All the Romani subgroups EXPLAINED by a Romani person

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Florian

Florian

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@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Hope y’all enjoyed this video, it took a long time to make and edit but i’m proud of how it came out! There’s so much diversity among Roma and many different groups but it can be very confusing figuring out the difference and connections between each one, hopefully this video helped provide some clarity and teach you something new! If you’re Roma let me know what subgroup you belong to and a little bit about your history!
@QuestionsAnswerz
@QuestionsAnswerz 7 ай бұрын
s/o to you for bringing up My people Arli roma. We have the most legendary roma singers from across the world! 💙❤️💚
@6PrincessHeart9
@6PrincessHeart9 7 ай бұрын
Do you know of any good resources (like an online dictionary) for someone who wants to learn some Roma words, specifically for the Roma dialect in Romania?
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
@@6PrincessHeart9We consider our language to be a closed practice so we don’t share the Romani language with non-Roma, there are some limited resources online but we ask that those be left to Roma who were adopted or did not get raised with the language out of respect for our culture.
@murrvvmurr
@murrvvmurr 7 ай бұрын
4:04 Here 🇨🇭we have a traveling people called YENISH where do they fit in this family tree?
@katzenbekloppt_mf
@katzenbekloppt_mf 7 ай бұрын
​@@murrvvmurrJenische sind eine eigene Gruppe, gehören nicht zu den Roma (ähnlich den irischen Travellers). Startpage mal Ralf Grabuschnik. Der hat gerade ein tolles Buch rausgebracht "Unterwegs zwischen Grenzen" über Minderheiten in Europa und auch die porträtiert. Er macht einen tollen historischen Podcast "Deja-vu Geschichte" und in einigen Episoden berichtet er auch von Treffen mit Sorben oder eben Jenischen auf seinen Forschungsreisen zu dem Buch. English: no, jenische are not Roma, like irish travellers. I mentioned an austrian historic who makes a wonderful podcast in german language and just wrpte a book about european minorities in which they are mentioned.
@jashandeep9652
@jashandeep9652 7 ай бұрын
Hey Florian, I am from punjab, India. I saw all your videos, my language punjabi and it's vocabulary is quite similar to Romani. We are just basically cousins. ❤ so much love and appreciation for you and your wonderful community/groups and sub groups. ❤
@katzenbekloppt_mf
@katzenbekloppt_mf 7 ай бұрын
Yep, I learned that with my then pakistani husband from the punjab when we visited a roma- organisation here in Berlin to get some help for a roma family that tragically lost their child to an accident in a refugee-boarding-house (we met in church, he had to run from Pakistan belonging to the christian minority and then helped other refugees here). He also didn't know this that time and found it quite interesting.
@jashandeep9652
@jashandeep9652 7 ай бұрын
@@katzenbekloppt_mfoh wow, isn't that interesting?. And you know that my language - punjabi - is heavily borrowed from hindi which is spoken widely in India, Urdu in Pakistan and Persian (farsi, in my tongue) of Iran. In fact, the word punjab is of Persian origin: punj = five and aab = river. We are from the land of five rivers. So whenever Florian refers to India, like Central India or Northern India (where punjab and Rajasthan exist), he's basically referring to most of things (language wise) which may be foreign to him but are still present even if that they had left India since 10th or 11th century. I guess what I'm saying is that we have more things in common to unite us than to divide us which I believe is true for all mankind.
@katzenbekloppt_mf
@katzenbekloppt_mf 7 ай бұрын
@@jashandeep9652 Exactly! I am mixed south-american and german, so from birth on I guess was feeling more a "world citizen". And yes, I know that Urdu and Hindi are mostly the same, except some words, that are mostly connected to being muslim or hindu. Like greetings for example. And that Urdu is written in farsi alphabeth (which I cannot read) and Hindi in what I call "flower-like alphabet" - sorry I always forget the name - from left to right like our european alphabet. And that in Pakistan everybody speaks Urdu and then a regional language like Pubjabi or Pashtu and in India not everybody speaks Hindi, which makes it more difficult. As a vegan my most loved kitchen always had been the asian and there most the "indian" (spoken for the subcontinent). As Sahil had mostly muslim pakistani friends it was very welcome to them that they could have safely eaten at my flat and they accepted that I am vegan and therefor have also strict eating regularies, so they cooked with special ingredients for me. That felt very validated😊 The world could be such a peaceful place if we all try to be more interested in each other and look for what we have in common and embrace that instead fearfully focus on the differences. Of cause I don't like everything and everyone, but that's just human. And we all are used to things we grew up with. Most germans for example simply cannot eat spicy food and for me german food mostly tastes like boring unspiced. But nearly all love mango lassi or spiced tea with (soy-)milk (they call it "Yogi-tea" here or even worse "chai-tea"🤣, like tea-tea, but okay...). You know what I mean? Greetings to the Punjab👋🏽
@moonlight_cat_27
@moonlight_cat_27 7 ай бұрын
yes, romani and punjabi are both related (as well as hindi, urdu, bengali, and others)
@jashandeep9652
@jashandeep9652 7 ай бұрын
@@katzenbekloppt_mf oh wow, you really are a "world citizen". Greetings to you too and to your beautiful country. And you really know alot about everything we are talking about. I'm glad that you have had such pleasant experiences in life. I have a Peruvian friend also. He's really one of the best people; so humble and amazing. Which country in South America, exactly?.
@maxixe3143
@maxixe3143 7 ай бұрын
Minor thing, but I love how the graphics that show the highlighted countries are placed over the globe rather than just manifesting in thin air. It's those little details that really show how much effort was put into this!
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, I’m glad you noticed that detail!
@juliawidmaier5334
@juliawidmaier5334 7 ай бұрын
Gosh, the amount of anthropological work that was put in to connect the different groups is amazing. It's wonderful this information is available.
@nubianprincess2771
@nubianprincess2771 7 ай бұрын
Black American here. We have a large population of Irish Travelers, and Rominchals here in Virginia. I appreciate you presenting a longer video on the Roma people. Thank you!!
@MountainDewComacho494
@MountainDewComacho494 7 ай бұрын
I came across some Siganos in Central Brasil. There were some that lived in houses but most I came across were travelers. They taught me a lot about them. I didn’t know that they spoke a different language. Their language doesn’t sound anything like any other language I am familiar with. They were friendly people. And no, we did not get robbed.
@selina5598
@selina5598 6 ай бұрын
IT are Irish, not Romany at all. Different people
@nubianprincess2771
@nubianprincess2771 6 ай бұрын
@@selina5598 Thanks for clarifying! Peace ✌🏾
@damianlopezdealexander8169
@damianlopezdealexander8169 4 ай бұрын
Ey te Aves bajtalo/i ! I'm rom kalderash from México. I was born speaking both spanish and kalderashaika chib, and my wife's background is african due to her family being from Bahamas. She's a black mexican woman and myself a Megitano. Nowadays we have a little toddler, and I only speak romanes with my daughter and at the same time, we investigate, and we are so proud of her african heritage. It's so awesome how the history of our ethnicities has resulted in my current everyday's joy Te suntsol o del
@Billyjoe-xh9bw
@Billyjoe-xh9bw 3 ай бұрын
sorry for late replay but irish "travellers" or irish gypsies are actually a group of nomdic people from ireland/scotland names Pavee and are not roma/Sinti/gypsy or romanichal entire seperate group of people and dont speak our languege and are native no southeast asian origin. hope this helps you-Norwegian Romani here
@ina247
@ina247 7 ай бұрын
I love your channel, Florian! As a Brazilian myself I've never heard of Juscelino Kubitschek being of romani origin, no one never told me about this when I was at school (and I bet no one talks about this even nowadays). So I think it's sad in a way that I only learned about this by chance when I found your channel, because I think we Brazilians should be aware of this! Romani culture is very present here (well, at least where I live). There are several romani celebrations in my city along the year, but still, we non-romani mostly have access here to a romanticized view of romani people, and there is a lot of prejudice in regards to romani culture and people. It's intersting to note that here in Brazil, romani culture was incorporated in an Afro-Brazilian religion called Umbanda, which mixes African (Yoruba/Iorubá), Native (mostly tupy-guarany/tupi-guarani), Christian and often Romani cultures/practices/beliefs. So for most Brazilians, this is the first source of knowledge about romani culture and people.
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Check out Jade Kalin if you haven’t already, she’s a Brazilian Romani creator who makes a lot of content about Brazilian Roma in Portuguese!
@ina247
@ina247 7 ай бұрын
@@florida.florian thanks for the recomendation!
@AwesomeAnimationStudios
@AwesomeAnimationStudios 7 ай бұрын
@@florida.florian Dang! In between Brazil having one the Largest Romai Populations in the Americas, largest population of African descended people in the Americas, And largest population of Japanese people outside of Japan, as well as A ton of Indians, Italians, Germans, Portuguese, and of course the indigenous people, and considering how These Cultures and ethnicities both mixed to create entirely new communities, stay distinct With some town seemingly copy and pasted from Japan or Germany(Architecturally, linguistically, Nationally, ethnically, culturally, so and so forth) and Involving like with African Brazilian culture and Religions like Yoruda, Brazil really is the most diverse place,
@AwesomeAnimationStudios
@AwesomeAnimationStudios 7 ай бұрын
Did I miss anyone?
@amandaalves6936
@amandaalves6936 7 ай бұрын
There a lot of people are descended of them in Minas Gerais
@mafuteru
@mafuteru 7 ай бұрын
Im finnish roma and as a child I remember seeing all kinds of different roma around the world on TV. I would often ask my family, how come they're roma but they don't follow the same rules / dress code as us? (finnish roma have vry distinct clothing) My family didn't really have the knowledge to answer me so the moment I saw this video in my recommended I got so excited. Wonderfully educational video! The visuals + pace of the video were very pleasing as well :}
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 7 ай бұрын
As an ethnic Fennoswede, every time a see a Roma I can’t help but admire how beautiful the dress is.
@corinna007
@corinna007 7 ай бұрын
I have a Finnish friend who has told me she has Roma heritage. 😊 I had no idea until she mentioned it that Roma had migrated that far north.
@DT-xz7hb
@DT-xz7hb 7 ай бұрын
I thought it was so cool to learn the ethymology of Kale Romani. From what I understand it is also the translation used in Finnish - Mustalainen? Sorry if I am being ignorant
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 7 ай бұрын
@@DT-xz7hb The word _musta_ means black (like the colour), so it could be translated as “bl**ky” I think, and basically serves the same function as the English G-slur. If I’ve understood correctly, the word is considered a slur in Finnish as well.
@moss5635
@moss5635 7 ай бұрын
Here in Slovakia where you can find them literally everywhere, they are called cigáni or rómovia. For them cigáň is a slur. It basically means darker one as a slang but mostly the primary meaning is liar.
@DT-xz7hb
@DT-xz7hb 7 ай бұрын
THIS is what the internet was made for. Thank you for always educating us Florian ❤
@savage.4.24
@savage.4.24 7 ай бұрын
He needs a gofund me so he can do this on a ted talk. This needs more exposure.
@DT-xz7hb
@DT-xz7hb 7 ай бұрын
@@savage.4.24 I wish I learnt the complexities and beauty of Romani culture at school
@Paula-133
@Paula-133 7 ай бұрын
I am African American and I have always loved learning about all these groups of romani peoples. I knew the were a lot because a friend who had a Romani boyfriend wrote words out for me to learn many years ago. While you were talking I actually remembered some of the group names. Your history, and culture, music is so beautiful I feel so lucky to know a little about the Romani and you are doing this such amazing work educating the world.
@teucer915
@teucer915 6 ай бұрын
"we also have a Romani name, but I will not be sharing that" honestly after everything your people have been through, I respect you setting boundaries even if they're not the same boundaries my culture would tend to set. I'm glad to learn what you choose to share, and part of that is learning to respect that I'm not entitled to learn everything.
@mikemeyer1429
@mikemeyer1429 8 күн бұрын
@teucer915 what about what I've been through ? They stole my bike !
@Jon-w2g
@Jon-w2g 5 күн бұрын
That name is Tzigani. Similar to Zingari in Italy. That is their original name. The communists prohibited calling the Gypsies "Tzigani" because that name was related to stealing, cheating and the rest of the Gypsies nefarious occupations. Not all the Gypsies did that, but majority made a living that way. The communists prohibited that name as somehow that will clear the Gypsies of their reputation.
@gloriasteinbach982
@gloriasteinbach982 7 ай бұрын
Im a dutch sinti and i can honestly say me and my mother learned so much from your channel about our history! Much of the knowledge about our ways and why we do things we do and how our language came about and evolved was a blur to us please keep making these videos they're also very educational to us !
@agender7052
@agender7052 7 ай бұрын
My ancestry is Magyarországi Romák, my grandmother was always being asked by First Nations people here in Canada whether she was First Nations or not (she always said with a big smile how much that flattered her). Sadly, however, we don't know a lot about whether the family was Romungre, Lovari, Boyash, or possibly another subgroup. Her mother (who was adopted into a German family) was so impacted by anti-Romani racism growing up that she refused to talk about the family heritage at all out of a deep shame about it, and pretended she wasn't Romani. My grandmother really wanted to find out more, since all she knew was that her biological grandfather was Hungarian Romani and not even what part of Hungary the family was originally from, but sadly her mother's adoptive parents wouldn't tell her anything out of respect for her mother's wishes for it not to be a topic of conversation. She said her grandparents were very positive about Romani people and really wanted to tell her, but they didn't want to further traumatize their daughter after the horrible socialization she had had growing up from cruel German kids (and adults) by bringing it up, and although her grandfather was still alive when her mother died, by that time he had dementia and she wasn't able to have those kinds of conversations with him. She moved to Canada as an adult with her German husband before having my dad and my uncle. My dad was never all that interested in finding anything out, but my uncle and I have contemplated a trip to Europe to try and track down our family, as we both share the same interest my grandmother had. However, it's a really daunting task with such a small amount of information as we have from my grandmother, who has since passed away. We don't even have her grandfather's surname, since only her mother and adoptive grandparents knew that. She always spoke so sadly about how traumatized my great-grandmother was about our heritage, and how much she regretted not being able to connect with a heritage that she could see so visibly every time she looked at her mother or in the mirror. She was always curious about other Romani people and Romani cultures, and learned as much as she could to try and connect with that part of her heritage, but I think she always missed not having that cultural connection and knowledge of her own biological family and where they came from from specifically. I wish she had lived to see your youtube channel, I know she would have clicked on every video, excited to learn more!
@jenreese7608
@jenreese7608 5 ай бұрын
My maternal great grandmother was a Hungarian Romani who moved to the states as a child. I don’t know which subgroup she was from either. She taught my mom words that are either Romani or Hungarian words that are no longer in use. I do know her maiden name at least. My nana, her daughter, would always get asked if she was Italian. She had dark hair and brown eyes and dark circles that never went away. Her father was Irish. I’ve always been proud to be a Romani but I don’t have to face the racism that others have
@Teajay21
@Teajay21 5 ай бұрын
I had a friend who found out her family was Polish Romani but because of anti Roma discrimination her family basically whitewashed their heritage when they moved to Canada as well and so she doesn't have access to her history/heritage
@PossibleBat
@PossibleBat 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, you are doing an amazing job by immortalizing Roma culture and history, specially considering most Roma do not have a written history and it’s all spoken history, which I understand the retaliation against written history for Roma, because their history has been manipulated for many racist reasons, but still, having "documents" backing you up is necessary, or otherwise you risk being forgotten in history.
@TheMissDebyluv
@TheMissDebyluv 7 ай бұрын
With medias we have today such as videos and audio recordings, it is now much easier to keep record of it.
@hultonclint
@hultonclint 7 ай бұрын
All this info is from secondary sources, scholarship that has been done. So, it has already been documented / "immortalized." He is just repeating it.
@MoonlightEmbrace
@MoonlightEmbrace 7 ай бұрын
When you mentioned the Roma subgroups who speak an older form of Romanian I got very excited because I thought, as a Romanian, by studying their language, we could discover how old Vlachs used to speak. Then I got sad because of all the institutional racism that’s keeping such knowledge away from the common people. Thank you for sharing information that I wish I would have learned in school about the Romani people ❤
@KuquisHere
@KuquisHere 22 күн бұрын
Same here, I totally agree. If you have the occasion to speak to an old rudar, take it and do it. They have such a unique way of speaking Romanian. I don't know if it was just my experience, but that part of the video makes me think it was not :) Unfortunately, no one does this kind of study.
@iulianzagan779
@iulianzagan779 5 күн бұрын
I've just googled for "Boyash language" and I found a paperwork about it: www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=aab-philologica.kmf.uz.ua/aabp/article/download/13/13/22&ved=2ahUKEwjEx4uHyeOKAxUmIhAIHZ22CbEQFnoECFMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2nHlJdr8kri1tPws2-8dWh You can also use KZbin and search for this mentioned language, I found several clips. I was able to understand a lot from their language, which is expected since I am Romanian. I disagree with you that racism is preventing us to learn about this "invented" language. The Boyash (Baiesi - meaning miners) people were forced by us, Romanians, to forget their language and start speaking our language, to be able to serve us better. Unfortunatelly, we did this awfull thing to them! I am sorry that our boyars (nobles) did this to the gypsies, but that was the times. From a quick view, I don't think studying Boyash language will reveal too much for us, Romanians, because they were forced to learn a limitted language without a proper teacher, therefore, they took a very diformed version of the old Romanian spoken only in a part of Transylvania (Apuseni mountains).
@williamjmansfield8768
@williamjmansfield8768 7 ай бұрын
85 y/o who has an interest in people groups and language. Excellent presentation. Very informative.
@bliss9595
@bliss9595 7 ай бұрын
You are doing incredible job for your people! I hope that one day the Romani will get the recognition they deserve for countless contributions to world’s culture. Keep up the God’s work Florian, love from a Ukrainian
@ebr7774
@ebr7774 7 ай бұрын
As a non Romani person, but always curious, I had no idea there were so many different subgroups of Romani people, this video is very educational and I am glad it found my way. I go to sleep with more knowledge and am very grateful of you for that ! Very well thought and greatly executed ! Thanks
@voidface8827
@voidface8827 7 ай бұрын
I went to Madrid for a week once to study at one of their flamenco conservatories. I don’t believe our teacher/professor was romani (she might have been!), but she made sure to tell us how important romani were in the creation of so many of these old spanish traditions. She was very thorough in her explanation, and I wish I could still remember all of it, but sadly it has been nearly 10 years. Essentially, the style of singing in flamenco started out as a mix of romani styles, middle-eastern styles, and whatever the local style was. The music itself is also created through this mix as well as the dance (though it might be tougher to see that as both have obviously evolved quite a bit) But it really is something I think about quite a bit. I’m not romani myself, but whether people like it or not, romani have always been here and they will continue to be here. Meaning they have helped shape so so so many different cultures. With that said, thank you for this video!
@indrajitgupta3280
@indrajitgupta3280 2 ай бұрын
So appropriate. Every time I see Flamenco, I think of the rhythmic patterns used in Kathak. How lovely if a Kathak dancer could be persuaded to dance to a Flamenco beat.
@Jon-w2g
@Jon-w2g 5 күн бұрын
It is not that the Gypsies created the Flamenco, they only kept the Gothic dance and music. It was lost was to the Spaniards because the civilization killed it. Gypsies are very traditional people. They learned the Flamenco from the Goths and kept it going. That is why Flamenco is done only in Spain.
@andresperedo1275
@andresperedo1275 3 күн бұрын
A lot of people in Spain, particularly in the South, have romani roots, so you cannot draw a line defining who is and who is not. In any case, culture is spread horizontally, so no one can really claim to own a culture. Culture is by definition open to anyone who shares it.
@Bildgesmythe
@Bildgesmythe 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Always great to learn subjects never covered anywhere else.
@aff77141
@aff77141 7 ай бұрын
Great information, but that aside the vest is fantastic-
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! It’s from Loly by Zita Moldovan
@sammy-mg9bl
@sammy-mg9bl 7 ай бұрын
As a Desi girl, romani culture is so beautiful and fascinating. thank you for this video!😌🩷
@HorseChild
@HorseChild 8 күн бұрын
I’m Desi too! I like learning about ‘dying’ cultures and languages so that I can be more aware of discrimination when I see it.
@BoredBookAddict
@BoredBookAddict 7 ай бұрын
I really love this vid. Really shows how widespread and diverse the Romani are. Not much sources I could find online and I am glad to be learning from an awesome guy like you. Greetings from the Philippines.
@kalishiva18
@kalishiva18 7 ай бұрын
Not much on our history here in the states. But Columbus did bring us here
@moonpiemoonpie
@moonpiemoonpie 6 ай бұрын
I’m just a humble African American- but I really enjoyed learning about the different subgroups! GREAT JOB. ❤️💙💚✨
@zacharybenson6195
@zacharybenson6195 7 ай бұрын
Yoooo, even as someone living in the U.S. I've waited to find a relatively accessible video *by someone who belongs to a Romani subgroup* explaining the different subgroups. This is *very* informative. Thank you! Now, I'd love to learn about which various Romani subgroups in Canada & the USA in a separate video because I've always wondered how many people from Romani subgroups live in my U.S. state.
@vgrhrhtjrhev4422
@vgrhrhtjrhev4422 7 ай бұрын
i just want to thank you so much for this video. i'm american romani (Czech Roma originally) from a family where we DO not talk about our heritage and it's been so hard to find any good information on who we are, who we were, etc from someone who is actually romani and speaking on roma culture and subcultures with respect and affection. i have the biggest smile on my face right now. thank you so so much for allowing me to feel connected w/ my roots thru this video.
@NavyGuero83
@NavyGuero83 7 ай бұрын
I love your channel. My great grandmother from Hungary told my uncle "we are gypsies." I apologize to for using this term, but to honor my grandmother, I use her term. I am learning so much about my family history because they were escaping the early 1900s. I have several nomadic peoples in my roots. I love to travel and have always loved Indian culture (for some reason), now I know. Also my grandfather (son of great-grandmother from Hungry), was a music major and played several instruments, like the Saxophone. He ended up starting a roofing business to make money though, which got passed down to my father/uncle and then me, but I left the roofing business. Oddly I am a musician also and a dancer. I personally embrace the word Gipsy or Gitano (because I also speak Spanish, (again I apologize to to other Roma who are against this word, Understandably)), I started identifying as Roma, but a lost one to history and discrimination. I am honoring my ancestors by wearing the flag as a badge of pride. I am also mixed with Indigenous American, Irish and Celt. Thank you so much for your videos. Much love!
@mickirios5036
@mickirios5036 7 ай бұрын
My family are Kalderash who left Romania and are now living in the USA. Thanks for breaking this all down! Ive always had a tough time explaining it to others when asked 😅
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Baxt hai sastimos! Yeah it’s very difficult explaining the different Romani subgroups and the unique things about each one to people when asked, I think that’s why most Roma just say Roma and that’s it lol
@mickirios5036
@mickirios5036 7 ай бұрын
@@florida.florian Very true. I got to the point over the years where I would just say to people: “You know how there’s different Native American tribes with different dialects and cultural practices? We’re kinda like that.” 😅 Thanks for all you do. 🙏
@melissapinol7279
@melissapinol7279 7 ай бұрын
My husband grew up in San Pablo, CA where there is a large Roma population and had very positive experiences with his Roma neighbors. As an Anthropology major, thanks so much!
@a.c.1839
@a.c.1839 7 ай бұрын
One detail that I especially appreciate about this video is being able to learn the correct pronunciation for all the names! Thank you so much for making this, it saddens me that so much of it was new information for me, but I'm also grateful that I live in a time where the internet allows me to hear from people like you.
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
I tried my best, I messed up a little on some of the Turkish names but hopefully I got most of them correct
@honeybeeart9382
@honeybeeart9382 7 ай бұрын
This is so comprehensive and informative and better than anything else I've found in an explanation about the complexity of all the wonderful Romani groups around the world! What a fabulous job and better than so many of the academic papers you find online that are usually written by an outsider focusing on a small group and applying their own lens to the information they share. This is just absolutely amazing. ♥
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! That was the goal so I really appreciate the comment
@emat731
@emat731 7 ай бұрын
Ai făcut o treabă minunată cu acest videoclip! Se vorbește mult prea puțin la noi în țară despre diversitatea romilor și despre frumusețea și contribuția culturală a subgrupurilor și mă bucur că am putut să învăț câte ceva din videoclipul tău. Mult spor pe viitor și zile cu soare! ☀
@asoullesssubstitutefortheh1793
@asoullesssubstitutefortheh1793 7 ай бұрын
I live in Poland, I am not a Roma, but where I live there are a lot of Roma people and traces of their culture. I find it very interesting and that's why I like watching your videos, I like learning about groups that live in the country, expanding knowledge can always help with acceptance and understanding, which unfortunately many Poles (and not only) lack. In addition, your films reveal stories that are not talked about, I appreciate it very much.
@savitrisingh8921
@savitrisingh8921 7 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you so much Florian, for enlightening the world about the Roma people.
@jonathanmichaeldavis4405
@jonathanmichaeldavis4405 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video! It’s beautiful to see the diversity of Roma people represented in your video. Since you asked for a roll call from different groups I’d like to raise my hand and tell a little about myself and who I come from. I am a descendant of the Canasteros (basket makers) of the Cale of Southern Spain, Portugal, and southern France. Who were rounded up in the late 17th and early 18th century and sent as domestic servants and slaves on the sugar cane plantations in the colonies. They then ended up fleeing into the interior parts of the Deep Southern US during the colonial period and mixing with various local Native American groups. Which is why I’m here today….It’s interesting to note that even in the clan systems of Mvskoke (Muskogee) peoples there is a designation for people of Spanish Roma maternal lineages ,este-spani, literally means Spanish people. But it’s generally used for people from all the Cale groups of Portugal, Spain, and Southern France not just Andalusian Spanish. Again thank you for the video!!! Looking forward to more long form content from you Florian!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️❤️❤️❤️
@Anna133199
@Anna133199 7 ай бұрын
I'm Dutch, and in a relationship with a Bulgarian. Because of that I notice sooooo much prejudice against Romani people. Bulgarian society seems completely drenched with anti-Roma sentiments. I went to KZbin to learn more and one of the first videos I came across is this one. Very interesting stuff.
@StoyanMitrev
@StoyanMitrev 7 ай бұрын
100% correct and it’s shameful and heartbreaking there is so much prejudice against Roma people in Bulgaria, and in Central and Eastern Europe as whole 😢😢😢
@juliawidmaier5334
@juliawidmaier5334 7 ай бұрын
Noticed that too from Polish folks. Really quite heartbreaking and infuriating.
@beasteurope7844
@beasteurope7844 7 ай бұрын
Bro ,they are crime-driven,anti-integration tribe.. they don't want to form part of the society :)
@beasteurope7844
@beasteurope7844 7 ай бұрын
I do know geepsies, and I have few friends,but they work,put an effort, send their kids to school etc, but that's not the case of the majority!👍👍
@ai-no3ib
@ai-no3ib 7 ай бұрын
Trust me, it’s justified! I am a romanian and they do themselves no favour with their behaviour! Btw, I’m in a relationship with a Roma man, he is different but most of them refuse to get an education, to work, etc! He dropped out of school early, it’s their culture, but he is an intelligent, hard working man and he wants to Better himself! Their culture doesn’t value education and hard work, but he is different!Educate yourself on the matter and Interact with them and you’ll see for yourself!
@carlobrayda2951
@carlobrayda2951 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for making your culture and history more accessible to outsiders. Laudable work.
@saarnilaaksonen6295
@saarnilaaksonen6295 7 ай бұрын
I'm from Finland, so most of what I have learned about Romani culture here is from the context of Finnish kaaleet. I was really surprised when I first learned that the cultural dress I had associated with the Roma as a whole was actually unique to this particular sub-group! Thank you for the video Florian, it made me appreciate the diversity of different Roma groups even more :-)
@alaskabarb8089
@alaskabarb8089 7 ай бұрын
I knew nothing about this complex group of people before your video. Would love to see more about each.
@Timppa8000
@Timppa8000 7 ай бұрын
One quarter Finnish kale here! I'm happy that you're connecting our people like this, and yes, I say our people even being only quarter and never experiencing the Roma culture first hand, simply because I'm just so proud of my roots. I just wanted to reach out to you and represent our country's unique branch of Romanis because I admire your work. Keep on spreading the awareness, you are doing good work brother!🙏🏻
@shoe_box5726
@shoe_box5726 Ай бұрын
I am very thankful for this video, as looking up anything related to Romani culture is very sparse, confusing, or straight up iffy, considering they use language inappropriate for educating the public about the culture. I am very grateful you dedicated your time to clear the air. Your video is immensely helpful.
@AbadonBIack
@AbadonBIack 7 ай бұрын
I love your fit dude! I'm just a random white guy, but I love learning about history/culture. Keep making dope vids!
@henrikahlgren8596
@henrikahlgren8596 7 ай бұрын
Latcho diives florian! Great content great to see fellow roma who stand up for our culture and history!! Because there is so much misinformation out there. Our history and culture needs to be told and handled by us and not by gadjes.
@963ag
@963ag 7 ай бұрын
This is a particularly interesting topic! Being of mixed heritage, mainly Hungarian, Slovak, and Romani, ( my last name is through marriage.) I have been doing some of my own research, ( My family lived through the Porjamos and I didn't learn much from them - the older generation was rather quiet about this.) But I do know of the Olah subgroup - are they a branch of the Kalderash? Are the Lovari a further subgroup of the Olah/Kalderash Roma? With surnames Lakatos, Farkas, Kolompar, very common. I remember many of the old songs from my mother, great aunt, and listen to them (I've found them on KZbin) and there is actually a song about the Olah Roma - the lyrics say they pitched their tents on the edge of a forest and a bird is singing in a tree above them.) Through the music, I am remembering words that I have almost forgotten entirely - I am 60 years old. Thank you Florian, for educating the public!
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Olah is the Hungarian pronounciation for Vlax, so it can be Lovara, Kalderash, Boyash or any other Vlax group. Some Vlax Roma just identify as Vlax/Olah too!
@FataDragonului
@FataDragonului Күн бұрын
Florian, mult respect pentru munca depusa pentru adunarea datelor si prezentarea frumoasa!
@brittlebricks10
@brittlebricks10 7 ай бұрын
This is an insane amount of info packed into one video!
@ElLenadorLA
@ElLenadorLA 7 ай бұрын
As someone who has spent years learning flamenco with the gitanos this was very interesting. Absolutely amazing people with a great culture and gift for the arts.
@Thoughtful-
@Thoughtful- 7 ай бұрын
Fascinating! A really good explanation of the Romani people, I've tried to research this myself but I've found it hard to get correct and concise information like this. Thank you and keep up the good work
@messanya
@messanya 7 ай бұрын
I'm a Turkish person living in Germany, and it makes me happy to see how connected Turkey is to Romani people! I definitely didn't know about these connections before watching the video. Sadly, it is still very common for turkish people to call romani people ç*ngene - I hope that changes soon. Love you guys!
@Mister69K
@Mister69K 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this very informative and documented video.
@InesMirandaJohansson
@InesMirandaJohansson 7 ай бұрын
I’m from Sweden and I don’t know that much about Romani people but this year my school put up a play about a Romani family in the Swedish suburbs. It got to play a roman guy who faced many problems and later died by taking an over dose in this play. And since then I have been very interested in the culture, the people! I have always seen Romani people from mainly Bulgaria and Romania, sitting outside supermarkets and not having a home here in Sweden. And I have never thought about them. Thank you for educating me with your videos!
@DrSoftman
@DrSoftman 3 ай бұрын
I am a Swedish Romani descendant myself. Or a Resande.
@nowheretogobuteverywhere1266
@nowheretogobuteverywhere1266 7 ай бұрын
Suuuuuuuper interesting. I'm Spanish and a loooooot of the words i use everyday come from Caló. It's a shame spain doesnt recognise it as an official language.
@kimboosan
@kimboosan 7 ай бұрын
This is such a great introduction to Romani peoples and their subgroups. Thank you for all your hard work!
@StoyanMitrev
@StoyanMitrev 7 ай бұрын
Good job, Florian! I love your channel. I’m not Romani (not that i know of) but i love the diversity and the colorful Romani cultures! And i love the fact that you’re bringing visibility and pride to the Romani communities, being so much marginalized everywhere! Keep up the good work!
@doubledutchclutch
@doubledutchclutch 7 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you! This was eye-opening. I didn't know there were so many Romani groups spread across the globe.
@munafruit
@munafruit 7 ай бұрын
im gona have to watch this like six times to take it all in because of how dense with information this is. nice one florian! i learned things ❤ (also this fit is 🔥)
@AngelaSmith-q4k
@AngelaSmith-q4k 7 ай бұрын
The amount of detail in this is amazing. Thank you for the time you took to make this.
@RoonMian
@RoonMian 7 ай бұрын
Pour one out for the German Travelling People. I don't know if they would be considered a Romani people, they have more similarities with the Irish Travellers, but I know that their own secret language had influences from the Sinti language, as well as Yiddish. The question is moot though as the entire people was eradicated during the Third Reich. Even many Germans today have no idea that this entire culture was a thing and was brutally murdered so I take every opportunity I can to remind people. Great video, mate. I had actually no idea the Romani people were this diverse. Here's to them living in prosperty and free from persecution. 🍻
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
No the Yenische are European travellers not Romani, I should have clarified that in the non-Roma section
@wodidos
@wodidos 7 ай бұрын
@@florida.florianjup Jenische are not related to the romani people, there are still quite a few jenische in switzerland and also parts of france (spelled Yéniche) My grandmother was jenische and told me some stories when I was a child. They we’re also repressed in switzerland along with sinti and roma well into the 20th century, kids taken away from those who were still traveling, sterilizations. Truly horrible stuff. Would be intersting to learn of historical examples of how non-romani travelers interacted with the romani peoples, as I’m sure there must have been contacts (and maybe conflicts?) Very well made and interesting video, thank you!
@happywithdrawal
@happywithdrawal 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I'm writing a Romani character and I wasn't sure where to start with all the different subgroups, so this clears up a whole lot! This whole channel helps so much with learning more about the Romani people ❤
@priyab5838
@priyab5838 7 ай бұрын
Wow, Florian! Just amazing! 👌 First of all, I want to give you a round of applause 👏 for making the best ever video describing about all different sub-groups of Romani people. Secondly, the set-up for this video is so impressive- silver button frame from KZbin, silver globe!( never saw that before), Romani flag, beautiful flowers & cloth underneath which I assume has been designed by the Romani Designer! (Sorry, I don't want to misspell her name). Your Romani outfit (designed by the same person) is outstanding! ❤ I really admire the tremendous knowledge you have about your community & how much efforts you had put to explain each every minute detail so clearly! Since summer break has started in primary schools, so I am going to give an extra homework to the kids to watch your video as part of their social studies subject. And last but not the least, I also recognized a lot of Romani words similar to Hindi words like Reech (bear), Manushya (human/man), kale (black), etc. 😊 Please keep doing the good work that you are doing for your community! Meri Shubhkaamnaayen! (my good wishes!) 🙏 👑
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the continued support! I’m glad you liked the video and my clothes/set up! I’m so glad my videos can be an educational resource for your students, baxt hai sastimos (luck and health)
@priyab5838
@priyab5838 7 ай бұрын
@@florida.florian really appreciate your message 🙏 ❤️
@mmps18
@mmps18 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Florian! You are such a kind person and excellent teacher.
@dijay760
@dijay760 7 ай бұрын
Heya Florian, just wanna say that your videos have been so informative ever since I stumbled upon your TikTok account and this channel. I was quite ignorant to the g slur and was very confused around its historical context, but thanks to you I feel like I'm more educated than my younger self would have been. Growing up in the UK, the g slur has been normalised throughout media and in conversations. I hope all of your social media platforms grow big and reach out to a larger audience!
@charlotteb9269
@charlotteb9269 7 күн бұрын
Thank you! How fascinating! Appreciate the hard work you placed into this video.
@amitzdullnicker2k
@amitzdullnicker2k 7 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! I always wanted to know more about the different Romani subgroups and this video cleared up a lot for me. ❤
@dontyouworryaboutme
@dontyouworryaboutme 3 күн бұрын
Since i was little ive had a deep fascination for Romani folk. It is incredibly difficult to find this information, so I'm very happy you made such an informative video. Thank you!
@krisfinley6706
@krisfinley6706 7 ай бұрын
Wow, I didn't know there are so many different subgroups in such a wide variety of areas! Very cool 😎 thank you Florian 😊
@thenaiam
@thenaiam 9 күн бұрын
Florian, thank you for sharing this. I had no idea there were this many subgroups of Romani people. This is fascinating!
@Justacat176
@Justacat176 7 ай бұрын
Thank you sm for showing us your culture it’s so beautiful I absolutely love learning about different cultures and getting inspiration for my characters in a respectful way of course:)
@Itsrainingcatsyall
@Itsrainingcatsyall 6 ай бұрын
This was fantastic!! You’re the best source on the internet and I hope film and tv studios hire you to consult on these long misunderstood cultures. Looking forward to the next video 🫶🏼
@sophieedwards6070
@sophieedwards6070 4 ай бұрын
I’m Romanichal and this video has been an amazing watch. Thank you so much for putting this education out there.
@KC-gy5xw
@KC-gy5xw 7 ай бұрын
I love that you break the different groups down so much. I will never look at Romani people as just one group again, thank you. My great niece and nephew have Polish Romani grandmother, it makes me see things in a different light. Thank you again!
@amazinggrace5692
@amazinggrace5692 7 ай бұрын
So much work to put this together. Very well done!
@Broomcloset42
@Broomcloset42 7 ай бұрын
Your attention to detail in your editing is amazing. This was super informative and I really enjoyed it!
@delinquentinparadise
@delinquentinparadise 5 ай бұрын
Beautifully done. My family name is Moore and we settled in Yorkshire in the early 1800’s. We were dealers in Metals and part of the family have a Large yard there to this day. My great grandfather left Yorkshire in around 1830 and settled in a Kenna in the Chelsea area where my Grandfather was born in 1876. He carried on in scrap metal for some years before obtaining a licence for a Hansom Cab before moving to Harrow in around 1910 and starting the first motorised Taxi service from Harrow on the Hill Station. His wile Jessie ran a second hand shop for many decades at the foot of the Wealdstone railway bridge. I have spent most of my life in Australasia but although most of my Romanypen is now gone I am proud to still feel my families blood in my veins.
@juliawidmaier5334
@juliawidmaier5334 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I learned so much from you, for example I did not know there were Roma groups in South America but it makes so much sense that there would be.
@LynnHermione
@LynnHermione 7 күн бұрын
Latin American here and yup, we have a very big Cale population
@Ethereum1789
@Ethereum1789 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work florian.
@KahoriFutunaka
@KahoriFutunaka 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this video! In Germany, people usually talk about "Sinti and Roma", very rarely seperating the two groups, and pretty much never mentioning others. Therefore whenever I came across other group names I was confused and never quite understood if they meant Sinti and / or Roma, maybe just using another word because of roots in another language. Now I have your video for reference! Also, I kind of "liked" (not sure if this is the right word) all the groups named after their profession. It reminded me of the origin of many European surnames.
@potatolord8677
@potatolord8677 7 ай бұрын
This was cool as hell! I appreciate the work you do to inform us about various Romani groups and figures all over the world. I can't imagine how long this must have taken to make! Also, editing is great - nice, clear, concise, and the text is easy to read while not distracting from what you're saying. You deserve that silver playbutton 🎉
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! The editing definitely took a lot of work so I’m glad you like it!
@JeanOlaf
@JeanOlaf 7 ай бұрын
It's so awe inspiring to see the diversity and scope of the Roma people. It's also very inspiring to watch you share all of this knowledge with us, thank you so much
@Lululila67
@Lululila67 7 ай бұрын
I have distance spanish Cale on my mothers side. Thank you for clearing up the difference between Romani and irish travelers. My heart aches every time I hear about all who were killed.
@theokogod6711
@theokogod6711 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, Florian! I really appreciate it. It puts a lot of much-needed context on my very limited exposure to these different groups through my travels and (frankly bad) media depictions.
@ricardofilipematos4720
@ricardofilipematos4720 7 ай бұрын
Florian, first time on your yt. I'm not roma (cigano here in Portugal) but I loved this video and learn all the different ethnic groups around the world. Dude, if you make like a chart pointing all this info, with the names, history, costumes, languages and places, I'll buy it! Btw, the most famous portuguese cigano is the football player Ricardo Quaresma, a magician with the ball. Thanks for the great video! :D
@januszbogumil
@januszbogumil 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this presentation! I'm amazed at the diversity of Romani peoples.
@Xpian
@Xpian 7 ай бұрын
Another well-written, well-presented video! A privilege to have discovered your channel a while ago now... I can hardly wait for your next! Cheers!
@florida.florian
@florida.florian 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, Cheers!
@Amy-cx7tg
@Amy-cx7tg Ай бұрын
It's so amazing that despite all of the oppression, the Roma people live on and exist as so many groups in so many places. I'm working my way through your videos, and I'm learning so much. There's still so much I want to know!!!
@kristinaglaze4856
@kristinaglaze4856 7 ай бұрын
Omg thank you so much love learning from you amazing
@rjmckenzie4706
@rjmckenzie4706 7 ай бұрын
This video cleared many things for me. Ive been wanting to know more about the subgroups, because i know you metioned them on your tiktok. It makes my reaserch on them so easier. Thanks Florian.
@rowdysgirlalways
@rowdysgirlalways 7 ай бұрын
I knew the Romani had an ancient, deep and rich culture, but I wasn't aware of how widespread your people are. Thank you for enlightening my ignorance.
@amethystamaris
@amethystamaris 7 ай бұрын
Omg perfect I was just looking for a reliable source to learn more about the Romani, thank you so much for your wonderful vid & for explaining about your people
@johneli495
@johneli495 7 ай бұрын
Manush means human in India. What tribe are you? Human!
@sardarcantu7960
@sardarcantu7960 7 ай бұрын
same thing in Rromani hah (and I think it's from Sanskrit manushya or something like that) so yeah
@cllaudiusd521
@cllaudiusd521 7 ай бұрын
Same, Roma means human, person. Is a bulshit. This is because the term "Roma" for gypsies was imposed politically, without connection with reality, with the old names .
@ZahraZahra-fx9qb
@ZahraZahra-fx9qb 7 ай бұрын
Yeah in gipsy language it's the same. We actually make fun of them because when they as you "manush san".. are you human? To us it sounds funny but what they actually ask you is if you're gipsy.
@sardarcantu7960
@sardarcantu7960 7 ай бұрын
funny thing in Romanian there's a word 'Mănușă' (in Romanian it means glove)which sounds like Manush and I remember my grandma told me a person constantly asked why other Roma called her glove 😅
@ZahraZahra-fx9qb
@ZahraZahra-fx9qb 7 ай бұрын
@@sardarcantu7960 but manush would more be used for male term. In the dialect used in Romania usually we call the female foreigners either raklori or gori.
@j_fenrir
@j_fenrir 7 ай бұрын
This video educated me so much and I'm so glad it was randomly recommeded to me! Thank you for all your insight into the romani people
@PurpleSheep-xg4up
@PurpleSheep-xg4up 7 ай бұрын
Wonderful video as always, Florian. Your content has taught me more about Romani history and culture than I'd ever heard hinted at before -- even in history textbooks about, ostensibly, "the whole world." Also . . . I'm a bit flabbergasted by the casual reveal that *bear training* was a trade on the level of silver- and copper-smithing. Sure, everyone had cauldrons that needed fixing, but BEARS?! What were they doing with all the bears???
@kerithsunshine9584
@kerithsunshine9584 7 ай бұрын
What a great video! I met Askali people in Kosova and actually meeting people there was the first time I really learned about the different subgroups. One of the best experiences of my life was getting to know people in their communities.
@thesatelliteslost
@thesatelliteslost 7 ай бұрын
TY for talking about the Lovari. I was waiting for this.
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 7 күн бұрын
I had no idea Flamenco was Romani, and now it makes so much sense. Thank you!
@ongoingawakening4257
@ongoingawakening4257 Ай бұрын
Such a wonderful exploration. Thank you for taking us all around the world with the Romani. I'm learning so much. You're a brilliant and fascinating teacher.
@munensuno8792
@munensuno8792 7 ай бұрын
Brazilian Kalon here! Much love, prale! 💙❤️💚
@cassandrar5127
@cassandrar5127 7 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this educational video on the anthropology breakdown of different romani groups. It's something that isn't talked about as often as it should. But what an amazing legacy, to be spread so far all over the globe.
@cathygarcia1230
@cathygarcia1230 7 ай бұрын
My mother is Spoitori from Ankara Turkey. I wasn't aware that Spoitori people went to Romania. Sadly in Turkey there are only a few fluent speakers left in my mother's family and community.
@MitsukoFentress
@MitsukoFentress Ай бұрын
I was so excited to see this video because I can barely find any info about my people (Bohemian Romani) I have never seen the word Lalleri and I was so overjoyed to learn it from you. I always wondered what the name of our group was. I knew that my people didn't make it out of ww2 (my ancestors fled right before ww2) but to hear confirmation that my peoples language is extinct is so painful. I wish I could at least hear it. Thank you for teaching me.
@JessicaMDK
@JessicaMDK 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this information. I appreciate the time you took to research and put this together.
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