges up Qi like crazy, enabling you to do spirit skill in higher frequency. And more spirit skill = more focus = more special attack = more Qi = MORE spirit skill, that's not even counting the attack buff that the golden set gives you upon using spirit skill🙉🙉🙉
@Habib-I
@Habib-I 2 ай бұрын
I love ittttt
@christonchev9762
@christonchev9762 2 ай бұрын
tho it has a low range and it works only with Thurst Stance and to many that's the weakest Stance out of the 3
@queonjacobs6823
@queonjacobs6823 2 ай бұрын
@@christonchev9762 anyone who says pillar its stronger than thrust HAS to be rage baiting
@inkheart948
@inkheart948 2 ай бұрын
Yep. I use this combo to stunlock yellow loong to death in NG+. Pretty OP.
@zakhuncho7881
@zakhuncho7881 2 ай бұрын
I was dancing on yellow loong with this combo. Set my ring of fire and let the dance begin. If he's feeling frisky I just pop my rock solid. Non void and wind tamer. Untouchable.
@Boomer1665
@Boomer1665 2 ай бұрын
Great vid that actually shows when the earliest time you can obtain each staff is. Thank you for putting this much effort in
@bkteer
@bkteer 2 ай бұрын
The dark iron staff technically can be obtained early ng+....you just had to have skipped crafting multiple pieces of the bull king set/use only 2 pieces of bull horn. That way you can instantly start NG+ and craft the weapon.
@be9240
@be9240 2 ай бұрын
That's what I thought, I crafted it right away. I just did the helm and left the others, since the full 4 peice bonus didn't seem amazing to me. You can't really trade in this game. (Until new game plus and pluck of many combo)
@syrobe
@syrobe 2 ай бұрын
oops....
@marcuslai6115
@marcuslai6115 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Rocking the Dark Iron Staff since NG+ Chapter 2. It goes marvellously with the leg and arm pieces of the Bull Horn set that gives it plenty of defense. Add the mask and chest piece of the Pilgrim set for increased speed and the whole NG+ experience is amazing. Super enjoyable. Never picking up plants any more is a big part of that too !
@duducasarotto9975
@duducasarotto9975 2 ай бұрын
the spear of erlang is insane but paired with the skill that consumes all your mana to give you a damage boost, and with the spear it becomes the best cause the changed moveset and the spear throws
@TheMightyKite
@TheMightyKite Ай бұрын
“That Boss” in chapter 4 has been a menace for me for two days, so I’m trying to finish the Loong quest line to atleast get some more power before fighting them again
@Realdrlipschitz
@Realdrlipschitz 2 ай бұрын
I still say maxed out alternative Wukong armor and dark iron set maxed out is the best combo in the game
@Ratchet-Taco
@Ratchet-Taco 2 ай бұрын
Beem running this even into ng+5
@Callmethedrink7
@Callmethedrink7 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s the only way your damage keeps up into ng+ 4
@syrobe
@syrobe 2 ай бұрын
34:25
@coltizz
@coltizz 2 ай бұрын
I’ve played trough the entire game and I thought it was a good game in terms of combat lore etc. But in terms of customization and gear it’s a c minus. Just look at Wu Longs different armor sets, ability’s, while the game itself was definitely worse. Its build verity was so much better and interesting that I did play new game + there just because I wanted to try them out. In Wukong when you get the final armor you are just retarded for not using it and handicapping yourself. Every piece has bonus stats that no other armor have. Personally I see absolutely no reason at all to play new game +… Killing the same bosses wearing the same items ? Nha I’m good.
@Longtimec
@Longtimec 2 ай бұрын
@@coltizz sounds like issa you problem and not a game problem.
@오수민-d8w
@오수민-d8w 2 ай бұрын
The true option of the spear is that you can switch to the counter during any combo, which the staff can't do
@dfafdasdfasdsfadsf
@dfafdasdfasdsfadsf 2 ай бұрын
I was stuck on a few things in the game guide, but Immersive Translate really cleared up the translations for me.
@weemanling
@weemanling 2 ай бұрын
Still wouldn't put Tri in A tier, the stagger frequency alone from the new move is enough to make it S tier
@a.d.a.m1413
@a.d.a.m1413 2 ай бұрын
I would put Tri in higher tier on certain occasions. If you combine it with with Serpent Scale Set Armor it will deal a ton of damage, because you could deal light attack finisher much faster and reliable with the "Firce Thrust". The problem is you have to be on water arena to unlock its true potential. Well it will help so much fighting the Final Boss
@atrasricky4027
@atrasricky4027 2 ай бұрын
Jingubang all the way. In the lore, it is Wukong's favorite. In game, It has critical chance boost, cooldown reduce, attack boost, and 4th attack no longer depletes. What else can you ask tho
@AyeWhit
@AyeWhit 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tier list man! Crazy people struggle with yellow loong, him and I had a nice 45 second ish chat lol I main pvp fps games too. I haven’t played a pve story game in years. Nice change up.
@Tech_D3mon
@Tech_D3mon 2 ай бұрын
28:12 "the damage it deals is concerningly underwhelming" *Literally shaving off chunks of Yin Tiger's health bar consistently with every heavy* (and is statistically on par with the jingubang and accessible within a single playthrough unlike other s tier weapons and feels more rewarding to get and has sick lore and a different moveset)
@Q2Qool
@Q2Qool 2 ай бұрын
yin-tiger doesn’t have a lot of health.
@prisonbread
@prisonbread 2 ай бұрын
Good God man, you did some fucking WORK with this video. Pointing out all the merits and "big picture" advantages/disadvantages of each staff is hugely helpful for knowing what I should and shouldn't bother with. Really appreciate how much knowledge and work you put into this video!
@anteseke2396
@anteseke2396 2 ай бұрын
For the ppl struggling with the Yellow Loon boss: Use the thrust stance, don't stay too close nor too far, stay somewhere in the middle (1 full Wukong height from your head to his legs) - reason is when you are either too close or too far he will be aggressive, when you're in the middle he will just walk towards you. Charge the attack up to 3 times and blast him, it will take some time but be patient, when you see him charging his attack, stop yourself from charging and focus on dodging, you will have to dodge first 2 attacks while gaining ground between him (try to get the same mid point distance again). Otherwise he will do a full combo of about 5-6 dodges required. When you drop him to half health he will start to dodge your charge immediately with thunder jump, when I see him do that I start to charge the attack to 2 focus points and then blasting him, it seemed it worked better then - it wouldn't trigger the thunder jump as much. Or it could be that he always thunder jumps away 2 times in a row and after that you can hit him few times (after some time he will use the thunder jump again), I was able to hit him with 3 focus point charge from time to time, although 2 FP charge was more effective once below half HP. This strat worked for me, hopefully it is clear enough and it helps someone. I will explain more if needed in the comments. Edit - I also used No skill spell that boost your attack 2x but removes other spells
@LukisaNumi
@LukisaNumi 2 ай бұрын
haha bro literally what my strat was when I beat him a couple days ago I was stuck for hours then I just started sitting in fire circle and staggering him before big combos
@thisguy35
@thisguy35 2 ай бұрын
worked for me too
@supercritic100
@supercritic100 2 ай бұрын
What a trash guide. Way too complicated. The trick is just to summon your clones early, use cloud step to delay the fight and summon the clones twice in the fight. Wind tamer and whispering wight stops his weapon charge.
@thisguy35
@thisguy35 2 ай бұрын
@@supercritic100 you don't have to be rude
@anteseke2396
@anteseke2396 2 ай бұрын
@@supercritic100 Not complicated at all, just took longer to explain in 1 comment because I want to be detailed, tho ppl nowadays have short attention span. If i made a video it would be 2mins in length
@CA-JA
@CA-JA Ай бұрын
NGL the staff and this tier list I thought was gonna be generic but holy sheet the level of knowledge you have about this game is genuinely impressive.
@suhbubba176
@suhbubba176 2 ай бұрын
Btw for the tri point spear you don't need the loong dragon quests done, I only killed the cyan loong and was able to go kill erlang
@GhettoGz
@GhettoGz 2 ай бұрын
Well you still one shot them from NG+ and on. So getting some extra sparks wont hurt.
@KibethSE
@KibethSE 2 ай бұрын
Adept spine is easily my favorite due to its flexibility and synergy with pretty much any build type. That being said I pretty much agree with all your insights on the other options in that tier.
@mr_qaimaq
@mr_qaimaq 2 ай бұрын
12:35, finally, somebody said this. Quality content here, guys!!!
@Duckman-yv7gm
@Duckman-yv7gm Ай бұрын
I appreciate the fact that the developers made WuKong’s staff one of if not the best staff, I mean it just makes sense and is so nice to use in new game plus (even as a bull king set enjoyer)
@mongodellango4732
@mongodellango4732 2 ай бұрын
Good to see the classic Jingubang get some love and appreciation. It’s probably my favourite staff and the wukong set is probably my favourite armour set too. I’ve messed around with other staves and yeah they can be extremely powerful but they aren’t half as iconic. Some may see it as boring but sometimes you can’t beat simplicity.
@chrissankar8728
@chrissankar8728 2 ай бұрын
I loved the lighting related things in Wukong, like the Loong Staffs & loong armour. So much that I upgraded the loong armour to mythic. I really wish the mythical loong staff combined the two abilities of the Kang Jin staff & Golden loong staff so players can have the lighting effect on the downpour ability & summon a loong in pillar stance…
@I39393I
@I39393I 2 ай бұрын
one little thing about the spear light attack the modified light attack has huge cancle window on attack 2 and 3 made it really easy to use the back hop(i forgot what the moves name) like ur using long sword in monster hunter
@xTiddi
@xTiddi 2 ай бұрын
Spirit Tier List next?
@sunwukong1279
@sunwukong1279 2 ай бұрын
This list is so informative and amazing! Please make other tier lists!
@syrobe
@syrobe 2 ай бұрын
armor tierlist soon!
@blackwidow7804
@blackwidow7804 2 ай бұрын
Spider celestial staff is great with the armor set that increases your dmg when poisoned while lowering poison dmg you take. So you poison yourself with gourd, gets dmg buff and tour staff apply poison on heavy hits.
@knight_link7082
@knight_link7082 2 ай бұрын
One thing I will say in the blazing karmas defense, I used it on the mantis boss that always like to charge in close and spam, directly after I would hit him he would charge back in and every time I would keep the fire pit between us. The burn damage was crazy and proct fast with the resistance ignoring soak.
@Valientee16
@Valientee16 2 ай бұрын
I'm at CH5 and still using the Kang-Jin staff. I love my thunder damage build.
@You_are_bananas
@You_are_bananas 2 ай бұрын
The fact that you didn’t spoil any bosses or late enemies was enough for my sub. Also very informative video.
@JamesHutner
@JamesHutner Ай бұрын
“I didnt struggle with yellow loong but based on community discussion Im told he’s difficult 🤓” you’re so annoying lol
@IceCold85
@IceCold85 2 ай бұрын
Exceptional details, very good explanations for player use. Great job on the video 👍🏿
@alexrush4140
@alexrush4140 2 ай бұрын
Awesome to see Syrobe getting some good view counts on a game that isn't Elden Ring. Also fun to watch him stream 👍
@ds3pvpfun865
@ds3pvpfun865 2 ай бұрын
nice,, heard you talking about this .. been watching your one shot streams .. i managed to get 95 percent damage buff earlier.. used the armour with the 25 buff.. then the potion with 30 percent buff on last sip.. plus revive another 30 percent then the relic perk when you cast a spell another 10 percent.. helps a lot with my one shot attempts :)
@hopelessdistribution6937
@hopelessdistribution6937 2 ай бұрын
Spoilers!: For those struggling with the Chapter 3 secret Boss: It is VERY easy, tbh. The hardest part is the Block Meter. 1. You Can use the Plantain Fan to deplete it ALL with a single use. 2. Azure Dust transformation also deals a massive chunk out of the Block. 3. The quick transformation spirit called "Top Takes Bottom, Bottom Takes Top" to deplete his Block Meter more and do decent damage. (Once it is upgraded, it works wonders on his health and Block.) 4. You can use Parry to block the hard telegraphed attacks they do while in the air. Using these I beat him really easily, it was a cake walk and first tried with this set up from a Video I saw. Hope it helps!
@Taint_Smasher
@Taint_Smasher 2 ай бұрын
I HIGHLY doubt you first tried Erlang. Come on now kid.
@jamesdsmith1217
@jamesdsmith1217 2 ай бұрын
@@Taint_Smasher read please.... First tried Elarng with that setup... and so did i... i watched the same video made the same build and it was a cake walk.
@tbd3336
@tbd3336 Ай бұрын
If you want to get frisky with it, don't use the plantain fan in the first phase, time his block break, with a 4 point focus thingy when he's about to go the 2nd phase. If you break his block and trigger the 2nd phase attack. It SKIPS it, and you go straight into 2nd phase on top of doing crazy damage. And then you can easily trigger his 3rd phase disappearance with the wandering wight heavy, or ig top takes bottom smashes. Dodge the initial flurry, and then, immediately transform (azure dust) to soften him up a bit. Tank/dodge a combo, and then plantain fan him, summon clones, just empty the house and he dies. This is from NG testing, I'm sure it's even easier in NG+ because of the unified mind skill. I think you can actually skip the 3rd phase animation too with the fan but I never felt the need to. It's a bit more complicated. But you can damn near script the fight if you get it down.
@omgdin
@omgdin 6 күн бұрын
​@@jamesdsmith1217Video name?
@4synergy
@4synergy 2 ай бұрын
Kang Jin staff goated. Carried me through most of chapter 3 and early chapter 4. Currently in Ng++ trying Yaksha king set with dark iron staff, wind tamer vessel, wandering eight, 3 defense curios and one mana increase curios plus spellbinder. Not an extensive tester but it seemed funny to max attack while “increasing damage reduction” from -30%. Also using life saving strand bc hahah funny. Fyi life saving strand procs on your transformation(I’ve only been using Azure Dome so idk if life saving strand resurrects anything else) and then it still works on me(at least i think i haven’t tried cuz everyone has died after taking 2 azure dome beatings plus a beating from me
@user-kw7xk5hj4f
@user-kw7xk5hj4f 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. Just started the game. The info will come in very handy ❤
@Ethical228
@Ethical228 2 ай бұрын
Hey syrobe. Great video
@Kapper23
@Kapper23 2 ай бұрын
Was gonna go for the true stance until you said it has to get activated and goes away after 60 seconds. Insane to me to not just give it permanently after all that work to get it. Very sick video!!
@MrJade12
@MrJade12 2 ай бұрын
I am really surprised someone focused on one shot challange runs would prefer a staff thats pretty much only got utility going for it.
@domdp
@domdp 2 ай бұрын
yeah kind of agree - 10 seconds is plenty of time to use the 4th focus point
@syrobe
@syrobe 2 ай бұрын
because in any scenario other than a true one shot i would prefer the jingubang lol
@MrJade12
@MrJade12 2 ай бұрын
@@syrobe I mean if you are not going for a true one shot you don't really need the 4 focus heavy
@Arclor
@Arclor 2 ай бұрын
Did some spreadsheeting and simple trials on all of the staves you put in S-tier. Found that Fuban despite its impressive crit rate, it was the lowest damaging (dps) among them if you don't count the spike explosion (I couldn't get it to consistently hit, plus it's only on heavies). Fuban's passive can be eally nice though. Good against multiple enemies or big enemies like you said.
@ttydt
@ttydt 2 ай бұрын
What’s the best dps build for someone running spellbinder?
@Arclor
@Arclor 2 ай бұрын
@ttydt dark iron staff, but you need high defence, like 500+. By my NG+ run, I had 550.
@drillodoger6707
@drillodoger6707 2 ай бұрын
How would a 15 damage difference between fuban and jingubang, but such a huge difference in crit chance lead to jingubang having higher dps? Also fuban does quite a lot more damage than jingubang on heavy attacks from what I’ve seen since the spines can crit too.
@Arclor
@Arclor 2 ай бұрын
@drillodoger6707 You can actually estimate the "dps" by assuming an average amount of crits based on crit chance... so for example if you have a 20% crit rate, you assume 2 out of 10 attacks are crits. Formula for it is DMG * (1+(CR)*(CD-100)/100)) DMG is the amount you hit after your attack goes through all the nebulous multipliers and enemy defence. You have to test against any enemy to figure this number out. I used the damage I got from a non-crit using a 3-focus charged heavy on the same enemy each time. You have to take an average though since even the exact same strike in the exact same enemy has variable damage (+/- 5 %? Something like that). CR is your crit rate as a proportion (so 23% is 0.23), and CD is your crit damage (not as a proportion, just drop the % sign and take the whole #). I don't know the full damage formula this game uses, but CD is the last multiplier that applies after your base attack goes through all the other multipliers and enemy defence. Using this formula, all of the mythical staves are actually very close to each other in dps, with black iron pulling ahead significantly more than the rest of the pack when you have 500+ defence. Like you said though, Fuban has the spines plus the spines can crit. I didn't account for that because I couldn't get them to consistently land (many enemies including those your size are too small to get hit by the spines). Jingubang has the advantage of being able to store the 4th focus point, so outside of flawless gameplay, you will hit more 4-focus smashes with it than with fuban. Their base dps are so close though, that I'd go with whichever has a passive you like more. Jingubang and fuban are def my favorite for that.
@Arclor
@Arclor 2 ай бұрын
@drillodoger6707 plugging in 0 for dark iron, and 25 for fuban crit rates, if seems yes that it still outdamages fuban, even when you have a lot of crit damage (180%+). They're closer in dps at 0% natural crit rate though. Just wanna stress again that this is raw damage in a controlled setting. The spines from fuban, and set bonuses that benefit from you scoring crits could make fuban more effective overall. I don't think I have the time to make an accurate model for all of that lol
@eldaralex3067
@eldaralex3067 2 ай бұрын
Since i watched tones of shielded enemies being smashed by you while sharing with us the most comprehensive video on this topic, I can't asbtain myself from not pointing out (in case someone wasn't aware of) that you can use rocksolid against a shield attack therefore shattering it along with the additional defencebar. Thought i was doing something wrong since i appareantly came across only on staffs i dint like that much. My state of contentment was: i guess just more damage is better than ... nothing. I sticked with the stone staff for the most part, then switched to kangjin staff for the aesthetics rather then the stats or bonuses :)) felt great to summon lighting down on the enemy i'm pounding XD just to switch to the spider for some more damage and from this one to the visionary because again for the aesthtic and seemingly shallow sake (i dont enjoy seeing spider legs moving crawling like at each end of my staff ;) I hardly cand bring myself finishing it because i dont want it to end. Such a great game. Thank god ng+ exists.
@Pro-Hunter
@Pro-Hunter 2 ай бұрын
This is some high quality content! Would love to see you make tier lists on stuff like armor sets, gourds, spirits, transformations, etc.
@syrobe
@syrobe 2 ай бұрын
armor set tierlist next!
@Smileyking-wl4iy
@Smileyking-wl4iy 2 ай бұрын
Thx for putting no spoilers in the titel :). Always hesitant to watch these kind of videos
@mentaikiryo
@mentaikiryo 2 ай бұрын
Wanna prefix this with I love your videos and this one was really enjoyable to watch. Can't wait for the next stream! Spoke too ya a bit on your streams and have mentioned that erlang was the hardest boss for me. Now having beaten him I think I know why and it's mainly based on mentality. Majority of the players fighting him are not using rock solid or cloud step. I know this because I wasn't. Majority builds I saw fighting erlang were using spell binder and like the pilgrim set. Like 98% Spoke to my wife (she hasn't played the game) and she helped me come up with a better strategy which basically boiled down to Use the rock solid move for once. My reason for not using it was cause I'm personally aggressive with my play style and greedy for hits so I hated using cloud step which took you sorta out of combat. And I never used rock solid because at that point I was so used to just dodging everything as if I had ultra instinct. Thing about erlang is he will hit you if you're just dodging. You have basically 0.2% of a chance of dodging the entire fight unless you've already perfectly mastered him. Normal players and even good players aren't gonna dodge him ever. Erlang is hard as hell to beat but the moment I used rock solid in my build I legit best him on my 3rd try. Same with wukong. I think the main problem is every build that is shown and every tutorial for erlang shows you basically relying on being good enough to dodge and hit without relying on spells and while that does work, most players can't do that. Rock solid gets introduced just late enough for people's muscle memory to forget that it exists (I wanted to use it but never did because I was already so used to not having it) And I feel like a lot of players develop a hit greedy play style by that point. That's my idea/stand point on why some bosses like erlang or yellow loong are so hard for the community. I could easily be wrong but that's just me.
@lorddale2212
@lorddale2212 Ай бұрын
after getting the tri-point spear and mastering thrust stance, I must say, the spear is actually OP. Super insane especially with the POM. When you have All your focus points, you can spam Forceful Thrust and absolutely melt an enemy while dodging attacks at the same time.
@lewismorby4608
@lewismorby4608 2 ай бұрын
If you use the chitin staff with pillar stance with 3 focus points the healing is actually pretty decent
@moonrock115
@moonrock115 2 ай бұрын
For me i've just completed NG+2 and beat the snot out of Erlang Shen on my first go using the Bull Kings full set, the Dark Iron Staff, and for acessories i use the Buddha's mask for +9% crit damage, Amber Beads for increased focus charge rate, Cats Eye Beads for +3% crit chance, and lastly the Golden Spikeplate for an extra +30 defense and slight reflect damage. For spirit transformation i used to use Tigers Acolyte for the +10% crit damage bonus, but i've started using Top Takes Bottom/Bottom Takes Top spirit, for a +45 additional defence boost at only a -10 loss in attack power. Relic is usually the Weavers Needle for extra crit chance/damage. Total Defence is 690+ , critical chance is 9% without the needle, and 11% with the needle, while Critical Damage is 185% without the needle and 195% with the needle. If i use Spirit Sealing the crit chance skyrockets upto 28%. Base damage for Dark Iron Staff is 235, and thats without adding in the extra buff from using the Spirit Seal spell. I can probably tweak the build to be better, but i have to say the Tenacity and extra defence you get from being hurt while wearing the Bull King set is awesome. For my gourd i've the Supreme Gourd, using the Loong drink (heals 30% max health, but massively increases damage of next attack) with the following soaks: Bee Mountain Soak (chance not to consume a gourd use), Iron Pellet (cant be interrupted with attacks while drinking, and gain moderate damage reduction), Tiger Relic (moderately increases critical chance for a short duration) and Purple Veined Peach Pit (massively increases health recovery using the gourd when at critical health).
@221BlueStreet
@221BlueStreet 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the staff that require you to be posioned, there is a soak that puts you in a poisoned state, using that could improve the benefits of that passive
@please-wake-up-now
@please-wake-up-now 2 ай бұрын
This is a super cool tier list! 🐵 It's interesting how some weapons feel way better when you get to know their combos. The golden loong staff was a total lifesaver for me in early game! 🏆 I kinda wish they added more variety though, like some staffs that could change elements or something. Wouldn't that just spice up the gameplay? 🤔✨ Keep it up, Syrobe! 🙌
@TrueBlueAndrew
@TrueBlueAndrew 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for making it spoiler free
@vizualwarrior129
@vizualwarrior129 2 ай бұрын
U should do a vid about armor!! Specifically like late game armor sets for ppl in NG+ and above. There’s already plenty of videos of ppl grading all the armor sets in normal base game, but for NG+ and above (when you can upgrade mostly everything to mythical) I haven’t seen any videos of. On top of that, I notice you almost always wearing that yakusha armor all the time. Would you say that’s some of the best armor in the game? (Assuming everything has been upgraded to mythical) I’m assuming simply bcuz of the constant damage buff u get and not caring about the damage you take bcuz ur good at souls games etc.
@syrobe
@syrobe 2 ай бұрын
ARMOR NEXT!
@YureiOni
@YureiOni 2 ай бұрын
Thrust stance is the most fun to use imo. I like integrating all 3 but thrust is so much fun haha.
@dyontaydial8727
@dyontaydial8727 Ай бұрын
Just unlocked the Golden Loong staff and personally love the design and the Thunder Dragon attack. It was worth the grind 🐲⚡️⚡️⚡️!
@thatdawgrich
@thatdawgrich 2 ай бұрын
Bro hell yeah another fire video bro now I know what staffs ima definitely check out 🔥🔥
@growlingscarab7
@growlingscarab7 2 ай бұрын
Golden Long So far has been a favorite Weapon, outside of specific situations, i have pillar stance equipped all the time and it absolutely melts if you pluck of many right before you set off your charged attack.
@Turkmei5ter
@Turkmei5ter 2 ай бұрын
At first i purchased the standard edition of the game, but after a couple hours of playing i decided to pay for the content solely as a tip for creating this absolute beauty of a game. Can't wait for future dlc's.
@Mugendary
@Mugendary 2 ай бұрын
Hey Syrobe, can we get an all Armour set tier list in the future?
@earnienew
@earnienew 2 ай бұрын
I'm waiting tier list for black myth wukong and finally here we are
@adawg3032
@adawg3032 4 күн бұрын
Staff spin goes crazy when you got the storm flash long staff buff active
@PlatinumKrown
@PlatinumKrown 2 ай бұрын
Man I'm glad I grinded out the spear in ch 3, it's pretty useful for mid game.
@riv8472
@riv8472 2 ай бұрын
Great video could you do a video testing the interactions between each skills ? Like what applies to what and what doesnt
@FPchie
@FPchie 2 ай бұрын
This tier list makes more sense and analytical than other youtuber channel tier list. Should have released this video much sooner lol. Just completed tha first playthrough.
@timcopeland656
@timcopeland656 2 ай бұрын
Bro give him time 😂
@johncra8982
@johncra8982 24 күн бұрын
everytime he said "chit in" instead of "kite in" a part of my soul died 😂
@titantryinc-cd3dz
@titantryinc-cd3dz 2 ай бұрын
With the Mythic pilgram the stormflash is perfect ... but i get it but with that armor set any boss that can be immobilized is dead in 2 or 3 charged cloned synced heavys .. i believe that would be the phrase. Great breakdown. Thank you.
@qwert4461
@qwert4461 Күн бұрын
Currently on my 3rd playthrough omw to wukong stance, rushing every boss down so far since ng+ and getting sweet revenge hehe
@thedizaster115
@thedizaster115 2 ай бұрын
The staff of blazing karma is craftable before the boss of ch5 is defeated. As well, while the explosion is underwhelming and crknge, it has probably the fastest scorch build in the game. The scorcg happens at the tip of the staff, so you have to get close to the enemy to knock them into it.
@jasonwhatley2479
@jasonwhatley2479 2 ай бұрын
For the staffs with healing effects the health gained on focus skill really boosts it imo, and the crits giving spell cooldown is better than ya think with some luck and maxing crit rate skills then adding a potion you can make for free easily.
@christopherreid5900
@christopherreid5900 2 ай бұрын
Great analysis!
@IDislikeTheNewYoutube
@IDislikeTheNewYoutube 2 ай бұрын
A Video about the best weapons available by Chapter and how to obtain them would be nice. Good luck.
@The_Wanderer...
@The_Wanderer... Ай бұрын
I got the game 3 weeks ago and beat it with secret ending and all a week a half ago. Really fun game, gave me some real good challenges, there are bosses you have to be aggressive with, others you have to be patient really really good game, I'm playing the plus now. And for me the pillar stance is my favorite, I really don't find a use for the thrust stance and the smash stance will pretty much always be useful. Anyways, yellowloong was a pretty good fight, it took me like 5 hours to beat him, but a lot of that was from me going off to completely rebuild my stats 😂
@ZachGilmore-f3f
@ZachGilmore-f3f 2 ай бұрын
Chu bai spear is way too cool I was extremely excited when I got that weapon lol
@codeiha7487
@codeiha7487 2 ай бұрын
therefore, golden loong staff is still good for mid-game. I felt somewhat comforted when I just "interacted" with yellow loong for about 5 hours
@LokiKaisan
@LokiKaisan 2 ай бұрын
Goat video bro
@IamDrDapper
@IamDrDapper Ай бұрын
I only use the jingubang and the tri point spear. I love thrust stance and the spear moveset, and nothings gonna change that
@marcuslai6115
@marcuslai6115 2 ай бұрын
Really great analysis.
@ryanjurgens2535
@ryanjurgens2535 2 ай бұрын
I feel it's important to note thrust stance itself increases crit chance. So I feel like the thrust stance specific weapons could all be higher
@dokho7iday
@dokho7iday 2 ай бұрын
Great video, extremely helpful. Thank you!
@angeldu5t922
@angeldu5t922 2 ай бұрын
Cloud was great for a cloud step build was hitting over 3k per hit while clouds step was on a small cool down also I think certain enemies/bosses could have different defenses so that could alter your results if you just tested the black Smith
@zeal514
@zeal514 2 ай бұрын
Basically, get the defense staff asap, than get the jing staff early chapter 3. Use that until you beat yellow long in ch4. Than get the bishui staff in chapter 5. Than get the wukong staff for ng+.
@Loco4Fuecoco
@Loco4Fuecoco 2 ай бұрын
Dope video, but you can definitely get dark iron staff before late chapter 5 on NG+. I’m only at chapter 4 and I’ve had it, pretty sure I crafted it in chapter2.
@ieatcalamari4595
@ieatcalamari4595 2 ай бұрын
For Yellow Loong I strongly recommend rock solid and pluck of many maxed out. Pluck of many, immobilize and dump damage, then since pluck is maxed duplicates can use some spells, including immobilize. Withering Wight for his big boy damage, and use blacksmith transformation. For the transformation block to build focus and go into his special mode. These things should dump his HP to about 1/4 health. You gotta be pretty diligent at that point. DO NOT use pluck of many with chubai thrust staff either, because you and your dupes will be pushing each other out the way and wasting damage opportunities.
@bryanxjames1215
@bryanxjames1215 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure they’ll be adding more weapons sometime soon, I still have blank spots in weapon tree with all weapons unlocked
@chillyz112
@chillyz112 2 ай бұрын
Great review, my fav part was "AND...blablablabla AND bla blablabla AND blablabla AND.😂 jokes aside massive review my man.❤️‍🔥
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq
@ZeroOmega-vg8nq 2 ай бұрын
from what i can deduce. GS needs to have an update that actulaly lets up upgrade the weapons to have all the choices we want when it comes to damage and then upgrades the passives
@colinsmith6453
@colinsmith6453 2 ай бұрын
Great video, man.
@yapuastink5525
@yapuastink5525 2 ай бұрын
Chitin staff gives the heal based on focus you build from fighting, dodging etc. It doesn’t work if you just hold the charge button and hit them
@israelbaffour3933
@israelbaffour3933 2 ай бұрын
All I’m saying is if u are fighting the great sage u would want to use the tri-point double edged spear cos he’s going be catching your heavy attacks with the staffs and tossing u away so u want to use the spear for the thrust with the other extra spears to actually deal damage without him catching it and wasting ur focus
@ipgebannt7635
@ipgebannt7635 2 ай бұрын
as a spell bind abuser i can say that the tri spear does alot of dps when u spawn that move from what ive felt
@Ryn0_333
@Ryn0_333 2 ай бұрын
Extremely helpful video!
@guojilin
@guojilin 19 күн бұрын
29:09 actually, if you didn’t do the chapter 4 secret area’s scorpionlord, you have to wait until ng+ chapter 4 is completed or go do the scorpionlord in the secret area’s to get enough sky piercing horns.
@kd_killa256
@kd_killa256 2 ай бұрын
I'm loving the fuban staff with the kashka armor and 3 crit damage curious and 1 crit chance curiou. With the needle vessel and non able for my spirit for the extra crit. I walk around with 63% crit chance and 203% crit damage that mixed with spellbinder is so strong in NG+
@Idk_what_2_write_XD
@Idk_what_2_write_XD 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! Just finished the game and wanted to know wjat are the best ng+ staffs🎉
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