All Media Critics Are Snobs | EFAP Highlight

[@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish]

> Asks what the function of snobbery is. > Brings up Aristotelian Value Ethics. I wish I could be surprised that Wisecrack tried to answer a utilitarian question with a moral argument.

[@Amirsh1776]

In my experience the people who defend a work of art can be as, if not more, snobbish as those criticizing the said work of art. How many times have we all heard people saying: "If you don't like this (modern art piece/experimental movie/etc.), then you're illiterate and unintelligent"?

[@HarryO_Possum]

"You can't appreciate its nuance." "It's not a design flaw. The design is totally intended, and you just don't get it."

[@jojobizadTRASH]

I feel like most people are too overreactive when it comes to defending art. The best way to approach the defense of criticism is to simply acknowledge criticism, respect/understand the point of view of the critic, and come out with your own perspective on why you like that work. Too many people are obsessed with making something bad "good" or making something good "bad." It's basically how that dumb TLJ drama started, lol.

[@SirCunningham-m5y]

The amount of times I have heard people in the anime fandoms say, "if you don't like this, then you're illiterate," are so often I could write a book with just that. I have been looking at people defending Bleach Thousand Year Blood War or the storytelling in Bleach and holy fuck is that type of defense prevalent in that fandom.

[@DiZtheJedi]

Literally the media literacy crowd.

[@GreenNin9323]

Yeah or someone in general who say "you don't get modern art"

[@ephraimwinslow]

"Hey low-income person with limited time & resources to spend (who expects a certain standard of quality in order to spend either) stop being a snob and give me both sight unseen."

[@spouwnerring]

The REAL snobs were the BetterHelp Promoters we met along the way.

[@KingBuilder525]

Anyone else notice the slight of hand with definitions? At the beginning of the video 'snobs' are in contrast to people who do not criticize movies, but as the video goes on 'snobs' becomes synonymous with people who care more about appearing as though they enjoy hobbies. Is the intended implication that people who criticize and don't mindlessly consume not actual enjoyers of a given thing?

[@DepressoEspresso-hk3yw]

I just want good media and a culture of good-faith criticism.

[@matalostodos]

Well put But in our socialist regimes, opinions are monitored for wrong-think, and we’ve got taxes to pay, so corrupt critics are what we get.

[@grandmasterchris9666]

It was written into the constitution that we have to right to like the Last Jedi.

[@Ranben.]

By the spider Thomas Jefferson.

[@gojira4444]

As was foretold by the spiders

[@daveo311290]

People who use the term 'media literacy' I would consider a snob.

[@TonyTama]

We went full circle to Ben Franklin writing it's our God given right to enjoy things

[@ViolentMessiah666]

Funny, it's the people that defend this slop that come off as the pretentious snobs, always telling other people "you didn't get it" or "you missed the themes" or some other elitist bs to try & defend bad media. Yeah, I'm too dumb to understand "Space Wizard" movie 😂

[@alsmith9853]

Funny when you challenge them they either ignore it and won't explain what you supposedly missed or their brain melts and they give a frantic word salad of buzzwords like metaphor, symbolic and themes

[@TheHalogen131]

Yeah, it's simultaneously a silly movie for children and a profound, deep exploration of timeless themes. So you have to take it seriously, but ONLY when praising it.

[@ephraimwinslow]

Oh, and if your fun is contingent on other people not making fun of/criticizing you? That means you *know* you're in a bubble waiting for it to be burst. You are on the same tier as a ten year old who legitimately believes that their ears dispense quarters.

[@matalostodos]

I’ve witnessed an ear dispensing quarters. Why are you allowed to post comments?

[@TheTrueRandomGamer]

Doesn't matter if they're snobs or not. 99.99% of them are garbage either way.

[@geneangrypenguin5876]

Sommeliers a lot of time are there to educate you on your purchase. Went in, explained what I knew, she answered questions I had about peaty vs smokey whiskey, gave me a sample since I wasnt familiar with peaty, and walked me over to a bottle she thought Id enjoy based on what I liked. Sell a good 40 to 60 dollar bottle and the customer trusts you to sell them a more expensive one next time.

[@videogamehunter820]

This feels like long term damage of political correctness and bubble thinking. Something as harmless as not liking a movie is seen as dangerous and needs to be ‘corrected’.

[@partypete2542]

Abstract art has done more damage to the world than imaginable. Nothing is allowed to be criticized. Everything is beautiful and perfect. Even the things your fundamental caveman instincts tell you is wrong is right.

[@matalostodos]

Whoa, cool it with the anti-semitism!

[@InOzWeTrust]

I love that Rags, master of bad takes and uninformed comments, is the one to defend wine snobs when it's been proven they cannot tell expensive wine vs cheap wine in blind tests. Edit: Oh god he doubled down when the video itself confronts him with that fact.

[@ManHamOrigins]

It doesn’t help that he has one of the snobbiest voices I’ve ever heard

[@finalfantasy50]

you two are sounding very snobbery right now

[@matalostodos]

It’s snobby (adjective), not snobbery (noun). Of course we can’t expect a final fantasy fan to exhibit foundational literacy 😉

[@tracey5745]

@@finalfantasy50 Everything they said is objectively true tho

[@ProjectRedfoot]

Just to be clear, I was being sarcastic when I said, "EFAP snobcast"

[@jojobizadTRASH]

The TLDR here The problem is snob is that it's not a type of critic but a behavior or personality of the person. You can be an absolute snob praising a work, so it really makes no sense to assign to people who are overly critical about pop-media. EFAP is basically being taken for a ride by this video that can't even answer its own questions. All it takes was for this guy to define the term "snob" correctly, and 25% of the video would've been saved.

[@posteriorpepperoni]

This dude going "yeah but which point of view is the right one" is giving me some heavy "yeah but can he beat Goku" vibes

[@alsmith9853]

The first few minutes remind me of all the crying Acolyte fans, sobbing that they weren't free to enjoy the show because of negative reviews. Which I never understood because who cares what others think?

[@spikefishnetwork1118]

18:30 reminds me of Futurama, the devs hands are idle playthings.

[@jamogable]

Somalian wine joke was under rated

[@mccor002]

This EFAP was an instant classic.

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

Harumph! Harumph!!!

[@HarryO_Possum]

I say*

[@ViolentMessiah666]

Indeed old chap 🧐

[@Señor-Donjusticia]

11:00 Here he is! The glorious return of Mathew Arnold, who we all know about!

[@juliangingivere]

37:20 That would not work on me, I can taste red dye a mile away.

[@mrskribble]

The problem with the blue wall is its brick design. How'd they make blue bricks? And why? Just to be different?

[@woodwyrm]

We apparently decry the existence of pop-culture lmao

[@rollandingo760]

Maybe the real Snobs were the friends we made along the way

[@Jaymalkin980]

Wolf, you going to do a EFAP roasting sponsorship supercut?

[@andrewwall4155]

To be fair most SW Prequel critics are…

[@darkspark5854]

How can you do this? It’s outrageous! It’s unfair!

[@andrewwall4155]

@ it is Outrageous 😂

[@theliato3809]

We got flobs and blobs saying conasoiurs of good RAT are bad.

[@johnochiltree1170]

Does Theo have a channel? I enjoy his takes

[@HectorLopez0217]

TheoTTree

[@obviouslykaleb7998]

"A snobbish judgement or response is one where..." Yada yada, read it yourself at 24:23 But it seems to me thats a very fancy way of saying 'a snobbish judgement is one where the judgement is made based on things not likely immediately apparent to the viewer." At which point, the definition of 'snob' would functionally be 'one who cares to think about the quality of art;' as thinking about art on any level besides "ooh, pretty colors" is going to necessarily have opinions on quality.

[@obviouslykaleb7998]

If this is true - and bear in mind I'm very much not involved in 'aesthetics' as a field of study - then 'snobbish' just effectively means 'having a developed opinion,' and simultaneously, leaves the definition open to people who make ill-informed opinions, like "I think the director is evil so the film is bad." In other words, it's a very bad and overblown definition for something that really ought to be as simple as 'an opinion formed and expressed primarily for the purposes of being rude or appearing intelligent.'

[@LaverneTurner-d6f]

WOuLD SoME BOdY ThInK OF THe Intellectuals - Wise Crack

[@user1point0]

Hey editor, did you misspell "slobs"?

[@citizensunitednegatingtech9783]

Brondo its whats plants crave 19:45

[@kasaibouF29]

49:02 Like EFAP was wrong about Terriers.

[@ProjectRedfoot]

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