I'm glad they changed Junpei's dialogue. ??? not only assumed the form of his best friend, it also made a mockery of Trismegistus, which is essentially Chidori's persona as much as it is his. It's not a joking matter and Junpei's new reaction emphasized his maturity and the severity of the situation.
@Xxblade172 ай бұрын
Fr
@SubwayBoss.Emmet962 ай бұрын
"it's our persona too"
@Kalakauai1232 ай бұрын
With his connection with Chidori, it's personal to him.
@SubwayBoss.Emmet962 ай бұрын
@@Kalakauai123 even if it is a connection, that's a shadow so they can do whatever they want with the personas they want, so jumpei can do what he wants to that copy
@JohnLee-dp8ey2 ай бұрын
Rather he called ??? a copycat
@antoinewilliams2902 ай бұрын
Koromaru: 'Mad? No Fuuka, I'm not mad... I'm furious!'
@nekogamer25082 ай бұрын
Furryious
@christopherchasteen49902 ай бұрын
'He has NO right summoning Cerberus like that!'
@critch75142 ай бұрын
Must’ve been a “ruff” time
@hidefstatic2 ай бұрын
It's almost like ??? did that on pawwpose
@Jimmeeehhh2 ай бұрын
KOROMARU can no longer be SAD or HAPPY.
@fabienchamberland47912 ай бұрын
Jesus, Junpei ain't letting that slide and understandably so.
@leohernandez87512 ай бұрын
I mean if a creature took the form of my dead best friend *AND* mocked my persona which is the fusion of my dead girlfriend and myself, I’d be just as mad as Junpei is here.
@javierf61622 ай бұрын
@@leohernandez8751well chidori is alive tho
@leohernandez87512 ай бұрын
@@javierf6162 If you don’t help Junpei in getting flowers then Chidori actually dies. If you do, she wakes up yes; but she loses her memories including the ones with Junpei so the old Chidori technically dies in this case.
@Wott2482 ай бұрын
But it's implied that she remembers a part of him due her appearing in her dreams slightly, and she said she's "going to search for the man in her dreams" so there's a possibility that she'll remember junpei ( or she'll just fall in love with him again )@@leohernandez8751
@pewpewpew78242 ай бұрын
@@leohernandez8751chidoris alive in arena ultimax though.
@Yogwind2 ай бұрын
Love how angry Junpei is
@flaremawile7262 ай бұрын
Can’t really blame him. I’d be pissed of if that happened to me. Specially considering what hapened to Chidori
@12ww372 ай бұрын
His persona is literally of a fusion of him and his dead lovers soul of course he’s gonna be pissed
@starfire67892 ай бұрын
I allways wondered is chidori alive during the answer even tho u can get her alive in the main story (spoilers)
@Skyler-f7m2 ай бұрын
@@starfire6789Most likely they gave her an ambiguous ending like akechi and then, only mentioned here and there but no appearance whatsoever.
@asteisdrakosАй бұрын
@@starfire6789she's alive, during the ultimax games he has a necklace she gave him
@spiritzion2 ай бұрын
i love how everyone is either mad, concerned or just questioning everything, and then theres mitsuru and akihiko who just go "well i dont know the rules of this thing but surely MY persona cant be copied"
@bukalayzx2 ай бұрын
Ken's expecting it.. "there's Kala-Nemi
@azurerider8122 ай бұрын
"Ain't no way" -Them, probably.
@the.blank.arrives2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Junpei and Koromaru are ready to throw hands to a copycat
@maquinlol96732 ай бұрын
Was really looking forward for Koromaru getting really offended by having his persona copied in the remake LMAO
@smilingman42992 ай бұрын
Tbh I feel like the others aren't offended enough. I would've thought Akihiko would be fuming
@kirbywithaknifeisawesome60282 ай бұрын
@@smilingman4299I think Junpei’s pretty pissed
@smilingman42992 ай бұрын
@@kirbywithaknifeisawesome6028 Not pissed enough
@bigejfi61572 ай бұрын
I really like how junpei is actually pissed about ??? Using his persona especially since it has a lot of sentimental value to him
@yu6btemz2 ай бұрын
can we talk about how hard that cut-in goes?
@benduford37462 ай бұрын
The red effects of enemy Persona users has been a thing but the fact it’s black is so cool, especially with the water aesthetic they got going on a sort of rebirth/Baptism vibe the with Strega it makes it look like blood because their Personas are actively harmful to use and ???’s is blackened old blood because it’s a facsimile of a dead man, or maybe I’m looking to much into it and they just wanted it to be edgier than normal.
@Blue-fe4byАй бұрын
I'm so glad I played this game blind cuz that cut-in was amazing and seeing in for the first time was so cool!!
@edwardramos45912 ай бұрын
Rise: Was that your Persona just now?! Senpai, be careful! Adachi: Magatsu-Izanagi? Well aren't you a cheeky little shit! Marie: Kaguya?! Ugh, can this thing get even more irritating?! Futaba: That was one of Joker's Personas! This thing's playing with cheat codes! Morgana: Mercurius?! Hey, we're the Phantom Thieves here! Ryuji: Seiten Taisei?! For real?! Ann: Did he just summon Hecate? Yusuke: An intricate forgery, but that's all it is... Queen: He's copying Anat now. Haru: Astarte... Akechi: Loki? Are you trying to piss me off?! Violet: Why are you using Vanadis?!
@yeissonvelandia6992 ай бұрын
Ryuji: 4real
@nobu68332 ай бұрын
You really captured their personalities in these hypothetical lines, good job.
@gioelealpizar60092 ай бұрын
How come you've done one for Yu, Adachi, and Marie, but not the rest of the Investigation Team?
@edwardramos45912 ай бұрын
@@gioelealpizar6009 Because they were the only P4 characters represented through the DLC Personas.
@gioelealpizar60092 ай бұрын
@@edwardramos4591 oh. Still, though.
@the1hero1822 ай бұрын
I never thought about this until now but, what if in the OG FES & this DLC, what if he used Caster (Castor?) at one point? Shinjiro’s persona. I’d love to see how the cast (especially Akihiko) would react to seeing ??? using Shinjiro’s persona during this fight
@LostArk782 ай бұрын
Maybe it'll go like this: "No not again! Castor won't take another life!"
@toony12322 ай бұрын
Yes, it's Castor
@the.blank.arrives2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile if that happens, Ken will just get PTSD and then Mitsuru will be confused too like how even her Persona is also used
@Skyler-f7m2 ай бұрын
I belive the shadow can only take form of the living not dead ones.
@wolfofsummerbreeze2 ай бұрын
@@Skyler-f7mspecifically this shade is a construction of the living sees members inner desires to see Him again. In a way, this is a battle against themselves. Similarly to how Metis exists, you could say.
@noahmaybin17812 ай бұрын
0:45 I bet Chidori wouldn't like that...
@clonedbraixen2 ай бұрын
It's obvious
@noahmaybin1781Ай бұрын
0:45 Insulting Chidori's soul will cause Junpei to burn you to hell.
@TheElementsAreWithMe2 ай бұрын
It's poetic really. A monster of their creation using the same abilities as their leader which in turn coped their own powers. This is some next level masochism.
@minorchild61562 ай бұрын
I like what they did for the model of ???
@azurerider8122 ай бұрын
They even included the new bits like the armband.
@Anonymous5292 ай бұрын
@@azurerider812Tbf, wouldn’t make much sense if he was wearing the old armband lol
@azurerider8122 ай бұрын
@@Anonymous529 speaking of, I think the armbands now carry into the story of P4 Arena and P4 Arena Ultimax Mitsuru: 0 Akihiko: 1 Shinjiro (+): 2 Door-Kun (+): 3 Yukari: 4 Junpei: 5 Fuuka: 6 Aigis: 7 Koromaru: 8 Ken: 9 Metis woulda been 10 if she stuck around. Maybe that's occupied by Labrys now after P4AU.
@Anonymous5292 ай бұрын
@@azurerider812 I dunno, after P3R they mostly (Except Mitsury, Akihiko and Aigis) left SEES and went on to just live their normal lives; they only come back because Mitsuru tells them it’s an emergency
@azurerider8122 ай бұрын
@@Anonymous529 they'll reconvene into the Shadow Operatives. In Ultimax, there was talk about Agents 4, 5, 8 and 9 which are Yukari, Junpei, Koro and Ken respectively. Mitsuru also mentions 6 which is Fuuka.
@Awesome_Pichu2 ай бұрын
Imagine how furious Akihiko would be if the Shadow of Doubt used Castor
@bippythechippy8822 ай бұрын
Akihiko: Castor!? ...How *DARE* you!? Ken: Castor? N-no...it can't be. Mitsuru: What? It can use Caator as well?!
@Saiyan2542 ай бұрын
I’m glad they changed some of the Dialogue
@the.blank.arrives2 ай бұрын
Most of the lines, especially in the Colosseum
@zaburoh.3157Ай бұрын
"Gimme that key!!" There's a reason why some people call her B*tchkari in Fes lmao
@isiahzar76682 ай бұрын
In alternative world where Shinjiro's still lives. Shinjiro: "What the!? How the hell, it using Castor?!
@Jet_Genesis7202 ай бұрын
Junpei Copyrighting Trismegistus
@joshuabergman32922 ай бұрын
It's basically a wedding certificate between him and Chidori, so ??? using Tris is like saying "haha, your love is fake"
@KKurigo2 ай бұрын
@@joshuabergman3292 LMAO????
@snailthelostcow632 ай бұрын
The biggest mockery from ??? ever "You guys got matured? Yeah, right, check THIS so-called matured personas you have lolololol"
@attackingelectron2 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s a huge missed opportunity that Shadow Makoto never brought out Castor, maybe he could’ve used him if you brought Mitsuru, Akihiko and Ken in the team, since they’re the 3 with the most relationship to Shinjiro
@StevenCatalin2 ай бұрын
Reverse Castor did not even appear in P3 The Answer since Shadow Makoto was made from everyones grief who was still alive. Thats why it can use the teams Persona, but not those who were not involved in his creation, like Shinjiro, Metis or Makoto (with Orpheus)
@danielmayonaka8818Ай бұрын
Sadly that wouldn't happend, ??? can only copy Personas of living people who thought of him, same reason why he can summon Athena but not Psyque
@SaiyanGamer952 ай бұрын
I've said this in the commets section of a video from the OG version, but it's still satisfying hearing characters say the names of their Personas outside of summoning.
@TheJaredPunch2 ай бұрын
I am a shadow, the true self. 1:46 Nah, you don’t say…
@johnedward6106Ай бұрын
Shadow Makoto looks so evil and ruthless, holy shit. That eyecatch was sick
@the_free_timer5011Ай бұрын
Junpei's reaction essentially being "You dont have the right to use Trismegistus!" is the best of them all
@Boxdx22 ай бұрын
0:46 this is why i like junpei
@Yurihyuga7662 ай бұрын
I love how the cut in of the shadow MC looks like. I love how there’s like blood in it too. It looks cool in my opinion
@Xenosaga2 ай бұрын
god they cooked with that cut-in
@TheMarioManiac2 ай бұрын
I’m gonna miss Mitsuru’s crudely put together line from fes 😭
@azurerider8122 ай бұрын
It had a good run.
@ThePittCrazyАй бұрын
0:45 Awwww
@TheJeminiteLaw2 ай бұрын
❤️ That cut in is absolutely gorgeous 🖤
@TheWtfanimeАй бұрын
Junpei felt legitimately insulted, and I'm glad he did after the hell he went through, his anger is completely justified And also hearing how pissed off Koromaru is was actually unsettling
@Apparently_I_am_everywhere2 ай бұрын
Junpei's new reaction is so much better in my opinion. He sounds genuinely furious.
@NinjaBoy6412 ай бұрын
Fuuka: Koro-Chan looks mad! Me: No duh, Sherlock.
@username3624Ай бұрын
Anyone else notice how the copied personas all are blank/white/chrome colored?
@exostudios85632 ай бұрын
I can't wait for the modders to change ??? into the FeMC model with the same updates just because they probably can.
@garmering2 ай бұрын
everybody gangsta 'till shadow makoto whips out castor
@tylermercado14452 ай бұрын
Like in the original, it doesn’t have Metis’s persona, so if you have Metis in your fighting team, after it uses your other teammates’ personas, the next switch is back to Athena.
@DarkSamusFan112 ай бұрын
This game has taught me that if doggo gets mad, YOU RUN!
@keylimepiee2 ай бұрын
Could've been cool if he could use Juno for some kind of healing/boost skill
@glennparker70282 ай бұрын
1:43 You have enraged the doggy!!! It's going to bite your legs off!!!
@tnemmers54072 ай бұрын
Can't use his Wild Card Personas, but can use his friends' Personas.
@Radicaal_19 күн бұрын
I killed it so fast it never got to use any others 😭😭
@Maragidyne5552 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, Junpei and Koromaru are rightfully pissed
@noahmaybin178115 күн бұрын
How would the rest of the Investigation Team, Sho, Labrys, Wolf, Sophie and Toshiro react if ??? used their Personas?
@AM-yu9wyАй бұрын
(??? uses Arsene) Joker: What?! Why is it using my Persona? ???: Now you know...how it feels...
@floragatoscripts26 күн бұрын
Imagine what would Fuuka’s reaction be if ??? used Juno (stat boost or healing?)
@spiritsandwich73812 ай бұрын
That persona change animation was dope
@ardraagatama28582 ай бұрын
Mitsuru : he's not using artemisia properly when not casting marin karin Atlus missed the opportunity
@thatforemankid226219 күн бұрын
I never got this far in the fight cause I Armageddoned his ass in like 2 rounds
@BrownCharlie1Ай бұрын
Imagine if he used Fuuka's persona for a weakness scan
@danielmayonaka8818Ай бұрын
That could have been nice actually, I mean, they could have add it very easily since it's an already existing enemy skill that Jin uses
@DLaevateinn2 ай бұрын
I honestly wish they made him copy Juno as well considering Fuuka is a lot more involved in combat in Reload than she was in the old iterations.
@agentx494020 күн бұрын
I noticed that when ??? uses their personas they have a different color
@tnemmers54072 ай бұрын
Shinjiro: "What? Castor... but how?"
@tomlee_bomleeАй бұрын
i know if it were me i would probably be like “wtf dude that’s MINE”
@GenEric13052 ай бұрын
I wonder how mad Aki would get if ??? used Shinji's Persona...
@k4l715Ай бұрын
Whats funny is that Atlus released a Persona game for mobile (i think) called Persona 3 M which had Sees fighting against shadows of themselves who had the same Persona's but were negative
@jettmanas2 ай бұрын
Just finished watching a playthrough & didn't know about this except Aigis. Nice touch. Thanks.
@joogled1839Ай бұрын
literally forgot about this because i beat him in like 4 turns.
@mmmsheehooАй бұрын
Would've been cool if Shinji's persona was summoned too
@azurerider8122 ай бұрын
Finally, HD! Edit: aw dammit, no more copycat from nu Junpei
@Jindictave2 ай бұрын
Nah, that's just straight up evil. I hope Junpei hits nothing but crits when I get to this fight
@BlueTornado327528 күн бұрын
Wait, he could switch Personas?! I beat him while he was using Athena. And i was even on hard mode...
@natsuki_gaming19642 ай бұрын
They're lucky Makoto Yuki didn't buy the Magatzu-Izanagi DLC.
@whodafaqareyouАй бұрын
They really pulled the??? Card again...
@aldrednieto84482 ай бұрын
This looked like the same thing in PERSONA III FES. THE ANSWER
@yumithehunter6292Ай бұрын
Athena hurts the most considering Metis is Athena so he’s basically using your own sister against you
@Gigantichalo54Ай бұрын
So sad I missed all of this. I had Akihiko use a theurgy and he did like 10k damage and 1 shot this boss...
@choco6992 ай бұрын
imagine how funny it would've been if they made ??? use fuuka's to full heal himself and reveal weaknesses
@mewtheo168219 күн бұрын
Okay I'm shamelessly ripping off a joke I saw on a complilation of the og ??? Fight but. When I'm at a restaurant and the salad list is a little too long 1:01
@RhythmOSauce2 ай бұрын
Idk who ??? is but they look cool, maybe bring it back for another spinoff game or somethin
@bukalayzx2 ай бұрын
They could have done it with ultimax with ??? As npc but with a playable p3mc
@Legolas50002 ай бұрын
koromaru was spitting the shit out of him
@ricram72672 ай бұрын
Dark protag must have got that day 1 dlc persona pack
@benedictarisato2 ай бұрын
This is what I was searching for! Thanks for the video!
@chrislee5268Ай бұрын
I never got to see this cause I just killed him in 3 turns, lol
@TiredSoba2 ай бұрын
BRO IT JUST CAME OUT TODAY
@ForrestFox6262 ай бұрын
He was playing it all day yesterday
@SaShA65722 ай бұрын
People still surprised what streamers got copys of game far more earlier then normal players and have time to prepare content.
@FazPersona2 ай бұрын
I didnt get it early though, I just rushed it on stream
@BarrenAccАй бұрын
Yo, remember when this guy had like, niflheim and panta rhei n shit? *Good times.*
@neo_child2 ай бұрын
Needed a video like this because I killed him too fast, even on Heartless 😂
@grindingtheaxe3027Ай бұрын
Everyone: How is he using all these personas? Like they didn't JUST have a year long adventure with him...
@hatad321Ай бұрын
He can use multiple, but never his teammate's. Wildcards can only use Persona they capture or fuse.
@fox-milessavioroffoxes3782Ай бұрын
_Koromaru is Furious_
@Skylanders20172Ай бұрын
He was angry and furious!
@shiningstar7372 ай бұрын
Could this the in universe origin of the picaro personas? tho this is the subconscious so this ain’t exactly literal but association with words do like ancient gteek butterfly/soul/wind. Picaro means rouge or bohemian, pretty much artistic deviant. ??? Is a manifestation of guilt, just like how one express emotions through art. They are our team’s personal personas that follow the command of another, like a rouge subordinate. Even more they are black, silver and red versions that are more powerful then the original, just need some gold and more edgy clothing and it’s practically picaro.
@GabyEzePereira2 ай бұрын
Mmm, although the picaro personas don't have a canon background, that's an interesting interpretation of them. IMO, Atlus just decided that it'd be cool that DLC personas followed the P5 trend (since they're guests) and came up with their picaro versions.
@shiningstar7372 ай бұрын
@@GabyEzePereira yes of course in our world outside the game, but I’m talking about how they came to be in the world of persona
@GabyEzePereira2 ай бұрын
@@shiningstar737 Yes, that's why i pointed out picaro personas don't exist lorewise, so there's no exact explanation.
@bracken87824 күн бұрын
@@GabyEzePereirathe idea behind the picaro personas is basically ‘if joker had this persona instead of arsene/satanael.’ Not… really that much deeper than that, but it’s still an interesting idea.
@ze_glitchy_gamer76292 ай бұрын
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
@Freakymonkey782 ай бұрын
How did I not see any of thee but Athena lol. I might have accidentally been over leveled
@luminary672 ай бұрын
RIP The wrong salad joke with Akihiko. Just doesn't work anymore
@TheVainGame2 ай бұрын
A question: Are Metis & Psyche not affected? I've seen the original but never thought about it. I assume the battle isn't coded for them. TY for reading! 🔅
@Alex8561002 ай бұрын
Psyche isn't copied in the original, i wouldn't think ???? Can copy it in the remake either
@infinitypercival59582 ай бұрын
Makoto and Metis never met, so ??? not being able to copy Psyche would make perfect sense to me.
@TheVainGame2 ай бұрын
@@infinitypercival5958 Perfect and rational sense, thank you! Was a sudden thought and glad to see there's reasonal logic to back it. 🫰
@GabyEzePereira2 ай бұрын
@@infinitypercival5958 Spoiler. I think the reason why ??? never copies Psyche is because Metis didn't create it. Yes, she's a facet of Aegis but it's the latter who contributed to ???'s existence.
@tagon2381Ай бұрын
A bit of spoilers, but ??? Is basically a shadow of grief created by the living members of SEES wanting to see him again. Since Métis never knew him, Psyche never gets copied.
@bippythechippy8822 ай бұрын
Would've been really nice if he copied Juno for a Pinch Healing/Buffing move or used Shock Noise Maybe Fuuka: What!? Juno!? I- uh...be careful everyone!
@jaxet.rasaid2 ай бұрын
Okay, but we should actually get to see him use Juno. I get there wouldn't be much of a point, but complete the experience.
@omniwolf1877Ай бұрын
Yeah I think the devs missed out with this one, as they could've used her as a persona that was just there for buffs or, even better, had her appear as his Theurgy Skill for when he reached half or critical health. The latter would be both scary and awesome at the same time.
@Xiaolruc2 ай бұрын
Man, voice direction was a little spotty for a couple characters.
@ark78062 ай бұрын
Can you do a showcase of new Fusion Spells?
@FazPersona2 ай бұрын
will do!
@ark78062 ай бұрын
@@FazPersona Thanks a lot! And sorry for the trouble
@FazPersona2 ай бұрын
@@ark7806no worries goat. video is up!
@rickyricardo6481Ай бұрын
Had to come here because i killed him too fast😂
@evrest91662 ай бұрын
Koro chan : Grrr (of disapproval)
@styxranger436Ай бұрын
This has always been my question, is ??? actually using a persona, or is it just making it appear physically and using the skill itself?
@nanashi1173Ай бұрын
This scene annoyed me. The slow attacking and the characters calling out their personas name with "no way" 10 times in a row
@xaviersejour91832 ай бұрын
Do I still have to pay is a 30 $40 for this? And again the bass game is like $70
@Pegyson2 ай бұрын
I get that he was important to everyone but doesn't it feel like they're just sliding Shinji under the rug? Imagine if along with everyone's persona he also summoned Castor and everyone in the party would react
@joaolima7131Ай бұрын
Shinji was dead before Makoto was, so it makes sense, you can't grieve someone if you die before them
@gamerbeast36162 ай бұрын
I only got the junpei one
@S-treme2 ай бұрын
For boss who have everyone moveset he is very easy.
@danielmayonaka8818Ай бұрын
In the original he have the 4 tier elemental spells like Nilfiheim on Phentasilea, idk what happend here
@theanonymouschicken169Ай бұрын
1:01 When you walk into the salad bar and see all the variety.
@riotanzil12 ай бұрын
Ok but where is Fuuka's Juno?
@ultracapitalistutopia35502 ай бұрын
0:46 Interestingly in the Japanese version of Reload, Junpei's line is the same old "you copycat!" (パクリかよ!) So this emotional upgrade for Junpei only occurs in the English localization.
@GabyEzePereira2 ай бұрын
This is one of the few times an English Dub does it better than the original one.
@asabad12682 ай бұрын
Huh nice timing
@hoileongdai69562 ай бұрын
No shinji?
@easyscout83692 ай бұрын
He's on vacation
@ZA-TRUE-ZA-WARUDO2 ай бұрын
Nah man dont worry he probably just forgot to include him