All Gnosis and 8th Element Uncovered | Genshin Impact Theory

[@IslandXD]

Paimon is cool

[@That_wanwan_guy]

No u r :3

[@loveticons]

Paimon verrrrrry pog

[@jonathanwilson5355]

Y e s .

[@thuglifeganyu7543]

You too Island XD

[@kurarieshiiunanaliakaira1985]

Great videoooo

[@Shaggy.My.Panties]

Imagine if at the end of all this Mihoyo was just like: Oh we just liked the idea of using chess pieces and didn't think about another element at the time.

[@meiyingkagi6024]

LOLL YES

[@naman6517]

I don't think a gacha game can end

[@fishy_swims]

@Alarge Corgi2 well Yae already said the Gnosis looked like a chess piece. We just don't know which piece

[@yes78]

@@naman6517 they can always find ways to expand it but i think by the time the game end, it has already lived long enough

[@likeasnail8086]

@@naman6517 Honkai Impact has come to a conclusion as far as I know, so it is possible

[@codekisaro8030]

the whole game is just a chess match and we finally reach celestia and otto is sitting on a throne and says "checkmate"

[@Riverlia]

Traveller: "This mean I can punch your face?"

[@El-E009]

Bruh I would just cry

[@marvinpalaganas603]

Then there would be a cutscene where Otto, the guard at the Cathedral in Mondstat would start clapping. He still wears the Favonius Knight uniform, but has an evil smile reflected on his face while breaking the 4th wall. "You are not the "player". YOU ARE BUT A PAWN." Then the cliff where Mondstat lies splits, and shows a tall tower where Mondstat lies on top, shaped like a torch. FR tho. Why is a guard named OTTO guarding the Cathedral? The last time I saw that name, an Apocalypse happened. Why does the Cathedral have a "secret basement" of only books and an antique lyre? I BET THAT IS NOT ALL THERE IS TO IT. Where and who are the heads of the Cathedral? Barbara is just a "Deaconess". That's the lowest rank. There are six more titles above that. Esp. the POPE. Otto is not impossible to be a villain. The real culprit in Inazuma Arc after all is an NPC called Nathan. A secret triple agent. Works as double agent to the Resistance and Tenryu Commission to instigate war in Inazuma as that is his job as a Fatui Agent. There is also Nimrod who is a "spy" in the Treasure Hoarders who just loiters outside Mondstat. An NPC as well. This game's lore KILLS ME WTF.

[@duck9685]

@@marvinpalaganas603 last time i heard the name otto, i heard it again, and again, and again Re:Zero reference btw

[@lyden1633]

@@marvinpalaganas603 Are you perhaps refering to Otto from Honkai Impact 3rd?

[@danielvinceneo3556]

Everything be related to everything lately...just like how my Exam score is decreasing directly proportional to my increasing Genshin playtime

[@erenjeager4634]

My exam marks b4 genshing bad my exam marks after genshin still bad. Me : it's all coming together

[@summerblossom841]

when you find a way to use 100% your brain but you use it on genshin imact and it's unimaginable lore : *good grades have left the chat*

[@fandomgamming9591]

Short way *exam inversely propotional to genshin playtime*

[@danielvinceneo3556]

@@fandomgamming9591 you know how bad my math is

[@omalibart3201]

Ha my exam scores are increasing the more time I spend on the game

[@mars5834]

A year later, that dendro slime prediction you made about Kusanali is SO accurate it's impressive.

[@davidebogliun7955]

I was looking for this comment lmaooo

[@stevendao8303]

and the electro gnosis too it's a FUCKING BISHOP

[@sevenwarlord1255]

yeah he was good but it also make problem because geo and cryo not have good sinergy geo should change into white damage

[@chalk.eater0]

@@davidebogliun7955 sameeee

[@YumYunC]

I think Genshin impact is a good game in China. It very popular among my classmate😀

[@UltimateMegaMaster]

Venti : I am the weakest among all the seven. Also Venti : Has the Queen piece.

[@prodigy1636]

Lol true that, altho I guess it's cuz how freely the queen piece moves 😂

[@user-vs8xm2qc2q]

Venti is weak When it. Comes to Close combat But his power is not weak Among all the 6

[@v01dmc92]

When you think abt it, queen has the most move sets, meaning the most freedom

[@UltimateMegaMaster]

​@@v01dmc92 Bruhhhhhhhh.

[@mcventi3052]

@@UltimateMegaMaster They arent wrong

[@eeveeofalltrades4780]

Anemo being the Queen also makes sense because Anemo can technically "use" four other elements, like the Queen can move in any direction, meaning they both have more options or freedom.

[@haifapog8158]

OH

[@ninjakeks9326]

And so can Geo.

[@eeveeofalltrades4780]

@@ninjakeks9326 well, Geo can't technically "use" them, since it can't deal extra elemental damage, all it can do is create countermeasures for the other elements

[@Abcdefghijklmao9]

and the anemo archon's ideal is freedom..

[@alfort6326]

tho queen cant move like the knights

[@deweichong3646]

Also, here's a small detail on why Paimon could really be the God of Time. When you open the player menu, everything else stops but only Paimon moves!

[@Dylan-cx4kk]

yup and we also can change the time

[@rizalsalasi4273]

@@Dylan-cx4kk it's not "we", its only paimon.

[@ghifariasoka8272]

Iirc Albedo also says that Paimo has a power that can make waterfalls flow backwards (or something amongst the line of that)

[@user-ps1ue6vf3l]

Yeah and kazuha once said paimon’s smell is like the star (while the traveller is both wind and geo) which leads us to the theory that paimon real identity is a god from celestia or some kind of creature not originally come from this world, not to mention her name is literally demon name as well as Baal Morax, Barbatos etc. of the gods in the game

[@Labanorass]

:00

[@okreally6660]

Also noone gonna talk about how paimon says, "Lets start with the anemo Statue of the 7, and there's a reason why!" I believe paimon knew we could resonate with the statues even though literally no one else can. Also paimon literally tells us where to go like 90% of the game, just like how a king commands its pawns.

[@dudutrutru7548]

THERE IS NO LIGHT ELEMENT THAT LIGHT REPRESENT PHYSICAL DMG

[@candela__]

​@Nunyabusiness What OP said is their lore explanation for Paimon being "bossy", not the "game flow" explanation...

[@Unethical.Dodgson]

Paimon says that you should start with the God of Anemo because you're literally in the God of Anemo's country. That's it. Also, Paimon was legitimately surprised by the fact that you could borrow elemental power from the statues and states that it's not at all common for people to be able to do that. (Also the King doesn't command the pawns. The player does. The player that also commands the king.)

[@r.d.6290]

​@@Unethical.Dodgsonthe weird thing is that in-game picture shows that "Paimon fishing incident" happened in Liyue Guyun Stone Forest area, then somehow they appear near Monstadt shores 2 months later. Like why did they start not in Liyue?

[@halmittens]

Raiden being the king piece makes kind of sense gameplaywise 😂 she's the only playable archon withOUT an exploration kit ..

[@vanthursday]

You know if the Slime theory is right. The Pyro slime exploding after dying might be a sign of the Archon's future death. Then you realize the Anemo Slime also has a weakness. They became vulnerable from projectiles when they start flying. Meaning, Venti might die when he starts flying. And I think my prediction is he's gonna die while trying to bring us up to Celestia = Anemo slime producing wind current after dying.

[@killthatcoffee3339]

...OMG

[@joobin814]

and if you've played honkai... you'd know.

[@meowzr]

wait a fucking minute

[@romanthegambler6966]

@@joobin814 know what? Dude, don't just throw these words like that, there's no spoiler tag on YT, but we need the info

[@hasanmuttaqin464]

no..... NOOOOO..... why? why? don't do murata like that dangit

[@dslstnt]

Archon: "Gnosis" Aether: "No Sis" T_T

[@hasanmuttaqin464]

raiden ei: also "No sis" T_T

[@allendaviesmacawile9798]

OMG hahahahahaahaha

[@kamirator9215]

Hotel: Trivago

[@HongWeiMyPrince]

no... if each lumine and eather has to be black and white, opposite side of chess. so at the end, one of us must die to let the other win. omg, this is so tragedy of two sibling has to walk on journey to kill each other at the end.

[@xivering]

@@HongWeiMyPrince I knew I’d find this comment.. stop it :(

[@seishi9860]

It's highly speculated that for the Dendro Archon, he is in the hiding and Lesser lord Kusanli assumes her current role the as dendro archon, so it would correlate to how the dendro slime has many smaller ones fighting for it until it finally reveals its self in the end.

[@IslandXD]

;)

[@Yen-jw1ls]

So does that mean we might be jailed in Fontaine since the hydro archon might imprison people the same way as the hydro slime imprison us in a bubble? Oh no. First Liyue, then Inazuma and maybe Fontaine in the future... why are we always a wanted fugitives 😑😅

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

@@Yen-jw1ls Don't forget Mondstadt, we broke into the cathedral and tried to steal the Holy Lyre, leading to pursuit

[@sssgth-5976]

That’s mainly due to a mistranslation-“Lesser Lord” is a mistranslation of “Devi,” the title for Hindu goddesses

[@romanthegambler6966]

@@Yen-jw1ls fontaine quest starts Xavier: oh, you're finally awake! You were trying to cross the border...

[@nelyyisoppy6509]

During venti's story quest I beleive , we're told that archons can be born out of nothing when they're needed (how venti used to be a gust of wind but he suddenly gained a body) , maybe paimon was created for the goal of joining the traveller and freeing tevyat . Or something like that that's my own theory

[@DracoSafarius]

It’d be gods not Archons, and they’re in a way just bigger coalesced forms of elements like slimes. All up to happenstance. Plus, Venti only got his body after Decarabian died and he took the Anemo power that would’ve otherwise blown half of Mondstadt apart, he made said body out of pure Anemo energy

[@luv_kofee]

First sentence seems like what happened to Nahida/Kusanali

[@nelyyisoppy6509]

@@DracoSafarius maybe the traveller could've generated some immense energy , or something similar

[@judesliggoo]

Venti wasn't born out of nothing though, he used to be a wisp. Nahida also formed from a part of Rukhadhevatta, so Archons cannot form out of thin air

[@SirRadington]

"is there a hidden meaning behind the loading screen" you know a game's lore can get more than a little nuts when someone says this completely unironically

[@saturno6324]

another thing i find cool is how in chess white starts first, just like Lumine starting her journey 500 years before Aether

[@xynomite]

*Confused Lumine Main Noises*

[@alexanderpadilla1449]

@@xynomite aether seems to be the main character in most cases

[@xynomite]

@@alexanderpadilla1449 yeaaaahhhhhh but you know

[@latte_7577]

@@alexanderpadilla1449 Yeah its just that people tend to use him more often when referencing the main character. Technically both would be canon as miHoYo literally stated that.

[@markdanielanore8456]

True the blitz chess rule is 500 second

[@enji-sanhiatus2136]

I'm still asking myself how I am so quick to absorb all these theories and knowledge and be failing at school

[@not_aureruu]

LMAO SAMEEE

[@GoldenBeans]

Something actually interesting is taken in better than something boring you probably couldnt care less about

[@ventiy]

LMAOOO SAME I'VE WATCHED SO MANY THEORIES AND CAN RESEARCH THEM ALL BUT I'M STILL FAILING SCHOOL

[@happiness4091]

I- same 😭😭

[@Cim5]

it's just the thing u really want to do

[@yomeiko]

Welp, one year later, your theory still holds. The Dendro Slime analogy was pretty spot-on, and the electro gnosis is indeed a Bishop. Amazing theory!

[@QuangVinhTran-mb8fk]

IT’S A KNIGHT😅

[@yomeiko]

@@QuangVinhTran-mb8fk the electro gnosis is clearly inspired by the standard bishop piece design, as we have seen on the Sumeru Archon quest. It in no way resembles a horse.

[@lyz0711]

Following the slime theory, im guessing that the dendro archon will be carrying a speaker playing genshin battle bgm while camoflaged.

[@IslandXD]

LOLOLLOLL

[@TheGayDane]

please mihoyo

[@krazie7477]

They’ll probably be on deaths door because something from the Abyss’ side latched onto them, and we’ll have to battle bigger bosses to get the ingredients / items to separate the two of them - in the archive for the dendro slime it states “… and some see it as a slime that has been parasitized by some special plant.”

[@orionisalnitak]

a wild dendro archon has appeared *cue bgm*

[@DavidNightjet]

Another reason supporting the "Paimon is the god of time" theory: We've seen gods lose their powers and memories and be traveling companions. Just look at Guoba. He was originally Marchosius, until he used his power all up and lost his memories and shrunk in size and became Guoba. The same could have happened to Paimon. Her powers could have been thinned down and whittled away as the number of people to remember her dropped. Thus causing her to shrink in size and lose her memories. And now she travels with us.

[@MegaHuntress]

To add to this train of thought. Guoba "woke up" when somebody offered a food item that was related to him. Paimon could have "woken up" ( and found herself submerged in water ) when the traveller popped out of whatever time shenanigans he got wrapped up in. But on the flip side, it took the traveller 2 months surviving on their own to meet up with Paimon, so its a bit of a stretch...

[@bbyt0ri]

this needs to get noticed

[@HeartStruck333]

This needs more likes

[@_ren_293]

I agree with ur point

[@mafuyu2983]

Thats a big brain momento

[@nuke8110]

Ningguang's death dialogue can say something abt this: she says " we are all but pawns....."

[@MaxdamageAF]

Yea i just had the same thought, Ningguang's death line mentions "We are all but pawns..."

[@cheviot_]

Maybe she is self-aware….

[@miyan4velicz]

@@cheviot_ 🥰 she knows her place

[@dummyfalcon8130]

Nigguang died!?

[@miyan4velicz]

@@dummyfalcon8130 no lol he meant when she dies in gameplay

[@marysaltome7690]

Late to this but with the new Sumeru teasers, the slime being connected to the archon makes a lot of sense, as the story with the Dendro slimes lines up with the Dendro Archon's current situation in Sumeru.

[@ghifariasoka8272]

Some more stuff about Paimon possibly being the god of time: - Her scarf and particles has the same pattern as the clock in the setting - When we pause the game, only Paimon moves - Albedo theorises that her power can make Springvale's waterfall flow backwards - The Ars Goetia describes Paimon as knowing many things, including the winds - It also says that Paimon can see into the past and future

[@user-cv1hg2vy6z]

That isn't really solid proof

[@aki3185]

@@user-cv1hg2vy6z that's why it's said "possibly" 💀 it's speculations

[@ghifariasoka8272]

@@user-cv1hg2vy6z This entire comment section is speculation. None of these are solid until mihoyo proves us so

[@ylixeusb]

^ also adding to this, she definitely has some connection with celestial stuff, even kazuha stated that she smelled like stars. I find it superrr sus that she denied it immediately after he stated it..

[@aelitah6558]

And her name is the world for all knowing I think it’s related to a type of mythology that’s connected to Sumeru

[@cursedboyir]

This makes sense though. Lumine is basically on the side of light and Aether is on the side of dark their clothing says it all, but light and dark doesn't necessarily mean good or bad either.

[@17timesSmoother]

in chess white moves 1st, so I think we play on the side of black being Aether as the real OG who knows if he or Lumine are good or bad

[@jackgrimm2600]

I think the opposing traveller is white just cause when we resonate with So7, our accessories change colour(green/yellow/purple) & when on the quest with dainsleif, first reunion with the other sibling, you can see their accessories is shining white

[@BG-wz1iu]

They both have white and black accents. Meaning we could swap it and it would still make sense.

[@clivemorgan2645]

@@BG-wz1iu lumine has not a shred of black aether is cannon meaning were on the black side

[@poisonlily4230]

@@17timesSmoother also, the traveler that mihoyo picked is mostly Aether while Lumine is their usual "Abyss princess"; and we know that the twin who is now the ruler of the Abyss is the twin who woke up first- the one who had the first move. So mihoyo is literally presenting us that Lumine is the white piece since she had the first move. just-food for thought.

[@004chestnut8]

"Pawns are the soul of chess" - Philidor This is why the traveler is so important in changing the tide of the game

[@furanko3789]

And don’t forget that you can’t move any piece of you don’t move the pawn or the knight before, meaning that according to the video, and our theory here, those two archons might have a quite important role

[@eizendragon5141]

Ke2

[@004chestnut8]

@@eizendragon5141 Bongcloud

[@aqlxacro7291]

paimon being the king makes sense actually in chess, generally in an endgame when there are only kings and pawns remaining, the king protects the pawn to move to the other side to promote and since paimon is the traveler's travelling companion and guides the traveler it might make a bit of sense

[@stargazer6510]

I never imagined a free game could have such a rich andd intriguing lore. It's no wonder this game is popular.

[@Legendnewer]

Sadly all many care is the actual gameplay and gacha

[@edgaramemura1571]

@@Legendnewer and that’s perfectly valid, sometimes people don’t want something they have to think too much about. Sometimes people just want a fun game to play with pretty characters.

[@franz5512]

@@Legendnewer deep and interesting story with unappealing gameplay won't gather players, sadly. This happened with GFL

[@v3ngence138]

tf you mean. its only popular because of how hectic the community is

[@stargazer6510]

@@v3ngence138 do you even lore bro. It was a joke. Lore and story is much more interesting to me then gameplay. So it's just my opinion.

[@scheccidnunezbeato4535]

This explains why paimon calls venti toned deaf bard even after knowing he’s the anemo archon

[@eertikrux666]

Paimon acts casually in front of divine deities

[@v01dmc92]

@@eertikrux666 when paimon was freaking out bc Raiden almost killed traveler

[@Cohsyy]

@@v01dmc92 yeah but the traveller was about to die so

[@randomcommenter2499]

@@v01dmc92 when the pawn piece was about to die, of course paimon would be afraid.

[@NamiiWavee]

@@v01dmc92 of course she'd be horrified if the pawn was about to die!

[@zerefsunlimitedshipworks]

If Genshin Impact's just one large chess set, then I'm gonna main Paimon and play the Bongcloud.

[@raivaru3270]

The opposing side casually confused and just plays the 4-move checkmate out of confusion.

[@El-E009]

Lol

[@Kizerlk07]

Hello there, fellow avid Genshin Impact and Chess enjoyer. Considering Paimon being a little bit dumb, it will be fitting for her to use Bongcloud.

[@eizendragon5141]

I that you're a hikaru sub 🤣 Tot, tototorurut, tut, tut, turururururut.

[@pepegawarfare2843]

The two players may very well be paimon herself (who controls time) and the sustainer (who controls space), both of them securing one of the twins as their trumph card bc both of them can control every element in the game (reflecting how light refracts into every single possible colour or element in this case)

[@archaicStargazer]

Here's another one for you. The Tsaritsa sees something we don't. She's not taking the pieces off of the board, she's *castling*, an advanced defensive maneuver in which the rook and king move toward each other in order to put the king into a more defensible position while simultaneously mobilizing the rook, but in order to castle, the squares between the king and rook must be empty. The Tsaritsa is betting everything on her ability to protect Paimon, even being willing to sacrifice the other pieces in the process.

[@firby7341]

thats a really great point but i do have a question then: why does the other rook needs to vanish? i know the move you are referencing but not all the rules, is it only allowed with one rook left?

[@archaicStargazer]

@@firby7341 It's allowed with more than one rook remaining, the only restrictions are that the space the king and castling rook will occupy must be empty, and the king and rook must be in their starting positions before the maneuver. The Tsaritsa didn't have to take Morax's gnosis, and in fact I think he's in on it. He agreed to the contract, after all.

[@yukishiro3287]

That's impressive. But how did the Tsaritsa knows about Paimon?

[@nabieladrian]

@@yukishiro3287 Who says that _only_ Tsaritsa that knows about Paimon? 😶😶😶

[@zhun9989]

That’s fucking GENIUS

[@hhhhhh_.]

ayo i just realized everytime we die in genshin, paimon reverses time to bring us back to a certain point before our death

[@SuussyBakka]

Then she tells us what was about to happen… right?

[@plsbuffme5470]

@@SuussyBakka no... ? That would ruin everything, if that were the case, than the traveller would get really suspicious and they would figure it out she is a god or something, if I were to guess , she'd probably find a way of avoiding our death by other means and distractions rather than just plainly telling us...

[@Aaadapro]

Lmao so she is satella?And Aether is Subaru?

[@gifm____]

wtffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[@raijelll]

If Paimon is the one controlling the events then there's a chance that Paimon isn't the King piece but the player.

[@loveticons]

Can I just say that IslandXD videos are possibly some of the only theory vids that cover everything in a non-confusing & smart way

[@IslandXD]

Thank you so much! :)

[@loveticons]

@@IslandXD don’t thank me for speaking facts

[@spardadarkknight1]

@@IslandXD HOW DARE YOU İNSULT MY CAPE

[@mellodèmako]

True

[@XOmega9287]

@@spardadarkknight1 lol

[@thischannelwasamistake9403]

I thought the visions are associated with the past of the users and the archon and not random Geo - Persistence and toughness despite the struggle Anemo - Loss of a friend or someone close Electro - High ambitions or achievements Hydro - Strong sense of justice or morality The other archons may have something in common with the users and Celestia just chooses the most similar element to suit them. I'll edit and add more elements.

[@Freakcoded]

Doesnt hydro means when you feel not good enough?

[@aartibhandari3626]

Cryo ( speculation ): A way of finding a way to get to your goal, no matter what path you take to get there ( basing off of Tsarista's ideals and Kaeya here )

[@malaitek]

@@Freakcoded nope

[@Unethical.Dodgson]

It seems like: Geo - Persistence and determination. Anemo - Grief or loss or something to do with connection. Electro - Dreams and ambition. (Fischl wanted to be the Fischl of the storybooks) Are fair enough. But I don't think Hydro is necessarily about justice and morality. Barbara probably got her Vision because she had an ideal. Same goes for Candace. It's not really about justice and morality with her. She wants to safeguard her people. I don't think justice and morality is enough of an explanation. The hydro archon is supposed to represent those qualities but she's likely to be the furthest thing from those qualities.

[@zahrahanindya2730]

this whole chess talk reminds me of Su being challenged to play Chinese chess with an Unknown being... and if he wins that round he will get the truth that he has been searching for. and what if genshin is based on that chess round ? that would be legit

[@bloeckchengrafik4790]

That would make it possible that the player is the opponent

[@reitoilefilante]

Do you have a link to more info about that story? I’ve never heard about that before but I searched a bit and found nothing helpful.

[@shadyspot8284]

If I were to guess, whoever Childe's teacher was in the abyss is likely one of the opposing pieces, maybe a black rook to mirror the Tsaritsa. If those theories about Childe eventually betraying her are true, he might actively seek his old teacher for help in that arc of the story.

[@harshittikka5705]

And there are certain rumours childe will die in 2.2 against scaramouche

[@imthetwo336]

@@harshittikka5705 huh tf

[@scar_icemouche]

@@harshittikka5705 It's not confirmed that he'll die, the leak literally said "Childe's fate remains unknown".

[@jakthesac5175]

@@harshittikka5705 it’s more likely he’ll return to the abyss. It wouldn’t make sense to kill him this early

[@wontons2125]

@@harshittikka5705 NOOOO omfg my sweet Childe ;-;

[@dianasaurstudio]

I’ve always suspected Paimon of being something or someone more important than they let on, simply because of how sus it is for a magical guide to suddenly appear before you after coming to the world. Think about it: does Aloy have a Paimon?! I think not.

[@tobilovesjellyfish]

she also has the symbol of celestia on her clothes, the star symbol that is often showed on characters that come from Kheanri'ah as well as the twins' clothes and some of their other stuff, it is also shown all over the game and is the shape of the 'portal' the unknown god comes out of (after she comes out it forms three stars), Paimons clothes also have the pattern that is shown on the bottom of some of the statues of the seven (Venti's and Zhongli's to be specific) the fact that she has the at the bottom of her sleeves and the bottom of her pants just as it is placed at the bottom of the statues. Don't get me wrong though, the symbol is also shown on some of the pillars that we see in the loading screen before the game starts so it might not mean she's a god specifically maybe she's just an extremely valuable piece of Teyvat. I'm not quite sure myself but I definitely agree when you say Paimon may be suspicious.

[@bekykiller5790]

No Aloy doesn't have a Paimon, but Aloy has the traveler as her guide, and who guides the traveler...? Paimon.

[@PhotriusPyrelus]

This is kind of an Anime trope, isn't it? The goofy/annoying/cute/seemingly-useless sidekick being of paramount importance.

[@rexlapis4025]

Aloy isn't cannon though.

[@sosopwsi829Jjw9]

Aloy isn't part of the lore

[@alixxoxo9853]

i like the thought that time is the eighth element. it'd basically mean it is the most important but also the weakest element. without the king, the game is over, but the king himself cannot do anything. paimon is the one who guides us through the game, without her we cannot play. however she herself doesn't have a huge impact on the actual game.

[@TinkRomero]

What if the 8th element is actually light/dark. As you mentioned, there is a show of black and white, alternatively shadow and light. The achievements for activating all the Statues of the Seven say “Light up the entire (nation) map” but when we get to activating Teleport Waypoints, it says Unlock. Plus, each Statue says the same thing “The world opens itself before those with noble hearts.” This isn’t just us collecting some part of a map, this is the world opening itself up to us, because of a noble heart. Also there have been multiple mentions of Light devices, especially around Old Mondstadt. And the closest mention to shadows I could find is … a boss drop material from Childe … Now as for Paimon being the forgotten God of Time, I have two things to say about. The Noble heart that I mentioned earlier, might be her heart, because Gnosis in Chinese are called “Heart of God”. And the second thing I have to say is … about the time menu itself, when you go to the time clock, you can see five Latin words on it (the Latin alphabet is in this game, yes) and when I translated the alphabet into English alphabet, I got … “qwert” … you can look into it yourself because I have zero idea what to do with that information, but it might potentially be related to the Time element.

[@TylerSolvestri]

Indeed, Dainsleif has a mysterious element btw

[@Error_Redacted]

Isnt qwert the first five letters of a keyboard?

[@summerblossom841]

@@Error_Redacted qwerty keyboard

[@paklekj4429]

@@summerblossom841 qwerty layout theres so much other keyboard layout other thsn qwerty

[@trailblazercombi]

Albedo in his story quest speculated Paimon to be some kind of an external organ So perhaps, the Traveler's power comes from Paimon, not the traveler themself?

[@aildjancollado603]

So Basically Genshin is an Open World 10OO IQ 5D Chess. Damn

[@krazie7477]

They’re playing with Eastern pieces on a Chinese checkers board, to boot, since they’re’s six sides

[@NamiiWavee]

Yea basically we're all really smart because we play 50000 IQ chess

[@psychott6]

Bro, have you seen the person that decodes ruin guards in all dragonspine?! Genshin players range from petty metaslaves to big brain beauties

[@Gumiparfait]

@@psychott6 yoo is there a link to that

[@marxiusivanadolfdenniellom2162]

They quoted "Teyvat chapter" in the storyline preview so, there might be other worlds we could venture on

[@IslandXD]

:o

[@bqh3795]

that's why there're so many theories about the 2 games being connected btw I am having the feeling that Teyvat is just ONE game in a series of matches

[@mageshdev4158]

Well, fishl is literally from another world( or universe🤔)

[@protiiiiiiiiiim]

@@mageshdev4158 no

[@protiiiiiiiiiim]

@@mageshdev4158 she just puts on a delusional front to cope with her lonliness and pride'

[@Rubior426]

coming here after 3.2, you were absolutely right. probably you make the best genshin theory, when the electro gnosis was shown I immediately thought about your video, I give a lot of my faith in your theories, keep it up

[@thegameaddict2130]

its gonna be a bit of a stretch but hear me out, the "other player" is traveler's sibling. she already has travelled the land of teyvat before we woke up so we can assume she has already gotten all the elements(either from the statue of the seven like us or from the opposing team's gods) and possibly been able to combine them all and harnessed a power that has let them "jump the board" and became a player themself, taking control of the opposing "black" chess pieces.

[@mrdedenne9714]

Do u realise that’s we all know that the other traveller is our traveller siblings

[@thegameaddict2130]

@@mrdedenne9714 ...wat

[@cad1848]

@@mrdedenne9714 i think they mean that there are two players in chess, one is traveller and one is their sibling. their sibling plays opposing the mc.

[@ii.slothfulness]

Think ab it!! We're the black pieces!! Paimon the traveler and the rest!! Why, because white attack first and Black defends

[@thegameaddict2130]

@@cad1848 close, we ourselves aren't players yet, we are kept in the dark for just about anything as of rn and the "players" are those who sees every piece and the layout of the pieces so the "players" are someone else(celestia/unknown god/ect) vs our sibling and we might become a player ourselves in the future once we discover all the secrets in the world

[@abyandevadi1984]

Fun Fact : Allogenes in Japanese is called 'Genshin" I mean the name of the game is "Genshin Impact", is it possible that at the end of the story the MC will rise to the position of god and have a tremendous impact?

[@jamiejam9976]

This is a Chinese game

[@jakemight7349]

@@jamiejam9976 yes it's a chinese game with anime styled visual. and the title of the game is literally English+japanese

[@abyandevadi1984]

@@jamiejam9976 u can hear it while Traveler and Venti have conversation in the end of Act.1

[@I_XuMuK_I]

MC is not an allogene tho. They don't have a vision.

[@Akumaunit00]

@@I_XuMuK_I why they are important, hence they make an impact on a world that has a set rules of vision holder to G-D, hence they are the impact to the system

[@argilium]

Since you mentioned that Baal (electro) had a bishop gnosis by associating the shape of the statue, and positing that hydro archon has a knight gnosis, it is also very suspect that the two revealed abyss elite units have a similar motif. Abyss Lector (electro) looks like a priest, or a bishop Abyss Herald (hydro) looks like a warrior, or a knight Maybe it's the abyss that have the black pieces.

[@Mrityunjay7]

That does make quite a lot of sense actually

[@amforalice]

that's quite interesting

[@cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725]

Absolutely. Heralds look so weird in design. Like walking chest pieces

[@aureliaavalon]

@@cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725 oh my god yes I wasn't the only one thinking that they looked like statues. Mihoyo better release a genshin impact themed chessboard once the game is nearly over.

[@Rose-85]

@@aureliaavalon that would be neat

[@fkjay]

Fun Fact: Long ago, in chess there wasn't a Queen, the Queen was added some time later as an important role.

[@Martiiiiiiin]

this kinda makes sense, Tsaritsa might be the only archon daring enough to try to fight against celestia (sustainer of heavenly principles), but not directly... by collecting all the gnoses and weakening the player, basically serving it for the other player. She knows that she can't deal with the celestia on her own so she is doing all she can to weaken it so the other player can take it out

[@TheLKStar]

As far as I know we never found out what Zhongli contract was in return for his gnosis, maybe he thinks it's the only way to fight the heavenly principles.

[@looots1320]

It makes sense for Lumine to arrive first, after all she's wearing white or the white pawn In chess white moves first

[@julesrojas4210]

If you pick Lumine, then Aether arrives first according to the story quests.

[@riechronicles]

@@julesrojas4210 though canonically since Aether is the main protagonist, it makes more sense

[@quackquackDUCKS]

Even chess have white privilege IM JUST JOKING DONT TAKE ME SERIOUSLY I hope no one gets offended

[@riechronicles]

@@quackquackDUCKS LMAOOO PLSSSSS

[@aureliaavalon]

@@riechronicles i suppose Mihoyo juggled with the option of Aether being main protagonist, before making a business decision to let players freely choose between the twins Aether and Lumine as your Traveller. It was definitely a smart move in my view, because it happened in the middle of the first cutscene which made you go "woahhhh... i can choose?"

[@paklekj4429]

Funfact: allogenes in japan dub is called "genshin" yes the game title

[@hachikuji_mayoi]

allogene impact

[@maerialist]

why did i pronounce allogenes in a french accent

[@shafinsadiq]

Genshin means original God

[@Stag_Z]

@@shafinsadiq Original God Impact

[@Aaadapro]

@@shafinsadiq ah it makes sense because the mc and their sibling are the the most ancient and original gods in genshin

[@thienphucn1]

You were right about the Electro Gnosis being the Bishop

[@kate_07]

It’s too similar for Paimon’s reference to the “Ars Goetia” for it not to be unintentional, clearly Mihoyo knew about “King Paimon” and heavily based his description similar to Paimons (you can find this on the wikipage about King Paimon in Ars Goetia) King Paimons personality is mainly described as “Loud noises and bright lights tend to make him more active. He is can also be surprisingly very colorful and very friendly. ( While also having large amounts of hatred for mortals) “Out of all the Goetia demons, Paimon has some of the strongest loyalties to Lucifer.” Almost like how Paimon is loyal to Lumine and Aether, “He has an unnaturally loud voice and when continuing speaking at such ear-splitting volume the summoner has to command Paimon to alter his speech in order to understand him” 𝙸𝚏 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚍𝚎𝚜𝚌𝚛𝚒𝚙𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚍𝚘𝚎𝚜𝚗𝚝 𝚜𝚌𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖 𝚙𝚊𝚒𝚖𝚘𝚗 𝚒𝚍𝚔 𝚠𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚍𝚘𝚎𝚜. “He can reveal answers to such mysteries as the nature of the Earth, the location of the Abyss, and the origin of the wind. He can bestow dignitaries and provide familiars against enemies while binding anyone resisting him in his own chains.” Just like how paimon always gives us random information in each region.

[@Jasmina1Urata]

I WAS WONDERING WHERE PAIMONS NAME CAME FROM

[@venti9925]

This is like..... Level 1 lore XD. But yeah, if you didn't catch on, Aether and Lumine are literally called morning stars. XD

[@venti9925]

Since everyone's behind, Fontaines Archon is named Focalor. Also in the ars goetia, destined to return to hell after 1000 years of drowning innocents in the sea. Also, Fontaine is right above Celestia. Lol now speak about that instead of the level 1 stuff

[@ardensklopher2265]

@@venti9925 chill.... we're not some kind of no-liver to actually open ars goetia or something and read all the pages to understand anime game with gambling addiction as its business model.

[@moramorae]

Also may I add that in 2.0 update, there's a dialogue about Paimon claiming (maybe jokingly, maybe not) that she's the god of protection who tries to protect Traveler. If you read Sacrificial Sword's lore, it describes about the God of Time and the God of Anemo. Interestingly, it states more or less "the story of courage to protect" or something.

[@yukishiro3287]

Paimon didn't joke. The tone used in English doesn't really match with some other voices. Paimon seemed to have a monologue until Traveller talked. In that monologue, she was talking about a herb in Inazuma and how she has to protect the Traveller in the same way the herb protects other plants

[@moramorae]

​@@yukishiro3287 Yup, personally I think she's not joking. I used CN voice btw! But there's no hard evidence whether she's 100% serious or "joking", hence why I put "maybe jokingly, maybe not" there hehe. I mean joking about the god of protection part, not the protecting part :o

[@yukishiro3287]

@@moramorae Ah. I see. But it is clear for everyone that Paimon is a god, but that no one notices. It's strange that canonly, Traveller doesn't question about Paimon's origins and who she usedto be

[@moramorae]

@@yukishiro3287 Yes, it's strange indeed. For Traveler though, sometimes I wonder if they know something but they pretend like they don't for some reasons. Maybe they are still suspicious with the nature of this world, or maybe they just cherish Paimon that much? Either way I'm very interested how it would be. Paimon is my favourite character afterall :D

[@yukishiro3287]

@@moramorae Mine too❤️

[@thanglongnguyenvu3815]

There's still the Dark Sea and the abandoned gods from the Archon War. There's a possibility we'll explore the Dark Sea which also has multiple regions. Those abandoned gods may be the representation for the opposing side of the board.

[@AnilKumar-hp1qg]

If the Dark Sea contains Bubble Universes, we may not know that we have entered the Sea of Quanta.

[@jazzeetazzee7800]

At last, I've found someone who mentions how we might venture into the Dark Sea

[@ngk4279]

@@jazzeetazzee7800 the upcoming area in inazuma called 'enkanomiya' is connected with the dark sea (leaks on reddit)

[@AlixRaph]

Maybe we'll explore the dark sea if there will be a genshin impact 2?

[@AnilKumar-hp1qg]

@@AlixRaph The dark sea was already mentioned as the Black Sea in the beta map, maybe Il Dottore will make a poison from the power of the dark sea to poison the Irminsul Tree of Sumeru

[@pixiestyx8844]

A heavy thought is that Signora might come back, moths are a simple of reincarnation and second life, much like Signora who returned each archon quest in some way, either through childe or in person. I feel we’ll find that she isn’t really dead, she’s just recovering. The thought of recovering is also further proven by the cocoon that she enters in between stages

[@weyr4841]

If we associate Paimon as the God of Time, and Dainsleif as the opposing king due to him also being related to the traveler, could we assume that the abyssal element is Space? In the cutscene where the 2 travelers meet each other, the one from the abyss seems to tear through space maybe hinting that the abyss uses the power of space. Although maybe this is all wrong because you previously said that no one can take the form of the king’s element, but we can see the traveler as well as the abyss herald using it at the hanging statue in the act IV prelude quest, or maybe they don’t exactly use Dainsleif’s power as theirs is more purple compared to Dainsleif’s blue

[@ellielee6359]

ooh i really like that idea, time vs space

[@seifinator4723]

The traveler might be able to take the kings element since they can take any element as long as they can connect to it. Might be something there

[@dollguts9801]

if u look back at the archive and pay attention to the dialogue to what dain is saying it seems like they want to make their *own* god

[@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102]

What about the blue thing that comes out of domain floors ?

[@dollguts9801]

@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102 What do you mean?

[@noisejunkie8159]

8:10 paimon also shows up when you pause the game where you pretty much pause time, almost like she's the one pausing time. more proof that paimon's the time archon!

[@ARCEUS493ZELDA]

plus she moves during such as well which seems oddly suspect

[@ghhlx9863]

im pretty sure its canon that she is the one speeding the time ip

[@cad1848]

i thought it was canon that they were camping and resting at the time but idk-

[@foxtailclips2974]

Plus, during tartaglia s fight, when the ground breaks and the floor crumbles you fall. BUT when you fall you stay in the air for a bit, everything else is still kind of falling but you and paimon aren’t. Also, for raiden shogun, when she is about to kill you, there is no way Thoma was fast enough to lift up a spear and throw it at raiden fast enough for you to no be cut in half, perhaps paimon helped? This would also explain why she can float, she just stops the time underneath her.

[@noisejunkie8159]

@@foxtailclips2974 HOLY SHIT YOU'RE SMART

[@patrickhoover8501]

If you look in the traveler’s bio, it says: “The keeper is fading away (the sustainer); the creator has not yet come. But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend.” Perhaps the creator is the opposing player, and the sustainer disappears and the traveler becomes the other player. Just an idea.

[@roombadoomba143]

the keeper meaning paimon? a time keeper, sustainer of time and she's fading away growing small in size than the other archon

[@patrickhoover8501]

@@roombadoomba143 the keeper, meaning the sustainer of heavenly principles.

[@ariwijaya538]

Could it mean that our mc will be the successor of the unknown god? I smell bad ending where the mc has to fight their sibling, or worse, killing each other. Seeing how our mc befriends all the known archon

[@firby7341]

@@patrickhoover8501 isnt dains official title something like vow keeper?

[@juwx]

or it could be something connected to honkai

[@sakethsonu]

Dain and paimon are even more alike. As paimon is the travel companion of the current sibling, dain is the travelling companion of the other twin. As mentioned by dain himself in his quest. 🧐

[@jeyycereal6942]

Only the Queen piece can move in different direction signifying freedom, which is why Venti has the queen gnosis. If you can notice we are able to manipulate the time in the game, we can possibly control it due to paimon's presence

[@ravenl.twilight3377]

Kinda remind of one of the loading screen sentences "Time 'flies' when contemplating life, the universe and everything" and Paimon does indeed 'floating' all the time

[@danielvinceneo3556]

MY THEORY: When Scaramouche said that the sky is a lie, he probably witness something about "who are the PLAYER" .(The player of the chess pieces) Maybe he saw that the world of Tevyat is just a big chess board ANOTHER Theory for who's the opposing side: It will simply be the "Angels". Because all the archons have the name/representation of the DEVILS name from The Lesser Key of Solomon, there is a book about The Minor Key of Solomon which is the 72 ANGELS which is assigned to "control" the demons. But for who's the one representing them in-game...probably have never been mentioned But HEY,thats just a theory, A GENSHIN THEORY

[@SakuraRachel180]

So the world of teyvat isn’t a chess board. Basically the best way to explain it is teyvat is actually just a bubble world and it’s the version of the world before honkai. Teyvat lies on something called the imaginary tree that holds millions of other worlds

[@Max-E-Mum]

Gave me Kairos Theory

[@meganekkoi3282]

What if all of Teyvat, overworld and abyss, is a gigantic chess board?

[@meganekkoi3282]

@who tao what if nopium is true?

[@Ari_journal]

@@SakuraRachel180 the first theory looks like some dead-pool talking to people through screen like shit but its actually a great theory

[@adiya1452]

Watching this a year later, with the dendro archon “hiding their appearance due to some force outside of their control”. That’s exactly what she did. The accuracy is crazy!

[@TheCyberGoblin]

I have a few thoughts on the king gnosis: Option 1: The Unknown God has it Option 2: Some hypothetical boss of the UG has it Option 3: The Traveller will be given it by Celestia because events will force them to Option 4: The King Gnosis does not currently exist, but the Tsarista is gathering the other ones in order to merge them together into the King.

[@pastellovedoodlepotato1209]

You have read my mind.

[@atriyakoller136]

Number four has an interesting implication since Tsaritsa means queen in Russian

[@hydraz6935]

Number 4 is great

[@aureliaavalon]

@@atriyakoller136 A rook trying to defy fate and be a queen sounds interesting. If anything, in chess only the Pawn can turn into a Queen, right? That means, if Paimon really is the King, and Venti's gnosis is taken away, then the Traveller can stand in and be the next Queen once the traveller reaches the end of the chessboard. Or in other words, the end of the journey. A pawn becoming the most powerful piece on the board.

[@amosp9411]

Holy heck this is giving me goosebumps

[@gailcaps7689]

Imagine using your Waverider on like big bodies of water and just see a group of Cryo slimes hopping over to the next piece of land

[@someoneunspecial1729]

Theory: Right before khaenri'ah's destruction, paimon travelled forward through time in order to not be destroyed alongside it. Then ending up with the traveler after being saved. If you look at Dainsleif and Paimon, you can spot a lot of similiarities in their designs. Both have a cape that resembled the night sky and 4 sided stars in their clothing(For paimon it's in her hair). When fast forwarding/pausing the game, Paimon always appeared which is a little bit impossible to not have any purpose to it. Notice that you can only pause and forward time but never rewind it. There was also a theory that Khaenri'ah was an island near Mondsdadt. With the island of wind and time being in the middle of both nations.We first met paimon not too far from speculated location of Khaenri'ah. Once paimon went to the future, she might've fell into the sea and almost drowned.

[@spadedqueen184]

This theory is actually so underrated and smart! I completely agree. This could just be a coincidence but the mysterious island not on the map is the closest to the theorized place of Khaenri’ah and appears to have a time related mechanism on it. I think the fact it’s not on the map and it’s closest to Khaenri’ah may elude that it actually was a part of Khaenri’ah. Not to mention how degraded it was. One other thing is the ruin guard on the island. Ruin guards are speculated to being tied to Khaenri’ah and the abyss. How did it get on that island? Since ruin guards are usually protectors I believe that the people of Khaenri’ah may have placed a ruin guard there to defend the mechanism. Of course this could all be coincidental but it is interesting.

[@aureliaavalon]

@@spadedqueen184 Oh my god. They said the God of Wind used to be worshipped alongside the God of Time, until the God of Time vanished from history. What if she vanished because THAT'S EXACTLY when Paimon decided to travel to the future? And THAT'S when she was technically erased from the current history then? What irks me is that Barbatos/Venti doesn't seem to give any indication that he knows who Paimon is though, despite being worshipped with her.

[@frostyeyes7358]

The god of wind prior to venti is decarabian. It might be that paimon and decarabian is somewhat related. Zhongli who is the oldest of the archons kept his mouth shut due to some contract

[@ant0editsstuffd211]

@@aureliaavalon thats why she teases venti sm

[@leelisi2164]

@@aureliaavalon That made me realised... perhaps that's why Venti woke up after sleeping for 500ish years around the same time as when the Traveller fished Paimon out, because he sensed the god of time's presence. That may be also why he slept at around 500 years ago, because after he sensed the god of time's disappearance, he decided that there was no point in the people worshipping him without the god of time by his side so he decided to go into a deep sleep. As for why Venti didn't recognise Paimon... hmm perhaps the time travel took up too much of her power until she was unrecognisable? Just like how Zhongli did not recognise Kun Jun to be a part of Azhdaha because the power left inside Kun Jun was so little that he faded away after we fought Azhdaha.

[@grapesky]

I came back here after the Interlude Teaser and SHEEESH.

[@bluespeir2068]

sameeee

[@captainvalourous6668]

I still cant believe that your Signora Theory came true 🤣

[@deathwingthedestroyer3632]

I wish they did more with her instead of killing her off and they really have lost their “game” and now spiralling into lazy writing.

[@captainvalourous6668]

@@deathwingthedestroyer3632 To be honest I have a feeling that she might be ressurected someday by Il Dottore's science ( if you know the manga ).

[@Nameless422-]

@@captainvalourous6668 that requires this community that tends to not read things, to actually read that. there's quite a lot of lore that's been sprinkled through the game so far, but some players expect to be hand held through it all instead of actually discovering/exploring it on their own

[@jadecoolness101]

@@captainvalourous6668 Her entire motif is based on resurrection so it could go either way imo.

[@aphaedes1820]

@@deathwingthedestroyer3632 i think mihoyo is foreshadowing that most of the harbingers will have the same fate as signora and starting off with signora is great start, i guess the harbingers are playing tug off war with death

[@ElsePerson]

Also, does Aether and Lumine's different stats have any role in this? I still find it weird that they have made Lumine's base Atk higher than Aether's despite the two being optional characters to play as that should mean they have the same stats.

[@IslandXD]

Very sus indeed

[@OmniDragonWarrior]

This could be because Mihoyo considers Lumine as abyss sibling which is more powerfull than Aether

[@Chopsparillo]

Maybe because Aether is faster, they felt like Lumine should get an advantage too? Idk.

[@lum5826]

nah I think that it’s because of how lumine was probably the main dps/attacker when they were fighting together and aether kinda like a tanker. We can see how aether hits towards the ground and lumine higher up, also showing that they probably covered each other’s backs before

[@sohamparikh5719]

Might be a gameplay move, cause I read it that lumine has higher multipliers but her animations r slower too, so her MVs are same as aether

[@DungNguyen-xk8ss]

Now that you talk about the pair of element, I noticed that the samachurls in a pair also have kind of similar skill. Geo and cryo both create pillars of the same elements. Dendro one can summon three thorny vines and electro can summon lighting totems (which I believe to be 3 per samachurl at max). Pyro samachurl isn’t in the game yet so we can not say anything about the hydro - pyro pair (Sorry if I made any mistakes, English is not my first language)

[@foxzero99gaminglaptopadven60]

(will update when more suff comes out) ALSO SPOILERS Anemo -Queen (Confirmed) -Anemo slime relation : Venti can fly and dvalin (from video) Geo -Rook (Confirmed) -Geo slime relation : Mora and azhdaha and stuff (from video) Electro -Bishop (Confirmed) -Electro slime relation : two different slimes that disagree with each other, as too ei and makoto's very different views on "eternity" Dendro -Bishop (Not sure) -Dendro slime relation : nahida hiding herself and mind controlling her people to see the outside world because she was caged the by the akademiya/rukhedavata having forbidden knowledge that acts like a parasite to her people. she too an infecting parasite on all of sumeru and have to get rid of her too cleanse the world Hydro -Knight (not sure) -Slime relation : most likely fona\taine is rich in nature even underwater, and focalor trapping her people in a bubble using the law and regulation (idk) Pyro -Knight (not sure) -Slime relation : War=anger (idk) Cryo -Rook (not sure) -Slime relatiion : has a shield potecting itself or saying doesnt let barely anyone in scheznaya, freest because of all the fatuis sattered around and with all the relationship UNCOFIRMED ZONE Time -King (Idk) -there are no statues or anything to make traveler have a time element, considering this as the king, the pawn cant be the king. And without time, the world just, stops, it ends like if the king gets checkmate, then boom, game ended (maybe if paimon is evil, she would be the last boss, and when we defeat her, genshin ends, the game ends and we go to a different world, or saying a different game) Omni/Light -Pawn (Idk) -The pawn can transform into anything but the king wich all other elements arent the king. And ;light can reflect everything, and reflecting diferent elements too.and if a pawn dies, its just a pawn. there will be more, like how descenders from nahida, there can be more descenders than just us -EDIT ONE : As to the last part, the sibling we chose is black, the other is white. us black are from different worlds and not from the white area wich represents tevyat, and from the new update, nahida says "Us (the sibling we chose) is a descender, someone from another world. but Our sibling (the one we didnt choose) has alot of info about them, wich can only mean. THEY BELONG TO THIS WORLD"

[@hornetisspider]

thank you for this comment. please reply to my comment when you update this, this is useful.

[@sucrosesupremacy4526]

In the starting of Genshin before you even load into the game that screen w all the clouds and columns and paths and lady singing those columns kind of look like a gnosis

[@reothomas7624]

Aether and Lumine represent pawns from both sides, one sibling with the abyss and other against abyss

[@venason]

He said that in the video

[@gurumi3360]

No shit Sherlock

[@isdrakon9802]

I'm not even against the abyss anymore, I'd join them if we could

[@penisboss5976]

Personally i think that the player would end up being the other “player”, or at least have the option to choose to be. They’ve set it up in such a way that the player would be able to choose to overthrow celestia, stay neutral, or side with celestia through the quests with Dain. He is the only one who has given the player an actual choice, and different perspective after all.

[@yukichan177]

if ppl side with celestia they have rly sick minds.. celestia only wanted to get ri of kaenariah cus they didnt have a god & they advanceed technologicly: thats it... it rly sick reaoson to destroy a whole nation, force the archons to shut up about it: aka morax cant talk about it cus contract.

[@LuZErTX]

@@yukichan177 Maybe they had a good reason to get rid of kaenriah, we dont know for sure atm.

[@prodigy1636]

@@LuZErTX exactly. What we do know is that Kaenriah got too ahead of themselves and so they had to be destroyed. The question then is, what did they do to anger Celestia so much that is meant their destruction and still scares the archons to this day? I have a theorey that when the twins were going from world to world and came across Kaenriah, they might've given them something that put them ahead of everyone else. And so, that's why the heavenly principle lady took Lumine (or whoever you didn't pick idk)

[@happyname6611]

@@yukichan177 I mean, Khaenriah literally attacked all other nations... Celestia had good reason to destroy them

[@NamiiWavee]

@@yukichan177 we don't even know why but because you said that if we ever get that choice I'm so siding with Celestia

[@caz3280]

Seeing the Sumeru Archon Quest now, I cant believe how close your predicted description is to the real quest, nice job with the video

[@noctisorchard9052]

All the details and stories, incredible. This is why I fucking love this game. They even wrote the Godamn books

[@sino22]

i believe it makes more sense that the pawns of the archon side are their servants paimon's being traveler, venti's being dvalin, zhongli's being azhdaha, and ei's being yae, gold's being his dragon. this also implies that zhongli's oposing side, osial might be or have a master/servant

[@thecrystalliaguild]

ok that just seems so cool about Osial having a servant

[@orenji29]

Abyss was planning on weaponizing Osial too. Venti’s opposing side would have Durin.

[@Paper-Parrot]

Very interesting video! But there is something I have to nitpick on: the names from the Ars Goetia. The seven Archons are not the only ones with those names. Consider Decarabia(n), Marchosias (Guoba's true name), Osial (possibly either Ose or Orias), Havria (Havres, also known as Flauros), the Heart of Naberius in Albedo's backstory, Orobashi (Orobas), Andrius (Andras)... even the Unknown God's model is called Asmoday within the game files. My personal headcanon is that they are the names given to the *candidates* for position of Archon, and Paimon is also one such candidate that has, perhaps, been forgotten by time. Which brings me to a second thing that I'm surprised you didn't mention: Erosion, in relation to the God of Time. The game really emphasizes how the ravages of time erase memories, leading to many things to be forgotten by all - such as the God of Time themselves. This also plays a big part in Zhongli and Ei's stories, and will undoubtedly be explored more as the story progresses. Who knows, perhaps the God of Time no longer remembers that they're the God of Time.

[@idkwhattousehere]

Mayyyybeeee the god of time passed bc nobody worshipped him and Paimon was/is the next to be God of time (explaining her abilities in the game to pause and fast forward and disappear) but for some unknown reason Paimon doesn't remember much of her past and thus never ascended as God of Time. Paimon is one of a kind and Mihoyo has hinted she is pretty powerful or maybe she's a spy from Celestia so she can become the god of time(?) Idk 😂 it will probably take some years before we know the truth

[@miguito1086]

@@idkwhattousehere Imagine if paimon actually accpected to fight with us when we told wagner to forge her a tiny sword at the start of the game 💀💀

[@alexprus7953]

They might be simply names given to gods to signify that they come from outside Teyvat

[@rezt3797]

@@idkwhattousehere hmmm. The current quest RN, Racoon called Paimon . . . Spymon. Maybe foreshadowing

[@pozzsicle]

@@idkwhattousehere A spy from Celestia sounds really interesting to be honest, but I hope she doesn't turn out to be evil. I'm so tired of that trope, of the main character's best friend actually having been evil this whole time, and now they have to fight them and, just ugh. Yoimiya put it the best in her quest, why can't good things stay good? If they do that, I pray she has a change of heart at the end, where she realizes what she has been doing, and stops. It's at least better than her being the big bad the whole time, in my opinion.

[@judesliggoo]

Because you correctly theorized the circumstances around the Dendro Archon, I can't wait to finally see the stories of the others

[@guillaumefrancoise5250]

After watching the video, I'm beginning to think that maybe Aether and Lumine are the players who are on this board to complete their objectives by using the different elements as chess pieces and by interacting with the archons

[@roombadoomba143]

My thoughts: The other player fighting against the unknown god is US the real game player. Maybe. I reach this conclusion because at the start of the game in the cinematics, the Unknown God tells us to pick a side... to pick a sibling... to pick.. a color... So, the game really begins when you have pick a sibling and that's when we play the game of chess. We first met paimon, the king on our side. Why? because she dictates every move that the sibling that we choose. She tells us to do this and that.. like.. commanding a soldier. When it's time to speak, the pawn/soldier never speak before its king. The one doing the speaking is the King................ and in the game itself, you have experience it.. The only time we really do speak is when we're speaking to paimon at the beginning and never spoken again even when we faced our other sibling. Yes I know, we do speak in the game but not with a voice. The only time we can hear our sibling of choice voice is when we talk to them (using the voice line in the menu) but maybe my theory is copium. Also if you realize, Venti and Zhongli being a true archon requires slime condensate to "ascend" to the next level meanwhile Raiden Shogun (Ei) who is a "shadow" of Electro Archon "Makoto" requires no slime material and instead using steel (katana handguards) because she's using a puppet's body. Btw, what do you think about the sky frost nail in the dragonspine? is it some form of a pillar gate from celestia? or maybe it used to be Paimon's statue of the seven but because she was and is still forgotten by the people of Teyvat, the statue crumbles and Paimon shrink in size, losing most of her powers and memories? She lost it maybe because People of Khaenri'ah used to worship Paimon and now that they cannot worship Paimon any longer, she lost most her powers. The nail depiction looks really familiar of that the pillar part of the statue of of the seven. Maybe it differs in size because paimon the archon time having "Time" powers and no human can defy the power of time.

[@IMN0TF0X]

You just said everything I’ve been thinking

[@Herlock_Sholmes]

This is nice but we do speak when Keqing asks us what is the price we want. The traveler says "Well could you help me put up some missing posters?" In their own voice while Paimon is there.

[@hallelion]

Copying this from my reddit: Currently there are only three types of Whopperflowers in-game: Pyro, Cryo, and Electro Notice that there are no Anemo or Geo Whopperflowers. Then notice how we didn't have any direct battle/conflicts against their respective Archons as we played their Archon Quests. We did have a fight against the Raiden Shogun, and there exists Electro Whopperflowers. This speculation could be easily overturned with each Nation's release (particularly Sumeru and Fontaine), but if those Nations get released without their respective elemental Whopperflowers, and their corresponding Archons treated us similarly to how Venti and Zhongli treated us, they maybe we could correlate the existence of Whopperflowers of an element as an indicator of the possibility of conflict between the Traveler and the element's Archon.

[@rasyid7202]

So we will fight pyro archon😳😳😳

[@El-E009]

@@rasyid7202 😳😳

[@grapeyard1778]

@@rasyid7202 since she's the God of war, it wouldn't be surprising if she wanted to fight us

[@icevee686]

@@rasyid7202 I mean they are the God of War after all

[@KBomi]

Also we can say about spectre too, we have anemo, geo and hydro, we can think they will treat us kindly, anemo and geo no one has fight then, we just help them and go on without any anger from the archons towards us, maybe it will happen to hydro too.

[@offdawnsgaming118]

Love how you were completely right about the comparison between the dendro slime and the dendro archon Nahida. INSANE.😮

[@Juniorwers]

okay dude but the sudden final lesson was unexpected like give a warning before so i can actually prepare myself

[@IslandXD]

Suffer with me

[@herrscheroftheend1963]

@@IslandXD oh _no_

[@kaeiya6560]

@@IslandXD lemme join

[@bqh3795]

@@IslandXD imma join too

[@callmeandoru2627]

I’m more interested in the fact that I Dain and the sibling used to be traveling companion like how Paimon and the traveler is. Imagine Dain was fished out of a pond

[@binniee9326]

💀what if the pairing is Paimon and Dainseilf with opposing king chest piece LMAO Edit : I think it might be possible since the sibling had Dain as their partner, and with the whole syzygy thing maybe dain and Paimon are a pairing. (the following is just a crazy assumption and shouldn't be taken seriously). Since Paimon can let us fast forward the time in the menu, what if Dain can go back in time? Then that's how we can go to Khaenriah later on in the game?

[@nitrothekiller2139]

A little theory on the Black and White Pieces, and which one are we: If we consider that Aether is the canon traveler and lumine is the canon Abyss princess and the colors on their clothes, this would make us the black side, and the Abyss would be the white side. Also, Aether has a white scarf and, in my eyes, this IS hinting a possible change of side on Khaenri'ah's Chapter, probably. Now, I know this causes a bit of a problem in chess, since, there are no situations in which you can force a change of side on any pieces, but if we consider the line of the Jester on the Fatui's trailer: "Because on "this chessboard, checkmate is NOT where the game ends" this would mean that the traditional rules of chess are far less restricted here, so you CAN force a change of sides and you CAN make a pawn become a king, although you need to do a very hard set of steps in order to do so, what those steps are: I HAVE NO IDEA. Still, I hope you give me your opinion on this theory and tell me if you think I'm right or wrong. Thanks for reading

[@dn-pu8oo]

omg this made me think abt sum things !! in chess the white side goes first (the twin who joins the abyss, who’s implied to canonically be lumine, the one in white) whereas the black side goes after (aether, the twin who wakes up after lumine has finished what she’s done)

[@santiagoblanco6006]

Now that I think about it, we found paimon in monstadt (where she was used to be worshiped just like venti) and when we pause the game she Is the onlyone who can still move sugesting that "maybe" she can control the Time, also from her pause menu you can "control" the time of the day.

[@herrscheroftheend1963]

Who knows, both the travelers and mc are themes on stars as well, as well, Paimon is also the only one able to move when the game is paused as well

[@zenzenitha]

Also the location where paimon was supposedly fished out was not far away from that Island with time dial monument

[@santiagoblanco6006]

@@zenzenitha wow, yeah now that you mention it that Is true, nice one

[@anastasijavasiljeva4447]

When we start the game, time is paused, if you haven't noticed. Paimon possibly stopped time because of her drowning.

[@MysticV44]

You know…this game always gave me a “No game No life” vibe with the world traveling, and chess pieces for each nation and everything. Even more vibe when the main character of “No Game No Life” are two NEET otakus, and Mihoyo’s slogan just happens to be “Tech otakus can save the world”.. 😆

[@mari82914]

now since you said that i'm also getting those vibes lol

[@NamiiWavee]

wait I get those vibes too now😭

[@argynyergaliyev333]

I think the opposing player is a leader of the Abyss, whoever it is, as Paimon said at the end of the Traveler quest, we don't know if our sibling is highest in the Abyss.

[@herrscheroftheend1963]

Imagine if our sibling ends up being the final boss, like I can’t wait to give Aether and old fashioned whooping for what her did

[@Black.Spades]

Perhaps the first heir who went after the pearl but got corrupted (battle pass story).

[@nostamors4705]

@@herrscheroftheend1963 Wow, that means if I main Aether. I can swing my golden sword at her as punishment for being away at his brother.

[@omnibeta1876]

Considering that regardless of whether you pick Aether or Lumine, both of them are considered "royal children" in terms of ranking in the Abyss (as in Prince and Princess), so there SHOULD at least one, if not TWO powers above. Well, unless it's title naming in the logic of Mario where the 3 female regents are Princesses for some reason yet the male ones are Kings

[@NightClawprower]

Cool, cool, but I don't think the element will be called time. If you remember, Kazuah can feel and identify the elements, and when he used that ability on the traveler and Paimon, he felt the usual elements, but also an element he called "Stars". So I think the last element will have a more celestial name than "Time".

[@jhrykkjutku]

Paimon's crown is unusual and could be a reference to the arms of a clock.

[@macmint6052]

This is completely something else: when Venti plays the holy de lyre, Dvalin comes up the mountain with the abyss mage. While this is normal, the sky is not, you can see Celestia in the background behind Dvalin. Just wanted to share - it fascinated me lol.

[@warbss]

man the lore of this game goes so deep. i fall in love with it even more

[@inodnal]

I came here once again, after the "Teyvat Chapter Interlude Teaser: A Winter Night's Lazzo" release

[@jimlorenzcapua2306]

Yep it actually makes sense with the loading screen itself, every element is covered through time and only means Paimon is the king.

[@paoloenrico5413]

Timmie is the other player ez. When you kill his birds he actually justs creates them again and usually uses them to observe the world

[@icevee686]

12:19 **hiding its true form** this might mean that the theories about Sumeru’s false god are actually correct??? What do y’all think?

[@luna_moondust9991]

I think that the ppl of Sumeru worship someone else than the original god I think that's would make since

[@annaairahala9462]

Considering everything mentioned about the god, yes, I think that's essentially already confirmed. Original archon is dead and the only one of authority mentioned is referred to as a "lesser lord" and not an archon. It's also mentioned that the current dendro archon is "doing nothing" in the wake of folly.

[@krazie7477]

Don’t forget the rest: “… and some regard it as a slime that has been parasitized by some special plant.” We can take that to mean something from the Abyss is attached and disfiguring them, so they might cover themselves with a hooded cloak at all times, or have locked themselves away and speak from behind curtains / a screen

[@brooklyns.b.3570]

@@krazie7477 defeating abyss mages gives you those leylines shards which could represent the parasite plant

[@maciekkrzemianowski4543]

Could it be possible for Baizhu to be dendro archon ? His design screams sumeru and he might be hiding in lyue

[@rainydaydrawingz8384]

You should totally redo this video once the Sumeru stories are out and include details from the Fatui trailer! I think it does support your theory of syzygy since the piece that captured signora was a knight, so in your theory the bishop and knight just need to be swapped (which doesn’t matter that much for this)

[@loonar6904]

Could we get a theory sometime deep diving into paimon more please? It was really interesting seeing your opinion on who she is and what part she plays but there’s a lot a confusion because of how “oblivious” she can be sometimes. Is it all an act or maybe she isn’t the original king of time, kinda like the case with the original electro archon and the current one Ei

[@DainMon]

i ve been thinking that Paimon might actually be even beyond the Sustainer in power and rank, maybe the sustainer is the king piece. Furthermore the god of time could be lumine and aether as they don't age over time and there is 2 (sun)time-dials not just one. two dials for 2 siblings

[@kazukihoshino7]

@@DainMon but the siblings aren't from teyvat originally. So the sundials could just be coincidences

[@loonar6904]

My theory before this video was that paimon was a puppet made by the sustainer to serve as a travel guide for the traveler. She can’t control the puppet, hence why paimon can be so oblivious, but she can see through it to keep an eye on the traveler

[@pieeeeeeee]

I highly doubt paimon's obliviousness being an act, but at the same time, I have no theories or evidence to back it up, I think it's a little early to do that for now, since paimon, the twins and the truth about celestia are currently the most mysterious topics in genshin

[@SabbyDarling]

What if paimon’s memories have been altered or something by celestia or because she’s got a strong connection with time

[@NikhilSharma-si2pm]

Paimon: King Venti: Queen Gender: Adios

[@HollowPhntm]

Hotel: Trivago

[@TylerSolvestri]

Game: AMONGUS

[@mihozaz2199]

Hotel: trivago

[@whotao3047]

@sourcreampringles : yes

[@arocomisgamusclademork1603]

Player: Welcome

[@guibragatto]

you know what a good theory is when your head starts hurting after you finish the video, what if the twins are not in the chess board at all but instead, they are the ones playing chess?

[@fleonez6610]

You know I was thinkinh this too the last big bodies are the twins

[@quackquackDUCKS]

It make sense kinda Because The other sibling (depends on who you pick) will be in the abbys which is the "dark" side The one you play is in the "light" side But theory will stay theory until the game finished

[@aureliaavalon]

I mean, when we consider that the twin siblings are Pawns, that means they can ascend to Bishops, Knights, Rooks, or Queens once they reach the end of the chessboard to assist the King. So in a way, the Traveller is like the deciding factor to winning or losing, definitely viable for them to be the player.

[@quackquackDUCKS]

@@aureliaavalon yes when they reached the end of the chess right?

[@hurpingbrothers7021]

@@quackquackDUCKS apparently the true cannon of the game is with aether as the traveler, and since his sister woke up first she "moved" first hence her white clothes and his black (since white always moves first in chess).

[@SunnyKimDev]

7:45 Theory: what if Paimon is not an Archon, but a moving, talking statue of the eight - the only statue of the unknown eighth god? Her design does look like a statue of the seven, and the "paimon menu" actually holds a "level" like the other SoS' - it's your AR.