Yeah 150 dmg per second isn't even a joke. It's not even a bad joke. Like...we know it's a sidearm and should be rarely used when you are cornered or have no ammo in primary but..this.. It's like saying "take this with you just because it looks cool"
@BabaYaga071311 ай бұрын
@@LaserTractor I think it’s a case of them undertuning everything in the premium bonds to make them be decent at best, to avoid ppl complaining. Sickle seems pretty good though. I take back what I said , a couple of the new guns seem real good
@LaserTractor11 ай бұрын
@@BabaYaga0713 that's why I'm afraid they will nerf it Underwhelming so people won't complain? Pff Warbonds are forever (devs said, not me) Supercredits can be found in game itself It's literally free
@featuresnobodyaskedfor11 ай бұрын
The stun grenade is going to be game changing with how it can set up stratagems
@ryzicxz448611 ай бұрын
stun grenade about to lead the league in assists
@grimmcrag871511 ай бұрын
Stun grenade and EAT. Strong duo.
@SuperCatacata11 ай бұрын
500KG bomb and orbital precision strike now have a best friend. Edit: It also reportedly stuns bile titans. If true that's absolutely insane.
@konchy11 ай бұрын
Can stun grenade destroy bug holes?
@grimmcrag871511 ай бұрын
@@konchy nope
@JasonWolfeYT11 ай бұрын
Stun grenade will be the best once we get the grenade pistol. Grenade pistol will cover for clearing bug holes. Stuns work on Titans, which is huge for landing 500kg hits.
@creepy605411 ай бұрын
It was fake leak with grenade pistol
@Thesavagesouls11 ай бұрын
A grenade pistol can't fire hand grenades.
@Daunikkek11 ай бұрын
@@creepy6054It's not a fake leak. It's the next pass that's coming out.
@atheontimesconflux106711 ай бұрын
@@Thesavagesoulshe means using the grenade pistol to take care of bug holes while you use flash bangs for enemies. Best of both worlds!
@Vipertooth00711 ай бұрын
If the EMS grenade works against titans, so should the other EMS call-ins like the Orbital & Mortar...
@Heidao62311 ай бұрын
Finally, people can run around like guardsmen with a lasgun
@mcarlinod11 ай бұрын
The sikle's beams aren't red tho :' (
@kevinuribe31811 ай бұрын
@@mcarlinodwhat color are they ?!
@scurtus188511 ай бұрын
@@kevinuribe318 orange
@hissern611411 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@WarsmithThorn11 ай бұрын
@@kevinuribe318Yellow
@AphroLatinX11 ай бұрын
The clips are very well edited. I like how it’s just you using the guns and not running around.
@Skyfysh11 ай бұрын
The time it takes to pump the Blitzer Shotgun is ridiculous for how mediocre it’s range and damage output feels.
@creepy605411 ай бұрын
Its OP
@Pjgamerglasses11 ай бұрын
@@creepy6054it is so clearly not but ok
@willlliorca702411 ай бұрын
It’s an AOE weapon. Better when you’re herding large groups.
@trueken472811 ай бұрын
you're really complaining about its dps even though the gun never runs out of ammo tf
@hunde243011 ай бұрын
its true, i would rather run the arc thrower for its speed up the more you use it
@SomeScruffian11 ай бұрын
3:25 POV: Dad's drunk and you defend yourself with a nerf gun 💀
@Nayr09011 ай бұрын
My theory is that the Illuminid will have shields and need arc/plasma to better deal with them. Vs Terminids and Automatons, they're very okay bar the Arc Thrower.
@atheontimesconflux106711 ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel like they are establishing weaknesses for every species: Termanids are weak to HOLY FIRE RAAAAA Automatons are weak to standard armor piercing Illuminate might be either shielded so we overclock their shields, or they might have such high numbers that chain lightning would cook them by the dozens And cyborgs (if they arrive) might be cooked easily by explosions or ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
@3692Halo11 ай бұрын
as a hd1 vet correct.
@mirarid11 ай бұрын
The Sickle looks to be the best gun
@sicawhoremanchester682111 ай бұрын
depends on what you're fighting. Specifically Spewers, Sickle doesnt do shit for dick against spewers, but the plasma shotgun *meeeelts* these things.
@burnin8able11 ай бұрын
the sickle was always my go-to in the first game. that and satchel charges was all you needed to solo basically any mission, it was awesome.
@ハーフ-r1m11 ай бұрын
Sickle looks like a bot slayer. Defo wanna get it.
@mirarid11 ай бұрын
@@ハーフ-r1mI have it, it feels great, I'm not taking it off :)
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
Yeah after using it, it feels great. It's basically just a better Liberator. Bigger "mag", almost no recoil, awesome firerate. And if you manage your heat, it basically has infinite ammo. The only downside is you probably wouldn't want to bring it to hot planets.
@majorleagueshowoff11 ай бұрын
This was a perfect video showcasing the abilities of the new weapons. Thank you for not fluffing up the video time!
@CaioOliveira-ts6pz11 ай бұрын
They should have added a better sound design for a Energy Weapon. Sounds like a standard SMG
@KBWrecker11 ай бұрын
Yea it sounds pretty weird. Sounded better in HD1
@mrrodriguezHLP11 ай бұрын
Better question: why does it have recoil?
@CaioOliveira-ts6pz11 ай бұрын
@@mrrodriguezHLP Would be better of without recoil, I agree.
@jsgamerpro2311 ай бұрын
@@mrrodriguezHLP don't you the basic law of physics that states that every action have a opposite reaction? Because the weapon is energy based it doesn't mean the projectiles don't have kinetic force that push bach the weapon 😅 if not the plasma(it's not traveling at the speed of light to be a laser) won't do damage because it won't have the kinetic force to penetrate
@ThisIsAHandleOrSomething11 ай бұрын
@@mrrodriguezHLPit’s something I never understand in games with energy weapons. Lol
@gplr188211 ай бұрын
That las-16 looked really nice
@Breadlootgoblin11 ай бұрын
it's pretty good, especially against bugs since the high chance to dismember targets allows you to easily deal with the mid-tier units
@willl565911 ай бұрын
Was Excited for the Blitzer, looks like I'm sticking to the slugger/ punisher and my arc thrower
@Zhongkuy11 ай бұрын
yeah, it kinda sucks rn. It penetrates nothing, you can kill 1.5 small bugs on average with one shot, but also kind of good on single targets, because can penetrate anything below charger/titan level.
@inconsideratebox300011 ай бұрын
Sickle seems like the Liberator we all wanted. Seems really good thanks to the long uptime until the heat sink is fried. You also get 6 reloads if it does overheat, which is fantastic. Might be as good as it was in the first Helldivers. Punisher Plasma seems to deal pretty low DPS, which is especially obvious when fighting Berserkers. However, having the big blast radius is amazing, which is especially obvious when fighting Striders. My favorite factor with the Plasma is the ability to stun enemies. That can be an absolute lifesaver, and the fact it’s an AoE weapons is just crazy. It also has a gigantic ammo pool, which is great. Blitzer by design seems amazing. Infinite ammo, high damage, chains through groups, and a nasty auto-lock to make sure you don’t miss. It seems to have the same issue as the Plasma, which is a low DPS value. Might struggle as a single-target weapon just like the Plasma, but that’s not the point, is it? If it kills groups effectively, then we might have a new staple in the primary category. Dagger looks like an Automaton-only secondary. Like its predecessor, Dagger is gonna suck against body shots, making it a terrible bug group controller. However, if you go for heads, you’ll burn through enemies faster than a fat man on fire. Automatons seem especially weak to headshots, and since it’s a hit scan laser, you’ll probably want to bring this for our efforts to commit mega robo-genocide.
@delirium465111 ай бұрын
I believe you're the first to show all 3... Blitzer looks fun but this painful slow reload and arc not targeting driver of walker are just runing it :(
@Skilow11 ай бұрын
Use pistol for walkers, but to be perfectly honest the blitzer doesn't look like a great choice for bots, getting close to them is a death sentence.
@SuperCatacata11 ай бұрын
@@Skilow The Blitzer isn't a great choice for either faction. I get that they don't want a Pay2Win reputation, but the Blitzer is very bad currently. The sickle also has unlimited ammo, but that doesn't mean it's also useless.
@zanaduz201811 ай бұрын
As far as I can tell, the Bltizer isn’t equivalent to the Arc Thrower in terms of being a seeking, jumping arc of electricity. The Blitzer seems more like a Quake 1 lightning gun in that it hits everything within its beam in a mostly-straight line.
@N0monis11 ай бұрын
The benefit of the blitzer appears to be the stagger it has against bots. And unlike the slugger you don't have to be accurate with it.
@nahfr.11 ай бұрын
@@SuperCatacatawouldnt be p2w anyway you can get this shi for free
@nightismonochrome11 ай бұрын
Sickle seems like a much better Scythe. More dps and such. Not sure why I'd use the Scythe anymore when there's the Sickle now. Maybe for the pinpoint accuracy, but the Sickle seems very accurate already.
@matthewflood397811 ай бұрын
It also looks like that laser pistol is equally as effective as the Scythe. So you can basically have your primary, and a scythe in your pocket. Tbh i like that a lot
@gerraltodudhugan460511 ай бұрын
I talked to one if the devs recently and they confirmed the scythe is due for a buff.
@CarlWByrne11 ай бұрын
thanks for this. Plasma shotgun looks like it needs a buff!
@KomandarmKnuckles11 ай бұрын
Nah, not even close, just wait for the Illuminate. It will all make sense then :)
@kommi765811 ай бұрын
The plasma shotgun/grenade thrower is actually really good, especially against bots. Its the Arc Blitzer that's very underwhelming
@KomandarmKnuckles11 ай бұрын
@@kommi7658not against bugs in my experience, it gets rid of whatever gets too close
@CrunchyMaggots11 ай бұрын
The LAS-16 is absolutely gonna be my new bot primary. Sheeesh.
@shallot499111 ай бұрын
The sickle is probably the best out of the three imo, kinda wish we got more creative alternate fire mode options for these energy weapons
@DuncDog11 ай бұрын
Why is everyone demoing the laser gun on the hot planet against the bugs? I do not understand...
@Unchainedful11 ай бұрын
Hot planets increase the damage and duration of incendiary attacks. This also counts against the enemy as well. So in hot planets you want to use any weapon that does heat damage. In cold planets you want to avoid using hear weapons as the damage is reduced as well as the duration. I hope this clear up some things. I know the game doesn’t explain things too well and requires you to look it up or data rip the game using cheat engine.
@atheontimesconflux106711 ай бұрын
@@Unchainedfulwell, hot planets make laser weapons have less shots per battery, and cold planets let you spray more.
@SuperCatacata11 ай бұрын
@@Unchainedful Are you 100% sure laser weapons count as, "Incendiary" according to the game? Or just the burn damage over time. Either way, cold planets are way better for lasers simply because you can shoot twice as often. Less overheat.
@burnin8able11 ай бұрын
@@Unchainedful this is absolutely false. extreme heat just makes battery-based weapons less reliable, they don't do more damage in that environment. I feel like energy weapons being more temperamental and prone to environmental factors is a totally fair trade-off for infinite ammo.
@Boamere11 ай бұрын
@@Unchainedfulstop spreading misinformation, none of that is true
@Unchainedful11 ай бұрын
I think there still quite of bit of people confused on how weapons work in this game. EVERY item in this game is completely situational, stop thinking of this game as an action game and start treating this game more of a strategy game. The Blitzer shotgun isn’t bad, it’s actually one of the best weapons in the game. Having unlimited ammo and it has the SAME effect as the Arc Thrower without taking up a strategem slot is amazing. Remember that lighting damage ignores armor, however it does not crit or does more damage to weak spots, this has been proven many times. Lighting damage does its base damage and can arc to other enemies for a fraction of the previous damage, it does not do any more damage than what is listed. The shotgun pairs great with the Rover Dog, this allows you to shoot, retreat while your Dog gives additional fire support, and shoot again. It is highly effective against group of enemies. The Sickle is a great weapon as well since it is just the starting weapon with unlimited ammo if you can control it properly, it too pairs very well with the Dog strategems, allowing your Dog to fire while you let your weapon cool down. You guys have to play and explore the different builds and not just jump on what is meta like the personal shield and orbital strikes. Do different builds and be prepared to die and lose while experimenting with a build that is right for you. Now go use what I have taught you and fight for democracy!
@insulindianmarechale11 ай бұрын
Real
@nivm10111 ай бұрын
They are smarted than we think, by nerfing the railgun they forced players to experiment with other weapons, and as you say each one got his own purpose
@brothatscrazy341811 ай бұрын
I agree to a point. The Scythe and Liberator concussive are both horrible. The Scythe needs the laser cannon treatment, getting slightly better armor pen and increased damage against non crit areas. The Liberator Cuncussive has practically no armor pen, seems to be deflected by even light armor and shots to slow. Yes it has stagger but do the 2 original Punishers and they also have respectable damage and utility. Imo, they should should slightly increase its armor pen and either increase its RoF or increase its AoE to make it better at stunning hordes.
@razor569411 ай бұрын
Well said
@SuperCatacata11 ай бұрын
The Blitzer is objectively bad. Quit coping. If I want unlimited ammo I will use the sickle. It's super low DPS with non-existent medium armor penetration. Also terrible at cleaning up hordes because of the very slow fire rate. It serves 0 purpose(All of these are opposite of the arc thrower that you are comparing it to) Everything else in this warbond is very good for certain situations though. Overall great additions to the game.
@ryanringer389611 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how the devs decided to add 2-3 solid guns and then a bunch of milk blasters
@My10thAccount11 ай бұрын
Kinda wish that the Sickle had a different firing sound. It sounds too much like a ballistic weapon currently. Otherwise it looks serviceable if nothing else.
@Wofulrumble489311 ай бұрын
It has the sound effect of the stalwart, not sure why since HD1 it was different 🤔
@My10thAccount11 ай бұрын
@@Wofulrumble4893 The only options I see are it’s intended or it’s a placeholder sound that never got updated. Either way it’s odd, albeit not overly harmful. Just very strange.
@andresmouro756511 ай бұрын
They need to reduce the pump time on the electricity shotgun, it looks like it feels terrible to use because the time between shots is so high
@kommi765811 ай бұрын
It's pretty mid. They need to either buff it's damage, fire rate, or lightning chain aoe for it to feel decent
@tototyui896911 ай бұрын
If you grab an armor set that gives you 2+ grenades pairs up well with the new stun grenade because for obvious reasons (you get more stun grenades).
@saymyname672611 ай бұрын
That laser rifle is a much needed convenience for high difficulty missions where you have no time to scour for ammo
@GoobieTheGoob11 ай бұрын
Plasma slugger is gonna be great for the people who wanna be grenadiers. Run extra nades, grenade launcher, plasma slugger, you’re set!
@mikeivanov583711 ай бұрын
Las and stun grenade look very good !
@justinmininger597311 ай бұрын
1st useful video in the update, Thank you
@gabycashy511 ай бұрын
I gotta go for the arc shotgun one shooting warriors head is insane and not having to reload makes up for the slow shooting speed using the rovers to takes care of small termicide while you focus bigger target will be game changer for me
@_Brando_6911 ай бұрын
The Scythe is by far my favorite. Its good for both bots and bugs love it
@ForTheOmnissiah11 ай бұрын
Stun grenade going to be meta almost guaranteed
@fotuto1311 ай бұрын
Not if you need to blow up holes 😅
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
Bring an autocannon/grenade launcher/eagle airstrike. Patriot will destroy bug nests as well. @@fotuto13
@henrysmith490711 ай бұрын
The punisher plasma shots literally phasing thru enemies is so funny
@T1stG11 ай бұрын
Helldivers become guardsmen now with those lasguns lol, for the emperor! xD
@xxmlgtwinkiegamerxx791611 ай бұрын
The sichle looks like a good back up gun for something like the auto cannon or arc thrower imo. The dps looks really good
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
Oh for sure. I've been using it paired with an Autocannon against bots and it felt amazing.
@RenegadeRukus11 ай бұрын
Now can we please change the base rover to the new las-16 instead of the one-mag-wonder?
@KerriganTyranid11 ай бұрын
Ty for this video!! Only what is important, the guns in a mission!!
@xikaryo673511 ай бұрын
I think they should buff the blitzer shotgun. It should deal absurdly juicy damage considering the high risk of using a close range weapon. You get very little reward for using this gun, so definitely buff!
@j2th3max6011 ай бұрын
Would have been sick if the laser gun had laser sound effects instead of regular gun sounds
@unclesetsu11 ай бұрын
the arc shotgun are barely arc. - it doesnt penetrate armour, still have the hit registeration when theres bunch of corpse on the ground. - doesn't chain - 25m range max(you can test it yourself, mark an enemy shoot at it its not difficult) - small cone(about 10 degree, just aim higher lol, yeah no buddy 25m range and 10 degree aint helping) - delay between shot are quite long - damage are divided by the number of arc;inconsistent damage (the insect that spawned by brood[forget the name] doesnt even die if only 3 arc hits. the small insect have to get hit by 2 arc to die, talking about the arc, not shots; one shot=5arc) 79 shots(x5 arc) vs 1 charger, guess how much damage i deal? 0(oh just shoot the soft spot, hehe yeah thats not happening because when you shoot its ass it hits the body, or leg, or head which is armoured hence still does 0 damage) i'm arc thrower enjoyer, blitzer aint it. the laser pistol are great companion gun with arc thrower since i use my gun when the enemy too close for the arc thrower to register.
@LostWallet11 ай бұрын
con someone test the plasma thrower against the bile spewer? that thing might be good agaisnt those thing.
@The8thblock11 ай бұрын
I dont hate the sichle sound, but i do wish it had more of a laser sound. Kind of like the punisher. It does kind of fit with the automatons lasers though.
@Crabriri11 ай бұрын
Sickle's firing sound is awful, why is there no "pew-pew?"
@loon_gaming_8811 ай бұрын
The Blitzer is not being used properly. If anyone is accustomed to the ARC Thrower playstyle, its best used as a hit and run mid range against Light and Medium tier enemies. Its not meant for close up fights unless you're targeting weak spots for Medium tier enemies. Its like trying to fight off targets close range using a Laser Cannon. Try using against a group of hunters midrange and you might change your mind. Again shoot a large group, run away, rinse and repeat. Same goes for the Punisher Plasma, the video does not illustrate the effectiveness of its AOE damage. USE ON LARGE GROUPS, don't do any single targets and not for up close fights. If you guys haven't realized yet, they are classed as "SHOTGUNS" for a reason.
@krokenlochen11 ай бұрын
Can the punisher plasma clear bug holes and fabricators?
@loon_gaming_8811 ай бұрын
@@krokenlochenI've only been using the new weapons in the new Termicide missions. Hopefully tonight I have some time to test them out. Thanks for the idea!
@AGuyWithFace11 ай бұрын
I have to disagree with you there simply due to how short range the Blitzer is. The arc thrower EASILY has 4x the range the Blitzer has and I'd qualify it as a mid-range weapon. Blitzer is definitely short range only.
@loon_gaming_8811 ай бұрын
@@AGuyWithFaceYeah the Arc Thrower's range is very long, but also the electricity chains. The Blizter damage is more of a cone when its fire outward. I've tested the Blizter at midrange and its decent. I consider 10 steps infront of you midrange, I'm not sure how how far you've been firing the Blitzer. Anything within melee range to 5 steps is close range for me.
@sppd10011 ай бұрын
Have to disagree with your last statements. Shotguns, in general, are not effective AoE weapons. They deal the most damage to a single target if all the pellets hit (close range for multiple pellets depending on how tight the spread is). That said, if the blitzer arcs to other enemies, then it is AoE. It’s strange to me though why you would want to use a weapon that has to charge up every shot at close range. If the damage output isn’t high enough to kill everything quickly you’ll be overwhelmed during your second shot if the swarm is too large. You’ll need support from something else, like a rover or a shield.
@SpaceMuffin-el5pg11 ай бұрын
As an avid Arc-Thrower user that blitz shotgun looks weak as hell which sucks cuz I was excited for it. You shot a walker 4 times across roughly 8 seconds (2:26-2:35) and still didn't kill it. Looks like I'll be finishing all the other Warbond stuff before I aquire the new one instead of skipping ahead for the blitz like I planned.
@zygo011 ай бұрын
Punisher looks like it has a weirdly small hitbox for the projectile, like at 1:26 it almost seems to phase through the bot. Laser rifle, pistol and stun grenade look both fun and effective, the arc shotgun seems…maybe it’ll play different when I use it but wow does it seem underwhelming at first glance
@Limit1997011 ай бұрын
Super excited to unlock the stun grenades
@cerrocerro171311 ай бұрын
Stun grenade + 110 rockets should be fun
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
Hmm, you might be onto something...
@Legitfelix434311 ай бұрын
Won’t be seeing that plasma shotgun in my hands anytime soon
@sirscientist151411 ай бұрын
Man that arc-blitzer shotgun look like a letdown, i was expecting some wide eletrical arc that slapped everything small nearby, just looks like the arc thrower.
@minecraft65311 ай бұрын
Thank you for being completely neutral and not adding bullshit meta comments like the other channels are doing right now like "this gun is so strong it will be meta"
@TheCorgies11 ай бұрын
Blitzer is perfect for bugs, shoot and run style. it has stagger and infinite ammo. closer = higher damage. 3 shots against guard bug, 4 shots against commander, pretty good. but they need to shorten the damn reload speed.
@gadereel211 ай бұрын
why the energy gun doesnt sound like an energy gun? Sounds like its spiting something instead of fewpewfewpew xd
@mahuba255311 ай бұрын
honestly as of now the auto shotgun is my main go to but i hate that it is the only one because the liberator penetrator really sounds promising until you notice how quickly you run out of mags, maybe these can change that
@NaregChakhbasian11 ай бұрын
Get the sickle, it's pretty much regular liberator with more ammo and higher firerate, it's up there with breaker now, it kills stalkers about as easily as breaker.
@Boamere11 ай бұрын
Use the slugger, it’s probably the best gun in the game for clearing anything bigger than a scavenger. I tend to use it alongside the MG
@Akantorz11 ай бұрын
That punisher plasma round phasing through the enemy is an OMEGA OOF. Laser rifle and pistol seem to be the only winners from that group...*sigh*
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
Eh, pistol? Maybe not so much. The redeemer is still probably better. I guess if you wanted less dps but higher sustain damage you could take the dagger. Stun grenade on the other hand is great. So is the booster, but only on paper. We need more details on what is actually does.
@Akantorz11 ай бұрын
@@squeezyjibbs6643 Yeah stun grenade is really great! Can't wait to unlock it.
@CrniWuk11 ай бұрын
*The urge to know more intensifies*
@mrmaxin5311 ай бұрын
dev's should work on changing the physics of bugs' charging momentum and flinching.
@zerohei624211 ай бұрын
most of these weapons seem to work really well against the robots but others work well for the bugs.
@이가람-s3w11 ай бұрын
Can plasma shotgun destroy nests?
@sircruz111 ай бұрын
I don’t like the cooling down delay the sickle has, besides that, I think it’s solid
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
It still has 6 spare mags though. Not in trouble - let it cool down or switch to your secondary. Have to keep shooting - replace the heatsink.
@PhotonKobold11 ай бұрын
plasma shotty acks like a concussion rifle from halo reach
@ItsJuju0911 ай бұрын
Ironically, the stun grenade is the best thing here lol
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
True. It stuns everything (even Titans) but for some reason doesn't stun tanks. Sickle is awesome too, just an all-around better Liberator with infinite ammo if you manage the heat. The booster is great for higher difficulties on paper, but we need to know more details about it first.
@Boamere11 ай бұрын
Why are the other two primary weapons from the sickle so underwhelming? Man who’s gonna run an arc shotgun that can one shot a single bug every 1.5 seconds?
@kommi765811 ай бұрын
The arc shotgun chains to multiple enemies and deals decent single target damage. I agree it's underwhelming but not as bad as it looks. The Plasma "shotgun" (really more of a nade launcher) is actually really great against bots. Ignores the shield on the shield devastators, easy to stunlock large groups of enemies and sweep trash mobs, 1 shots striders on the front plate. Not great dps wise but has phenomenal utility and a lot of ammo
@Boamere11 ай бұрын
@@kommi7658That's cool but my scorcher seems to do those things easier. Two shots to the front plate that you can get off very quick on walkers
@logicalcommenter413711 ай бұрын
3:30 “TURN OUT THOSE LIGHTS”
@charactername26311 ай бұрын
The Punisher Plasma is genuinely somehow worse than the Spray & Pray.
@kaldenring11 ай бұрын
Nope. I love it. Good aoe weapon and can easily go through armor. Easily 3 shots bile spewers. Spray & pray just feels clunky to use and takes awhile to kill bile spewers.
@zanaduz201811 ай бұрын
Punisher Plasma isn’t a shotgun at all. It’s better to think of it as a primary slot grenade launcher, because that AoE is as large as a GL’s.
@nivm10111 ай бұрын
The gun is amazing, you can tap like 6-7 eggs in 1 shot, and its got a pretty nice AOE, just don't use it up close cause you'll blow yourself up.
@charactername26311 ай бұрын
@@kaldenring 3 shots with it takes ages, it's range sucks. Nearly any other gun would be as effective if not better against Spewers. It also cannot pen Hive Guardians and it takes like 6 shots to kill a Brood Commander. It's hard to think of a worse gun in the game right now. Maybe the Scythe.
@ImproperStandby11 ай бұрын
Punisher Plasma is great for eggs and bots, it's explosive so it can deal with walkers easily
@Ultrasonictwo11 ай бұрын
with the lazer weapon are the batteries considered "Ammo" ?
@nicholasgulla466611 ай бұрын
They’re heat sinks, but yes they’re a kind of ammo. If you don’t fully overheat them they will cool down and allow you to get a lot of use out of them, potentially infinite.
@Uri000011 ай бұрын
Yes they do consider ammo.
@1983kpb11 ай бұрын
Not exactly. The ammo is the heat build up meter you see. Which can deplete when not in use. This effectively means infinte ammo with some careful management. But it also does have the capacity to replace the heat sink if you need to rattle off gun fire non stop. So the answer is sort of but not really? Basically if you give it some down time between uses you can always be armed, but in the event you're swamped and need to just keep shooting you can do that too. You just have a limited number of heat sinks.
@bomjus170611 ай бұрын
can the plasma punisher close bug holes? if it can be used to close bug holes, dagger+plasma shotgun+las cannon+stun grenade sounds like my dream loadout. can just stun grenade chargers and blow their tails off with the las cannon. or stun grenade hulks and shoot them in the eye.
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
Sadly no, it can't.
@ivandagiant11 ай бұрын
"short bursts" Holy powercreep. That thing can fire about as much as the LMG before it overheats. 100 rounds. Actually insane
@mrrodriguezHLP11 ай бұрын
I'm an LMG main, that Las-16 got me thinking of retooling.
@brokeblasian11 ай бұрын
It’s not as strong as you think it falls off a bit on higher difficulty
@ivandagiant11 ай бұрын
@@brokeblasian yeah but compared to the liberator? Sheesh
@brokeblasian11 ай бұрын
@@ivandagiant yeah but even then the breaker after nerf is still a better choice sadly I was hoping there would be more weapons to choose from :/
@nuclearlefthook500811 ай бұрын
@@brokeblasian Depends on the situation, breaker burns through ammo.
@mantissa6411 ай бұрын
I love how there is one good weapon in this warbond and it's the one with infinite ammo
@James-en3pl11 ай бұрын
Do you get more ammo on pickups if your other weapons dont need ammo (like laser weapons)? Thinking machine gun or spear if you use 2 laser weapons
@TheVoidMachineSystem11 ай бұрын
The amount of ammo you can pick up per weapon is the same regardless of the amount of ammo in other weapons, to my knowledge
@fainyance1111 ай бұрын
the plasma shotgun... holy shit
@cornelmironb842111 ай бұрын
Infinite ammo weapons sonds good The arc shootgun+laser pistol and EAT would make u need no ammo and be good for close,medium to far range+good against tank enemies
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
Yes, on paper. Except if you only use the Blitzer and the Dagger against hordes, you will get overwhelmed WAY too easily.
@TacynMegan11 ай бұрын
Blitzer is pretty bad and the plasma shotgun feels out of place ( have a feeling is designed to deal with Illuminati shields )
@requ1emYBA11 ай бұрын
cant wait till everyone brings stun grenades to a nest clearing objective 💀
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
If no one in your party brings an autocannon/grenade launcher/air strikes/patriot to destroy bug holes, I'm sorry for you and your party xD
@evaskull11 ай бұрын
plasma guns have been such a let down
@Boxfortress11 ай бұрын
The humble guardsmen and his lazrifle from fallout
@gm595711 ай бұрын
Do u have to have all pages unlocked to get new weapons?
@9_realms11 ай бұрын
Another 1000 credits.
@delaran624311 ай бұрын
TLDR The Blitzer and the Punisher are shit, the Sickle is amazing.
@eilumial133711 ай бұрын
Seems like the only things currently worth on this warbond are the laser rifle and pistol?
@Lazare778211 ай бұрын
i can finally complete my guardsman larp
@billrich972211 ай бұрын
Why does the *laser* have recoil?
@CrazyFarseer11 ай бұрын
IIRC, in Darktide the developers gave their lasguns recoil because otherwise the guns felt terrible to use.
@enshrowd11 ай бұрын
i heard that the new stun nade can stun bile titans and tanks, is this true?
@mrdonkeyy114911 ай бұрын
Yes it’s op
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
I tried it on tanks, it didn't work. They still kept moving and firing. Can you confirm or deny?@@mrdonkeyy1149
@Darrenrulestheworld11 ай бұрын
The grenade looks great, the plasma shotgun, not so much
@insane590711 ай бұрын
I was so excited for the blitzer but it’s probably the worst primary in the game 😂
@creepy605411 ай бұрын
It's so OP though
@charactername26311 ай бұрын
its OK, in close range it claps brood commanders and hive guardians.
@lag00n5411 ай бұрын
it's just slower, shorter range arc thrower without the need of using it as a support weapon so just use a different type of a support weapon while not needing to reload and needing ammo for your primary
@SuperCatacata11 ай бұрын
Everyone above me trying to say it's good has some major copium going on Nobody in their right mind uses this and goes, "WOW IT'S SO GOOD" The sickle also has unlimited ammo btw. Yet it doesn't take forever to kill anything.
@Boamere11 ай бұрын
@@SuperCatacatayeah why would I use the blitzer when the slugger exists or the spray and pray
@Mc.Scrumpy11 ай бұрын
The dagger is better than the scyth, it seems
@roguedoge247911 ай бұрын
Pretty underwhelming that the Sickle uses the ordinary gun SFX/bullet trails. I was expecting it to be like “pewpewpewpewpewpewpew” but it’s literally just a magic-reloading liberator. Even the scorcher, at MINIMUM, got a cool purple plasma hue. Lazy and rushed- coming from a Lvl 50 that loves this game.
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
It feels like a bug, honestly. I imagine they'll update the sound soon.
@Bhargos11 ай бұрын
I guess using ammo is over :\ A got part of the laser pistol will be firing it while running away
@JDEdits2011 ай бұрын
Am I the only when that whenever I close the game and log back in. It completely erases all the items I have equipped, primary, secondary, grenade, emote, and voice. It’s really annoying. Anyone else experiencing this?
@tums0123411 ай бұрын
Yup every time, and I keep getting the beginner tips during every mission like "don't forget to pick up your weapon"
@JDEdits2011 ай бұрын
@@tums01234 yeah, I really hope they fix this
@Adonisys11 ай бұрын
I only wear that helmet when i want to look like a German soldier in WW2
@nt.hunter11 ай бұрын
The blitzer shotgun is shockingly bad.
@SuperCatacata11 ай бұрын
It's pretty funny watching people who already bought the pack coping for it. There are 0 logical arguments for why it's not ass. Unlimited ammo? Yeah, the sickle has that too, and it actually does good DPS.
@ImproperStandby11 ай бұрын
DPS this, DPS that, if DPS is all you care about then take the most optimal loadout being the slugger or punisher. God forbid you have fun in a videogame
@nt.hunter11 ай бұрын
@@ImproperStandby yeah... The blitz ain't fun though.
@ImproperStandby11 ай бұрын
@@nt.hunter Fun is subjective, you may not find it fun but I do.
@Boamere11 ай бұрын
@@ImproperStandbyit would be more fun if it was actually viable, I think they should double its fire rate
@imgettingtoooldforthis11 ай бұрын
So far only the sickle and stun nade are worth it.
@krelekari11 ай бұрын
PS to any wondering, the Punisher Plasma can take out bug holes and bot fabs!
@DuyHa100111 ай бұрын
Sounds like fake news because I just saw another youtuber unloading plasma onto bug holes and it didnt do shit
@whatever_280811 ай бұрын
no it cannot, i just lobbed in 8 shots to one bug hole and it didn't close it unless I'm doing something wrong
@ChaosMatrix11 ай бұрын
What difficulty is this run at?
@squeezyjibbs664311 ай бұрын
Why does it matter? Enemies don't have higher health pools or better armor on higher difficulties.
@ChaosMatrix10 ай бұрын
@@squeezyjibbs6643 I stand corrected. Thank you for the information, friend.
@yomaster1234511 ай бұрын
I'mma keep it real with you, any electrical weapons should be stupid effective against robots
@Burntrocity11 ай бұрын
Only gripe is you didn’t show running while shooting with the las pistol.