All new Focus Jam2 with Next-Gen Bosch Motor!!

[@cannonballebikesltd9660]

Noise hasn’t really bothered me to be honest. However look forward to the Gen 5 and new battery tech. No mention of water ingress prevention so hope that has been factored in as uk winter will kill most motors eventually. Great video Rob

[@pawelodz8050]

this camera... quality of a shots..is just amazing

[@TCK71]

That bar remote looks like something from the 80’s. DJI have just set the standard for displays. Nice video though.

[@dallasdrew2390]

I agree

[@andonis851]

For me the way shimano displays are, are the most apeeling. If you slap a bag at the toptube, the integrated are useless.

[@YongPark-g3h]

Can't stop comparing this with DJI and can't stop being disappointed.......

[@vaughanboyce3702]

I have the gen4 and don't even notice the rattle, I don't think the new gen5 is enough of a step forward, my next bike will have a gearbox/motor.

[@kentnilsson9757]

👍Tanks for the all the fantastic review of diffrent bikes that you do😊. Mini tools and smart sulotion is always interesting, but I prefer a slimmed backpack with my tools wrapped in a windstopper hoodie, witch also gives me a back protection, witch is also is perfect when you change bikes😉

[@RobertJohnston13]

Ripping Rob! And beautiful work by the pair of you.

[@adamfavsvidc]

Awesome to see noise situation sorted but what about weather sealing improvements and remote and screen upgrades and also no motor upgrades to make it more efficient or more torque. Seem like just small fixes and no real innovation compared to dji. I still love bosch but look out.

[@CarkeekW]

yay Bosch finally semi quiet ! , now on to the controls and display. The crazy thing is if Bosch actually listened to the punters they would completely dominate the market id say up to 80% share. Its not hard to provide after market displays and controls to retro fit between motor cycles guys , its not too late....

[@rmoore4yris]

I am happy enough with the gen4....No need to upgrade an entire bike just to eliminate chatting

[@gap9992]

Great review as always! It's interesting how little EMTBs have progressed over the years My 6 year old Turbo Levo has a few less Watts, about the same NMs, 720 battery and weighs 3kg less, but it is a Carbon frame. It's a 29er with 160 front and 150 rear The motor never rattled and despite all the doom merchants is still working fine. I wish a manufacturer would come up with something actually new !! Maybe a gear box motor will tempt me to change??

[@_rhapsodist]

beautiful frame, looking forward to the Sam2 😍

[@Coolcmsc]

Rob, great vid and loved the accompanying one about the motor: beautiful setting. And you’ve had some coaching, haven’t you? You’re riding has improved several notches: best upgrade for a bike, upgrade the rider and I bet it’s improved your ability to interpret the bike. Anywsy, I have a question: ‘DoFocus say this can be ridden with the cover but without the battery on uplift days?” Brands that warranty these longer travel bikes for battery-free uplift days will grab an untapped corner of the market.

[@BlakeTheOne]

At 13:20, they most likely used Hydroforming technology. I don't think there are any welds there. I have an Orbea OCCAM H30 with a similar look frame and i am 100% sure is hydroformed.

[@KiwiInGermanyMTB]

Those welds are hidden beautifully

[@monteur85480]

love bosch , but stil got a lot of noise under power

[@jerryofthebikes]

nice bike but headset cable routing is a NO GO for me..

[@Markozzy]

they have made it wireless it needs cable routing

[@lizardears4861]

Rob, what brand are those Camo pants you are wearing? They look good.

[@vidibites]

The Rock Shox Super Deluxe rear can sounds really interesting, like Fox/Specialized Geine?

[@stoneenforcer]

Sadly gen5 isnt compatible with gen4 frame mounts

[@jerryofthebikes]

shimano makes new generator EP801 with same bolt pattern as older Ep800 but for some reason they do these systems incompatible with each other.. so you can't just buy new motor to upgrade your bike, you need everything.. Both shimano and bosch are like to fu*** bikers

[@mikec3405]

Everywhere around the new innovations are very rarely compatible with previous generation. Marketing. Greed. Sad.

[@kentnilsson9757]

👍Interesting😋 I guess it sounds of, that the over run (that made Bosch to its leading race career) and the assist, beeing linked together to maby asisst the crank arms, that make the feeling of beeing clipt on. Could this be a new way to test the limit within the Emtb sport.......or🤔. If the motor starts to assist the cranks, where is than the limit if it is a motorcycle or a Emtb🤔. This is just a guess😂

[@velomech8139]

I see the new motor is a 2 mount bolt system. is the bolt pattern the same as the SX ? maybe a SX equipped bike could be power level motor up graded to the CX?

[@MinskUK]

I agree, generations and interims later, Bosch still can’t get the display and remote right…

[@OscarHernandez-xx2je]

Dude, wrong. The remote is amazing. The LEDs is all you need and if you need more, the app gives tons of info.

[@MinskUK]

@@OscarHernandez-xx2je I see on the latest Santa Cruz the lights are on the cross bar with a two button control so looks like there are alternative approaches 🙂

[@fredEVOIX]

you gave me an I idea I will now train to lift 25Kgs of weight behind my back in case I need to ascend a mountain with my full emtb on my shoulders >

[@emonty62]

Where is your Nicolai (riding) video, bring it on mate!

[@MrO1i1]

How does it compare to the Amflow PL in terms of ride and performance? (Not the Pro model)

[@endurorideraja6766]

Do you know if i will be able to order that new updated motor to fit it to my 2021 trek?

[@69hasel]

Ok, so what's that music starting at 08:30 ?! ❤

[@StuartFricke]

will an airtag work inside a metal tube?

[@NeilDethml]

What I’m trying to get my head around is as soon as you go for the bigger battery, water will funnel down towards the business end 🤷🏻‍♂️ Am I missing something?

[@kentnilsson9757]

👍Nice looking bike😉. Would be nice "just to try" the new Bosch 5 gen motor, how it feels😋. I tryed the Yamaha 85Nm motor witch was to power full for me and didn't have any possible access to tune the riding modes, so I sold it after a month😊. I have tryed mullet on/off and have bikes with both rounds, I prefer 29'er (and not tubeless, because the White shit you have to clean every time you change tire), because you only need to have one spare tube with you on a ride and you have same tyre front and rear for all your bikes, that you leran how they grip. I ride with a cheap tyre Specialized Butcher grid 29x2,3, that is a amazingly easy rolling tyre with a nice grip. The fork, I have on my 3 light weight Emtb is one Lyrik Ultimate 180mm, one Fox Factory 170mm and 2 pc Öhlin RXF36 170mm. The best fork direct out of the box is the Lyrik and the Fox, the Öhlin you have to rebuilt to get them work smoother because thye where to stiff for my typ of riding, on my light Emtb's 😊. Sorry if I writes to much😉

[@OSM_Enduro]

A display on the handlebar is so prehistoric

[@FluckigerPierre]

brand of your camo pant please Rob?

[@charlieharper4975]

With difficulty, I could occasionally hear the motor whining as you climbed. To me, that whine is far more bothersome than the clunking sound, especially that I could even hear it over your chit-chat. I would say the Gen5 Bosch is just marginally better noise wise.

[@erichbachman7363]

Not to sound all negative, the jam^2 looks nice, but its 24.9kg with 600wh battery. Not exactly light? The other tech from bosch is cool. I wish they went for different length batteries instead though. The thicker makes the COG lower so thats obv good, but I suppose it will make a challenge for bike manufacturer to make frames that support both sizes, as they now need a thicker down tube or some whacky bigger cover like Jam does.

[@neilelliston]

No lighter carbon version?

[@rusty2222]

All a silent motor wil do is expose the inevitable rattles in the Jam2 quicker. Trust me on that one.

[@HiruS22]

Have you had a bad experience, I'm thinking of getting a 24 bike as they're a bit of a bargain? Either that or a Scott

[@chrisjones6699]

Urghh key for the battery still and that controller on the bars! This bike hasn’t left 2020! I had a Jam2 and it had to go back due to poor colour matching when my rear triangle had to be swapped due to it bending. Put me of focus bikes.

[@jordanmackay3568]

If I bought a 150 / 160 I'd still run an X2 or similar and a 36 maybe even a 38. Keeping weight down so it looks good on paper but sacrificing performance is shit

[@pedipedi9559]

Over 24 kg...lol. Anything over 21kg makes an E-bike feel like a bus. With DJI's motor system on the market, Bosch and other manufactures need to go back to the drawing board. Love how DJI have disrupted the market. I'll be waiting for good bike brands to adopt DJI system or buy an Amflow. What was the price for this bike, 7999 EUR...to expensive for what it offers.

[@adampalka1245]

The old german guy compares the battery density with his age 😀

[@michaelscott6316]

Headset cable routing needs to go its a pain in the arse totally pointless on a mtb . Took me 4 hours to do a straightforward fork swap on a wild last night 🤬🤬🤬

[@freshtoast3879]

Very bice bike.

[@davidcart28]

Come no rob let’s not mess around DJI have blown everything out the water ie remotes wireless Better display Motor and battery more power and lighter Other brands are playing catch up Some as the amflow but 3.5kg lighter

[@OneCosmic749]

So bosch need 5 generations of motors to figure out a 2 or 3 bolts system to mount a motor and to have proper tolerances in the motor so it wouldn't rattle :D

[@adamfavsvidc]

Hit the nail on the head there. Tiny incremental upgrades = 20 generations and more money for bosch.

[@gweflj]

Same with all eBikes. Just like your phone.

[@Kefir0]

Is there a reliable motor that does not rattle?

[@marklouieadame]

Jam2 looks like Dengfu e10

[@scottbagley7513]

Must say I’m a bit disappointed I really think DJI systems has blown everyone like Bosch Shimano brose out the water!! Apart from making it a little more quiet and 50 watts more range from the battery what’s more different??? Unless there going to be an update in the future where the motors has a significant power upgrade well if your mates have an Amflow bike your going too be left for dust…

[@harisbuza8862]

In terms of frame design, Focus are going backwards with the Jam and Sam…

[@rogercanisius8497]

Purion 400 instead!

[@pjewk]

Dji!

[@pablojmcglynn2863]

24 and bit kg ride with quieter motor and integrated bar with display ... the future is here the future is ....heavy and LATE. 😂

[@pollyaloy]

We just need avinox to put their motor in cheaper bikes preferably aluminium

[@Aiwad-er7sf]

💝♥️🥰👍🙏

[@p.k.7111]

The previous jam2 gen was much prettier

[@Hadroncollider_]

21700 cells are on the market since... 2019? how is that an inovation... it's just rather sad such an overpaid industry took that long to implement existing technology...

[@TucanoT1]

All these new motors with Yet More mounts and Nothing standard across E Bikes,Why is There No Standard E Bike Motor Mount So When You Buy a Bike You Can Just Buy the New Motor and Battery and Wiring Instead of Throwing The Whole Bike in a Bin And Spending Thousands on Yet Another New Thing ??? (Rob Rides )You Should be Using Your Influence To Get this Sorted instead of Keep Pushing All These New things !

[@kentnilsson9757]

Why a expensive one piece handlebars in carbon on a aluminium bike, when you probably have to change it🤔. Why go back in time with 2 pc off junk, a big not integrated display and a fat remote🤔. This kind of bikes is for people hwo likes more to play with a display than riding a bike😂. I prefer a integrated display with only 10 % scaling battery level and witch mode your on, like the Specialized SL 1.1 and not like on the Specialized 1.2 where the battery text is to small for me to easily see😂

[@PelicanIslandLabs]

24.5 kilos.............. I'm out!

[@radoslavcopak2022]

Imagine DJI making lower power variants of Aquinox motor, with 900, 800, 700w peak power with even lower weigth just to dump on Bosch🤣

[@Nagasaki068]

IMO fulff fat ebikes are death I wouldn t buy 25kg ebike

[@wrosslandwr8032]

5 more nm.not interesting.Still the Bafang bbs is less noisy.😂

[@dallasdrew2390]

That motor sounds really noisy going up hill

[@gweflj]

So is the Avinox.

[@Barnaby_bo]

They must have got hold of a Specialized and learned how to make a quiet motor.

[@FilSan86]

I am not hearing a quiet motor. Seems to be the same "winning" noise uphil. Specialized makes also noises but with much lower pinch.

[@dallasdrew2390]

Its noisy going up hill.

[@robbief1]

I never notice the rattle going down hill, but the whine on my Gen4 going uphill is a PITA. Seems like the same goes for Gen5…. Noisy!

[@HiruS22]

@@robbief1 Great, I'm just considering getting a Gen4 Jam2 and all I'm hearing is people having problems 😟 I've not had one problem in 6 years with my Yamaha motored Haibike

[@Strobotor-e9i]

Specialized does not build motors they use motors manufactured by Brose

[@digibrooo]

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