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@cedricboykins93282 ай бұрын
This is the beginning of the mutant saga Agatha had discovered mutants first
@lt.langle2 ай бұрын
I literally dropped new Rockstar. Emergency awesome and heavy spoilers for this channel. Much love. Keep it up I'll be here for every video. This one kinda I'll check back in to let you know if it's to long.
@lt.langle2 ай бұрын
@@cedricboykins9328na you didn't watch Mrs marvel did you?
@cedricboykins93282 ай бұрын
@lt.langle how far back did they go back to explain mutants we know Ms. Marvel family is from a different dimension this is showing (Agatha) that these was random ladies scared to show they power got with other ladies and out of honesty and trust all the way back in the 1600 from different places and different times she found mutants
@cedricboykins93282 ай бұрын
@lt.langle think of marvel 1602
@DaveTh3Ninja2 ай бұрын
I like how in canon, the scarcity of modern witches is largely because Agatha keeps eating them.
@LW-vo1eb2 ай бұрын
Agatha and maybe Mordo too
@lt.langle2 ай бұрын
@@LW-vo1eb he survived when scarlett witch attacked. When a sorcerer attacked he said he was going to kill them all completely makes sense
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
I wonder if this means we'll see more witches like Nico pop up now that they aren't afraid of the big bad wolf
@bizzybrown83722 ай бұрын
Good observation
@teflondawn2 ай бұрын
@@LW-vo1eb all roads lead to mordo
@MattPerk72 ай бұрын
I get the impression that Agatha's mom was abusive, at least emotionally. I think this is why Rio was so protective over Agatha when it came to her mother. That also leads me to believe that Agatha's relationship with Rio goes back before that point, and Rio may even perhaps be the one who had taught Agatha how to practice the darkest of magic.
@chrishealton38302 ай бұрын
Yeah, Rio clearly did *not* like Evanora and became legit protective over Agatha in that moment. I also think Rio looks at death differently than lesser beings. She knows it’s not really the end and more a transition.
@SIMON_SAYS_SO2 ай бұрын
Agatha's mom was probably abusive to Agatha because her dad was Mephisto who as Jack Scratch was the father of Nicholas Scratch.
@Nickferal2 ай бұрын
Yeah. The show left so many Agatha questions wide open!!!!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That's a great point! Yeah, it did seem Rio became very protective of Agatha when her mother was becoming abusive.
@QuoteBlink2 ай бұрын
Jennifer is gonna believe the road is real lol
@chrishealton38302 ай бұрын
I’m just happy she’s alive and well and found her power.
@WhiteRaven6962 ай бұрын
I mean, it is. Now. lol
@SIMON_SAYS_SO2 ай бұрын
The Witches Road is real in the mystical dimension from whence all magic originates and emanates.
@yoyomayne2 ай бұрын
In comics yes, this is the MCU@@SIMON_SAYS_SO
@mjracle74212 ай бұрын
She has a KZbin channel, too. She's gonna make one of those GRWM videos telling her followers about surviving the Witches' Road while promoting her Kale Kare Crap products 🤣
@Nickferal2 ай бұрын
7:07 my theory is that Agatha got pregnant with magic, probably green magic. And like Billy and Tommy, Nicholas has a soul, however keeping the spell requires tons of power. Agatha needs to power up to keep him alive. It makes sense the son of death can't be alive, Agatha is allowed to keep him alive through vampirism. After Nicky dies, she is desperate for more power to bring him back.
@gerriehetschaap18542 ай бұрын
Probably not, as she specifically said that the baby wasn't because of a spell or incantation, but made from scratch; which is why she called him Nicholas Scratch.
@mattwilburn90392 ай бұрын
Heard that Death was one of his parents and even though played by a woman death can take any form. I think it's interesting as a child of Death that Nicolas would be born still born since one of his parents is literally death.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Those are some good theories, @Nickferal. Whether it was magic or whether it was Death as @mattwilburn9039 suggests, it does seem it was something very interesting and unique. I do hope they explore it in a later entry in the MCU!
@MattPerk72 ай бұрын
I think that Agatha had to kill witches and deliver bodies to Rio in order to buy more time with Nicholas. It's interesting that the very first coven that we see her kill after he's born, he goes from looking sort of gray to having more color and health, and the one day that they don't kill witches is win Rio comes for him.
@justisstata2 ай бұрын
I was just coming to say THIS! Also, the one day he refused to "kill witches", and Rio got no bodies, she took Nicky. That's why she hates Rio she told her, "if you do this I will hate you". She kept 'giving her bodies' but out of anger and grief 🤷🏽♀️ at least I think
@jonoave2 ай бұрын
I also think there's a differnce in the way Agatha killing witches before and after Nicky. Before Nicky died, I think Agatha was killing witches for the bodies (aka not draining them). We see as the camera cuts away it's a few flashes of light and the witches screaming in terror. Compared that with the scenes we see of witches being drained where it's a slow process and there's typically no screaming as the wtiches drained are getting weaker and also confused as to what's going on. I think Agatha only go about actively draining the witches after Nicky's death, to gain more power to either hide from Rio or hoping that somehow she could bring Nicky back (grief is a powerful emotion) . So she started draining witches, which probably helped her on the way to obtaining the Darkhold.
@seekingvision2 ай бұрын
I was about to say the same
@RapistsDeserveTheGuillotine2 ай бұрын
This is true. She promised Rio bodies, and this is mentioned in the episode before when she points out Agatha was distracting her from Billy.
@FoxyGuyHere2 ай бұрын
I don't think so. Nicky was sick already before they chose not to kill witches that day. Also Agatha just keeps killing them after he dies.
@Cognus12342 ай бұрын
When they 1st enter the trial in episode 8 , Billy book is covered in mud (dirt) Jenn has a small bottle of water and Agatha has the seed, so they did have everything they need to complete the trial 💯
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great point...love that!
@jonoave2 ай бұрын
I saw another cool take on when Agatha said "I can't face him" aka Nicky. One is confroting Nicky who now knows he was killing other witches to buy time for his life by distracting death. Second is she has become: a mother who used their song to lure other witches to drain their power and killing the, getting her hands on the Darkhold and all the other bad stuff she's done.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Fantastic theories! I hope they go into more depth at a later point about exactly what Agatha fears so much.
@xiongrey192 ай бұрын
I also really like the idea that once he created the road, it didn't really need him to upkeep it and that it does what he essentially programmed it to do. As evidence for it, after he left Westview and came back the entrance was still clearly there. It's not foolproof evidence but still, I do like the idea that the road is just real now (I mean, Rio would be thrilled to have a feature with a 75%+ mortality rate to witches that are likely much beyond their typical lifespan.
@xiongrey192 ай бұрын
Agatha was the narrator and played a part in the Vision volume 2 (Little Better Than a Beast, Little Less than a Man) storyline which is my favorite comic story and I've been hoping they'll adapt someday.
@emilyk51682 ай бұрын
I think the poor Westview residents are in for more witches, unfortunately. Someone is going to find that tunnel Lilia and Jen saw and try to walk it.
@xiongrey192 ай бұрын
@@emilyk5168 It's sad but I think you're right. Even without the stories of the road, Westview has been the center for powerful witchcraft multiple times now. Witches are definitely going to take notice.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Love your theory, @xiongrey19. It fits perfectly!
@AdarP5R2 ай бұрын
Congrats on 20.5K Subs. I noticed that Agatha says to Nicky I cannot Protect You-Alice I cannot heal you-Jen I cannot divine when she will come-Lilia I just think it is interesting that the members Agatha needed to access the road where completing the things she couldn't do
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Oh wow! That's a fantastic observation. I absolutely love that!
@jonoave2 ай бұрын
There's some comments on reddit pointing out the part where Agatha told Nicholas: I cannot protect you, I cannot heal you, I cannot divine what's coming. Those are 3 powers of the other witches in the coven. And a nice callback or reference when she tried to do those things in her battle against Rio:
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
Oh wow... Jac really went in on the paint here lol the layers are endless
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Oh wow! That's a fantastic observation. I absolutely love that!
@coolerkerl84692 ай бұрын
I saw someone on TikTok mentioning that Rio came to get Nicholas the one day they didn't kill any witches, so Rio didn't get her bodies and immediatly came to get Nicholas instead. They also said that's the only reason Agatha started killing witches, just to give Rio her bodies and to keep Nicholas. Later she probably killed the witches just for power tho, after Nicholas was dead. I thought this was an interesting idea and I wanted to share that here.
@coolerkerl84692 ай бұрын
The same person also said when Agatha was arguing with the others if the ballad says "coven true" or "coven two" Agatha was right because she wrote the song the "coven two" was her and Nicholas of course.
@jonoave2 ай бұрын
Yep I agree.
@holycowthatsoutofthisworld38312 ай бұрын
@@coolerkerl8469 I really like that idea!
@thelifeofgio2 ай бұрын
the only thing I don’t like about this is that means Agatha killed witches every single day for over 6 years. Not saying that’s impossible, but they mention they kill witches and never mention killing regular humans. There’s that many witches around for her to kill them daily? especially in a time when you can go days without seeing another town? seems off to me.
@thelifeofgio2 ай бұрын
the only thing I don’t like about this is that means Agatha killed witches every single day for over 6 years. Not saying that’s impossible, but they mention they kill witches and never mention killing regular humans. There’s that many witches around for her to kill them daily? especially in a time when you can go days without seeing another town? seems off to me.
@DJCMO4202 ай бұрын
When Rio said he's disrupting the sacred balance, i got marvel tingles 😅😅😅
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
ikr? What a great line!
@renorhino2 ай бұрын
For how low of a budget they had on this show, it was pretty great. I had low expectations but I was super pleasantly surprised. Can’t wait for more Wiccan.
@omarslayz2 ай бұрын
it’s how Marvel shows should be. i’ve always had a feeling superhero fatigue isn’t entirely real and it’s just lazy storytelling after a decade of writing for these type of projects, the writing just sank to the bottom as all things usually do but this show proved that u don’t need to waste like $15 million on a project that’s not good as sometimes it is ultimately better to have a low budget with great storytelling and everything to make a good project. basically only the movies should have a big budget
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I agree...my expectations were low, but I was hopeful I would be surprised and what a pleasant surprise it was. If Marvel can keep the budget in check and focus on the writing, then this can become the norm.
@GatorRade-qq9rs2 ай бұрын
on the final trial, agatha didn't wanna drop the bomb yet revealing that billy created the road. i believe she wanted everyone to complete them in good faith even for billy, because if the road became real and so might be its price. which agatha is after.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great points. I agree, Agatha didn't want to take that risk.
@autumn34992 ай бұрын
the end credit picture is a merge of Joe Locke as a kid (actual picture) and Maria Dizzia (actual picture) so it made a halloween pic of Rebecca and William Kaplan. such a cute detail.
@leighannjohnson81762 ай бұрын
Oh! That makes sense that it would be a photo he has up in his room from a childhood Halloween. It just goes to show how much he liked witches even as William.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Love that so much!
@dillingergaroutte15022 ай бұрын
When jen asked agatha how many people did you go down the road with last time? Agatha held up a finger saying one. And her coven two comment. She never lied.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great point!
@howveyouben2 ай бұрын
One thing I loved about Moon Knight and Tarawet specifically is it essentially establishes that where you go after you die is dependent on your culture and life experiences. Hence there being Valhalla, the Ancestral Plane, etc. So I sort of see it as Death is escorting souls to their respective afterlife. Like maybe she’s the one who determines whether you died in battle and therefore end up in Valhalla. And yeah, in my mind, Death escorted Marc to that psych hospital where he greeted by Tarawet.
@SIMON_SAYS_SO2 ай бұрын
Death has many faces.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I agree 100%...it seems Death is the portal to your specific after life so I can totally see her guiding people to Tawaret or Valhalla, etc.
@qpsweet2 ай бұрын
Rio was an abusive ex who wanted to punish Agatha for not wanting to be with her, and Agatha was doing everything she could (even using the Dark Hold) to hide from her. Maybe that's why the first episode manifested as a true crime drama.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Oh, now that's a very cool idea. Love that!
@FoxyGuyHere2 ай бұрын
When Agatha talked about Tommy and how Billy can't keep him with him, Billy just found Tommy and took him inside him to move him to other body.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I really like that idea!
@jonathanwright47322 ай бұрын
Like how Wanda created Vision, Billy uses his reality-warping abilities to pull a version of Tommy (maybe the remnants) out of him and into a new body. Maybe.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Right...I think that is an excellent theory!
@peteallen84202 ай бұрын
I think Lilia is the one that hid Billy, when she put the sigil on him it prevented death from collecting either soul, Billy or William.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That's a great theory. I like that idea alot. It's definitely my head canon for sure!
@justaperson08482 ай бұрын
that makes sense, especially since Lilia says that Death is the original Green Witch
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
@@justaperson0848 Great point!
@nickjoffe84332 ай бұрын
🎼 "Down, down, down we go. Down the witches road. Follow me my friend, to glory at the end."🎼
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Sing it!
@audioacc2 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your 20k! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🍾 I joined because of your unique and thoughtful insight on Agatha All Along. I was watching any YT videos on it between episodes and so many just retold the story beat by beat without any thoughts of their own. Yours stood out. And your enthusiasm is evident. I want THAT when I want to learn more about my favorite Marvel productions. Again, congrats on your 20k. You deserve it! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@noelstafford72662 ай бұрын
Yep, this ✌🏼🌻
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That's so nice of you to say. I try my best to give an original take on things and dig abit deeper if I'm able. I really appreciate the positive feedback!
@vendovi30572 ай бұрын
I LOVED this show. It is my favorite MCU marvel series. I didn’t expect it to take that spot but here we are! Just loved it.
@reversecardthompson11972 ай бұрын
Loki is still my number 1 but you do you!
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
@@reversecardthompson1197Loki was very fun, very Doctor Who, but this emotionally impacted me in the ways I've always wanted Marvel to. Fave project overall by faaaaaar
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I agree, @vendovi3057, this show was amazing. I'm toying with my top 3. Definitely Loki S1, WandaVision and Agatha in the top 3, but not sure of my order. I do a ranking each year, so I've got some tough decisions to make!
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U for me it's now AAA, WandaVision, and Multiverse of Madness. (The Marvels, the Eternals, Age of Ultron, Falcon, Xmen 97, Loki, and Iron Man then round out the top 10 til Ironheart shakes things up again)
@vendovi30572 ай бұрын
@@nailinthefashion Sameeeeeee. and this still had a lot of fun and witchy goodness, and just the right amount of action/cgi that made sense.
@kaykay792 ай бұрын
18:09 of course I’m good with this. The fact that Billy created the road cemented him as a Maximoff.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Well said!
@joeyglusky47742 ай бұрын
51:06 Look closely at the brooch you noticed the Maiden Mother Crone disappeared
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Excellent observation!!!
@thetotalrandomguy2 ай бұрын
Congrats on the 20k subs, absolutely deserved! I think one reason why Rio/Death was okay with letting Agatha keep Nicky in exchange for many witches for awhile, is because it seems like witches can live for a long time, evading Death for too long for her liking. So it’s not necessarily her wanting to collect more corpses as her cosmic responsibility, but specifically witches are kinda an insult to the natural life/death of humans that she needs a way to deal with. Amazing show, I hope Jac Schaffer gets the Wanda solo movie gig (if she wants it), and I’m excited to see how Vision Quest incorporates this mysticism stuff into their tech-based show!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Good theory on the Rio/Death agreement. And yeah, I agree, I hope Jac gets the Scarlet Witch movie. She would do a fantastic job with it!
@aegontheusurpaah2 ай бұрын
The two moments that stood out to me were: Jen emotional, unbinding ritual and flying to the sun and Nicky’s backstory. So tragic. Also, discovered your channel a few weeks back and love your analysis. Keep the good work!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I agree...those were two really impactful moments that you mention. Such a well-written show. And so glad you found the channel. Great to have you here!
@Shocco082 ай бұрын
i sure do hope that Agatha All Along can be a standard of quality for marvel television going forward
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Preach it!
@Nickferal2 ай бұрын
35:55 agatha figured out the road will let people out if they find what they want (typical AI behavior), agatha also figured out from Rio that Tommy's soul is bound to billy. Then helps him find a dying boy to attach his soul. That's literally what happened.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Excellent points!
@Nickferal2 ай бұрын
I really think agatha was born with purple magic, a special category, like scarlet magic. She was born with the power to take peoples magic, however, Raimi already made at least one strange use that power
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it does seem she was born with it. Good call!
@PDX-Red2 ай бұрын
IIRC, in the comics Death has agents across the galaxy ferrying the dead to their culture's afterlife. That would explain all the death planes in the MCU. I loved how they continued to show how practical the set was; Rio's exit reminded me of the end of "The Truman Show".
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Good theory on how death works in the MCU. And you're right, that was definitely a nod to the Truman Show. Great catch!
@kaykay792 ай бұрын
25:16 yes Rio finally understood. But also, I think it was the same tactic Agatha used when Nick was still alive. Because the one day that Nicky didn’t want to lure witches, was the same day he died.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That makes sense. Good theory!
@aizenszn2 ай бұрын
22:04 The coven facing their biggest fears (like their hallucinations when poisoned or the trials themselves) and obstacles (even subconsciously like Alice, who did not believe the curse that was on her and her family) via Billy’s ability is very reminiscent of Wanda showing Tony his greatest fear in Age of Ultron. He really is just like his mother 😅
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great point! Love that connection. And thanks for being a member of the channel!!
@WhiteRaven6962 ай бұрын
Agatha's history with Rio, Agatha's history with Jennifer, Agatha's history with the Darkhold, the ultimate fate of the Witches' Road moving forward, Nicholas' father, and even the reason why Agatha was hated and shunned by the Salemites in the very beginning. All of these major, integral questions to the storyline that the show itself put forth were all left dangling on the cutting room floor and I can't see ANY of them being followed up on in the future.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I would like for all of those to be answered. Jac Schaeffer did address some of those items as being intentionally left ambiguous, but being someone that likes answers to everything, I do wish we had all the answers.
@WhiteRaven6962 ай бұрын
@ At the very least, we should’ve gotten answers on the Darkhold, considering how integral it was to Multiverse of Madness, Agents of SHIELD and Runaways. And how it was tied to what people thought she did to Nicky. 😭😭😭
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Yep...I really want those answers!
@reversecardthompson11972 ай бұрын
One detail you forget was that the bell that Nicholas steals is the same bell that Agatha holds at the end of the second episode when they’re singing the Ballard, (also I definitely don’t think rio and Deadpool are going to meet, like what project could that happen in?, cause I definitely don’t think a Deadpool 4 is happening and don’t think rio is appearing in secret wars 😂)
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Oh wow...great catch about the bell. Love that! As for Deadpool...where there's a will, there's a way. Marvel knows he's a money maker, so I bet we'll see him again. But I agree, Deadpool 4 is unlikely at this point. Reynolds would probably rather just appear in other movies and make bank.
@kevinmcnulty81092 ай бұрын
Congrats on 20k. I'm a relatively recent viewer. I have enjoyed your take on things. I don't always 100% agree but your comments are insightful and thought provoking. I am so happy I discovered your channel and wish you great success in the future.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for those kinds words. So glad you found the channel. Great to have you here!
@dylanchristopher1192 ай бұрын
I think the truth is worse statement is more in line that she either did have to or believed by killing witches she was extending nicky's life. It is never explicitly said, but 1. she is seeking out witches to kill 2. when we see Nicky finally not go along with the plan and they spare a coven, that's when Rio comes for Nicky and 3. It is hinted at that lives can be trades for others, like with Billy and Agatha Rio said Agatha had to die if Billy was to keep living. There seems to be a connection to killing people to extend life time of someone else. Just my thoughts.
@Zimzalabiiiimm2 ай бұрын
Ohhhh wow that’s so good
@jalengy76292 ай бұрын
Nicky was sick before he he decided to not kill the coven so him being sick probably had something to do with it.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That's a cool theory! I wonder if that means Agatha thought Nicky was sick right after he was born?
@Pigpen_YT2 ай бұрын
Congrats on 20k! For the amount of passion you have for this franchise you easily deserve 500k!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That truly means alot coming from you, sir. Many thanks!
@gamerzilla61132 ай бұрын
The name "Nicholas Scratch" is an amalgam of colloquial and euphemistic names for the Devil: "Old Nick" and "Old Scratch" or "Mr. Scratch". There is also character with same name in Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Very cool. Thanks for sharing that!
@jorgecarbajal80762 ай бұрын
7:13 Legally speaking, I think Nicholas is more of an accessory to murder because he didn't kill the witches himself, but he did lead them to their deaths at the hands of Agatha.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Good point!
@resurgemas2 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking forward to this breakdown more than my own paycheck
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Aw, that's very nice of you to say. I hope it was worth the wait. Really sorry it took me so long, but man, there was so much to discuss!
@JCinLapel2 ай бұрын
Agathas deal with Reo was that she would covince Billy to give himself to Death and you will never come for me. She did that the talking with billy convinced billy during the fight Billy was willing to save Agatha. Reo said only one would be able to live. She knew Reo could not claim her soul. This is how Agatha planned it forcing the kiss of death so she could be a ghost. Agatha played death.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great point!
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
35:50 Canonically his only options are within Billy, the astral plane or limbo. I think it was the astral plane since they're heavily leaning into Billy's telepathy in this variant. Id like the limbo tie in just for Magik later on, but id get why they would keep it simple
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Very good theories!
@brandonrichmond39352 ай бұрын
When I was watching these episodes, I thought Agatha brought her son along to kill the witches to keep him from Death, and all the dead witches were a distraction so Agatha had more time with him. Which is why I believe the day Agatha didn't kill witches, Death came for Nicky in the night cause she was no longer preoccupied collecting the souls of witches. Yes there is the whole cosmic entity aspect, so she could've collected Nicky whenever, which is why I think Rio mentioned Agatha having special treatment.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Good theory. I like that idea!
@autumn34992 ай бұрын
14:58 Alice’s next line is “it’s just a con”, which once you know it’s hilarious she says that to Agatha who is literally the one who made the con
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great point! That's hilarious!
@MightyMarshallandTJP2 ай бұрын
1. I think they did a very smart thing by releasing the last 2 episodes simultaneously. If people had to wait 1 more week for episode 9, then the audience would have been far more divided. Episode 9 does a great job of setting up the next season or a tie-in with maybe a vision quest. 2. we got the emotional climax, the biggest reveal of what the road really was, and all the resolution in one big chunk. It was kind of refreshing to have time to let the characters come to terms with everything that happened and have the set up for the next step come organically. Often Marvel has their big climax battle and then basically a montage of all the characters going about their day after with a postcredit scene that wouldn't damage the film at all if it weren't present, and often little more than a surprise teaser of whats to come. It’s fine for a popcorn film, and I'm not complaining at all, but Agatha was a really nice change of pace to see. 3. episode 8 is the ending, and episode 9 is kinda the epilogue. 4. I think they nailed it all the way through. Episode 8 was more exciting, but episode 9 finally told us what happened to Nicky. It was beautiful. Billy doesn’t even know the answer to that question. 5. Episode 9 is the post credits scene, I guess, given there was none! 6. Episode 8 was a fine ending, but it would've left everyone saying, "Wtf? What now?" and we would have had years of speculations over what the Road is and so on. So I'm happy that Episode 9 ripped that bandaid off and essentially cemented just how damn nasty Agatha is, even despite all the child's death's trauma. That reveal about the road may be my favorite Marvel reveal they've done in a very long time. 7. Episode 9 was evidently filmed separately with just Agatha and Billy’s actors to avoid spoilers. Everyone seems to be missing this, but it’s obvious when you see it. Jen’s exit, too. Marvel is getting better at preventing leaks. 8. Episode 9 was better, in my opinion. Both were very good, but if it had just been 8, I'd have been left a bit disappointed. 9. The show was perfectly paced, had a bad ass fight, with emotional stakes, then showed what led up to it and hinted at the next step. I'm still reading and finding new Easter eggs. It feels like no scenes or dialogues were wasted in this show. No notes. 10. I have been surprised to see the reaction to 9. I loved it. 8 was great , but 9 was the epilogue that really made the series pay off, i thought. It added so much more depth to everything in the series, and it was a nice reprise to end on a cooler, more toned down episode. Loved it. 11. I like both. I just dont understand why they didn't switch them and make one big 80-minute episode for the final. 12. It was very much a book structure, a coming together of everything and then some time to breathe, see the aftermath, set up interest for any possible future installment, but leave this story finished. I like both styles of finish for TV shows (the climatic final episode setting up for another season with a cliffhanger and the more personal reflection of what it all means that it happened), but they work for different kinds of shows. I think they made a good choice as this was a more personal/character driven kind of show and (for me) I find more satisfying in heavily serialised shows as I want a resolution and I want time for some of the aftermath (e.g. Babylon 5 that always seemed to do this). 13. I think they had the right amount of time, but I needed to reorder it a bit. Basically, they move Agatha’s death to the end and put the flashback and discovery that Billy created the road earlier. 14. That's kinda how stories are supposed to be told. The ending can't also be the climax, usually. 15. Personally, episode 9 is the perfect bookending episode. It really resonated well with me and is beautifully written and left me feeling complete. It's good to slow down and just see character moments unfold. The mark of a good TV show is not an extended movie that's been forced into a TV format. 16. Episode 9 is a coda to the 8 episode arc. 7 and 8 are really sort of the finale. 17. I don’t see what the fuss was about. I thought episode 9 was much more interesting than episode 8. I’m less into the fight scenes than I am the backstory and plot developments, and I thought the reveal about the origin of the witch’s road lore was much more interesting and satisfying than the reveal about Wiccan creating the road. 18. I’ve no issue with it being a resolution. I just disliked that it was… messy? And it’s mostly the Agatha flashback. For a scene that’s there to kinda explain her / the road / Nicholas / her relationship with Rio. It does a rather poor job at it. Why does Agatha just murder everyone? Is it for her son? Why does she do it after when he clearly didn’t like it? How did the Darkhold play into like… any of this? How did the road, a song they kinda just sung, turn into some crazy folk lore so quickly that witches came to her? For a witch who’s powers are so obvious for how they work, why does literally everyone just attack her immediately? Like her mother knows he’s doing this, but just… does the same shit to her? Why did Agatha reveal that to Lila if she was genuinely planning to kill them all, too? Why did Agatha even kill herself if she seemed terrified to meet her son? Which also goes back to why she even did all the shit she did if she was afraid her son would hate who she became? Why did that make Rio spare Billy? It’s still a great show. Overall, it is still a good ending. But the Agatha stuff left me a bit more confused than satisfied. 19. I think the implication is she’s doing it to placate Death in return for letting Nicky live longer. At the point he finally dies, she’s too far gone and carries on murdering through the centuries for power. 20. Why does Agatha just mu*der everyone? To gain their power. Is it for her son? Aside from gaining power, yes. She made a deal with death to spare her son. While she's providing bodies for Death, Death spares her son. The day they spare lives is the day Nicky di*s. Why does she do it after when he clearly didn’t like it? Because it's keeping him alive. How did the Darkhold play into like… any of this? It didn't other than the rumor that she killed her son in exchange for the Darkhold. That was a lie. How Agatha got it wasn't important to this story. How did the road, a song they kinda just sung, turn into some crazy folk lore so quickly that witches came to her? That's literally how myths and folklore work. Someone says something, and as it works, it's way through the rumor mill it evolves into something greater than its origin. For a witch who’s powers are so obvious for how they work, why does literally everyone just attack her immediately? They don't know how her power works. How would they? It's not like Agatha goes around telling everyone that her power is killing witches and stealing their power. Like her mother knows he’s doing this, but just… does the same shit to her? Evanora says Agatha betrayed her coven, stole knowledge above her age and station, and practiced dark magic. We don't know if she knows that Agatha kills to steal power. Why did Agatha reveal that to Lila if she was genuinely planning to kill them all, too? A healthy mix of desperation and arrogance. Also, the audience could learn this information, and so the coven could survive long enough to get to the road. Why did Agatha even kill herself if she seemed terrified to meet her son? Because she made the deal that when she dies, she never wants to see Rio's face again. So Agatha died, but Death never came to escort her to the other side. Which is why Agatha is a ghost. Which also goes back to why she even did all the shit she did if she was afraid her son would hate who she became? Agatha is a power junkie with no self-restraint. Lots of people do things they know their loved ones would be ashamed of. Plus, she was stealing power to stay alive, so she probably never thought she'd see Nicky again because she didn't plan on ever dying. Why did that make Rio spare Billy? Because she can't kill Billy unless he surrenders himself. Otherwise, he'll just reincarnate. So Agatha sacrificed herself so Billy would be spared. 21. Because it’s keeping him alive. He’s dead. It didn’t other than the rumor that she killed her son in exchange for the Darkhold. That was a lie. How Agatha got it wasn’t important to this story. Then why was her nightmare about it if she knew it didn’t happen? If she knew it had nothing to do with her son’s death? That’s literally how myths and folklore work. Someone says something, and as it works it’s way through the rumor mill it evolves into something greater than its origin. I’m aware. My point was how quick it spread. They just made the song. They don’t know how her power works. How would they? It’s not like Agatha goes around telling everyone that her power is killing witches and stealing their power. She’s killing hundreds of witches, and no one’s ever attacked her one at a time? That just… seems silly? Because she made the deal that when she dies, she never wants to see Rio’s face again. So Agatha died, but Death never came to escort her to the other side. Which is why Agatha is a ghost. No, she didn’t? The deal was that if she gave him Billy she’d never see her again. She ultimately never did that because she kills herself beforehand, and Death is like “nah we’re good. Forget it”. Also, in the first episode, Agatha says death can’t kill her. Because she made a deal with Agatha to spare Billy, and Death keeps her promises. When….?
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Awesome feedback on the episodes. I totally agree that it was a smart move to release 8 and 9 together. 9 was the perfect epilogue/post-credit scene, as you pointed out!
@MightyMarshallandTJP2 ай бұрын
Yeah, but it took me longer to finish it, and I'm a bit sad to see Agatha kiss Rio and to save Billy😥 But I wish AG would find a new body at some point, like Wanda did in the multiverse of madness in Earth-838.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
With Agatha...all things are possible!
@hunterterrell57352 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the show, the characters, set, and music were amazing. I think Billy created a semisentient road that gathered both elements from the Coven and bits of Billy's room. And your prior video convinced me of it before the episode concluded it.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I thought they brought all those theories together perfectly. Loved it!
@jnzooger2 ай бұрын
The whole where you go when you die thing makes perfect sense in my mind. Like how the road adjusts to the walker (well theoretically anyway), the afterlife adjusts to the soul. So Nicholas and Alice personally know Death so they see the real her when they die, but the wakandians and moon knight don’t know her, so they get the guides they believe in. It’s the same afterlife for all but perceived in the way they believe.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Well said...I agree 100%!
@SiIIy_2 ай бұрын
47:20 they did have practical makeup but there were CGI touch ups so the skull part isn’t sticking out like the IRL makeup was
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Good point...yeah, it feels like there must have been some CGI touchups to make it look so good.
@hunterterrell57352 ай бұрын
I think Rio takes souls to their personal afterlife like Marc to Duat, Jane to Valhalla, etc. Which to them appear instant with no interaction. And those with no set theology or tie deal with Rio. I wonder if Rio is the same person to cross the Multiverse or if she has variants of herself tricky with the embodiment of all death
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Love your theory on taking souls to the afterlife. I suspect death exists in multiple locations at once, which is a cool concept!
@jamescesena90572 ай бұрын
You should make a video featuring a possible list of MCU characters Death has met. Natasha! Tony! The Watcher! And more…
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That's a really cool idea!
@jamescesena90572 ай бұрын
@ you do the most thorough and concise videos; I’d trust yours to be amazing!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@coolerkerl84692 ай бұрын
I recently learned that Jen was actually the cousin of Johnny Blaze aka Ghost Rider in the comics, so even more potential for her to be in the Blade movie
@emilyk51682 ай бұрын
I am trying to manifest her being a member of the Midnight Suns team! I heard more rumors of that movie recently and Jen HAS been a member in the comics. Witchy manifest ✨🔮🧙
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think Jen has a huge future ahead of her in the MCU!
@coolerkerl84692 ай бұрын
@@emilyk5168 it would be awesome!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
💯
@howveyouben2 ай бұрын
Congrats on 20k! You’re one of the best Marvel content creators out there and I always look forward to a new upload
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That's so nice of you to say. Thanks so much for all your awesome support of the channel. I truly appreciate it!
@Camkasal2 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking forward to this video all week! Thanks for always being SO in-depth and entertaining in these breakdowns!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the positive feedback. I had so much fun breaking down the show each week!
@JSV-pr4qo2 ай бұрын
I LOVED THIS SHOW SO FUCKING MUCH !!! thank you so much for your breakdowns and theories. It was fun taking this ride of Agatha with ya.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I agree...such a fun series...loved it so much!
@jeremymorris3452 ай бұрын
This version of Death is interesting. In the comics, when it comes to Deadpool, she loves him because she can't have his soul due to him not being able to die. So I wonder how she feels about Mr. Immortal from She-Hulk. I get the vibe that this version of Death wouldn't like Deadpool because she seems to hate people who avoid death.
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
It would be hilarious if they liked each other because they can't be together, a la immortal Thanos. Forbidden love, Romeo and Juliet vibes. Maybe just a flirtationship to keep things light and moving. She's definitely his type, he loves an edgy brunette who puts him in his place. She would peg him any day of the year lol
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Love those ideas, @jeremymorris345. Yeah, it may indeed be another toxic relationship for death if she crosses paths with Deadpool. She may wish she was back with Agatha again!
@arnixen75672 ай бұрын
Congrats on 20k! I'm happy to have been here to see this Journey so far!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...truly appreciate all your awesome support for the channel!!!
@HermitStyle2 ай бұрын
These are seriously the best marvel videos on KZbin. Thank you!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That's so nice of you to say. Thanks so much for the positive feedback!
@BladeStudios2 ай бұрын
Congratulations on 20,000! I subscribed a few months ago and your videos have now become the only must-watch ones I have for the MCU. I also recently became a Member and would love to see more behind the scenes videos in the future.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for being a member. Truly do appreciate it! I do need to do some more behind the scenes vids. Agatha really wiped me out as it was so good and there was so much to cover. But I'll be back again with more very soon!
@marcella81372 ай бұрын
I was left under the impression that Tommy died, but Billy travelled back in time to that moment and "picked him up" and left him in that unloved boy's body. So I think he'll have actually lived 3 years in that boy's life and might already be in juvie when Billy gets to him
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I wondered that same thing. The only reason I'm thinking it was happening in present day is based on Jac Schaeffer's interview. She made it seem like it was happening in the present (i.e. 2026 in the MCU). But I agree that the show itself left it abit ambiguous. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts on it. Really appreciate it!
@marcella81372 ай бұрын
@AbitofEverything4U you're so nice, I don't know how you have the time and patience to be so amicably omnipresent. thank you
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I just love all the conversations with fellow MCU fans. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
@Killixn_2 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved this show and am going to miss it, especially Lilia and Rio 😭❤️ To answer where Tommy's soul was, I think that maybe Tommy's soul was IN Billy. When Agatha was trying to help Billy find his brother, she said "You can't keep him" as if Billy kept hold of Tommy's soul after Wanda broke her hex. That might also be why Rio said that Tommy's soul isn't "out there yet" because Billy hadn't released him yet! That might also be why Wanda couldn't sense Tommy either, because he was hidden in Billy's soul which had a sigil on it. Another thing though, is Nicholas's father...Rio? It sounds crazy, but Earth magic is about the life cycle including Death and REBIRTH. Birth? Rio also called him Nicky just like Agatha did. Also, Nicky always called Agatha "mama", but after his vocal performance, he said that "My mother is waiting for me at home". He's never called Agatha his "mother". Was he talking about his OTHER mother: Rio? Because she was waiting for him at home that day as she came to collect that very night. It would also make sense that he was meant to die as he was born from Death. Also, he went to Death's side so quickly as if he already knew her or maybe he knew his time was up? He held her hand and even knew what she meant when she pointed at Agatha "to give her a goodbye kiss". He gave her 2 kisses, maybe one for Nicky and one for Rio? But he didn't know who she was when Agatha mentioned "Her coming back". Agatha said she didn't use magic to make him, but didn't mention if Rio used her magic. So maybe Rio was his "father", but this is just a theory though lol Another thing, maybe Agatha became a ghost because Rio didn't come to collect her soul. Agatha didn't want to see Rio's face again and didn't want to see her after she died. Maybe Rio was doing what Agatha wanted and didn't come see her out of respect or love. Also, did they foreshadow Agatha's death in the beginning? When she was "interrogating" Billy and showing him photos of a dead body, he said it was just a bunch of flowers. Agatha died and her body became a bunch of flowers. The morgue tag on "Wanda's" foot which was for the library said "W. Maximoff", but right above it - it said "A. Harkness". It could just be that they both used the Darkhold, or they were both "dead or going to die". I could also be reaching lol! Forgive me for this essay 😭💀
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Lots of excellent theories in your comments. I like the idea of Rio being Nicky's father. Very cool thought. And I'm totally down for Tommy being hidden IN Billy. Oh, and that's a very clever thought that the library card was hinting at Agatha's death. Great stuff!
@Merione2 ай бұрын
As for the "made from scratch" line, I don't think that it necessarily means that Agatha must have had Nicholas through natural means. She only says that SHE never used magic to create him. But what if someone else did? What if SHE never spoke any spell nor incantation, but she still got pregnant somehow? The thing is that the phrase "made from scratch" is extremely suspicious in this context. Even when you make children in the "natural" way, they still don't come out "from scratch": you still need... well, body fluids and eggs lol! It's still an "active" process, so to speak. Also, as you said, by that time she was already in a relationship with Death. Sure, that doesn't mean that she couldn't have had an affair with a man at the same time, but it would still be weird timing. So the fact that she says that Nicky was made "from scratch" makes me think that there is still something supernatural about this story, even if she isn't the one directly responsible for it. As for Agatha and Nicholas killing witches together, I agree that he feels uncomfortable about it, but I don't think that she was doing it simply to absorb their power. Sure, that's a big reason for it, but I think it was also an attempt from Agatha to buy more time for Nicholas. In fact, I don't think that it's a coincidence that the one time they decide NOT to kill the witches, Rio actually comes and takes him. Agatha knows that Nicholas was supposed to die at birth, and from that moment on she's been killing witches all over the place, in order to provide Rio with the bodies and therefore buy more time for her son. As a side note, I think that this finale finally confirmed that Agatha actually CAN control her absorption powers: she was able to stop herself when Billy gave her his powers, and also she never even attempted to absorb Rio's power when she attacked her during the big fight at the end. I thought that it was an unintentional reaction as soon as her body gets attacked, but apparently no, she's always been able to initiate and stop the process at will, to the point that she can be attacked without any power being drained at all. And that makes it even creepier because it means that she CHOSE to kill her own mother and coven back in Salem. As for how the Road was able to adapt to the different members of the coven, I think the explanation is actually really simple: Billy knew about the Road (or, I should say, the legend of it) mainly through the song, and the song mentions "many tricks and trials" and says that when you "tame your fears, a door appears". So he must have put 2 and 2 together and created a Road that does exactly that: a sequence of trials focused on each member's fears. He doesn't need to know exactly what that fear is, as long as the Road has the power of adapting to people's fears, then it will figure it out on its own.
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
The phrase from scratch refers to a pantry imo. Whether that be an ex male lover or Rio, I think it means he was made from pure love. He wasn't made out of obligation or an accident. He was wanted, he was loved, and it doesn't matter how or Jac would have felt the need to show us.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Epic feedback, sir! Love it. You have provided such excellent commentary all season long. Many thanks for the time and effort you put into you comments!
@DDemiGodd2 ай бұрын
In terms of Tommy I think his soul was like in limbo, that's why death said his brother isn't out there not yet anyways and that Billy stole a second life (body) and she can't let him do the same for his brother. I don't think she would've said that if he was recreating tommy from his memories his memories is probably what connected him to tommy and helped him find the soul to place.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Excellent theory!
@mickymcmillan8132 ай бұрын
As always thank you for your coverage. On the theme of time: "What are you? In your 400's" -Agatha to Lillia. "A lot happened to me when i was 13 too. " - Billy to Alice. "What will you do with the time you have left?" Lillia's Maestra. "Jen, you are the path foreward." Lillia. "Thats it. Thats all the time i get?"-Alice to Rio "I've wasted the last century of my life." - Jen to Agatha. "I need more time." - Agatha to Death. "No, Billy. Sometimes, boys die." -Agatha "Your going to have to get use to that." - Agatha to Billy about the concept of surviving death. The aspect ratio dosent change for agatha because she knows the road isnt real and doesnt exist. Not for her trial or for the morgue. There was no green witch for the road to test, so the immersion for the witches and audience is incompleat. Speaking of green witches... Once they were on the road, Agatha didn't need more witches to join. She even gave away that the original lyrics were coven two. I guess the only other witch who survived the witches road was Nicky, since for Agatha the witches road was the process she used to kill other witches. With that all in mind, she may have added "it's not easy being green" to the end of the summoning spell in order to sabotage summoning another witch to the road. I love that sam raimi kind of didnt watch wanda vision, but jac shaffer was gracious enough to homage evil dead. It always feels like, when Billy asks "is this how nicky died?" Agatha has this realization. She was willing to let Death steal another child... She was so defeated and depressed... She was so self loathsome that she continued to be the monster her mother said she was ... To kill witches and comit evil acts. But she loved her son, in all the ways Evanora could never love Agatha. If she were awake when rio first stole a child under her care, she would have defended Nicky. With Billy she had a chance to prove it. Here, she can prove to herself that she would have / can save(d) a child that death covets... I think thats the first step to her not buying into the abuses she likely underwent with Evanora. It dosen't clean her ledger... But it might be the first step to correcting that manic behavior she uses as a shield. On the subject of running from Death, finding Tommy, having a spirit as your guide, and the show being really positive lgbt representation... I can almost say for a fact that this team is aware of deadboy detectives... Both the comic and the show. As a huge Sandman fan... If you liked the themes of this show please consider watching sandman and Dead Boy Detectives. Its got a lot of the same vibes.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Fantastic commentary! Love your point about the aspect ratio and about the references to time in particular, but everything you said was spot on. Thanks so much for sharing all that. Really appreciate it!
@jonathanwright47322 ай бұрын
Ancient One does mention seeing only possibilities, not "the future."
@jonathanwright47322 ай бұрын
Sorcery in the MCU is pulling energy from other dimensions to perform acts of sorcery. Witchcraft seems to be internal magical power. Entirely different sources of power.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Excellent points!
@Cognus12342 ай бұрын
Loved theorizing this series with you 🔥🔥💯
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I felt the same. Thanks so much for being part of the fun!
@cherishloveart2 ай бұрын
Always love your videos! You cover everything so thoroughly and listen to comments as well. Keep being awesome dude 💙
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback!
@cherishloveart2 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U You're most welcome
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
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@RokBraker2 ай бұрын
Loved the show and your breakdowns, you easily deserve more than 20k subs. Maybe Billy was subconsciously care-taking Tommy's soul - basically still taking care of his brother beyond Death.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I agree, I like that idea about Billy. Good suggestion. And thanks for the positive feedback. Really appreciate it!
@Lexi-12342 ай бұрын
Congrats on the 20k! Really enjoyed all the agatha all along videos
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Yeah, this was such a fun show to break down!
@camrenstuder67342 ай бұрын
Congrats on 20 subs. I bet Agatha thought the truth was worse because being asleep was kind of not being there when he died, so it would be survivors’ guilt that she let her guard down enough to sleep because if she was awake she could have offered to sacrifice herself for Nicky like she did for Billy. I’m really excited to see what Agatha and Billy do next.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Fantastic theory. Love it!
@nataliebrod68022 ай бұрын
what is worst than having your son sustained from life force of other witches? just like a death grim reaper for rio and that why Agatha hates her and in the conversation with rio she said to rio "special treatment? you gave me nothing you only take" i think the power that brought Agatha to Salem trail is the power to suck the life force and magic from the other witches, rio bring him to life when Agatha was in liber made him feeding of other witches life force literally because he needed to eat but he didn't want to and he died
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great theories!
@DancingEagleWoman2 ай бұрын
Dang, your theory was spot on! I was wrong lol😂
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I honestly wasn't 100% sure myself, as so many different theories (such as yours) were very convincing as well!
@mattwilburn90392 ай бұрын
The last challenge was a "growth and new life: challenge. To create something new. Jenn had growth inwards by becoming a better person and unbinding her magic creating a new future life for herself. Billy created new life when he put Tommy in a new body. Agatha even though not as emotional or powerful magically still followed the rules of the challenge and created new life by planting a seed to grow into a flower. Still technically she worked within the rules of the challenge.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Fantastic!
@luna9astra1052 ай бұрын
Great breakdown! You always bring up things that I didn’t think of while watching, which adds to my enjoyment. I appreciated that this show left enough clues and hints along the way that you were able to speculate that Billy may have created the road; that they weren’t trying to subvert expectations or have a big, dramatic twist at the end. While Billy creating the road may seem like a copy of Wanda creating the Hex, from a character perspective, it makes sense that one of her sons would share her abilities and her way of dealing with problems. And the fact that Agatha created the idea of the road and used it as a big con to kill witches to steal their powers was such an Agatha thing to do. Both “reveals” didn’t leave me thinking ‘WTF just happened’ (which is not what I can say about the Loki finale, unfortunately).
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I completely agree...I think the show did a great job of giving us lots of hints about the big reveals that were coming so that the payoff was well earned.
@santi26272 ай бұрын
congrats on the 20k!!! been here about 2 years now and i love seeing how this channel grows and still loving all the analysis and theories!! heres to many many more 🥳🎉 i’m really looking forward to rewatching this show again, so much was just written so well and every episode felt like the gift that kept on giving lol! this is definitely in my top 5 marvel d+ shows, now im even more ecstatic about the shows coming soon!! editing to add more: 28:32 since later in the show we find out that billy was the one who was manifested the witches road into reality, i wonder if the road going in a circle was also subconsciously inspired by him/his room. i mean a bedroom has a finite amount of space and if he were to walk in a circle in his room, he would see the same sights as on the road.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for being a long time supporter of the channel. Truly appreciate it. And that's a really cool theory regarding why the Road was a circle!
@vpdixon99912 ай бұрын
Happy to see your channel growing! Keep it up!
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!
@gamerzilla61132 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure moment Jen wore lot less clothing is when she made a deal with Dormmamu to fight zombies from Marvel Zombies that entered 616
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Yep, seems to be the preferred zombie fighting gear!
@23heltar2 ай бұрын
I think when the director said it’s not their place to discuss Nickolas’s father they meant it literally what if Mephisto is his father and since he is rumoured to appear in iron heart (which is a show they aren’t working on) they aren’t allowed to talk about it or discuss it maybe we will find out in iron heart. Also with the Tommy thing I think his soul did go into Billy and he just found a new body for him the “you can’t keep him” line to me sounds like that is more likely and we will properly see him in vision quest or a young avengers project. Also what if her taking a little bit of Billie’s powers is what allowed her to come back as a ghost that would make sense as he is powerful enough to
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Love those theories. I'd love to learn more about Mephisto's involvement in Agatha's life in Iron Heart. That would be sweet!
@briannam99462 ай бұрын
I think Agatha would prefer people believe she traded her son for the Darkhold because she can’t let others see her vulnerable. Every time she shows emotion in the show, she corrects that by putting up a mean/evil facade. Agatha would rather be feared and hated than pitied and humanized. She was betrayed by her own mother/coven so she uses her own reputation to protect herself from betrayal in the future. Also, Agatha is a ghost because Rio honored their deal. When Agatha dies, she doesn’t want to see Rio’s face.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great feedback! I love those ideas.
@scottvillett48542 ай бұрын
Also interesting that Agatha refers to Jenns work as real and important as Jenn as a mid wife probably could have helped Agatha with Nicky during her pregnancy and so Jenns work would have resonated with Agatha who knew all to well about the works importance
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great point!!!
@jamescesena90572 ай бұрын
I think the memory of Tommy is stuck inside his own mind. When Wanda folded her reality Billy took him to keep him safe until he found a new body.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That honestly feels like the cleanest and most straightforward idea to me. And Billy didn't realize he did it until Agatha helped him understand what happened.
@Blazecap2 ай бұрын
just want to say it's been a fun ride. I've not been commenting, but be sure to know I am watching all your videos. This was a great finale.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I agree...such a great series. Thanks so much for your support of the channel!
@speeeee352 ай бұрын
Just for the record, the “coven two” thing was definitely the correct Lyric… That was the joke… That it sounds like it shouldn’t be the right Lyric… But first of all Agatha made up the lyrics with her son lol so obviously she would know, and second of all it was “coven two” because it was just Agatha and her son going around killing witches… aka a coven of two lol so it made sense to make that lyric when first coming up with the song, but obviously that didn’t make sense to us the first time we heard it, not knowing Agatha and her son made it up, so we thought Jen was right… really, of course, Agatha was right about her own lyrics and it made sense for a (murderous) reason 😂. Great writing.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Agreed...that's why it's so funny. It ends up raising the question of whether the original person that creates a lyric is right or whether the modern and more popular version is right. I mean, Agatha did sing the newer lyric with the group to pretend to open the door. So she acknowledged that the revised lyrics were thought to be the right ones. Thus, to your point, it makes the whole thing all the more funny!
@coldoven68992 ай бұрын
I was one of the people that was excited for this series from the start but they blew my expectations out of the water
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree...it exceeded anything I could have hoped for. Sooooo good!
@autumn34992 ай бұрын
you pointed out Agatha tried using Alice’s protection spell and Lilia’s “hit the deck”, but you missed she also used Jen’s water and moonlight spell to try to heal when Rio sliced her Achilles tendon with the first vine. Agatha was using guidance from each coven member to fight without power. 🥲
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great point!
@Playitcool_19632 ай бұрын
Literally every week I’ve been thinking “omg a bit of everything’s video is gonna be awesome on this” and every week I kept getting more excited as Agatha just kept getting better and better Also why didn’t Lilia and Alice disappear from the road? Lilia seemingly wanted a coven and alice would’ve likely wanted closure with her mother / her curse to end which happened
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
Lilia needed to face that area of her future she refused to acknowledge, to stop shutting herself off from her fate. She became a con artist instead, when her true purpose is to live her full loop and ensure the next generation of witches get where they need to. Alice needed to die protecting someone and reunite with her mom, she wasn't fulfilled being a mall cop. Her purpose is to be selfless, to not live in fear. Once she fulfills that, she's able to not just die and be a ghost, but move on, satisfied, knowing she died for something she believed in. It revealed that Agatha still wasn't done learning control, underlining her interaction with Billy as growth via Alice's sacrifice.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
That's so nice of you to say, @Playitcool_1963. Thanks so much for the positive feedback. And I love @nailinthefashion's answer to your question. I don't think I could say it much better. Thanks to both of you for hanging with me all these many weeks of breakdowns. It's been so much fun!
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U I'm gonna be rewatching the series and your breakdowns (along with Grace's) on loop until Ironheart debuts hahahaha. Thanks for celebrating these witches with us too. Can't wait for you to double your subs again 🖤👑
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
@@nailinthefashion Love it! Yeah, I watch all of Grace's stuff, too. She's awesome!
@junocrespo17742 ай бұрын
I think when Billy took over the body of William he also tucked Tommy's soul away somewhere and technically Wanda couldn't find him because Billy was the one who tuked him away and because of the sigil she couldn't find either of them
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I really like that idea!
@Jansenbaker2 ай бұрын
In my view, Tommy was unanchored. The part when Agatha says, "It's ok. That's you're mom folding her world." is her reassuring Billy that he hasn't lost the connection to Tommy, it's just the end of the memory. He "calibrates", by holding the feelings and memories in mind, aligning his and Tommy's minds with the last moment they shared together and finds Tommy's floating soul, then finds a place for him. "You can't keep him" refers to how he only really has room inside for himself. He has to quickly find a place to put Tommy before it does damage to Billy. The only part I could wonder about is "Breathe with Tommy. Breathe for him." It still lines up with him maintaining a connection with Tommy, but it can sound like your idea of Billy recreating Tommy. I just don't get how Billy could really recreate a person fully, even with mind reading. But maybe Rio took Tommy and she only had Billy left to find. I don't know. About Agatha, I saw an idea that she's too ashamed to see Nicky again because she abused their song for tricking witches. Sure Nicky was singing it at the tavern, but not directly to trick people, it was just to earn money. It was still their special thing. And Agatha may have technically fulfilled the deal by the end. Billy said she shouldn't have to sacrifice herself and he would do it. She went along with it, and to Rio it was going to be him. The only wrinkle is if Agatha's change of heart afterwards counted to forfeiting the deal or not. It lines up with Agatha's line of "I took a calculated risk", and Rio obviously didn't take her away, so I think the deal was fulfilled. Anyway, loved this show, and I hope they continue.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Excellent commentary on the show. it does seem they left things like exactly how Tommy was "reborn" and how Agatha avoided death to be abit mysterious. Your theories are definite possibilities for the solutions. And yeah, I agree, such a great show. Hope this is a sign of things to come for future MCU entries!
@EverythingisIlluminated2 ай бұрын
I’m a practicing witch and just as a comment- the “Breathe with Tommy” part : Billy doesn’t feel Confident in his power yet and breathwork creates the meditative state to connect with other spirits and conjure. So him breathing with Tommy is anchoring them together and getting him in the calmer mind state where he can control his gift in my opinion.
@Jansenbaker2 ай бұрын
@EverythingisIlluminated Ah. Good to know there's precedent for it.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
@@EverythingisIlluminated Very cool!
@larkin26622 ай бұрын
I had a lot of theories about the finale but outside of Billy creating the road, none of them came true. And I'm not upset about that. Some of the stuff I wanted was unnecessary to the story like Alice reuniting with her mother or the backstory of how Agatha met Rio. The good thing about fan theory is all that stuff can still exist as long as it doesn't conflict with what is canon to the show. So, to me, it happened, we just didn't see it. Some thoughts-- I think Billy repurposed the underground transit system into the witches' road. I think those tunnels that Lilia and Jen walked through in episode 7 do exist but Billy redressed them to fit his vision of the witches' road. My theory earlier of Lilia and Jen stepping into the air trial through "shelving" was most likely a utility door. I do think Billy read the minds of the coven to create the trials. Agatha gave him the suggestion of passing trials were how witches would progress down the road. I do think we are sleeping on how Billy created the first trial. I believe he got the idea of the beachfront house from his 'vision board' in his bedroom and reading Sharon Davis's mind. Sharon seemed to be upper class in her tastes and everything about that house, from the wine tasting to the fancy kitchen all points to her being the inspiration of the first trial. I had a theory Death has been after Billy all along in order to collect William Kaplan's body. But it gets blown up pretty early in the show, because if she was looking for William Kaplan's body, she would have sensed him in episode 1 when she was standing in front of him while he was tied up in the closet. The only way for her to not recognize him is due to the sigil. Rio probably suspected something was up with 'Teen' due to her conversations with Agatha in episode 4 but doesn't know what it is. It's probably until the sigil is lifted in episode 7 when Rio realizes the truth and Billy Maximoff stole a second life. I know this is a moot point, but it's always bothered me to what exactly threw 'Teen' through the glass window in episode 4. That was not Alice's demon. Now, I'm entertaining the idea of Billy threw his own self through the glass window. Perhaps, he is that desperate to be included in the coven and seeing all the other witches being burdened and burned with Alice's demon, he subconsciously threw himself through the window; in order to feel he is participating in the 'blessings and burdens'. His injury with the glass fragment may have manifested during Lorna's ballad because he still didn't feel he was adequately facing the same dire consequences as the other witches. I think at the time when Death was talking about Tommy before the Earth trial, Tommy's soul was in William Kaplan's body and being held subconsciously by Billy Maximoff. That's why Billy tells Agatha in episode 7, he can feel Tommy, but he can't find him. Its why Tommy is more important to Billy than Wanda in the 3 years he was living with the Kaplans. He's unaware he is holding Tommy inside himself. I don't think Tommy's soul is wandering for 3 years around Westview/Eastview without Wanda not being able to find him in her reality. The sigil worked on both WIlliam Kaplan and Billy Maximoff, why not on Tommy Maximoff as well if Tommy is residing deep in Billy Maximoff's soul. Also, Billy Maximoff is unaware of his abilities; he believes he learned magic through analog practice when he actually is born from magic. It would make sense he would be unaware Tommy is co-existing within him. Agatha forced Billy to relinquish Tommy from his protection and look for another vessel, reincarnating his brother for a 'second life'. Jac Schaeffer has said in interviews that she wanted to keep Tommy's reincarnation to be roughly the same age as Billy's. This means the vessel, the boy who drowned, is roughly 16 years old. That's old enough for the teenage boy to be aware of his sexuality. In the comics, Tommy Shepherd is bisexual. It's possible the boys bullying him and 'drowning' him is partly due to his sexuality. It also could be the reason why his parents, probably very religiously conservative, divorced or not, aren't there to love him. Tommy is in a bad place due to Tommy Shepherd being in a bad place. My guess Tommy is in juvenile hall or foster home or in some sort of detention facility. I know it's highly coincidental, but I hope Marvel keeps to the idea the body Tommy Maximoff goes into is Tommy or Thomas Shepherd. I know I'll have other thoughts on this show. It's definitely among my favorites of the Marvel Disney+ shows. It could be because it's still fresh in my mind, it is my new favorite. I hope Marvel already has plans for a follow-up. 3 years between WandaVision and Agatha All Along is way too long. I'm 50/50 on Vision Quest being the right place for the search for Tommy. For some reason that show seems to be more technology based with Vision as a central character and Ultron. I hope the search for Tommy is central to the story with Agatha and Wiccan as leads than a side story in Vision Quest. Hopefully we learn something new with upcoming D23 or future cons. Vision Quest and most likely Daredevil Born Again season 2 are 2026 releases but I hope the rumored Wiccan project could be the next place we see Agatha and Billy, possibly in early 2027, before Secret Wars releases later that spring.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Fantastic commentary on the finale. I really love your idea of Tommy being bulled due to his sexuality. That's a great theory!
@herb42432 ай бұрын
I really liked this finale but I’m surprised by a few things. I thought the Salem’s seven would be a bit more important. They looked like an actual threat looming on the characters during the whole show but they ended up just dying randomly. I still think episode 7 was amazing and Lilia’s sacrifice was very cool, but I thought we would see and learn more of them. Also, I thought we would learn more about the darkhold backstory. There was this whole thing about Agatha allegedly trading her son for the darkhold, and when confronted with it, she says that « the truth is worse ». In the end, we still do not know where the darkhold comes from, and from what we’ve seen, the truth was not that bad. Unless maybe it’s because she had to kill other witches to keep Nicholas alive and she did not want others to know that. I’m also surprised that this show doesn’t have an actual end state. Instead, it’s an open ending and we don’t know exactly where the characters are going. That makes me really curious as to if and where we’re going to see Agatha again!
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
I liked that the S7 were more of a metaphor of Agatha's past. Once she wanted to move on, she let someone help her finally. She finally understood what it meant to be in a coven. It's not about amassing power, but relying on each other. So she honors Lilia by also sacrificing herself, for the sake of the future, the next generation, living on in her stead. I didn't need a battle, I needed closure and I got that.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great feedback, @herb4243. Being someone myself that likes all the T's crossed and the I's dotted, I agree, i would have liked answers to those questions. But I do still like the character arcs we got and the closure that @nailinthefashion mentions. So I can live with some open items for now, but I agree, I'd love to see them answered at some point. As for Agatha and Billy, I suspect we'll see them in Vision Quest as they seek out Tommy and then again in a Young Avengers show. Can't wait!
@ericdavis19872 ай бұрын
i guess at the last second Agatha's outburst to Billy about not knowing how to complete the road made the last test become a 'find a way to escape' trial?
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Good point...yeah, it did essentially do that. Nice call!
@akhiro22482 ай бұрын
Agatha is a spirit witch too so her helping Billy's brother spirit is cool
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Well said...yeah, that's really cool!
@Latch-2 ай бұрын
I'm glad your channel keeps growing.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Thanks! That's very nice of you to say!
@kyoto30312 ай бұрын
Because Tommy and Billy soul came together to make one so he had Tommy with him the whole time which is why Wanda couldn't find both of them.... they wrote this soo well with no loose ends on the parts that are necessary to this particular story
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
I love this idea!
@JustcallmeJ7232 ай бұрын
I wonder if spirit witches like Agatha are seen as evil by elemental witches in the MCU? Maybe that’s why she was “born evil”
@emilyk51682 ай бұрын
I agree with this. All the Salem coven had blue magic and they just see the purple as evil. It's a queer metaphor.
@nailinthefashion2 ай бұрын
I think siphon magic is very rare. So rare that her mom probably thought of it as a curse. As someone else mentioned it's a perfect parallel to being queer. I didn't ask for this, it's just my capacity. She learns to control it, to not let it be a burden but an asset. In a similar way, once lgbt people accept who they are their lives become something more than a tragedy.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Good theory, @JustcallmeJ723.
@Shawn_Carley2 ай бұрын
Looking back at all the name changes to this series (Agatha: House of Harkness, Agatha: Coven of Chaos, Agatha: Darkhold Diaries), it’s wild none were something like “Agatha: Down the Witch’s Road” or incorporating the Road in some manner. I do, however, like the title we ended up with. Also, for having zero expectations for this, it miiiight be my new favorite MCU D+ show.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Such a good show...absolutely loved it. And I agree, the title they landed on was great!
@ozzyomega86742 ай бұрын
They way I undertood it was that Billy has unknowingly safekept Tommy's soul all this time, that's why he could feel him all this time. It also could be that Billy used his conection to Tommy to bring his soul back from the afterlife. Personally, I think it's the former.
@AbitofEverything4U2 ай бұрын
Great theory...I agree, the former makes the most sense to me as well.
@eternalvariant2 ай бұрын
i can’t wait to see what’s next! the magic corner of the mcu needs to keep growing! wiccan will be our new sorcerer supreme.