All this work... for what?? - Upgrading the Video Render Server

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[@LinusTechTips]

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[@musculamoose]

Love your vids

[@deadlock2579]

Hi

[@Voluse]

Overclocked threadripper 3 build with custom water loop video when?

[@damaster692]

*If you fix the 5700xt encoding quality the guy epox guy was able to get the fastest encoding* while being able to stream multiple 8k streams at once with pcie4.

[@wizpig64]

See you guys in 3 months for the 3950X version of this video where Linus *again* pulls a production server offline before even running tests

[@beaker-yt]

"Those aren't that reliable drives..." - 10 years old - running in this server 24/7 for years - probably up to 100 Gig daily writing workload I'd call that pretty reliable...

[@Megalomaniakaal]

They have been reliable, but they also have age on them now, from real use. Each write they have gone through at this point is a point of risk. Will it keep running without issues? Inevitably at some point the answer is going to end up being no.

[@dscarmo]

From the year they were bought yes, but from this point in time forward is what he means i think

[@mlindholm]

100GB daily writing? They'd be nuts to actually write the files to local drives, when they're using a 10Gb network to their storage server.

[@sebastianheese803]

Hve 2 Drrives with sandforce chipsets as well. They wirk fine, like on the first day... fo rmost of the time. They dropped MBR or Partition table on random. i do not use them for anything but steam games. if i have to reformat or cure them back to life, i don't give a F if it's just to reload steam games. but when i used them as systemdrives/data/work drives, it drove me mad when i randomly lost all data on them.( yeah i have backup on important data, but still annoying)

[@TylertheGeek28]

It's an OS drive, nowhere near 100Gig of read/write each day

[@Matt-ux1lv]

"Only upgrading the motherboard, CPU, memory, oh and maybe the GPU" - Linus 2019

[@Legion849]

Best comment of the year

[@gramps2225]

we all know RGB is the meat of the build

[@satakrionkryptomortis]

@@gramps2225could be responseable for that below 9 min mark. yeah.

[@giog8527]

Mahir Shahriar just a weak RTX 2080 Ti nothing special

[@rtz5668]

'yeah imma just throw a really expensive rtx 2080ti in nothing special'

[@C0D3__BR3AK3R__Studios]

Yes, the video was created before Ryzen 3000 launch, but the more comments about AMD, the better. Wait for the 3950X; and also get ASRock's X570 Aqua Mobo, it has Thunderbolt 3, and an AIO monoblock!

[@azarilh2355]

Oh, that explains everything.

[@nicholashaines4136]

Ryzen up

[@TheAussieNinja84]

@@jcfawerd the Aqua is a water cooled board, similar to the gigabyte board Linus used.

[@stonecat676]

@@jcfawerd yeah, weird how they went with a little fan for the mobo instead of an aio mono-block...like the gigabyte z390 aorus extreme

[@YttriumtYcLief]

@@jcfawerd They don't need X570. A good quality X470 board wouldn't have a fan but could still power a 3950X. Emphasis on "good quality".

[@TheRealUncleScar]

"we're only replacing [every major component]"

[@maxxlr8tion578]

Quick maths: “205w(lol)” cpu ~250w gpu + pump, many fans, drives and mobo 500w power supply.... “stability and reliability are the main focus here” Linus pls, your killing me here. XD

[@igoresque]

I guess that GPU was never meant to be heavy loaded anyway, and the PSU is probably some top tier efficiency.

[@Olav_Hansen]

Those server style power supplies are made for 24/7 use up to that 500w. The 500-550w that this system will pull full power for 10 minutes won't really be as bad for the system as you might suspect.

[@martin913913]

lol. that remembers my old amd 1090t i kept running for two years permaclocked at 5.4gigs and two gtx690 with somewhat crazy triple loop interchanged peltier liquid cooling. 1400w for mainboard and around 2kw for those peltiers.... only things unstable were my bank account after electricity bill and ambient temperature

[@KingOfKYA]

To be fair most server supplies are underrated, so they meet there wattage and still can 5-10years later.

[@theyhatekath]

Maybe its 2x500w power supplies

[@SergenteHartman2356]

“You don’t need a gaming GPU” *camera pans away* “Ah, yes I grabbed this RTX 2080 Ti to see if there is any difference”

[@dan6erbond]

Let's just quickly forget Quadros and Radeon Pro exist...

[@Plus_Escapee]

Using a 2080ti for gaming is just squander. Game on the side, you jobless children.

[@yes____]

@@Plus_Escapee what makes you think that the RTX 2080 is not a gaming card?

[@CaspianYuichiro]

Did u never noticed, he never put it in

[@dominikbeitat4450]

@@Plus_Escapee And how does one afford a 2080ti without having a job or three, huh? Your logic is flawed.

[@TechDove]

Linus is dropping videos left and right like they're graphics cards.

[@omegaPhix]

Xeons*

[@node9221]

Test Bench's*

[@KermenTheFrog]

$10,000 computer

[@Skater6453]

He has been working overtime putting all those dents in the 5700 xt’s

[@Alex-gp5xl]

*his children

[@stephenweber1251]

"I think the 500 watt PSU might be holding it back" *surprised Pickachu*

[@chhenghout7446]

X/x X/xua

[@F_Du_Sea]

@@chhenghout7446 ?

[@tridiots3681]

@@F_Du_Sea his pronouns maybe

[@AD-dc6qd]

Linus: Reliability is key Also Linus: Those are 10 year old drives in RAID 1...reliability doesn't matter

[@ShadowRubberDuck]

And Dha -2019

[@LEDtherebelight]

Well, it's raid 1, not 0. So it's at least redundant.

[@juanbrits3002]

Raid is not a replacement for a backup

[@ISpieleUndMehrDE]

@@LEDtherebelight As long as those aren't the same drives. If they are, they are likely to fail arround the same time.

[@TheRealDrae]

​@@juanbrits3002 Wanna bet? In raid 1, if you have ten drives, nine can kick the bucket and it'll still work. It's *literally* a replacement for a backup.

[@jpete1471]

Linus: Oh I casually just grabbed this 2080ti Me: $5 game that’s too much

[@williamblake7386]

where do you live?

[@mrfluffytailthethird]

I’m in the same boat 😞

[@UnluckyBro-]

Ben Melluish Seems like it 🤔

[@eduardoBR1991]

Me: $5 with $5 coupon or no deal.

[@jakey4931]

@@BenMelluish you win all the things. Smh

[@harbirsingh7266]

3:19 "There are transfer speed limits on their side." When you are LTT you are never the bottleneck.

[@batsonelectronics]

I think more their ISP speeds. They get speeds I can't even buy in South Carolina. 150 down and 50 up is the fastest I could get if I had the money. Fiber will here soon I hope.

[@FlipnKraut]

batsonelec C yea... they basically have a direct connection to one of the hubs in Canada. They have a 10 gigabit internet connection.

[@harbirsingh7266]

@@batsonelectronics Damn that's low speed. I expected more from South Carolina. Isn't there fibre available there?

[@batsonelectronics]

@@harbirsingh7266 Yes , but not in the area I live. I live in a 50K city and fiber is available but not in the big Housing area I live. They just ran new fiber thru the neighborhood but it isn't offered yet. I have had 7mb for many years and even got 18mb on one of ATT faster connections. I went to cable as cable is best where I am now and 150mb/s is the fastest they offer. I don't get that speed but 60mb is more than enough and the cost is 1/4 or less than the 150mb speed. 2 miles down the road from my 7mb speed it is barely ISDN speed at 384kb/s max. And they pay the same I did for 7mb or 18mb.

[@sanghamitrapradhan5820]

@@batsonelectronics thats so weird for me. In Delhi, most areas are pretty crowded but we have finer almost everywhere and internet is pretty cheap on average. I get 50 down for like 7 dollars a month

[@KaitlynFedrick]

Linus: *removes 2 cores* *removes half the memory channels* *removes half the memory* > Performance doesn't improve Linus: *Shocked Pikachu face*

[@xnoreq]

Well the "half the memory" doesn't really matter for this workload but you are absolutely right. Linus again was absolutely clueless in this video. They could have produced useful data by doing comparisons with different configurations (CPU/RAM/GPU) in test rigs. Instead we saw a clown ripping out a server and doing random hardware changes while spilling water on it.

[@TheMarc477]

Half the memorystick does matter in this workload

[@MoswenMedia]

@@xnoreq he just went from quad *channel* memory, to dual channel, this WILL decrease performance without a doubt.

[@xnoreq]

@@MoswenMedia "half the memory" refers to capacity, not the channels, which the OP pointed out explicitly

[@VioletGiraffe]

​@@xnoreq, I get your point in that it could have done way better, but calling Linus a clown is taking it too far. Perhaps he just hasn't given it much thought or didn't do enough research beforehand.

[@deveshkumarsingh7941]

Linus- Blows 1,00,000$ on red cameras Blows another shitload of money on tools for Alex But can't afford a funnel

[@BotchedGod]

No, but he can afford the "ain't care" attitude.

[@Allan11]

I'm sorry but its 100,000

[@jubuttib]

@@Allan11 His name looks Indian, so maybe he's writing it down as a "lakh"? Lakh is equal to 100 thousand, but is written as 1,00,000, and crore is equal to 10 million, but written as 1,00,00,000.

[@kumaryashy2k]

@@jubuttibyou are right.

[@thehumangerm]

They get free or lower cost hardware most of the time. What it would cost you is not remotely what it would cost them.

[@gustavoortega2895]

I can imagine all the editors saying between themselves: "god dammit Linus, the export is just gonna take 4 minutes, we use those minutes for actual breaks..."

[@dennispremoli7950]

The whole point of a separate rendering server negates the very existence of breaks.

[@bradenfitzpatrick8352]

10:20 you can promote it all you want. If it doesn't come prepackaged with water I'm not going to buy it

[@polychoron]

I'd be more likely to buy it full of ethanol.

[@helplmchoking]

I'll only buy if prefilled with bath water

[@OpticCookies01]

@@helplmchoking yes, only gamer girl bath water

[@michealwilliams472]

@@OpticCookies01 No, Linus' bath water.

[@kaideumers6102]

Micheal Williams same thing really

[@damianbailey6484]

hey I really appreciate the fact that you shoot a video where you totally expected one thing got totally different results and yet you left it in anyway. It's really good to see that someone with your experience still has to re-evaluate and come up with new solutions to problems. Much appreciated great stuff as always

[@w1p30ut3r]

"Intels entire product line is basic obsolete at this point." Anthony 2019

[@uncannysnake]

Epyc is still not out though

[@nevcairiel]

While the AMD lineup is impressive, if you have a high-end Intel CPU already, there is also really no point in replacing it, unless your work load is strongly prefering MT instead of ST (ie creativity instead of gaming).

[@uncannysnake]

@@nevcairiel That was pretty much the case even for FX. Keep in mind people replace like every 4-5 years, including even Linus.

[@Xathos]

He's talking about price-to-performance in regard to the mainstream line of CPUs, you fucking fanboy pleb. That was the scope of the review. Regarding AMD, I am still unsure when AM5 rolls out. Not sure if it's 2020, or 2021. Besides, my threshold is also 4.5 on the R5 chips, too. Probably waiting for Zen 3 for both thresholds.

[@AlfaPro1337]

If one knows how to use low core count (4-8) CPU+iGPU+dGPU, and the workload renders faster than high core (10-32) count CPU+GPU, what's the point of high core count CPU?

[@RomansFiveDotEight]

Linus: "I used a metal reservoir because this can NOT leak" Linus, moments later: "I'm not gonna drain this first"

[@rostyloco1]

proceeds to leak water everywhere

[@RomansFiveDotEight]

Aaron Huss Parkour No, because I typed it. Also... duh. It was sarcasm. Also... welcome to the internets.

[@RomansFiveDotEight]

Aaron Huss Parkour For your own edification... You can drain from the reservoir, and empty the system. So that water doesn’t drip or leak out over sensitive components when you disconnect from the water block. In all honesty, Linus has been doing this stuff for years. He’s fine. He doesn’t usually break things with water (he usually just drops it). But that’s the context behind him mentioning that he wasn’t going to drain the loop first. Because normally, one would drain it further down the loop where to prevent spilling water over sensitive components.

[@J624]

It must never leak while the server is on, but as he mentioned there is basically no danger of damage due to water if there is no electricity flowing.

[@eduardoavila646]

@@RomansFiveDotEight Waaaait, there is more than 1 internet? Godamn, i live under a rock

[@MitgliedT5]

99% of the comments: Why not Ryzen 3 (zen2) 99% of the answers to that comments: Video was produced before ryzen 3 Launch

[@everythingfeline7367]

99% of secondary responses: They should have waited

[@MitgliedT5]

@@everythingfeline7367 anybody who waits for the best cpu never gonna buy one 😁

[@everythingfeline7367]

@@MitgliedT5 yes, but there's a difference between waiting

[@parsastrife6629]

1% of the comments talking about the other 99% of the comments

[@pizzalover86]

Did you know that the rewiers has acess on the products before they be launched to the market?

[@itallomagalhaes6621]

"Well I want to render a video" Linus: "It's all good we can shut down"

[@BigBoyLies]

>running million dollar tech review company, do watercooling project on regular basis >doesnt have a funnel at hand yep... sounds like LTT alright

[@ShroudedWolf51]

That's what every camera set needs, a fucking funnel.

[@BigBoyLies]

@@ShroudedWolf51 their filming set and their workshop are literally a few feets away.

[@HorochovPL]

Yeah, RGB RAM in fully closed server blade case! +10 to stability.

[@JeffBarberDigideus]

10:30 - USE A FUNNEL!!!!! Stay tuned for the "Quad EPYC/Threadripper based encoding server with dual 2080 ti's, dual 2000watt PSUs, 256GB of RAM and fairy lights all over the frigging place.... and to cool it we are going to submerge it in liquid nitrogen... then drop it on the floor!"

[@DonowankaHussarya]

I almost died watching this moment

[@Royameadow]

Linus and company wouldn't be that cheap: If they happen to have either a Dual Titan RTX (via NVLink), Tesla T4, or Dual Quadro RTX 8000 (via NVLink) that they can use for the project, then I know for a fact that they'll likely resort to that instead; a Dual Socket Xeon Platinum 9282 or Eight Socket Xeon Platinum 8280L with 036 TB of DDR IV ECC RAM would be straight up overkill but probably get the job done just as well, though the latter concept would probably be more suitable for "032 Gamers/Workstations, Eight CPUs", that would be a very expensive setup (especially with Quadro RTX 8000s) but this rig will last for decades, especially if it were only one person making material with it.

[@jonasfrkjr6602]

Makes video that Amd is faster than Intel 3 days after: upgrading render server to Intel cpu

[@GTFour]

Almost like they got free hardware ;)

[@nicholasfitzsimons99]

if you heard his tease at the end "Let this system rip." I could be wrong but that sounds like a hint. Plus this is entirely possible that this video was shot more than 2 weeks ago remember the daily releases have a full week delay from when they go live on floatplane.

[@RealGalaxyGamers]

Jonas Frøkjær i like intel amd is kinda low quality

[@unpaintedcanvas]

@@RealGalaxyGamers That _used_ to be true with AMD's Bulldozer and FX series of chips, but third generation Ryzen is seriously hammering Intel (with them being stuck on 14 nm for desktop and whatnot), creaming them in multithreaded stuff and nearly matching them in more single-threaded stuff.

[@DrSmugface]

@@RealGalaxyGamers go back to 2015 ...but in 2019 and 2020 intel gets their ass handed by AMD

[@Irixion]

“I think I bent this drive” - Linus 2019 And this is why having Linus in a video makes it better.

[@panickyk2300]

Thanks Linus for making the sponsoring part exactly 10 seconds, now my hand automatically double taps as soon as my ears hear "speaking of".

[@justair44]

Which is why he incorporated the water bottle and Royal memory into the video.. sneaky lil bastard!

[@humvee2800]

@Carl Sinclair how do you think he affords his 30 person staff and office space without paid sponsors?

[@neptune226]

@@humvee2800 and his overkill hardware

[@J624]

It sounds like you watch on mobile, but a handy tip for watching on a computer is that if the video or video page has focus, the arrow keys skip 5 seconds while the J and L keys skip 10 seconds. (K will pause the video)

[@panickyk2300]

@@J624 Thanks, I already knew that but that's very humble of you.

[@DAVISION-YT]

Don't use the same OS Installation for comparison. Adobe doesn't like changing Boards/CPUs. I got really bad results when I tried to just swap hardware without a fresh OS install. Even the iGPU wasn't used at all after swapping hardware. After a fresh install this works fine after all.

[@zwz.zdenek]

If that's the only way, its massive BS. Surely there's a way to just re-detect it.

[@DAVISION-YT]

@@zwz.zdenek why should they take care about someone switching hardware without a clean new installation?

[@craigasketch]

They should be able to just uninstall adobe and reinstall. Esp the the adobe stuff in the appdata folder.

[@kilrahvp]

@@zwz.zdenek Adobe totally does stupid stuff like detecting config on install and never updating it again.

[@DAVISION-YT]

@@kilrahvp you can't just uninstall Adobe and are good to go. As far as I know you really need to install Windows again to make it work. I don't know why but it is like it is.

[@matthartley2471]

"Today's video is about using the right tool for the job" Proceeds to prove that every tool is about as good at said job.

[@marki9511]

Ok so Linus screws up alot of things but can we just admire that smooth ass screw driver flip 3:50

[@chow_3699]

also loved how he realised he didnt need it about two seconds later

[@JTCavey]

I was looking to see if anyone else caught that

[@beaverman285]

He does it so much, its just 2nd nature to him

[@Ducksnuget]

He has spent more time with that screw driver than his children.

[@World_Theory]

You need a Linus Tech Tips brand funnel, to go with the water bottle.

[@fajaradi1223]

Production start as soon as Intel 10nm litography processor available on the market.

[@ИльяВитцев]

he said that the bottle isn't intended to fill water blocks

[@justSTUMBLEDupon]

World Theory I'd buy that for a dollar

[@Klaevin]

"anthony: "intel processors are obsolete, now" linus: "lemme upgrade our render server with another intel processor"

[@GeorgePerakis]

This video was prolly made ages ago.

[@robertt9342]

Intel provides them with CPUs, so why wouldn't you use them?

[@arencorparencorp2189]

linus:lemme upgrade it with this cpu we got for free and its just laying arround

[@hyeri2429]

Klaevin this was a few months back

[@eduardoavila646]

Well, its linus, not like he will swap that server about 5 times in the next week

[@AdamX1124]

"still takes a long time upload to youtube, because their are transfer speed limits on their side" ~ Linus 2019 When your internet is so fast, youtube is the bottleneck

[@Goingtomarsland]

😅

[@THB192]

They are canadian...

[@Goingtomarsland]

@@THB192 so ?

[@THB192]

@@Goingtomarsland US Internet is really bad.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

@@THB192 you can get the same internet they have here in the US... It's just business fiber...

[@htxtech2693]

They buy servers to create videos about their servers. Entertaining but mind boggling.

[@markrtoffeeman]

Self replicating servers.

[@TheRealBleach]

Yeah

[@kpmccain293]

@@Steel0079 skillshare should sponsor my life😂

[@conduit64]

If you're a tech channel why wouldn't you turn upgrading a server into a video? Its something you needed to do anyways and now you get content you can make money off of out of it. Seems like a no brainer to me.

[@joeshonk9715]

No, they buy workstations and try to turn them into servers.

[@slange420]

The right hardware for the job is, of course, the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X CPU.

[@IschChef]

in that case the 3950X might offer better performance in two months.

[@poptartmcjelly7054]

@@IschChef In that case it would be a drop-in replacement.

[@syth-1]

Ezgera if software utilises those cores or it's a much higher binned chip and can reach decent clocks, otherwise I rlly don't see it being a better chip for Linus' specific scenario,

[@hamzaHrv]

@@syth-1 outperforms the 9900k in adobe premier by 25% .

[@1_ElFox]

Have you heard of my friend called threadripper?

[@rondelapena6024]

Linus: If you're gonna do real work on your computer, go with AMD Also Linus: Another Intel cpu please

[@zungaloca]

nvidia tech tips i mean intel linus tips, whatever gives me more money

[@johnrubensaragi4125]

@@zungaloca so true

[@utkarsh1874]

waste of knowledge he needs the sweet money of sponsorship

[@Ricooo1308]

Well yes and no. He strongly recommends AMD's products, but he has also made clear that AMD is still not the king of frequency, and that for the workload here that is what they need. So one way or the other, if you have the money or chips laying around, then it would be a stupid idea not to use them. I think a few WAN shows ago he spoke about the topic in question as well. And if I remember correctly, it was something like "AMD is good value and great chips on the market right now, but a person who is not money bound, and has the task for the better chip, would still go for the more expensive, less bang-for-buck chip". No direct quote, but it was something like that, regarding his personal rig upgrade I believe.

[@verygoodbrother]

@@Ricooo1308 makes no sense. Those recommendations are based on varied use case unlike the task in the above video where it is very specific. It makes so much sense to see if more cores improves efficiency and then compare both brands. That's the common sense way especially since they have the cash to do such an experiment

[@NEXCUSX]

man I was screaming "funnel" when he was refilling that reservoir lol

[@iladelproductions8820]

I had a small panic attack just watching that lol...

[@CJonestheSteam72]

Why not Threadripper or Ryzen 3? How does that compare to these intels?

[@cooldude7050]

I was thinking the same thing, why intel

[@MitgliedT5]

Threadripper has not that high frequency and not that IPC of the coffee lake i9 or the skylake x refresh i9 9990xe, and ryzen 3 (zen2) was released after he video was shot and produced and Linus goes with stuff he knows best, he made a point when he explains why his editors used x79 platforms in the days of x99... because x79 was a more stable platform then x99

[@APUGuru]

The video was more than likely made before the Zen 2 embargo lifted so they could only do this with intel. We'll probably get a revisit with Zen 2.

[@joenodden]

Lol Ryzen 3 chips suck. I think you mean Ryzen 3000.

[@madscientist057]

Cause it is AMD, when is he gonna use the latest Cyrix is what I'm asking

[@NicoMotions]

"The only way to get this chip is by going to Intel's .. secret auction! *drops it*

[@ShroudedWolf51]

What an original joke. We've totally never, ever heard of this one before.

[@NicoMotions]

@@ShroudedWolf51 ikr

[@NicoMotions]

@@p3rpNZ Thanks man haha ^^ But I already saw that joke I just wanted to do it again with that new phrase from Linus ^^'

[@Ripstikerpro]

"It takes a lot of time to upload, because there are transfer speed limits on their side" Biggest flex of 2019 - Linus Linusmediagroup

[@startide]

To be fair : google can handle it, they just chose not too because that would be too expensive when multiplied by the amount of people that upload to youtube.

[@ShroudedWolf51]

How so? Platforms with many users will almost always have a per-user limitation that will typically be under a typical connection that the average user will have.

[@zwz.zdenek]

It's a misleading flex though. Most fiber home connections can max KZbin.

[@RadethProductions]

Whoa dude...it was like you just put those parts in there 4 mins ago....I just came from the video where you installed that upgrade you are upgrading. What a cool trip that was!

[@bobratliff4402]

With all the stuff that you have lying around at LTT why aren't you building an actual render farm?

[@rob_dug]

Petition for Linus to change the "small" sized clothes on the LTT store to "Linus" sized

[@bjshifflett5408]

The sizes need to be LTT team member names oh please please please.

[@LoggyWD]

XXXXXL to the other guy's name.

[@diederikeding6544]

Wouw! 1000+ doller and 2 days for ONE whole minute faster upload times!!!

[@bone9jdjkaye]

@Dat Boii its about 2K for the 9990xe. still bloody expensive.

[@WESKERsgm]

Sponsored hardware so zero dollar spent and two days for new video what makes them money... AND one minute faster upload times)

[@JoshMiller3]

This. This is why I originally subscribed here. These are the videos that I enjoy the most. Not the products, not the consumer builds. The bigger than you should dare to think ideas, the server racks that need overclocking, the petabyte storages, love this stuff. Please more.

[@MichaelBylehn]

One day we'll see an AMD rig at LTT. jk.

[@jedidethfreak]

They did do an AMD sponsored build, with an FX proc and an RX460, showing off 4K gaming in League of Legends...

[@ShroudedWolf51]

And, one day, you'll learn just how much time such projects and video production takes up. How were they supposed to have their hands on Zen 2 gear a month or more prior to the launch date?

[@Elusivehawk]

@@ShroudedWolf51 Smaller channels can pump out comparable if not better content much quicker. The content LTT makes is a bit prettier, but it doesn't provide half the information that other channels provide. LTT has become too big to make good content, and they must suffice with easy pickings: Mediocre content that's watered down and appeals to the masses.

[@telepathicdragon]

He's just waiting for his Intel contract to finish, don't worry about it

[@ChuuniKaede]

his employee lan center uses ryzen-based rigs.

[@testinghardware5656]

9:46 Linus: Have sexiest ram on planet Also Linus: i will put it in server rack where nobody can see it Good job 👏

[@captainpunch2671]

Testing Hardware ik wtf was the point

[@ihave11consoles9]

Testing Hardware, that is trident z rgb ram

[@RazorSkinned86]

Also, if you remember previous videos... Linus: we have learned multiple times in the past that it is a mistake to use gaming/consumer hardware for servers. Linus: this isn't a sponsored video from Intel, we are now suggesting you buy Intel 8 core consumer CPUs and gaming motherboards for server workloads.

[@derekflow]

I would immediately yank that out of there, kind of a waste

[@bjshifflett5408]

It's the Canadian way ~

[@SuperTom0111]

LTT: AMD's 16 Core processor is wrecking Intel in every single workload Also LTT: 8 Cores is the best

[@Damicske]

Depends on the workload ;) don't forget this is shot a in June (I think)

[@WeirdSeagul]

@@TheB2100 the 12 core is more power efficient

[@MitgliedT5]

the Video was produced before the amd launch^^

[@sptlght9548]

@@TheB2100 Ryzen 3000 series is almost 40% more efficient per watt

[@g0dm4st3r]

@@TheB2100 205W CPU is more efficient than a 105W CPU? X for doubt.

[@hershycows]

These are my favorite vids, where you are upgrading/building something and it doesn't go according to plan and we get to see you problem solve it. Although I'm sure you guys like it better when it goes smoothly haha

[@tog3ki]

I guess the server is not ryzing up and will stay on the bottom rack :D

[@igloo2962]

@@TheRealNeoFrancois Fuck off.

[@cortex6065]

Would upvote but 69

[@benos1799]

@@TheRealNeoFrancois Asshole

[@Flyingwithdale]

Nice

[@PerfidiousLeaf]

@@benos1799 It's a typical over-the-top sarcastic response? Chill out, holy shit.

[@mikebravo5157]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GET A FUNNEL. That was way too anxiety inducing, for a tech video......

[@WahotsW]

*water pouring out of the block and into the server* "uh oh..." xD

[@babablacksheep3950]

Linus is trying to beat that Verge PC build video in frustrating people.

[@vvvvvv66666]

IT SPILLED A LITTLE

[@tlchmedia]

"Forget it, I'm just gonna get a Mac Pro." *~LinusTechJokes, 2019*

[@Seedx]

Lel.

[@BenjaminMutuku]

That server room is bigger than a lot of startup companies server rooms! I'm impressed. But, then again, its LTT!

[@Joostinonline]

Well it's a decade old, so hardly a startup.

[@UNOwen-hx7ol]

Me: *Can;t even afford an RTX card Linus: LETS USE THIS RTX 2080ti FOR LIFTING THIS WHOLE THING

[@arencorparencorp2189]

yup linus is getting poor, just using 2080 ti, dont u remember when he used titans for such things?

[@eduardoavila646]

Ha! And i have a... A.... A.. WTF SIS MIRAGE 3?!?!

[@barongerhardt]

@@eduardoavila646 leave my voodoo graphics alone.

[@eduardoavila646]

@@barongerhardt What if i told you its more capable than my mirage ? ;-;

[@Dostro89]

I would really love to see how the new amd 12 core chip compares now

[@bismuth7730]

Hardware unboxed did the adobe premiere test. 3900X completes their benchmark test in 358 sec's and 9900K does it in 437sec's.

[@montazownianr1]

@@bismuth7730 What adobe premiere test? is it downloadable external file?

[@BlokeOnAMotorbike]

@@montazownianr1 he went through his benchark method: ten minute video render red 4k to h.264. It doesn't matter what the content is, duration and typical workload does. Here typical workload being transcoding for youtube.

[@montazownianr1]

@@BlokeOnAMotorbike I see.

[@samtherat6]

5:20 "All we're going to be replacing today is..." *lists all the vital and most expensive parts of the build*

[@davidnonsuch4981]

The way Linus treats the hardware makes it obvious that he doesnt have to pay for it.

[@TheMagnay]

Actually he does usually, companies do send freebies so sometimes he just has one lying around but otherwise he buys it with the company card.

[@lucasklaassen135]

This comment is quite pointless since basically everybody who knows the tools he works with every day also knows how fragile they are. Linus knows that he’s dealing with expensive stuff (and probably needs to pay for it if he breaks it), but since he knows how durable the components are, he treats them how he does.

[@CreeperPookie]

doesn't*

[@GeorgePerakis]

Zen 2 is making this whole series irrelevant almost as fast as it's making Intel CPUs an endangered species.

[@tobymarol7329]

maybe we'll see it in the next part of this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@putra195]

Next time on LTT : i9 9990XE : "I don't feel too good linus"

[@Michplay]

""All this work for 1 minute faster rendering'''' thank me later

[@arwo1143]

Lol,... From 9 minutes to 8 minutes is still 12% improvement

[@neuroticohio52]

Thank you

[@raulserrano351]

@@arwo1143 you must work for CPU marketing team 😂😂😂

[@KalphosZeromar]

@@raulserrano351 you realise that 12% adds up rapidly over time

[@FrankQCMTL]

9 hours to 8 hours

[@sgartner]

20 minutes to find out that if you upgrade everything, the computer *might* actually be faster. Hold the presses.

[@shurik_skalolaz]

Nichgt gut

[@peytonwarren1936]

This dude watches football for the scores

[@MaxCE]

We mostly watch these vids for comedy. And the super terrible sugues

[@shirox11]

LTT is not just about straight up tech info, it’s about making all that info entertaining

[@pr0xZen]

Given threadripper any spins for test, after the release of the new Windows scheduler?

[@jamesrael9557]

I would like to see this, please.

[@TheDeathskull37]

I've heard linus give a speech previously about how he doesn't like to use the absolute "cutting edge" in his office use cases. I wonder if he is using this excuse to not use threadripper. In my office, I created a threadripper based nas (for pcie lanes), and it works great! And it fits perfectly in a 4u case with a specific noctua cooler. I do realize that the 9 series cpu he used may be considered "cutting edge", however ryzen is more so, considering that intel basically just refreshes the Same architecture, while ryzen is still relatively new, and it probably wouldn't be worth switching to unless he used the new ryzen 3000 series.

[@Fragoneryes]

Why not AMD if it is more relevant option for these kinds Edit: Thnks for those answers have a good day and GoOd NiGHt

[@RazorSkinned86]

Because Zen 2 cpus are a better value and support 3200mhz ECC memory. Also, Intel gives LTT a lot of free hardware and does some of their highest paying sponsored video deals.

[@alecburnet4743]

This video was also recorded before zen 3 was released and it would have gone up on floatplane before the embargo lifted.

[@Rarkal]

I'm sat here saying why not AMD, why not AMD, why not AMD :~(

[@APUGuru]

@@Rarkal video was definitely made before the Zen 2 embargo so they probably didn't even have the numbers on Zen 2 yet.

[@Yash1331]

Adobe programs, especially premiere & after effects LOVE intel cpu for higher clock speed (cores also matter but it is heavily biased on clock) & also the Intel QuickSync for these apps are just blazing fast compared to AMD. I'd suggest VEGAS Pro or DaVinci Resolve studio for AMD platform to fully use AMD hardware (cpu & gpu) but depending on the workflow, It'd not fit LTT's editing team right now as vegas pro is too simple and davinci resolve is way too complex. I personally shifted from vegas to premiere to resolve as of now to make use of my ryzen 1700 & rx580. Also this video is I assume recorded before the 3900x launch, as reviews show it beating i9-9900k in both gaming and editing/rendering workload including premiere pro. So that could be a potential upgrade but there could be other advantages of using Intel other than mentioned above as well. Please let me know :D

[@vffa]

"even tho our internet is really fast, there are transfer limits on KZbins side" I mean... The f ... Never thought I'd actually hear someone say they'd outbandwith Google

[@RandomGuy-wx5rc]

Google limits it so some jackass doesn't take up ALL of their bandwidth.

[@SDPhantomGamer]

@@RandomGuy-wx5rc aka Linus Remember when he attempted to back up the entire vault to Google Drive?

[@Pwnstared]

@@RandomGuy-wx5rc so Google now thinks Linus is a jackass?

[@MrArronMc]

Linus might be the only youtuber with a leased line.

[@azarilh2355]

I mean there are TeraBytes uploaded every day in KZbin.

[@bufftammy735]

Linus: "Don't want any risk" Linus: "d5 pump is the most important" Linus: LOOK AT THESE 10 YR OLD SSD'S (not a hater just found it funny)

[@djdeetsdroppingthosefunkyb1236]

For those who are wondering about why it isn’t Ryzen 3000, the techlinked video is “AMD won’t let you buy this...” (thumbnail pic is 3 seconds in) which was posted on June 5th 2019. So this took place before the release of Ryzen 3000. Edit: Well that was a waste, I just saw 13:09. At least I got it right?

[@CleridwenFR]

Linus: "we need to get faster render times!" Also Linus: _spends 2 days to save 1 minute of rendering time_

[@muffinb5446]

1 minute comes down to close to 10%, if u save 10% and 10-15 video a week u might actually save time

[@LRM12o8]

@@muffinb5446 Exactly! Especially since they don't just do one 15 min vid per week, thay have three YT channels, each with multiple vids per week plus they also do professional (commercial/training etc) videos for other companies. So you could safely guess they make about fifteen to twenty vids per week

[@muffinb5446]

@@LRM12o8 yes. basically, if this server runs 24/7 u actually save 2.4 hours a day.... wich is huge

[@muffinb5446]

and then imagine 3 people, u pay, waiting 30 mins for a video. thats 1.5 hours of labor

[@muffinb5446]

@DotNetApp how do you support that claim? as I said. Linus stated that they do 12-15 video a week + streams. u see them doing 3-4 hour videos. u also have to consider that the server is setup to output 1 video in 2-3 formats for the different platforms. so 15 videos exported 2-3 times for youtube, floatplane etc ads up. Linus even said in this video that often timing is important for an upload. saving 10% is a hug deal if you got 3 people waiting for it to finish..... so I don't see your point even if the server doesn't run 24/7.

[@KCS_]

I thought Linus would use a 3900x as the CPU , silly me

[@jocerv43]

video was recorded before zen 2 was released, honestly they should've waited

[@YouCantParkThereMate]

2 week delay between youtube and floatplane

[@chriskeebler5583]

@@jocerv43 Considering the amount of issues it still has the BIOS/firmware/software, that would not be a good idea. Those issues are fine for a consumer, but LTT is a business and that requires stability, which means having as little down time as possible on critical systems like this server. Perhaps in a few months when those issues get fleshed out and the platform is known to be stable, they will try using it, but as of now it's just too new. I also honestly doubt it's an AMD thing either, I'd bet if the Ryzen launch was instead an Intel one, the still would have most likely opted for what they did in this video.

[@StarsMarsRadio]

Guarantee he mentions in the wan show "people were complaining that I didn't use AMD for the server, GUYS I shot it before the release! AMD FANBOYS"

[@Steamrick]

Perhaps they'll try out a 3900X for the next iteration of this video. But the filming for this was definitely done before the Zen 2 launch.

[@OutOfRangeDE]

18:28 is just the best editing of this century!

[@Wheels35]

next time let this thing 'Rip' you say?...could it be a hint at Threadripper, or AMD in general?

[@AdityaSingh97]

Dude, They'll use Intel. Linus has always been an Intel fan.

[@IrakliMosulishvili]

@@AdityaSingh97 rather a shill than "fan" but yeah

[@jedidethfreak]

Linus will NEVER run AMD. The only AMD products he's used were either due to very weird space restrictions that a Fury Nano solved, or one AMD-sponsored low-end PC build. In both cases, it was obvious he hated it.

[@efrenmanuelg]

I think it means he'll kill it pouring water or dropping it.

[@YuzuruRentarou]

@@TheMrKeksLp but now it's in reverse situation where Intel is no brainer for this type of workload

[@extreme123dz]

Uses a Ryzen 3900/3950x or a Threadripper 2990wx :V

[@bokajllensch661]

What do you mean with uses? Those cpus are bad for that usecase.

[@Call_Me_Pickle]

Video was filmed months ago.

[@comagnum1]

@@bokajllensch661 how? Amd stomps Intel in rendering.

[@sirus3002]

This is Intel damage control. Simple as that.

[@bokajllensch661]

@@comagnum1 Yes but not if the clockspeed is much lower.

[@oldmold]

"What the hell are you doing?!?!" "Don't worry, I'm a professional." 10:22

[@ph0t0dave]

I was waiting for the water he spilled to work its way back toward the main board and release the magic blue smoke :P

[@1BigBen]

@@ph0t0dave well Roman puts them in the dishwasher all the time

[@ph0t0dave]

@@1BigBen That is true but not when they are energized ;)

[@1BigBen]

​@@ph0t0dave and that is why we use demineralized water with inhibitors: þ so technically he could go full Linus without a blue smoke, but I think this is the most that he is willing to do to prof a point to the " diy pc is dangerous" Schmuck out there and also as the demineralized water gets older in a loop the conductivity will returned, but hew long hard to say without knowing the parts in the loop

[@CinematicEscapism]

Adobe is your problem. Davinci renders 10 x faster.. no joke.. from Adobe premiere use since 2000

[@craigasketch]

Seriously. Don't use Adobe. Just don't.

[@qps9380]

@@craigasketch But it's so good though

If I remember correctly, he addressed in another video why exactly he is using this encoder.

[@danielbeasley5247]

I get why he is using Adobe media encoder as it is standalone and DaVinci don't provide a standalone but seriously so true I left Adobe when DaVinci 12.5 came out

[@ReyMysterioX]

I was literally about to write this. Adobe tools might be integrated a lot and that's really cool, but they are just not on this high of a professional level when it comes to stuff like this.

[@FROGxDELIVER]

Honestly my favorite videos from LTT, is when they are doing fix it stuff that isn't fully prepared.

[@DesolatorMagic]

If you want XMP to work maaaaybe buy RAM that matches your CPU's memory controller speeds and then buy the sticks with the lowest timings from there. It will work 100% of the time. That's why the board comes with a warning that "above xxxx MHz is considered overclocking and may not work" and OMG WHAT DO YOU KNOW that limit always happens to be the memory controller speed of the fastest CPU it takes. Amazing, I know!

[@dazextralarge]

Going from 10 cores quad channel to 8 cores dual channel. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?

[@davidmooney5158]

Have to agree. I'm lucky enough to own a i7 6950X with 32GB of RAM in a ASUS X99 Deluxe mobo and it is the dogs nuts when it comes to transcoding.

[@eduardoavila646]

4 times the performance.. DROP!!

[@JG-yk6ny]

The memory is the issue here, not only did he lose 2 channels he used one of the worst boards for memory. I have an Aorus Master and my god when it comes to memory is this thing frustrating as hell. Shame too because the VRMs are soooo good.

[@BorisFett]

As someone who works in enterprise IT I find these server related videos very interesting.

[@xxxxyyyxxxx584]

seeing that trident z royal go into a server actually killed me. i am dead now

[@RandomTheories]

F

[@tomr3422]

Its sooo shiny !

[@tokunin8324]

I have a 2-set 3000mhz gold set and it’s so nice XD

[@rejiix]

Did you just... Use Trident Z Royal in a server?

[@96Assassine]

Did you just... wonder about Linus doing weird stuff?

[@maxie-gakusha]

@Phoenix he use the OS which are best to get the server to complete the task it is supposed to do fastest, which in this case, are rendering using adobe encoder which use win, there are no OS that is always better then the other as the best OS is the one that get the work done as intended in the way it is intended, in the best way.

[@redseb99]

@Phoenix helpx.adobe.com/ca/media-encoder/system-requirements.html

[@redseb99]

But they should probably switch to a current version of Windows 10 that supports the chipset and GPU much better than old Windows 7

[@Hyperion62]

@@redseb99 yeah but windows 10 is a bloated, malware infested, spyware ridden piece of crap. also it force restarts a lot which is REALLY bad for this use case. Maybe LTSB?

[@MrJeVai]

Always fun to see almost half of LTT videos are about how they manage get their videos to youtube

[@enigmaPL]

I'll give that AORUS motherboard a good home Linus... It's probably got abandonment issues at this point. lol

[@WeeManXL]

Even though I don't like the Intel way of doing things, still would not say no to an offer like that.

[@OblivionSilk]

"And a GTX 980" Said so calmly, so nonchalant. remember when the 980 was an amazing card that people drooled over? *sigh*

[@TheAdatto]

Yep. I have a Matrox Millennium 1 4mb WRam that i bought for 1200$ it's worth 10c now.

[@tomr3422]

I still have my reference 980 for a backup.

[@squidwardo9861]

I just got one for £150 a couple of months ago

[@Artcore103]

@@squidwardo9861 still a very decent card for high settings 1080p in the hardest titles, and higher rez and or settings in easier ones.

[@mrsoomo]

Wow new episode of TechPorn. Nice. Thx Guys. Wanna see more of Tony btw

[@ajhabdkaiak8173]

Hey Linus i know your not going to see this but i want to thank you and the team for all of the work you guys put into the videos! I can really tell how much you guys care about quality.

[@RealAadilFarooqui]

Editors After Uploading this Video "Finally He is done Playing with our Homework"

[@Gorebashed]

Linus: “This is a good sign.” Me: Probably a bad sign. Linus: **facepalms the table**

[@polychoron]

You can't facepalm a table. Well you can, but a palm would need to be involved, & it would be awkward. Does the hand point towards the face, or the desk? Oh yeah, I believe the proper term is headdesk. Those Ds are awkward, too.

[@mihaimandachi3204]

@@polychoron r/iamverysmart

[@dhruvchawla5476]

@@mihaimandachi3204 what... how? r/ihavereddit

[@ShroudedWolf51]

How do you facepalm a table?

[@HumanMD]

So basically any difference in actual CPU performance hits a wall of Adobe being the Canon DSLR of software and sticking with old as heck slow rendering engines. Mkay, gotcha

[@vamwolf]

Adobe slow on software fixes.

[@geoffreybassett6741]

Seriously. Resolve uses Nvidia's GPU H254 and H265 encoder and it's high quality and blazing fast.

[@loreaver3882]

They should switch to iMovie lmao

[@alec_2334]

I dont typically comment on videos but I will say I really appriciate linus really hasnt changed his video style since. becoming so popular. So many other youtubers change so much after they get a couple million thst I typically no longer like them. Great work!

[@Assaultpowered]

Linus : Can i shutdown our servers ? video editers : Hum ... no. Linus : Ok, i'll shutdown them lowl :D

[@WyvernApalis]

KZbin: has upload speed limit Next LTT video: *UPGRADING THE KZbin HQ SERVERS*

[@joeshonk9715]

Given the failure of this endeavor I wouldn't want him to do an instruction on that. It be a lot of effort and no benefit.

[@ciekce]

@@joeshonk9715 right over your head then?

[@joeshonk9715]

@@ciekce No, just joining in on the bash the Linus thread

[@JAMingMayo]

"So the only things were changing today are CPU, GPU, RAM and motherboard." Basically the whole system 😂

[@bjshifflett5408]

Did they change the case? NO! and what do you see when you walk by the rack smarty pants? No change. So shut it!

[@JAMingMayo]

@@bjshifflett5408 No exterior change lols

[@davepusey]

When it hardlocked at 12:22 I had the exact same issue with my 9900K build. Discovered that I had to turn off "multicore enhancement" to get it stable with prolonged 100% cpu load.

[@brittneypaul2089]

Found this article: www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3389-intel-tdp-investigation-9900k-violating-turbo-duration-z390 Apparently full turbo speed is only supposed to last up to 120 seconds. (Did not know that until now)

[@teiem5456]

you can right click in the taskmanager on the cpu graph and select "change Graph to" => "logical" to view the utilization of each thread

[@thepcenthusiastchannel2300]

Uhhh... why go Intel for this? This seems like the type of machine that would have best benefited from Ryzen.

[@WallLurker]

He literally explains it in the beginning

[@thepcenthusiastchannel2300]

@@WallLurker yes, because he was using the wrong video encoder. It you upgrade the hardware, you also have to upgrade the software. This is a job AMD excels at, of course assuming you're not using software that doesn't scale (and why would you be doing that anyway?).

[@Gusto3791]

Linus like three days ago: "There's almost no reason to use Intel anymore." Linus now: "TEAM BLUE MOTHERFUCKERS"

[@DagaraLP]

I'm pretty sure that this was filmed before the launch of the new AMD chips.

[@ChristopherGoggans]

Almost certainly filmed a couple of weeks ago since it's not a time critical upload.

[@amgvlogs5087]

@@DagaraLP But threadripper was available... just saying!

[@glsracer]

@@amgvlogs5087, exactly. A Threadripper 2950X would have been more than enough.

[@yskuzi]

Adobe is more optimised for intel plus TR can ran that fast or overclock that high whole point is to try and push for 5ghz

[@brandonmurray3629]

Would love to see you guys run some tests with Resolve using your workflow. I think it would do a much better job taking advantage of this hardware. Adobe needs to focus on optimising it's software vs adding useless features and pushing updates that crash your system.

[@PlaCrown]

Lemme upgrade my gaming rig with 1500 dollar cpu motherboard combo This performs nice let's get another one *HOLD UP*

[@damianjonker4777]

Moth its prob The same one, he took The 9900k out of his system Again

[@PlaCrown]

@@damianjonker4777 That makes sense lol

[@hubertnnn]

Moore: Computers speed doubles every 18 months Linus: Gets 10% improvement after couple of years.

[@WookieWarriorz]

hubertnnn 10 core $2000 cpu gets beat by 10% by $400 8 core cpu

[@barackobusiness9593]

@@WookieWarriorz let's admit it a 9900k is more than 400

[@ShroudedWolf51]

Moore's Law hasn't been a thing for quite a while now.

[@lightningMcqueen5]

I started watching LTT thinking it's a Linux channel . 😂😅😅 Btw i don't use Arch and Congrats on Debian buster

[@nebulium6641]

imagine not using a rolling release distro

[@greatcanadianmoose3965]

haha, another Buster Boy

[@aramisanasazi2833]

RYZEN Threadripper 2990WX 32 Core Build!!!!!!!!!! Thats what we want to see!!!!! Upgrading the Video Render Server Part 2 XD

[@xmrsedibossgamer6294]

Or epyc 64 core maaan

[@Zenheizer]

Or Threadripper 3960X maaaaan

[@pythonprofreak7522]

Make 3970x or 3990x

[@lucasklaassen135]

You didn’t see the video? He says explicitly that the server didn’t benefit much from more cores, but rather from higher frequency...

[@pythonprofreak7522]

@@lucasklaassen135 I watched the video. He already has 7880XE, 9900K and 9990XE built. Why not looking for different processors? It is fun to watch him building a new one on part 2 using different type of processors. Intel 10th, Epyc or Threadripper.