All New 2023 Focus Sam2 and Jam2 with Bosch!!

[@Soloohara]

looks aesthetically beautiful

[@crowx3077]

The 21/22 sam2 is deffo a much better looking bike..

[@freeride_mtb]

Much better look and much better price. I have the 2022 and if I would have to choose now I wouldn't buy the 2023. 🙈

[@macedhx]

Exactly! i have the 22, would not change it for the 23/24

[@markcosens1]

That controller would definitely stop me buying the bike. They should have fitted the top tube integrated one.

[@Ruffest]

That controller is proper 1970 sifi 😂

[@RichSera2-qm5rl]

I've got this bike and the weight isnt really a problem. It runs like a beast and very stable. I even jump with this bike much higher than my normal canyon torque.

[@tjeers3098]

Rented something in Scotland and had the Betty on the front and Mary on the back. And actually was super grippy.

[@Dano71R]

I have that Sam 6.9 and it's a tank!! Was hoping the newer version would have been lighter but you do get more battery..

[@Dano71R]

"Tank" as it just plows through everything! I've done jumps on this bike that before I could only dream of. It's gives you confidence!

[@camwells9726]

How do you feel about the bike now ? , I’ve got the opportunity to buy one second hand at a good price and just doing some quick research

[@DigitalProphet_]

Was waiting on the ‘23 Sam2 but there were delays, opted for the ‘22 for a better deal, and so glad I did now. Other than the 650wh battery va the 750wh the 22 model seems like a better bike. Rear wheel setting and mullet option, looks better and has imho the better rear shock design.

[@stevecox1869]

I got an email from my local distributor today saying that the top of the line Sam will be running the new Bosch Race motor in Australia. Have you heard the same for you in the UK?

[@kevinhutchins8282]

The motor integration looks like it's been designed in minecraft.

[@cesarpio674]

HELLO ROB, CAN YOU TURN THE FOCUS SAM2 6.0 TOP OF THE RANGE INTO A DREAM BIKE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO OR IMPROVE ON THIS BIKE? I HAVE SEEN YOUR VIDEOS, AND THE 2 VIDEOS OF THE FOCUS SAM2 6.0 SUPER ENDURO RACE MOTOR IS WHAT I HAVE SEEN MOST. I MUST HAVE SEEN IT 200 TIMES .THE BIKE IS A WONDERFUL EVEN BEING MADE OF ALUMINUM AND ON TOP OF ALL WHEN YOU SAY IT LOOKS LIKE A MAGIC CARPET, THIS BIKE WILL BE FIRST ON MY LIST WHEN I HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY IT. YOUR VIDEOS ARE A WONDERFUL, CONGRATULATIONS, KEEP IT UP.

[@adc6872]

good reviews ! where are you testing the bikes? south of France ?

[@brentmccoll9535]

Do these bikes have the option of 27.5 wheel on the back?

[@gerardcampbell3981]

I've got one of last year's Jam2 & love it. I'm kind of underwhelmed by this new model. Maybe it's just me but it seems a lot chunkier in the bottom bracket/motor area, I guess, though, that's to accommodate the bigger battery.

[@garyrolley3559]

Just saw the Olympia hammer in a news feed. 900Wh battery with 90 nM and full carbon frame. Apparently 6500 euros. With decent parts and some trick geometry and technology. Sounds interesting.

[@adamsmythe4723]

The olympia hammer looks good but you will struggke getting the bike in uk. More of a trail bike

[@garyrolley3559]

@@adamsmythe4723 that seems to be the problem, especially here in Australia. Had a look at the fezurri emtb from the USA. Good spec and not overly expensive for a ebike. But have to direct buy from their website. And then pay GST on arrival. Now seriously looking at the rocky mountain altitude powerplay. Seems to be a good spec and interesting setup, with a massive motor.made a bit more for my size and have a local dealer. So if the budget works that might be to thing.

[@adamsmythe4723]

@@garyrolley3559 I have seen fezurri looks a great bike at a reasonable price.my only issue for me it has a shimano EP8 motor,i have been waiting 3 months for a motor. I have just brought another bike with his week fulgur mula 880 at a great price.it has to be the most powerful motor on the market,what interests me is the motor is fully rebuildable

[@garyrolley3559]

@@adamsmythe4723 that's why im looking at the altitude. It has 108Nm. I think that the ep8 and others with 85Nm are not pushing enough for me. I weigh 106kg and am 186cm,so not your average whippet. So 85Nm might not propel me up hill as well as in the ads. And our trails in Cairns are very steep and rough so i think, they would struggle. And the longer suspension of the altitude would be helpful.

[@adamsmythe4723]

@@garyrolley3559 I have heard the Rocky Mountain is not that powerful,yes it has 108nm but a natural feel.more cadence the more the motto rewards you.I have also heard rocky warranty is not great and using a spider clutch which always breaks

[@mattwoods8872]

Bottoms out 😮

[@paulkearsley9509]

Would like to see a review of Focus one55

[@The_Rumpo_K1d]

I have a cube e bike that has that Bosch controller. It is a bit bulky but it does the job and feels sturdy unlike the new Flimzua controller. 😊

[@plrooks]

Hi, which cube model do you have? How does it's bulkiness impact the way the bike feels on the trail? I've got a deposit on a cube stereo hybrid 140 HPC 750, but may hold out for a 2023 jam 8.7 or 8.8, cheers

[@The_Rumpo_K1d]

@@plrooks Hi, I have a Cube Stereo Hybrid 160 HPC SL 27.5 750. It weighs 24.5kg and I ride it in ECO mode the majority of the time. In eco mode it feels like an enduro bike. I think having 27.5 wheels also helps with handling. It’s only when you turn the motor off that you notice the weight.

[@plrooks]

Thanks for the review! Does the new jam2 come with a flip chip for changing to a 27.5 rear wheel? I saw that the chain stay has increased to 450 from 427 on the previous version, do you think this negatively affected the handling? Thanks

[@nicks8829]

Where did you test the bikes ? I Like my focus jam2.

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

I've been looking for the Jam SL in the US but can't find one..

[@stak5074]

Hi, how do you think about schwalbe 2.6 tyres ? are they too big ? they seem 2.5, thanks

[@matlockmeat]

So they've gone for a similar linkage to Specilaized and Whyte. Does this mean it can't handle a coil shock and the shaft will eventually snap? And before it does, creak like mad.

[@andydtkd]

Could be why they mounted it backwards, to stop the damper rod from side loading so much?

[@kikegir]

What bike size do you ride?

[@danielekirylo]

Cool bikes

[@philwebb606]

The old controller and screen is a deal breaker for me, had it come with the new system the bike would of been a top contender

[@rawmancemtb]

Yeah same. Not gonna buy a bike with the old controller.

[@NaZ-rs1dd]

I'm sure it works well but it looks out of date.. I had to double check when this was posted

[@darksyde988]

All the cool things gone - no mullet and no adjustable rear 😞

[@hatueytavarezolmos4858]

No price on this bikes? At this very monent i think you should prioritize price

[@RobRidesEMTB]

In description as were not availible when filming, but pasted here: Jam2 priced from £4899 (625 battery) to £6499 and carbon models are are priced at from £6199 to £7799. These carbon models feature the new Bosch integrated top tube displays and Mini Remote. The Sam2 is priced from £4899 - £7699

[@hatueytavarezolmos4858]

@@RobRidesEMTB nice to see prices going down, i think carbon makes no difference for an average cycling fan, U5k is reasonable price. Thanks for your response Rob, greetings from The Dominican Republic in the Caribbean

[@da12641]

I was hoping the bike didn't come with the "I'm pregnant" appearance.

[@ciprian_s]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Dano71R]

Nothing like the Decoy w/ the bigger battery. Definitely the duck has one in the oven!!! 🥴

[@The.JZA.]

Pretty much copy-paste the Turbo Levo S-works colour scheme. Looks nice though. Credit to the designers. And by that I mean, Specialized.

[@dennismuller1357]

Ive been waiting for 2 year now for the new sam2 to come out, right now I'm just completely disappointed with what focus has done. The 2022 sam2 looks much better than this 😪

[@megane230f1]

do you think they have had a dig at specialized by painting there bike near enough the same colour and saying why pay 14k for a bike when you can get one with just as good spec for half the price

[@dennismuller1357]

@@megane230f1 you have point and it is proven!

[@Greyarcher1]

They fixed the Motor Protection thing 😉 but still a'bit Heavy compared to the competition,seems a'bit outdated already 😲

[@alesbastl7716]

I have the previous gen of the 6.9 and the weight is not an issue at all. Super confidence inspiring and yet very playful. It goes down like hell and on the way up the motor is there to help. I think it is VERY underestimated bike due to its higher weight which is a great shame.

[@Greyarcher1]

@@alesbastl7716 No! It is outdated so is my Haibike Fullseven 8 too cos its like 25+ kg even of its Awesome, but compared to whats coming out nowadays yes its old dated 😕

[@alesbastl7716]

@@Greyarcher1 I wouldn't call the higher weight an out of date aspect. There are so many classes of E-MTBs these days. Focus only chose not to participate in the low weight race.

[@Greyarcher1]

@@alesbastl7716 that would actually be a'good thing if they are cheaper, cos the prizes are redicilously high 😱

[@marcsee4072]

Cant help it but its Norco vlt range copy

[@lukeegga6676]

They really stuffed the Sam2 appearance. Horrible

[@MrUnderdog1976]

Kann mir bitte jemand den Namen der Rahmentasche geben?

[@miguelmendesnet]

Weight?

[@stevecox1869]

Rob saying 25.9kg and in an email to me from focus it said 26.4kg so no light weight bike there. I’ve got the 2022 model and it’s around 26kg

[@chadsugden411]

There old sam2 weighed 25.6kg in a large…

[@emtbtrailrider539]

do not like the look of this eMTB at all, especially that bottom area!

[@lakaldrak]

Again orange fork.

[@BSE75]

dont like the bosch battery motor integration design. looks like a big ugly brick in the bottom of most bikes...

[@darinchakalov625]

I am looking at the Focus Sam2 6.8 and was wondering if its much better bang for the buck compared to your trak rail 5: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIXRmIOYrJ6dgZI There is a ad in my area for the exact same Rail second hand and was wondering how those two would compare in terms of range for instance having in mind the old 625 and new 750 battery and would it be better to get the 1500 euro cheaper second hand rail and upgrade it in time

[@MrDschubba]

Just had the main charge port snap off on one of these. I bumped the charging cable when it was plugged in. The port is held into the bike by two small screws and two tiny rings of plastic which are completely unfit for purpose. Nice bike, but the ‘engineer’ who ‘designed’ this part is a moron.

[@rawmancemtb]

Integrated battery definitely no from me. Looking for removable 750Wh, extender and not a shimano motor. Not a lot of brands have extender packs so not a lot of choices.

[@kingerz]

It i8s removable and has a Bosch motor though.

[@rawmancemtb]

@@kingerz Removable means you can just take it out. If you have to take the motor out it's integrated and you can't just field swap batteries.

[@mayena5735]

@@rawmancemtb You can remove the battery without taking out the motor on these Focus bikes.

[@rawmancemtb]

@@mayena5735 Ok thanks.

[@crush1221]

I don’t understand all these emtb brands going to this type of rear suspension design when Specialized have been breaking shock shafts with this layout since day dot. Heavy emtb with typically heavier riders, terrible idea!

[@andylewis8915]

Cables through the headset 😫😫 no thanks

[@lukewalker1051]

When the warranty runs out and battery fails, motor needs service, proprietary suspension bits can't be found, these will turn into yard art or you will end up buying it twice. These style of ebikes are like Iphones. They can only be serviced at high cost. Ignorance aka buying decisions should not be rewarded. No question, fun to ride until it breaks.

[@wolkuz]

Are you drunk? :D

[@1brokenspoke189]

Theses look terrible compared to the previous models and they still have the nasty bar,stem,cable thing going on but you get a charging port and a sandwiche bag ??????

[@Pete68T]

Having Had a Few E mtbs in the Last few years including a Sam 6.8, I Have Had enough of Heavy Full power E Mtbs Like these,Lighter E Bikes Like Specialized Levo sl of Orbea Rise Are Whats Needed ,Not Bikes That are Heavy With Big heavy batteries Its Not Like riding a bike but more like a small Motorbike,Totaly Not what Cycling should be Like. We Need Lots More Light weight Bikes that are reliable and Forget about Heavy Bikes Altogether.

[@iKaramboo]

Every video you make, no matter on what bike is an instant feeling „ I need that bike“. Even though I just got the new Orbea wild 🫣😆

[@LastAphelion]

Would you still recommend the Wild? It's at the top of my considerations and honestly not many other things look appealing. Only thing that turns me off is peoples horror stories about Orbea's warranty fails