All The POWER | Add Headroom To Your Low Wattage Tube Amp With An External Portable Power Amp!!

[@onepathforme]

FINALLY....a youtube guitarists that understands the trials and tribulations of DIY hardcore!

[@belligerentamateur]

Don't forget the struggle, don't forget the streets

[@jenswahl5434]

@@belligerentamateur :D

[@DavidAllenMD]

​@@belligerentamateur so a power amp can power a regular amp?!I'm tryna figure out

[@DavidAllenMD]

​@@belligerentamateur I could run to amp from the effects loop to the power app to the cab?

[@mattvanelli817]

Love your videos, dude. Informative and to the point with some solid banter thrown in. You've helped me a lot with some gear decisions I've made from watching you in the past.

[@romusromulus]

Never forget to connect your amp's cab. All tube amps have to be connected to a cab or a dummyload. And I watch these videos for two weeks now and each time he says e standard tuning in intro , each time I've managed to hear it as EastEnder.

[@travispurkey4325]

when you say the pre amp out of the syn 30 to the power stage do you mean the out of the effects loop or the balanced output??

[@wolfhorsky]

MT15 is exceptional in that regard, I used mine Mt15 with PowerStage 170 and ... PS170 was less ooommmphhhy...

[@itsmechris14]

Me too only with a pedal baby

[@davidfaustino4476]

Yeah I have the Synergy 30 combo. I hear you about headroom. I also have the Synergy 50 head.. and dear god that thing is loud and STOUT.

[@GiantsWithin-jl4gh]

As an option for amp with no dedicated slave out use a stereo chorus or delay or rack effects processor with 2 outputs in the Effects loop. Then the loop return still allows the local amp to run wile you push the split signal to the higher power power amp. I've done this before to get more headroom out of a lower powered amp and maintain good clean/ dirty tones

[@1thess523]

My son had a Hughes and Kettner tubemeister 18 for a while and that struggled to keep up with my Drum set just in our garage, his current Badcat Cub 40R can hang all day long

[@MykEviiL]

Alright here's what I want to connect somehow. Jubilee 20 watt combo amp. With built in speaker. It is connected to a 16 ohm jack. The amp has other speaker Jack's respectively including 8 or 16 ohm and 8 or 4 ohm Jack's. I don't want to use an extension cab just a power amp to get more power. The amp has an FX Send and Return. It also has a D.I. out. I'm looking at the Magnum 44 power amp by Electro Harmonix. It has one input for the signal then a speaker out which must be connected to a speaker load. So do I connect it like this...??? Do I need to use my captor X rated at 8ohms as well? Is the D.I. out the same as a power amp out...on the amplifier. D.I. out from jubilee combo amp to input of magnum 44. Magnum 44 speaker output to Captor X speaker cab input. Remember there is also a speaker in the combo amp that is already connected. Will this allow me to use the Magnum 44 to increase headroom Will this defeat the internal speaker... How can I do this without the need for an extension cab???

[@FEVERDREAM1983]

Brother, please, calm down.

[@DJ33]

KSR PA 50 is a dynamite LBX power amp that kickass.

[@MetalheadOv666]

50w tube power amp isn’t really a lbx power amp. That thing is super loud and keep up with a band just as a 5150iii 50w head will. A Powerstage 200 is nowhere near as loud unless you’re playing through a 4ohm cab to get the 200w. If 8ohms it’ll be 100w and 16ohms is like 50w. Even the 200wdoesnt sound as good as a 50w tube power amp. I’ve had all 3 Powerstage power amps and got rid of them all. The Powerstage 700 was loud af tho

[@andrepetroff6354]

What about using a AB-box on the effects loop to duplicate the signal to the powerstage and to the effects return of the amp?

[@kenbell9094]

Right... I would use an AB/Y-Box.

[@redstrat5976]

What do you guys mean? Explain?

[@redstrat5976]

@@kenbell9094 What do you guys mean? Explain?

[@giuseppeschintu7393]

I have an Amped 3, but its volume isn't still enough despite it runs on 100watt. Amped has a dedicated Out (wich I suppose it works like a Line Out of the preamp); The question is, can I send the signal from the Line Out of the Amped 3 into an External Power Amp like this and than send it into the Return Loop of the Amped to increase the overall volume of the amplifier?

[@nathancloud6344]

Really nice video, Mr Bull. I care for this!!

[@scottpeters4401]

I do this with my rig,except I use a Fryette PS100…..works great…

[@massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002]

Cool video. Nerdy but heavy and I like it I just recently whipped out an old guitar from my Garage. It has a Dimarzio X2n, and I have never heard that guitar from a full tube amp. With that guitar I dont like the blue channel so much on my stealth. But the red channel loves it. The x2n is all about pushing the tube

[@paulcarter105]

Would this work plugged into the orange micro dark fx loop since it’s already a solid state power amp

[@redstrat5976]

Right I want to know too

[@tomchagas]

The amp send output goes to input of the powerstage. Do you use a loadbox in the amp? Because the speaker Cable is in the Powerstage to the cab, right?

[@danc3746]

My ENGL Fireball 25w head has a "Line Output", is that the same as a "preamp out" spoken about in this video?

[@mattlauer6817]

Would the sd 200 have enough headroom to play live without using a mic?

[@belligerentamateur]

If you're going into a 4 ohm cabinet, yes

[@metalman7777777]

Good job explaining your synergy rig with seymour powerstage 200 🔥😎🔥

[@savoirfaire8979]

I do the same thing into Bose S1 Pro powered PA speakers.

[@lilgatorade_]

Will both power amps going into one cab hurt the cab or the amps?

[@soad11dude]

I actually had an idea to make a video like this a little while ago. I've got a few amps that I was going to do a blind test with. (orange cr120, 6505+, XXX, bandit, chorus 212, etc) "6505+ preamp into 10 different power amps" Just to see how much the power section affects the tone. There doesn't seem to be many comparisons out there on the topic and the comparisons I've seen aren't the highest quality (camera mics and bad audio) Once I have my conclusions from that comparison. I'll do the opposite. 10 different pre amps into my favourite of all the power amps I shootout. I'll hopefully record my mad science experiment next week after I have my YCS50 for a EL34 candidate Would love to see you make a similar comparison video \m/

[@itsmechris14]

Just hot rod your 6505+ by connecting your send into the return

[@soad11dude]

@@itsmechris14 that's not what I was talking about at all in my comment.. and it's not like a Valveking with its effect loop or like jumpering the multiple inputs on an old marshall

[@FEVERDREAM1983]

System of a down sucks

[@kevinindra9515]

I have a Laney Ironheart Studio 15Watt amp, can I use an additional power amp?

[@cantfindamerica877]

Most very smart, Grasshopper, In case ur to young for this phrase it was popular in the 70’s due to a David Carradine show call Kung Fu. God Bless , Erie

[@FEVERDREAM1983]

Careful there bud. I got canceled for pulling my temples back to make the classic Asian eye shape. I never even got to the grasshopper line before my agent dropped me, JELLO pudding rescinded their endorsement, my sweater collection was repoed, and 57 women accused me of sexual assault. Also wasn't David Carradine the guy who died doing a choke jerk between takes of Kill Bill?

[@joshuakarar3594]

I know Boss did something like this, but would like to see an affordable no frills power amp with a reactive load built in, so you could just plug the speaker out of a lunchbox head into this device then out to your cab(s) and leave it at your rehearsal space/take to gigs, then take the lunchbox head home with you. Of course the same could be done with your proposed torpedo + powerstage solution you mentioned.

[@erikwithakayy]

Stuff like this exists: Boss Tube Amp Expander, Fryette Power Station

[@goodgriefitssimon]

Gary Holt of Exodus & formerly Slayer recently did some promotional appearances for his ESP guitar line … & used only his Power Stage and a Quad Cortex to plug into a Engl 412. He left his Engl Savage guitar amp on stage but completely off - like some stage decoration.

[@deskducker]

When I saw him in Tustin CA audience asked about the ENGL. His answer was exactly that. In fact, it sounded so good (and the fact that he was not endorsing the QC), I bought one the next day. Recently, found crazy deal on SD 700. Sounds amazing.

[@deskducker]

He also said that he was playing a jubilee Marshall in the QC. Not an ENGL

[@hierrogm]

Awesome …Very cool I have mt15 …which Is loud already …but a boosts would be killer

[@clintmapes8454]

A quick shot of the back of the amp would help people see what you are talkn about when it comes to the preamp out. I have RevvG20 and Engl ironball e606 se and both just have efx loop. I solved the volume issue. Buy 2 20watters. Now have 40 watts lol.

[@Nitrav.]

Hi Kyle, Love your amp review video. May I know what do you think about Jet City 100 hdm amp. Is it better than Marshall dsl100. Or DSL 100 is much better amp than jet city 100. What do you think about these amp matter a lot for me, please reply. Thanks for your awasome videos.

[@MK-oz2lf]

Yo Kyle, have you tried any of the Quilter high gain amps like the Overdrive 200 or 202? They were inspired by a staffer’s Mark II C+ Dumble amp. Analog solid state with 400 watts of power total

[@metalprophetPerkins]

I have the overdrive 200. It's a monster and a fantastic poweramp if you wanna use a preamp

[@adamalexanderray]

Third time asking now, what does your head look like without a hat on?

[@mattwurm]

Have you used the Powerstage at a gigging volume for any extended period of time? I have a Powerstage 170 and it seems like it gets hot and I worry about it failing.

[@belligerentamateur]

I used the 200 for practice at 4 ohms and it seemed fine for me. I also didn't clip the pre or power amp at all

[@PippPriss]

At 4 Ohms you don't have to worry at all. 16 ohm can be a bit demanding voluemwise, but no I would not worry about the heat becoming a problem at any times.

[@Rantila718]

Lol…that grin after you hit the button..z

[@itsmechris14]

Old news, I have a orange pedal baby turning my prs/mt15 into a hundred watt beast!!

[@TheOtherJohnBrowne]

YEAH! SCIENCE!

[@TheCyberMantis]

Yeah, physics!

[@moparbryan]

Ya Kyle your getting a lot of popping and distortion through your lav mic just a heads up

[@belligerentamateur]

It's not any of the audio on my end. Everything is well within tolerance. It only happens when I upload to KZbin for some reason.

[@stug5041]

Awesome idea!!

[@crazy.scorpio]

Good stuff, cool..

[@greenwave792]

Brilliant

[@DavidAllenMD]

Really u only about 20 watts in a 4 by 12 to keep up with a bad at least for the joyo zombie

[@felixsuarez3940]

Wouldn't this need a load box so you won't blow the tube amp!

[@belligerentamateur]

No sir, the tube amp is going into two of the speakers and the powerstage is going into the other 2

[@felixsuarez3940]

@@belligerentamateur oh but I would need one since im using one cab

[@belligerentamateur]

@@felixsuarez3940 I have it going into a single cab in this video, but it has to have a stereo Jack plate on it

[@felixsuarez3940]

@@belligerentamateur how would I do this with two cabs?

[@belligerentamateur]

@@felixsuarez3940 the same way I do it in the video, but with 2 cabs lol

[@gatrick1]

Would of been more helpfull if you would of explained your inputs and out input from both amps

[@regor5150]

Ok either I'm confused as to how you did this, or this video is misleading. Did you bridge both speaker outs into the same input jack on the cab? Or are you running the amp head out into 1/2 the cab, and the SS PA into the other 1/2 of the cab? Because if that's how you wired it up, then your perceived volume increase is simply because you're going from 2 speakers at a time, to 4 speakers at the same time. And of COURSE you're going to get a volume increase. So that's not really proving your point here, IF that's the case. I'd wanna see a comparison between the amp head going mono into the 4x12, and this half and half setup.

[@russelllucas1043]

I think I would just buy a bigger amp. I enjoyed the video though. 👍

[@belligerentamateur]

I think you missed the point of the demonstration, haha. Thansk man!

[@russelllucas1043]

All good Kyle

[@redstrat5976]

@@belligerentamateur could you do the same thing with hybrid amp like the orange micro dark

[@belligerentamateur]

@@redstrat5976 yep!

[@TheOtherJohnBrowne]

You pointing towards a list of patreons that isn't there is so funny that I legit think you might have done it on purpose. It's 50/50. Not making fun by any means by the way. It legit made me laugh and wonder if you're pranking us

[@infinidominion]

These look cool until price is checked

[@xsonicassassinx]

because loud is more good

[@smeemusic]

Wait... I thought you had patreon members? Are you making a joke that you have no members or did you forget to put the list in the video? Lol

[@davidfaustino4476]

Nah. You're just using the amps preamp into the power stage. The preamp is effectively zero watts lol.

[@belligerentamateur]

Yah. it's called amplifying the preamp of a full amp a second time and combining them. Still using the original preamp AND power amp in tandem with an additional small external power amp in order to increase both volume and headroom your comment doesn't really make any sense, but thanks for watching!

[@bmark7951]

I’m afraid if I ask you for the time u will tell me how to build a watch🫤