All Support Weapons Tier List! Helldivers 2!

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True_Cyan

True_Cyan

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Here is my Tier list for the support stratagem weapons! as of (April 21st)
let me know what you agree and disagree with! thanks for checking it out!
Video Chapters:
00:00 intro
00:40 Completed tier list
00:50 Anti mat Rifle
02:10 Arc Thrower
04:10 Auto cannon
05:30 Expendable Anti tank
06:33 Flame Thrower
07:27 Grenade Launcher
08:05 Machine Gun, HMG, Stalwart
09:23 Quasar Rifle
11:05 Rail Gun
11:59 Recoilless rifle
12:55 Spear
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@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
Okay, due to the number of comments I went back and tried the laser cannon on the bots. its def above c tier, I would honestly put it in A tier for the bots, but under ANTI MAT. this thing cooks way better than i thought it did IF you can hit the weak spots which is kinda tough. I ran a load out specific for it (stun nades, scorcher, nade pistol, and of course the laser cannon) anything that gets too close you can stun and then light up in its weak spot. it takes some getting used to, but by the end of the mission I had it down pretty good. it does struggle from the chainsaw guys, they killed me more than anything. I put the anti mat above it because its easier to hit weak spots with that cause you don't have to hold it on them. Laser Cannon = A tier on the bots
@roam3d151
@roam3d151 2 ай бұрын
One thing also to consider (didn't mention it in the prev comment) the LasCan is probably the best anti air weapon. Depending on played difficulty those Gunships are a nightmare, the LasCan handles them within 2 seconds a pop!
@anthrax2413
@anthrax2413 2 ай бұрын
You are struggling against berserkers because you are bringing redundant weapons. Laser canon already takes cares of the same targets the scorcher does. Imo, Eruptor is a better choice to pair with Laser Cannon. It dispatches several small targets (one well place shot can kill an entire patrol of troopers) and one shots berserkers and striders. Plus, it destroys fabricators now that you lack explosive grenades.
@fayaflai
@fayaflai 2 ай бұрын
Showing the tier lists beforehand is such a goated move. Thumbs up just for that.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
Oh thanks! I figured if I did something someone mega disagreed with they could just click off and not waste their time lol
@Nexowl
@Nexowl 2 ай бұрын
The thing is, most KZbinrs don't do that because "watch time" pushes the algorithm. The longer people who click on your video watch it, the more it gets recommended.
@Diamondmeth1289
@Diamondmeth1289 Ай бұрын
I stayed and watched the whole video because the tier list was showed first. It was too good of a move to not watch the whole video
@Rich-in6ds
@Rich-in6ds 2 ай бұрын
AC is THE weapon for bots. It’s S-tier for sure. It’s not just medium pen like the AMR, it’s also explosive which means it destroys heat sink weaknesses MUCH faster (3-taps tanks and cannon turrets), 1-shots striders and can also AoE down packs as they’re being dropped from dropships. Once you get explosive resist medium armor and no longer need a personal shield to live diff 9, the AC becomes the king for bot missions.
@brianhenderson7893
@brianhenderson7893 2 ай бұрын
I completely agree. AC enjoys added bonus for being able to effectively engage bot gunships which I think we can all agree are stupid dangerous.
@TheWill383
@TheWill383 2 ай бұрын
Allow me to disagree, once you figure out the Misalignment on the Scope of the AMR you will kill everything with fewer shots then the AC. Granted expect Turrets and Tanks. You are more mobile, and have a Backpack slot, more easily hit Weakspots from further away, it's less good for clearing out Chaff but if you pair it with the Crossbow, you can take on everything that the Bots throw at you.
@vuductien1195
@vuductien1195 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheWill383the AC can also kill bug holes and bot fabs way too easy and way too far away. It is really versatile. Heavy armor? Leave them to the anti tanks, this game is not a single player game. Even with the Chargers or Bile Titans, the AC can blew up their squishy part in 2-3 shots. To the Chargers it will render them useless and they will die anyway. To the Titans it will take away their vomit attack which also really helpful.
@TheWill383
@TheWill383 2 ай бұрын
@vuductien1195 Well I am mostly talking about the Bots, I admit that the AMR isn't the best choice vs the Bugs. Well it depends, I personally prefer when everyone in my team can deal with anything on their own, it just takes one stray rocket to take out your dedicated Antitank guys and then you can kite those hulks for ages or get killed by it.. or your anti tank can't get to his stuff in time or at all.. thats just a downward Spiral. And Fabricators I cover with strategems
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
i mostly play solo, so i need more of this play style where i can handle most things, if my weapon cant I need to have a stratagem that can. the auto cannon has never really worked for me but I havnt tried it near as much as I probably need to. i just learned thanks to these comments that the laser cannon is actually pretty solid on the bots!
@christiankirby8092
@christiankirby8092 2 ай бұрын
Did a bug mission yesterday with two guys having arc throwers and two guys having quasars (me being one of them) and we split into teams if two with one each and demolished the mission. I have never seen more bug bodies layered over more bodies in my life and the tankier bugs were just taken care of with the quasars. 10/10 would recommend running this strat if y’all got friends or can convince some randoms. Also bring any of either GD Rover, Jump Pack, or Shield Pack as it just makes the mission far easier.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
Oh man that sounds amazing
@Adeon55
@Adeon55 2 ай бұрын
Laser cannon only being C tier vs bots is pretty wild. It can literally kill/destroy any unit on the map with surprising swiftness, along with turret towers & some objective structures. It kills most bots significantly faster than the quasar charge up, and is capable of some add clear. Its performance is similar to the AC -stagger & fab destruction, but you can use a backpack with it and don't need to reload. Oddly enough, I'd say its biggest unit weakness is against scout striders (takes a bit too long on the legs/crotch for that lvl of enemy), but there are plenty of primaries that can easily compensate for this. In any case, similar to the AC, it's at least 1 or 2 tiers higher in performance vs bots than bugs (where it's very weak vs the heavies, and not suited for massive swarms).
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
This is about the 5th comment I have received about this, ima run it on the bots real quick and I will make another comment and pin it with my opinions.
@Only_Joss
@Only_Joss 2 ай бұрын
@@true_cyan9188make sure you run stun nades with it. The strat to delete hulks or any devastaters is stun, laser for 1-2 seconds in the head and then go back to what you were doing. It’s also great at getting rid of the gattling guns for the Factory strider, and can kill it in the weak spot for about a full charge use. Gunships and gunship factories will also be easy to take down since 2 seconds gets them out of the sky on their weak point.
@StephaneLevs
@StephaneLevs 2 ай бұрын
another good thing about the laser cannon is just how good it is versus those flying bots. it doesnt take a long time to blow one up and since they pretty much always come in pair, it's one of the few weapon that doesnt have a lot of downtime to deal with both. (other weapon will need to reload or to aim more carefully)
@ChurchMouse12
@ChurchMouse12 Ай бұрын
Great video, thank you! Also BLESS YOU for putting the tier list at the start of the video! I really wish more people would do this!
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 Ай бұрын
It’s not exactly a great idea for KZbin analytics but i figured it would be a nice thing to do, so I’m glad you liked it!
@tobaisfunke2981
@tobaisfunke2981 2 ай бұрын
Friendly fire with the flamethrower is a skill issue.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I have been told this a couple times, I would like to blame bad team mates.
@Jason-..-
@Jason-..- 2 ай бұрын
No its not, its very easy to burn yourself and others.
@joeyD95
@joeyD95 Ай бұрын
They just walk into the fire, i can’t do anything with that.
@bchernyha
@bchernyha 2 ай бұрын
The take on the Flamethrower vs bugs blows my mind. As you said with the arc thrower, that is a skill issue. Flamethrower and stun deletes helldive bug breachs solo. I routinely get 800+ kills with it and the Erupter
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
Hmm this sounds like you’re just the best flame thrower user I have ever seen lol. Anytime I see a flame thrower they be killing me, so maybe im a bit biased lol also I need to give stun nades more of a chance
@Clazi
@Clazi 2 ай бұрын
[Only for bug missions]Flamethrower user here. It works really well with erupter for long range explosive and with stun nades, you take on solo sample ventures on a difficulty 9 mission no problem.
@Clazi
@Clazi 2 ай бұрын
I'd say flamethrower itself is only like B or C tier, but with primary like erupter and stratagems that make up for the weaknesses, it's S tier. Paired with a teammate that has a quasar cannon, you are literally spreading democratic version of Stalin all over the map.
@bchernyha
@bchernyha 2 ай бұрын
@@Clazi I agree. My load out it: Medium Medic Perk armor Erupter P-19 Stun Grenade Flamethrower Guard Dog Rover Eagle Airstrike 500 KG With this load out you can handle everything the bugs have to throw at you and the some. Rover and P-19 will handle hunter packs up close, erupter does erupter things to everything at mid/long range (and closes bug holes), Flamethrower melts Chargers and bug breaches and can solo funnel choke points, and the Eagle Air is simply the best strat in the game and applicable to everything always. Side note. The ammo economy of the flamethrower and the Erupter is bonkers. Pair that with the medic armor and the full supply booster and you won't need to rely too much on resupplies. TBH I almost never need them with all the ammo/stims spread across the map
@Clazi
@Clazi 2 ай бұрын
@bchernyha wow that's almost the same as my setup. Except I use napalm strike instead of eagle air and rail cannon instead of 500kg. Napalm is on par with eagle except it creates an aoe puddle that bugs can't get through with the trade off of less frequency. It works well with the flame upgrade from the ship which increases both the flamethrower and Napalm damage. 500kg and rail cannon serves same function. I just like rail for the consistency.
@qasimnazir231
@qasimnazir231 2 ай бұрын
from what ive seen, the laser cannon is actually really good against bots, ive never used it ive seen people use it, couple seconds on a hulk and its dead, though i might be biased because of the amount of times people have saved me using the laser cannon
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
went back and tried it and pinned a comment about it, its pretty damn solid I moved it to A tier
@roam3d151
@roam3d151 2 ай бұрын
The Laser Cannon is hands down near comparable to the AC, wich is pretty much the best overall sup wep against bots. In some areas weaker, however doesnt need a backpack slot and has basically inf ammo.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
i was sleeping on the laser cannon I moved it to A tier in a pinned comment, sadly I cant really change it in the video
@areafurrynone1913
@areafurrynone1913 2 ай бұрын
God I love the AMR for both missions. Two shots to the eye bringing down a hulk is crazy.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
A true sniper over here
@jalontf2
@jalontf2 2 ай бұрын
To echo the other comments, Laser Cannon is fantastic. Bugs moreso for utility/shrieker nests, bots for weak point destruction.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
After I learned you could 2 shot shrieker nests I def started liking it more on bugs
@novakhin1642
@novakhin1642 2 ай бұрын
when you compare the old railgun to the newer weapons, the nerf was bs. safe railgun is completly useless now. it can kill hive guards with ease and thats kinda it, that thing feels more like a primary now and even there it loses to the punisher. F tier
@rathenn6959
@rathenn6959 Ай бұрын
Nice video. Honestly not tested supports much outside of MG/EAT as im quite new. Feally like the EAT though for sure - oneshotting many decent sized annoing enemies is ideal.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 Ай бұрын
It’s really nice, especially for low level players! A new update changed a lot of guns mentioned like the quasar rifle so this list is a little out dated lol I will have to make a new one!
@puffer_frog
@puffer_frog 2 ай бұрын
Autocannon allows you to solo bot bases super easy and also gets rid of very annoying units like scout striders and gunships easily. The lack of a backpack is no issue - look at it positively, it means you have space for another strategem like the EAT or railcannon if you struggle with bots.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
That is true that is true, you might be cooking with that actually since more fire power is needed with the new factory striders
@Tac-M
@Tac-M 2 ай бұрын
I think the spear should always lock-on to the weakspot of any enemy, a lot of its potential is wasted when it doesn't hit the optimal area and deals mediocre damage. It would feel way better to have better damage/consistency instead of more ammo.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
i would prefer more consistency over more bullets for sure
@TheGreatJ
@TheGreatJ 2 ай бұрын
You already addressed it it seems like in your comments. I put Laser Cannon above Quasar now and Material rifle because of how it fits in with the overall meta. The Eruptor is just too good. The eruptor is amazing for being able to snipe fabrictors across the map, and take down the shielded striders. Because of that, those of us who run the Eruptor (which is a lot of us) need something to be able to take out the small mobs. so running the Laser Cannon lets you take out small weak mobs + any armored robot in the game (except small striders). And that is not something you can do with the Quasar. Plus the time to kill on any weak point is insane. Less than 3 seconds hitting a Turret weakpoint or a Tanks weakpoint and it is dead. Same with shooting a hulk. The Quasar is still great of course. But I definitely see the Laser Cannon as being on par if not better just because of the versatility of being able to take out small enemies as well as large ones.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
This is a good point, when making the tier list I really didn’t consider how much things would fluctuate if you have a build set up for it
@Grymczan
@Grymczan 2 ай бұрын
Autocannon is at least A-tier on bugs. It blows up bug holes, so you get grenades of your choice, can destroy objectives, kills bile spewers in 2-3 shots and can kill bile titans, but you need to make a hole in them first to shoot the flesh (110 mm pods make hole, 5-7 shots kills. It's more consistent to me than trying to time a 500kg). Chargers are the only reason why AC isn't S-tier.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
The back of charger legs apperantly are weak to the AC that is fair tho I will have to rethink my rateing next time
@zoopa9988
@zoopa9988 2 ай бұрын
They should probably double the down time for the Quasar cannon, I see no reason to use the recoiless anymore, not only does the recoiless require the backpack slot to function, it also takes just as long to reload as the quasar takes to recharge.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying, quasar is just so superior!
@shepherdlavellen3301
@shepherdlavellen3301 2 ай бұрын
Stalwart is my go-to support when I run eruptor as primary since it can deal with targets up close and can hit flyers
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I have heard the incendiary breaker is solid for shreakers
@shepherdlavellen3301
@shepherdlavellen3301 2 ай бұрын
@@true_cyan9188 yup I just unlocked it yesterday and the gun is a beast, but it's not a support so eruptor can't work with that, that being said it's good with auto cannon
@CoffeeTheFreshmaker
@CoffeeTheFreshmaker 2 ай бұрын
One poin in favour of EAT is that it's pot itself is a projectile. Love getting it stuck on a charger and then having 2 shots for whatever is left. Though, still hard to compete with the quasar. They need to improve spear lock on, maybe recoilless damage bumped up a little and maybe reduce EAT cooldown to 60 sec baseline with a call in time fast enough for modifiers not to fuck it up. And agree that backpack weapons need some extra oomph. Though to be honest I'd prefer no backpacks for weapons and just give them baseline extra ammo, since supply backpack kinda already fits that role, dunno... Lots of anti synergy and "oh can't take this weapon cause I like the jet pack" which I hope they'll work on at some point. Oh and fire/dot damage networking bugs really need fixing. Had plenty of times where small bugs just walk around on fire like "this is fine" and only die to flamethrower direct damage.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
The flame thrower is hit or miss for me, sometimes I melt through a way and other times it feels like I need to blast half a tank on some medium bugs
@CoffeeTheFreshmaker
@CoffeeTheFreshmaker Ай бұрын
@@true_cyan9188 that might be the host bug with damage over time. If I understand it correctly, if you don't become the map host, then damage over time doesn't do any damage for you (gas/burn), so a bug part of it's damage is gone.
@ProjectTaker
@ProjectTaker 2 ай бұрын
Where the Recoiless Rifle really shines I think are in Defence and Escort missions and during Extraction. Where all ammo, supplies and extra Support weapons you call down are concentrated in a single area. 2 people with RR can wipe out every Heavy and Elite of the wave with laughable ease and should already have resupply ready by the time the wave ends.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
When me and my homie used this strat it did not go well, we ran out of ammo to fast on the lvl 9 defense
@johnthetactician
@johnthetactician 2 ай бұрын
If one of you have the supply backpack , you won't run out of ammo fast. Use the supply to refill the RR backpack
@javonscott4777
@javonscott4777 2 ай бұрын
With the quasar you can tap fire to charge it up as your running then as it gets closer you can shot when you want to instead of standing and charging it
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t know this but I know you can kinda “hold” a charge if you’re waiting for a drop ship to stop moving or something by feathering the trigger to not let the charge die
@javonscott4777
@javonscott4777 2 ай бұрын
@@true_cyan9188 yea that's what I mean lol but works well when your running from devastators cause you and just turn and blast then keep running lol
@brucenbrooklyn
@brucenbrooklyn Ай бұрын
Just started using the auto cannon for bots and bugs. For bugs it definitely struggles with chargers and titans but the utility you have in your hands is insane and it frees up more space for stratagems that can take out those targets. Goodbye bubble shield
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 Ай бұрын
I do need to take into account not having to bring a back pack
@user-cz1yu1tc8e
@user-cz1yu1tc8e 2 ай бұрын
Arc Thrower should require backpack power generator. All support weapons should be Quasar level. Machineguns need some rework. Maybe some specific mechanics like stationary turret mode, direct ammo feed from backpack.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I think balance wise arc thrower should need a back pack, and ya the machine guns need a rework for sure
@kahtanalobaidi1550
@kahtanalobaidi1550 2 ай бұрын
Stalwart is a secret S for bugs. Use eats, laser guard dog, 500kg and a heavy hitting primary like the new explosive sniper. My favorite build that melts all mobs
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
i will have to give it a try, alot of the guns on these list perform well if you set up a loadout for them like the laser canon is a tier against bots if you have a full kit for it
@alexsaavedra5546
@alexsaavedra5546 2 ай бұрын
Yeah agreed, I run MG, Erupter, stun nades, and machine pistol with 500kg, Laser GD, and Rail Canon. Excellent self CC on bugs and gives you lots of utility to take on nests solo on high difficulties
@christiankirby8092
@christiankirby8092 2 ай бұрын
One mistake I always see with people using the spear and you did so aswell is you that you are moving while trying to lock on. I don’t mean your camera I mean you as in your helldiver is move. You really need to plant your feet and lock onto an enemy for it to lock on consistently. This does mean that once you are in the fires of the war, it will be hard to use as you can’t easily make that space to lock on without being trampled or shot at but if you consistently manage to stay behind the team, you are a valuable asset for taking care of the largest of enemies and some structures aswell. Just remember to plant your feet and sway your camera slowly as you are locking on and you will have fun with the spear.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
Interesting! I will have to give it a try
@DavidC-fk2wg
@DavidC-fk2wg 2 ай бұрын
I am an arc thrower truther. I absolutely love it. I v rarely get a teamkill either unless someone is stupid enough to run in behind the bugs while I'm trying to clear them out.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
BROTHER! ARC THROWER SUPREMACY
@TheChrisLeone
@TheChrisLeone 2 ай бұрын
I finally unlocked the Autocannon, but I can't wait to get the Quasar Cannon to consistently shoot down drop ships.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
The quasar is just sooo good man, you’re gonna love it!
@Aircastegamer
@Aircastegamer 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact Autocannon you can use it full auto just saying 😉
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
will try that!
@Aircastegamer
@Aircastegamer 2 ай бұрын
@true_cyan9188 If you can, have a reloader buddy and you see that it shoots faster than autocannon turret and it's INSANE! use armor that reduces recoil and you see how broken it is! 🤯
@mitchcane2352
@mitchcane2352 2 ай бұрын
The Quasar actually isn't all that great for shooting down drop ships. It takes three seconds of charge up before the weapon actually fires which is enough time for most of the bots to have been dropped off and the ten second cooldown before another shot can be charged means that you're generally only going to be able to shoot down one of the drop ships for each bot drop. Shooting down drop ships in general isn't all that great, it only kills some of the bots and the wreckage actually provides cover for the survivors.
@8ballgaming468
@8ballgaming468 2 ай бұрын
Amr is my go to. I gotta say sinc it can 1 shot almost all bugs except charger and BTs and klmayybe stalkers, gotta be like A-. Just an opinion, great vid tho! Liked!
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I think I may have put it too low, I think solo it’s not good but I should have considered how good it was if you have a team mate to handle the heavies
@user-IcOHFbAVmO
@user-IcOHFbAVmO 2 ай бұрын
Showing the tierlist beforehand is awesome. Thumbs up!
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Figured I might save people some time lol
@Aircastegamer
@Aircastegamer 2 ай бұрын
Btw i personal like the anti-material rifle and autocannon HOWEVER! i notice its horrible weakness when it comes to vehicle armored enemies which i literally can see the bullets being deflected that leads me frustrated 😫, as results i go for heavy weapons that are designed punching 👊 thru enemy vehicle armor. Anti-tank expendable, recoiless rifle, quasar cannon, and SPEAR are usually my picks. My top two favorite is quasar for being soo good and reliable for being an energy bazooka with unlimited ammo and decent cool down, while SPEAR is basically a futuristic Javelin launcher, and i love it ❤ but in my opinion its lock on system needs abit more tweak.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
that lock on is my only real issue with it, well some more ammo in the back pack. i prefer things that can get through that armor tho!
@Aircastegamer
@Aircastegamer 2 ай бұрын
@true_cyan9188 Same! I notice the Autocannon and sentry Autocannon are two different weapons and sentry Autocannon can actually punch 👊 through tank armor, while support Autocannon cannot! If they ever buff the Autocannon (which I doubt it) it would stupidly broken! And remember Autocannon support weapon has two fire mode, single and full auto! And the full auto is just broken but fun 😁
@panzerlurch2629
@panzerlurch2629 2 ай бұрын
The Autocanon belongs in S-Tier. At least for Bot-Missions. It can destroy Automaton-Fabricators from very far. It is one of the most versatile weapon in the entire game, especially against medium sized enemies like Devastators, Warrior-Bugs, Scout-Striders. Plus that sound of that gun is just "Nice".😂 There's only one thing left to say: "More DAKKAAAA!!!"😂🤘
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps I need to go back and try it on the bots
@TheSorrowWithinMe
@TheSorrowWithinMe 2 ай бұрын
I love the flame thrower vs bugs
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
It’s a fun time, I do think the flame thrower did just get nerfed a little in todays patch
@driftgmd
@driftgmd Ай бұрын
Never let bro rate again
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 Ай бұрын
Hater energy, this is also before the changes to half the weapons so this is outdated
@arkange6531
@arkange6531 Ай бұрын
If you aim for the head with auto cannon, u can kill Bile Titan. It's hard, but it can do it.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 Ай бұрын
Could have sworn I have done this and it bounced, but I will take your word for it!
@KlausKlausen-pe3jq
@KlausKlausen-pe3jq 2 ай бұрын
AMR damage buff was 30% not 20% as far as I know I can't understand why people should have been thinking it wasn't viable and/or good before that Buff I used it all the time against Bots on Helldive That Rifle is just awesome
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
It was my go to weapon on bots before the grenade launcher
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 2 ай бұрын
Bug objective missions = Arc Thrower Bug defend mission = Spear hands down. If you pin, the lock-on is much better Bot objective = AMR Bot defense = QC
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
Solid way to look at it. I love that the game can be this situational that the meta changes based on what you’re doing
@Jason-..-
@Jason-..- 2 ай бұрын
I am in love with the Quesar cannon. Having infnite ammo and no need for a backpack slot is a game changer. At the same time, you have to wait quite a significant time between shots which makes it balanced. Love this weapon, but i disagree with you. Its not overpowered
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think it necessarily needs a nerf or anything but it is wonderful, I think it’s the best of them for sure but I think it’s just exactly the good thing for robots
@Jason-..-
@Jason-..- 2 ай бұрын
@@true_cyan9188 personally i dont think its better for robots. You see, when fighting robots, something that can pierce armour and shoot fast is much more useful than the quesar cannon (like the autocannon). I find the quesar cannon to be better for bugs, since it is exceptionally effective against chargers and even bile titans. So, personally i believe its better for bugs.
@Thrawnmulus
@Thrawnmulus 2 ай бұрын
no Exo Suit, laser cannon, or Rovers? all offensive blue stratagems are support weapons (for the purpose of the achievement at least)
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I will make a bigger tier list next time! And it will probably end up being even more wrong lol
@h4mst0r
@h4mst0r 2 ай бұрын
Naaah, bro! Laser Cannon only C Tier vs Bots, WHAT? Honestly, if you make a tier list, just don't rely on what some friends told you. Play a few rounds per weapon for yourself! For example, try the Laser Cannon against bots and aim for the weakspots. And then explain how the B, A and S tier choices of you can be any better...
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
The laser cannon has never really worked for me, I will give it more of a shot next time I play but the times I have used it did not feel amazing. But could be operator error a lot of the weapons have quirks you gotta figure out
@maximuscleaveland8690
@maximuscleaveland8690 26 күн бұрын
The recoilless rifle is god tier for bots and you have obviously never used it more than a couple times. You couldn't even bother to get any footage of you using it at all? It can 1 shot hulks, dropships, and gunships, and easily take out cannons and tanks with 2-3 shots from incredible ranges without having to wait 15 seconds between shots. I agree that it doesn't have enough ammo but if you just hit your shots you can easily make it to the next resupply before running out. It is almost identical to the quesar you ranked at S tier, except you trade a long cooldown between shots for a backpack.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 25 күн бұрын
Okay so I understand the frustration, I made this video over a month ago when the quasar cooldown was wayyy less than it is now. I have also used the auto cannon more and I can agree it’s pretty nuts on the bots I like it quite a bit but it’s not like I can change it now in the video so it’s stuck there :/ the whole teir list is a little outdated tbh so sorry about that
@maximuscleaveland8690
@maximuscleaveland8690 23 күн бұрын
@@true_cyan9188 Its alright, also it sounds like a nightmare trying to make an accurate tier list for this when there are so many weapons to get a feel for while there are balance changes left and right. Also the viability of any of these stratagems depends on your loadout and playstyle in any case.
@balex55lp
@balex55lp 2 ай бұрын
meh i think flamethrower is great you just need to use it correctly Edit: ok yeah against bots its Useless but against the insects its great
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
With the new ship upgrade it’s probably higher on the list for sure
@alexanderohrimenko5016
@alexanderohrimenko5016 2 ай бұрын
Bro putting AC in A tier... Gotto tell you - against bots try being in a team with 4 Quasars. Then do the same but with 3 Quasar and a single AC. You will 100% understand the difference. The only thing in the whole game the weapon can't handle is the Bile Titan - the Quasar struggles with way more targets(even if it's due their sheer numbers).
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
How does the ac do against factory striders?
@alexanderohrimenko5016
@alexanderohrimenko5016 Ай бұрын
@@true_cyan9188 amazing. It does not matter if you chose to fire at the face or at the underbelly - IMO the best tool to dispatch them. Or at least nothing else can do it that quicker.
@scott3017
@scott3017 2 ай бұрын
You forgot the laser cannon
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I did do that, I put it in the beginning on the tier list, I loop it in with the machine guns cause it functions kinda the same. Medium pen with a lot of “bullets” tho I would probably say it’s better against the bots than the other machine guns just cause a beam is easier to aim I think. Could be wrong thi
@p24666155eter
@p24666155eter 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, hope you luck on completing lvl 8,9 without an AC in the team. Without AC how will you deal with swarm of Devastator in Lvl 8+9. Quasar is over hyped especially compare to AC.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I use the sickle for the devastators after wind up it’s SUPER accurate and takes them down pretty fast. I’m not sure if the AC works well against the new factory strider? Either way I should give it another try on the bots
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I really like the quasar tho
@dogbump
@dogbump 2 ай бұрын
No laser cannon ? Cuse its good for bots
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I somehow forgot when making the video but I pinned a comment about it, it’s A tier on bots!
@arthurqueen5682
@arthurqueen5682 2 ай бұрын
Another overrated Quasar video Just blindedly by free ammo and backpack slot, to ignore how bad perform of it compare to others (rof, positioning, aiming stability, risk of miss aim), faster velocity and non-drop trajectory cant show it much better than other ATs. - An AT so bad dat sometime it needs EAT as sidearm to boost overall perform really deserve C Tier - Remember, u can leave AT work to Air support, playing around with AT for wut? Shooting the leftovers, indeed, so many ammo for wut? - Even Laser Cannon still better than Quasar, faster cooldown, stable aiming, quickly disable any Heavy, free to kill any medium. work faster and more eff-, not playing around out of combat and say its meta btw Autocannon able to shoot everything to get B Tier? Really? Unable to kill Heavy ezly so get B while Heavies are the least number on the map? Dont u know these things: - AC is the fastest backpack weapon reloading - U can just ignore Charger or blow its back by 3 AC rounds? - Titan never move faster than player walking? - AC can disable Tank's track? kill Shredder by sides? - AC disable Hulk's leg, blow up its arm and 2 shot for kill at eye? - AC staggers all any medium?
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 2 ай бұрын
I have heard the auto cannon is better on the bots than I gave it credit for, as I said in the video I have not used it a lot. I’m going to use it more and get a more full opinion of it, thanks for your comment!
@youredumb2016
@youredumb2016 Ай бұрын
Im sorry but the auto cannon not being S has to be a skill issue, its the best weapon in the game for killing automatons unless you cant hit your shots.
@true_cyan9188
@true_cyan9188 Ай бұрын
This was before the nerf to a lot of stuff, and it is a skill issue on my part I have since started using it a lot more
@youredumb2016
@youredumb2016 Ай бұрын
@@true_cyan9188 haha do another list
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