All-time Greatest Fast Bowlers In Test Cricket | Top 20

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@muhammadsiraj5537
@muhammadsiraj5537 2 жыл бұрын
What's the criteria?
@ashleysilver5594
@ashleysilver5594 2 жыл бұрын
Some test stats. Dennis Lillee 355 wickets at 2.99, Curtly Ambrose 405 wickets at 2.31, Malcolm Marshall 376 wickets at 2.68, Wasim Akram 414 wickets at 2.59, Richard Hadlee 431 wickets at 2.78, Kapil Dev 434 wickets at 2.78, Glen Mcgrath 563 wickets at 2.5. These were the best. Just because they all played over 70 tests and in different countrys and had economy below 3.
@mtnstrand2819
@mtnstrand2819 11 ай бұрын
Compare the wickets taken, the strike rate and average, and you'll see that Dale Steyn was by quite a distance better than Kapil Dev.
@howardirving-n5k
@howardirving-n5k 10 ай бұрын
the best fast bowlers to me are Ambrose Marshall Wasim
@malidan1196
@malidan1196 10 ай бұрын
Malcolm Marshall has the best stats because he nearly always bowled with great bowlers making it harder to get a good tally. If memory serves me he also bowled way less overs than the rest with a better strike rate. You also have to respect Kepil Dev, he had to bowl a serious amount of overs on pretty placid wickets. I don't have the same respect for Akram and Younis after the ball tampering scandal.
@malidan1196
@malidan1196 10 ай бұрын
@mtnstrand2819 Dale Steyn took a stack of wickets against mediocre sides like Zimbabwe Bangladesh The 2000's Inflated many a players records, If these guys played against the 70- 80's windies teams we would have seen the lowest scores ever recorded.
@gopalchatur2303
@gopalchatur2303 3 ай бұрын
​@malidan1196 yes Kapil Dev should be among top 20
@trkayani4949
@trkayani4949 2 жыл бұрын
Should be a list of best fast bowler who took 300+ wickets ! That would be easy to compare.
@joshuahenry9135
@joshuahenry9135 2 жыл бұрын
Andy Roberts and Jeff Thompson need to be in. And 40 test cutoff should be applied. Impact should be important as statistics hence my case for Thompson - he brought shock and fear. Any attack needs that element. In those mid 70's series other bowlers had better statistics but opposing players tell that the Thomo factor was huge.
@robertcameron3709
@robertcameron3709 2 жыл бұрын
40 tests minimum. OK, well that gets rid of virtually every bowler and batsman who played before the second World War. So no Bradman or Hobbs, no Bill O'Reilly or Clarrie Grimmett, no S.F. Barnes or Victor Trumper. And, most importantly, no W.G.Grace the greatest cricketer who ever lived and the man who created modern batting. Without these men the modern game would not exist in its current form.
@baantalingngam
@baantalingngam 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertcameron3709 Bradman played 52 tests.
@robertcameron3709
@robertcameron3709 2 жыл бұрын
@@baantalingngam I stand corrected. Mind you, he played a few series after WW2, but my general point still stands.
@mkeysou812
@mkeysou812 2 жыл бұрын
Thommo has become somewhat overrated as the years go by and his legend grows. He could bowl a load of real old tripe at times, and was very inconsistent. Terrifying on his day to be sure, but not in the top 20 in my book
@baantalingngam
@baantalingngam 2 жыл бұрын
Thommo was definitely not considered "overrated" by those who had the misfortune to face him in the mid to late 70s. Interestingly in the WSC fastest bowler in the world competition in Perth in 1978, Thommo not only was fastest (Michael Holding and Imran Khan were 2nd and 3rd respectively), but also "most accurate", i.e. he hit the stumps the most times. Thommo took 200 wickets in 51 tests, an average of basically 4 per test, hardly that of a less than great bowler.
@stn5295
@stn5295 2 жыл бұрын
Number one bowler has played only 18 tests !!! Can't get more hilarious.
@stupendous1068
@stupendous1068 2 жыл бұрын
Should have been a minimum of 20 tests I reckon.
@sanjaydamle6194
@sanjaydamle6194 Жыл бұрын
He would have crossed 600 marks, had he played 100 tests.
@johnnorth9514
@johnnorth9514 10 ай бұрын
No, 21@@stupendous1068
@sandydennylives1392
@sandydennylives1392 9 ай бұрын
His figures don't lie. Not many test matches in that era.
@neilgovender7450
@neilgovender7450 5 ай бұрын
Remember these English bowlers played on uncovered pitches
@lionelduplessis9913
@lionelduplessis9913 10 ай бұрын
Suggestion: narrow this list down to the last 35 years like you did with the test batsman Another suggestion: Let's see a list of the greatest test bowling partnerships. Eg Walsh and Ambrose, Donald and Pollock, Akram and Younis. That should make for really interesting stats. One more suggestion: Compare the fast bowlers who has the best test record on the sub-continent
@mabbrey
@mabbrey 2 жыл бұрын
not seen them all but hadlee and waquar for me
@calvincarr1001
@calvincarr1001 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine a man played 18 tests making the greatest list? It's a travesty
@sandydennylives1392
@sandydennylives1392 9 ай бұрын
You had to take long ardous sea voyages to play Aus India or Jamaica
@phoarey
@phoarey 2 жыл бұрын
Wisden listed Dennis Lillee as the 6th greatest player of the 20th century. The Australian Cricket Board picked Lillee, Lindwall and Miller as its three fast bowlers in its team of the century. Richie Benaud listed Sid (S,F,) Barnes in his all time team.
@batman100
@batman100 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to compare old and new players pitches so different the whole game is so different,
@roystonfender1053
@roystonfender1053 2 жыл бұрын
Ambrose #1- Never hit for a six. Played against all the great batsmen of his time.
@shivashankark2764
@shivashankark2764 2 жыл бұрын
In a ODI in sharjah, Salim Malik hit ambrose for a six.
@Nazeem_6621
@Nazeem_6621 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, you're so wrong.
@tenzinglama7650
@tenzinglama7650 2 жыл бұрын
Inzamam hit him for a six and that too in West Indies.
@murtazadurrani76
@murtazadurrani76 4 ай бұрын
​@@shivashankark2764not only salim malik saeed Anwar in 1997 at sharjah wasim Akram imran inzamam basit ali vinod kambli and many other
@khawajawaleed9
@khawajawaleed9 Ай бұрын
Bhsi inzi hit ambrose for so many times
@bobomac8330
@bobomac8330 2 жыл бұрын
Just based on strike rate. Fair enough, if you base it on other criteria then a different list.
@ThouDailyBlab
@ThouDailyBlab 2 жыл бұрын
A list of the best stats wise isn't always a list of the greatest. I've watched test cricket since the 70's and Lillee and Thommo would always be my opening combo. They scared the proverbial out of batsmen. Curtly and Garner would be next change. Shoaib Ahktar and Brett Lee would be in my top 20 too. Thanks for posting, very interesting. I think the cut off for players lists should be when teams went from steamboat travel to flying by planes - in the plane era players play more games, are generally fitter and more professional.
@gobindakumarchakraborty4163
@gobindakumarchakraborty4163 2 жыл бұрын
1.W.Akram 2.D.Lilly 3.R.Hadlee 4.A.Roberts 5 M Holding 6 M. Marshall 7.C.Ambrose 8G.Macgrah,,9 A.Donald10.J.Anderson11.Imran Khan12.W Yunus 13. K.Dev14.F.Truman
@rohitpratap4174
@rohitpratap4174 2 жыл бұрын
Lillee and Thommo were frightening in Australia over a short period. Just as Mitchell Johnson was. I would rate greatness for longevity and ability in non Asian and Asian conditions higher ie versatility of skills. For me Marshall, Steyn, McGrath, Hadlee the greatest. Without relying purely on stats and looking at the prevailing playing conditions of the day, I think it is reasonable to include Lohmann and Barnes right at the top of this list.
@malidan1196
@malidan1196 10 ай бұрын
​@gobindakumarchakraborty4163 No way js Akram the best.😂😂😂
@malidan1196
@malidan1196 10 ай бұрын
There are alot of bowlers at the top that filled their boots against the minnow, something the bowlers from the 90 backward didn't do. What's Pollock in the top 20, he would even be in my top 40. Roberts Croft Willis Botham Kepil Dev Lawson Gough Anderson Braod Daniels Clarke Aktar Lee Hall Mcdermott Steyn Bond Etc. All faster and more feared.
@malidan1196
@malidan1196 10 ай бұрын
This is a joke No.1 and two only every played against Australia bowling side arm at 30 mph.😂😂
@v.gopalakrishnan350
@v.gopalakrishnan350 2 жыл бұрын
Many are missing! What about Wes Hall and Andy Roberts of West Indies Jeff Thompson of Australia?
@abdulhafeezansari4671
@abdulhafeezansari4671 Жыл бұрын
This list is incomplete without mentioning name of the West Indies Legend Sir Wesley Winfield Hall.
@paulgoodman7975
@paulgoodman7975 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot leave out Anderson from MCC CURTLY Ambrose should be placed higher as well as Dennis Lillee.
@stupendous1068
@stupendous1068 2 жыл бұрын
Ambrose was placed higher than Lillee.
@tuttaprasad3388
@tuttaprasad3388 2 жыл бұрын
Malcom Marshal is best Above 300 wickets best avg as well as Excellant strike rate
@khalidnaseem1846
@khalidnaseem1846 2 жыл бұрын
The West Indies had Roberts, Holding, Croft, Garner and Marshall in the 80's. They were so good that Marshall had to wait till Roberts retired to get into the team as a full fledged member ! How many have you included ? Statistics do not really prove a bowler's worth ! Have you heard of the "Adelaide Express " Rodney Hogg - the demon fast bowler ?
@richardmcgrath9729
@richardmcgrath9729 2 жыл бұрын
​@@khalidnaseem1846 Yeah Hogg was a very fast aggressive bowler but also a shit human being...google the anti-islamic sign he painted on his roof after either 9/11 or the Bali Bombings...I forget which one...he also made a fool of himself by disrespecting our Richard Hadlee by not wearing a helmet in an ODI in Aussie when Paddles went off his short run... poor Rodney had blood all through his blonde curls and on his canary yellow shirt after getting his ear squashed! 🤣🇳🇿
@stupendous1068
@stupendous1068 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the guys on this list, I would have predicted Marshall to be the GOAT.
@donaldweir2403
@donaldweir2403 2 жыл бұрын
@@stupendous1068 I agree!! My own dream team openers? Malcolm Marshall (with the wind), Dennis Lillie (into the wind), Wasim Akram (first change). Just an opinion 🤔
@andeglenderson5240
@andeglenderson5240 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in the 80's adoring cricket Marshall was the most feared, Khan the most inspirational and Hadlee the most consummate. Perhaps Marshall played one season too many as he either lost that searing pace or batters became better handling it. Ambrose is still my fav of all the West Indians
@abdulGhaffar-dm4yl
@abdulGhaffar-dm4yl Жыл бұрын
My all time favorite waqar younis toe crusher England batsman use to steal shoes against him I love it his bowling action and consistently attack to stumps
@gerarddymond1743
@gerarddymond1743 2 жыл бұрын
Richard hadley
@flamingfrancis
@flamingfrancis 2 жыл бұрын
Did you nod off #4
@stupendous1068
@stupendous1068 2 жыл бұрын
Hadlee.
@vidyashankar9864
@vidyashankar9864 2 жыл бұрын
No Courtney Walsh ? He has taken more than 550 wickets in test cricket.
@soitra
@soitra 2 жыл бұрын
Could you explain how you have ranked them?
@arayathinalvijayan1797
@arayathinalvijayan1797 2 жыл бұрын
What about Jeff Thomson Shoaib Akhtar and Brett Lee ?
@clayton896
@clayton896 2 жыл бұрын
The list is the best. Not the fastest
@alandaniel1082
@alandaniel1082 11 ай бұрын
Interesting list started watching test cricket in the 60s till now so am biased to this period, have only heard about a few of the early bowlers enjoyed video.
@menzimngadi6793
@menzimngadi6793 2 жыл бұрын
What's "great" about playing 15 tests?
@vasantalkieschannel
@vasantalkieschannel 2 жыл бұрын
In those days, the number of matches played was very very less per year
@williamalexander9485
@williamalexander9485 2 жыл бұрын
@@vasantalkieschannel Agreed that’s why they don’t qualify.
@vasantalkieschannel
@vasantalkieschannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamalexander9485 here the quality should not be ignored. It should be considered. Because none of the players were that good like them right. That means they were exceptional. It should be considered. For me bowling avg is the highest consideration
@williamalexander9485
@williamalexander9485 2 жыл бұрын
@@vasantalkieschannel Beating bad competition is not a prerequisite to being on a greatest list. A Player with 18 test matches should be disqualified from being compared to 1 with 98. That’s less than 4 full test series. Probably against 1 county. Totally Absurd
@vasantalkieschannel
@vasantalkieschannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamalexander9485 so that means bradman is not greatest? He only played below 40 test matches. It's absurd to ignore an era just because they played less matches. It's not that they played less matches because they had injuries. It's just that number of matches played in those days were very less that's why. Also if you are taking a list of greatest players, it should be across all eras.
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 10 ай бұрын
Would you rather pad up to face Barnes, Lohmann or Marshall?
@mathewclark4824
@mathewclark4824 2 жыл бұрын
When your career lasts 10 yrs due to sailing half way around the world to play or you stay at home waiting for the home series, play 3 6 test series and on uncovered wickets against non professional croketers, astonishing statistics like the last 2 do not do justice to the their standing as 1 and 2, so statistics aren't the be all, I can't believe Jimmy Anderson ist near the top.
@sabyasachiacharya4641
@sabyasachiacharya4641 2 жыл бұрын
No Shoeb Akhtar, no Andy Roberts, no Wesley Hall, no Charlie Griffiths.....??? How they can be missed..??
@iftikhar8malick
@iftikhar8malick 2 жыл бұрын
U r rt ,third class rating
@clayton896
@clayton896 2 жыл бұрын
Akhtar was a great bowler but he can't be considered a top 20 bowler. First, his avg is not as good as any bowler. Second, he only played 45 tests in a modern era. Longevity and consistency go against him.
@exchangedspider
@exchangedspider 2 жыл бұрын
@@clayton896 yeah then proceeds to have players with 17 tests in the list! lmao so you may need to watch the video again if you want to talk about longevity.
@andrewsimoes1425
@andrewsimoes1425 9 ай бұрын
Charlie Griffith wasn't that good. In fact he threw the ball often. Hall and Roberts, a case can be made. Shoaib, no chance.
@gulahmad9140
@gulahmad9140 9 ай бұрын
no bret lee
@rangasai7459
@rangasai7459 2 жыл бұрын
minimum bench mark should be 20 to 25 tests.
@brettwilkinson9529
@brettwilkinson9529 2 жыл бұрын
Richard Hadllee , Dennis Lillee, Kapil Dev , Curtley Ambrose, Micheal Holding, Jeff Thompson , Wasim Akram, Joel Garner, Andy Roberts, Glenn McGrath, Imran Kahn, Malcolm Marshall, Fred Truman .
@subwaymirdif
@subwaymirdif 2 жыл бұрын
I think they didn't consider Kapil because he was a medium pacer.
@syedhussain55
@syedhussain55 2 жыл бұрын
List without Kapil. If fast bowling is criteria then where is Shoaib Akhter.
@saurabhmittal2533
@saurabhmittal2533 2 жыл бұрын
Anderson, Kapil Dev, Courtney Walsh, Stuard broad, Chaminda vaas,
@JaseC80
@JaseC80 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Interesting list and would say it’s a ‘personal top 20’. There are so many bowlers not on that list who statistically are top 20 of all time.
@andeglenderson5240
@andeglenderson5240 2 жыл бұрын
So many greats. Bond, Willis, Lee, Walsh, Tyson...endless list
@nandurumuralikrishna9837
@nandurumuralikrishna9837 Жыл бұрын
Why Kapil Dev name is not in list . He is not fast bowler?
@rajshekhar7966
@rajshekhar7966 2 жыл бұрын
Fanstic List...Could not understand the criteria of this list!!! I feel these players should have also been considered..Andy Roberts, Patrick Patterson, Courtney Walsh, Jeff Thompson, Craig Mcdermott, Brett Lee, Shoib Aktar, Dani Morrison, Shane Bond, Kapil dev, Ian Botham, James Anderson, Stuart Broad 😄
@MrRamesh5
@MrRamesh5 2 жыл бұрын
No place for a bowler who took 434 wickets for India!! Kapildev? Because the author does not consider India as a cricket playing nation!! To include Shaun Pollack but not Kapildev, what a Joke? Must be an Englishman who selected this list. To consider George Lohman and Spofforth in the list when only two countries were playing!! There are no credentials to list great fast bowlers.
@sayandey5348
@sayandey5348 2 жыл бұрын
Kapildev wasn't a fast bowler he was a medium pace bowler....learn properly before comment ok friend. ..
@emano1565
@emano1565 2 жыл бұрын
@@sayandey5348 So are others; E.g. Pollock, Fred Spofforth, George Lohmann
@djangorheinhardt
@djangorheinhardt 2 жыл бұрын
No, I do not agree.I think Kapil Dev was a genuine "fast " bowler .He also opened the bowling several times !
@emano1565
@emano1565 2 жыл бұрын
@@djangorheinhardt He was mostly a fast-medium pace bowler. According to Gavaskar he was genuinely quick in the early part of his career. During the last 2-3 years of his career, he slowed down and was a medium pace bowler.
@LOMASH29
@LOMASH29 2 жыл бұрын
@@sayandey5348 Abe gadha...wasim Akra fast thaa?
@trkayani4949
@trkayani4949 2 жыл бұрын
Should be consist of last 40 years because game has lot changed since then, swing art spread all over the test plying nations. There are lot other bowlers like Jimmy Anderson, Kapil Dev, Chaminda Vas, Shoaib Akhtar, Asif !
@darrylbaker5271
@darrylbaker5271 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the memories.
@colddiesel
@colddiesel 7 ай бұрын
Larwood, Miller, Lindwall, Statham, Tyson, Thomson !!!
@noamanmasood9216
@noamanmasood9216 2 жыл бұрын
Notable omissions Botham, Kapil, Croft
@ronaugustin7520
@ronaugustin7520 2 жыл бұрын
Walsh
@stupendous1068
@stupendous1068 2 жыл бұрын
Anderson, McKenzie, Roberts, Willis.
@kennethcrowther2277
@kennethcrowther2277 2 жыл бұрын
Yea by that reckoning you could even have the likes of Ryan Harris and Shane Bond in there, neither of whom should be in a list of the 20 greatest fast bowlers of all time to be fair. They both had the quality and therefore the potential I guess, but the point is they didn't have anything like the level of achievement that I believe should be required for such a list. Longevity and consistency of selection need to be big factors really. There are some notable deserving absences from your list. Andy Roberts probably comes to mind first. Also there is Kagiso Rabada, Courtney Walsh, Keith Millar, James Anderson, Kapil Dev, Bob Willis, Ian Botham, Brett Lee even though some of them were allrounders or had higher test averages, but the impact they made, especially for large periods of their careers, or in ODI cricket in addition to their test achievements, and where they had to take their wickets, - talking about Botham, Dev and Lee in particular. I know some experts question the fact sometimes, but there is no doubt in my mind that those 3 we're all great bowlers in their own different ways in my opinion. Also there are 2 newer up and comers who will both demand a place on a list in time, and already are, in Pat Cummins and Jasprit Bumra.
@crickstats
@crickstats 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your valuable ideas
@rasheedrehman4694
@rasheedrehman4694 Жыл бұрын
My list based on average, strike rate, opponent, role in wins, logivity, terror on batsmen, variety, speed, ability to use new ball and abilty to reverse swing,. Marshal, Headley, Lillee, Imran, Amrose, Styen, Akram, MacGrah, Holding, GARNER, Truman, Alan Davidson, Waqar, Andy Roberts, Ray Lindwal, Bishop, Walsh, Croft, Rabada, Keith Miller, Pollock, NONE OF THEM AVERAGES ABOVE 25.
@chrisboyes5944
@chrisboyes5944 Жыл бұрын
Super top 20. The only quibble is that I would have Freddie Trueman and Dennis Lillie in my top five segment. Otherwise, it was excellent.
@vysakhvipin
@vysakhvipin 2 жыл бұрын
most wicket test wickets by a fast bowler, Mr.James Anderson not in this list 🤣
@ShashikantShanbhag
@ShashikantShanbhag 2 жыл бұрын
Kapil, Anderson, Broad, Shoaib, Roberts, Thompson, Croft, Walsh, Griffith, Gilchrist, Wakar, Larwood, Chaminda were all Great bowlers, who can be included in this video, which can be edited with a Title, Top 40 Fast Bowlers of All-time....
@venkataramank.s2122
@venkataramank.s2122 2 жыл бұрын
Brian Sthatham,Alec Bedser,Proctor, Peter Pollock are some more names .
@Hssridharan
@Hssridharan 2 жыл бұрын
Gilchrist? Or Gillespie
@ShashikantShanbhag
@ShashikantShanbhag 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hssridharan when we were babies almost 70 years ago, Hall and Gilchrist came to India from Windies team....The West Zone batsman, after the first ball from Gilchrist, came running to pavilion refusing to Play further, he did not know what happened....he replied, Jan salamat to Matches pachas.....My life is precious than playing nasty bowling...HaHaHa
@kantilalparekh8062
@kantilalparekh8062 2 жыл бұрын
Wesly Hall... West Indies...? Ramakant Desai... India...?
@stupendous1068
@stupendous1068 2 жыл бұрын
Gilchrist was a keeper. He was never going to make this list.
@Vinodkumar-fg1qm
@Vinodkumar-fg1qm 2 жыл бұрын
Most Wl bowlers averaging below 21. Cut off should be minimum 50 tests.
@kennedyraimundothomas6569
@kennedyraimundothomas6569 2 жыл бұрын
Andy Roberts, Jeff Thompson, Wayne Daniel, Colin Croft. Not a just list.
@glencampbell6909
@glencampbell6909 11 ай бұрын
That is a very difficult decision and will be a much debatable subject if must not come down to number of wickets taken but to effectiveness and the number of test played
@subwaymirdif
@subwaymirdif 2 жыл бұрын
Some greats such as Sarfaraz Nawaz who introduced reverse swing to the cricket and Kapil are not included because they were not genuine fast bowlers rather medium Pacers.
@tonylove4800
@tonylove4800 2 жыл бұрын
I don't give a shit about anybody before World War 1. The top four have to be (not in any order, but I am a Kiwi): Hadlee, Marshall, Lillee, Trueman. Wasim next as the greatest leftie and I've always loved Holding . And, I guess, McGrath. Marshall's strike rate was phenomenal and Hadlee's five-wicket hauls just unbelievable.
@rafishaikh3598
@rafishaikh3598 Жыл бұрын
CURTLY AMBROSE, one of the MOST ACCURATE & Most In cutter BOWLER. BATSMEN were fearful to face AMBROSE. RAFI MAINE USA
@familyplans3788
@familyplans3788 2 жыл бұрын
Based on what statistic? Fastest was Frank Tyson Most dangerous was Jeff Thompson Funniest was Bob Willis
@derekallan1341
@derekallan1341 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson was great but not close to being the fastest, sorry. There are Aussies and Pakistani bowlers faster plus a few others
@donaldweir2403
@donaldweir2403 2 жыл бұрын
Frank Tyson! Often overlooked when 'fastest ever bowler' topic comes up. And the second fastest in the '50s (???), the occasional ball by Keith Miller. Bradman reckoned the four fastest - in no order except first test played - were Larwood, Tyson, Thomson, Holding.
@davewilson9738
@davewilson9738 2 жыл бұрын
That is without doubt the worst list I have ever seen. The amount of omissions is incredible. Willis, Thompson, Roberts, Trueman, Larwood even. Was this compiled with the aid of a dart board?
@rameshshankar1010
@rameshshankar1010 Жыл бұрын
All those bowlers should ve been included
@andrewsimoes1425
@andrewsimoes1425 9 ай бұрын
Trueman is in there. It's not such a bad list.
@rohitpratap4174
@rohitpratap4174 2 жыл бұрын
Great list!! Without purely relying on stats which change era to era, I think it is very reasonable to include Lohmann and Barnes right at the top of this list. I'm glad the likes of Marshall, Steyn, Imran and McGrath are rated higher than Lillee and Thomson for the sheer versatility of skills across conditions, frightening though the latter were in the early to mid 70s Australian conditions
@crickstats
@crickstats 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
@Kinshukgoldenoldies
@Kinshukgoldenoldies 2 жыл бұрын
Notable ommissions - Wes Hall, Charlie Griffith, Andy Roberts, & our very own Kapil Dev
@rohitpratap4174
@rohitpratap4174 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kinshukgoldenoldies I'd agree with Andy Roberts, the fast bowling professor making the top 20
@karlmylnere5712
@karlmylnere5712 2 жыл бұрын
This is just personal opinion , the arguments could continue for decades , everyone has their own idea of the greatest fast men ,I am almost eighty and have watched many greats during my lifetime but I would not be sure of making such a list , times and conditions change , people also which makes a definitive list almost impossible.
@peterpearson1675
@peterpearson1675 8 ай бұрын
Do you remember what CMJ wrote when he did his book 'the greatest 100 cricketers of all time? Something to the effect that he knew thousands would disagree,he had many regrets that many immortals had to be left out,but the important thing is that it gets people discussing the list .This is certainly qhat you have achieved.
@bilalbari8782
@bilalbari8782 6 ай бұрын
Best list.
@bilalian77
@bilalian77 2 жыл бұрын
This list has the names that I haven't heard ever. No.1 guy played 18 matches in 1800s.
@alexlanning712
@alexlanning712 2 жыл бұрын
"Crickstats"--you've opened a can of worms
@anirbanbhattacharya7214
@anirbanbhattacharya7214 28 күн бұрын
Kapil bowled in indian red, dust oriented, spinnin track where balls seldom cross knee hight, remember it , bumrah also suffering now for such spinning track, nobody bowled such negative enviornment, not judge kail by statistics, one of the greatest.
@padmanabanvenugopal1985
@padmanabanvenugopal1985 2 жыл бұрын
Kapil Dev a legend. We support him, we don't care about other non indian players. Jai Hind
@spdharan
@spdharan 2 жыл бұрын
You are not a cricket lover then.
@narayanshastri7418
@narayanshastri7418 2 жыл бұрын
That is not cricket.
@hellohowru2930
@hellohowru2930 2 жыл бұрын
After world war best fast bowlers. Not in order of being the best. Roberts Holding Croft Garner Marshall Ambrose. Lillee Thomson Magrath. Allan donald Stein. Hadlee Imran khan Wasim akram Waqar younis Shoaib akhter.
@ArunSingh-zt3dk
@ArunSingh-zt3dk 3 ай бұрын
Greatest fast bowler of all time Micheal holding Joel garner Curtly ambrose Wasim akram Glenn mc grath that’s all time great one more add Dennis lilee
@mathewrichardson9009
@mathewrichardson9009 2 жыл бұрын
Please consider the competition when your make a list like this.
@williamburnham3659
@williamburnham3659 2 жыл бұрын
The order and omissions show that statistics are not the full story
@syedshafat618
@syedshafat618 2 жыл бұрын
Andy roberts was the greatest of all ; he indrodused swing & his action was smooth as butter ;
@rasheedrehman4694
@rasheedrehman4694 2 жыл бұрын
I think any bowler with average of more than 25-26 during his peak year or most of the career, can not be a great bowler. Mor over, there is no great fast bowler before WW 2 because level of competition was not great.
@bowvayne4842
@bowvayne4842 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff Thomson, Jimmy Anderson, Andy Roberts all big misses.
@djangorheinhardt
@djangorheinhardt 2 жыл бұрын
And Brian Statham ,Frank Tyson,Bob Willis and a few more !Thommo should definitely be in ,and Andy Roberts !
@stupendous1068
@stupendous1068 2 жыл бұрын
Graham McKenzie was another one I would have considered.
@djangorheinhardt
@djangorheinhardt 2 жыл бұрын
@@stupendous1068 Yes Garth McKenzie was a bit tasty for batsmen He rattled a few dentures in his time.I think he played a season for Leicestershire in 1975 and a newspaper story said he drove his yellow Mercedes back home to Australia across Europe and Asia at the end of the season .He must have been exhausted after that trip !
@stupendous1068
@stupendous1068 2 жыл бұрын
@@djangorheinhardt Yeah. I have heard that story about him.
@jimmartin9704
@jimmartin9704 2 жыл бұрын
" The best " is always controversial This doesn't take into consideration the different era's , non covered wickets, professionalism and there should be a certain amount of test
@m.b.nagaraj7666
@m.b.nagaraj7666 4 ай бұрын
B.S.Chandra Shekhar Great Leg Spin Bowler all the time
@bilalmirmir2915
@bilalmirmir2915 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how one can imagine greatest bowlers when there is no warn and no murali
@paulnorris2756
@paulnorris2756 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting list and it gives hard facts that cannot be ignored. My only query is that it refers a lot to times when the game was very different. I think a cut-off at 1914 would make sense. It also depends on how you define a fast bowler. Anderson should be in there surely? Terrific posting nevertheless and thank you very much for doing it. Really interesting.
@crickstats
@crickstats 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your ideas
@keithcampbell6806
@keithcampbell6806 2 жыл бұрын
A fast bowler should be at 90 mph and above. English is a very hard language even for some which is their first language.
@jagjeevanram1
@jagjeevanram1 4 ай бұрын
Hall,Grifith,Joel garner.
@nickprohoroff3720
@nickprohoroff3720 2 жыл бұрын
It was all real up until #1 & #2. Thats when stats become inversley redundant.
@shahbazkhan5573
@shahbazkhan5573 2 жыл бұрын
What criteria has been adopted as great fast bowlers like Jimmy Anderson, Kapil Dev & Shoib Akhter are not included.
@realtalkmediatv3153
@realtalkmediatv3153 2 жыл бұрын
Walsh and Kapil dev must be in such a list
@YTChiefCritic
@YTChiefCritic Ай бұрын
This is a very good list encompassing the WHOLE era of test cricket, yet we have idiots who know nothing about Cricket History making the usual stupid remarks based on their IGNORANCE of the players of the past.
@donavansimms9097
@donavansimms9097 Жыл бұрын
Everyone couldn't be on this listed, so if your favourite bowlers are not on it doesn't mean they are not considered greats
@donovansampson6698
@donovansampson6698 Жыл бұрын
A couple of who would be left out, walsh Murlinteran, Warne
@MrDunkiep
@MrDunkiep 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Anderson....oooooh.... Jimmy Jimmy.
@lramesh9
@lramesh9 9 ай бұрын
There could be some kind of Bug in process which has not listed many greats
@sanjaydamle6194
@sanjaydamle6194 Жыл бұрын
Cheaters Waqar and Wasim ahead of Joel and Michael, not acceptable.
@bjayyy
@bjayyy 2 жыл бұрын
This list not good enough. Kapil dev was a world record holder for many years and picked more wickets than most bowlers in this list. Even Dennis lillee ranked him above imran Marshall Hadley and botham The great thing about him was that he used to bowl without any support from other side. Batsmen did not play under pressure when playing against kapil. Most of the bowlers in this list had equally good bowlers supporting from other end to keep incessant pressure on batsmen
@paulgoodman7975
@paulgoodman7975 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to add Jeff Thompson and Andy Robert's to the list. I would not add Courtney Walsh he was a hardworking plodder but not a great
@malikyasir6538
@malikyasir6538 3 ай бұрын
Shoaib akhter ,,shan bond ,,lee ,,waqar Younis,, vass great bowler
@kennethcrowther2277
@kennethcrowther2277 2 жыл бұрын
It's still a pretty good list to be fair and you certainly have most of the most important and best names on there for sure. It's good to do lists of the very greatest as you have done, but I personally, as a cricket tragic and total nerd, like to make lists of what I guess you could call the minor greats. Bowlers who have achieved world class performance over a long period without quite having the impact of those very greatest. It's a long list but it's still a cool look at wonderful bowlers, who have admittedly had their ups and downs, but hey that's cricket for you. The great leveller. My list of them, who I haven't mentioned as yet in my previous comments includes Brian Statham, Sturat Broad, Darren Gough, Andrew Caddick, Andrew Flintoff, Matthew Hoggard, John Snow, Chaminda Vaas, Javagal Srinath, Ishant Sharma, Mohammed Shami, Wesley Hall, Charlie Griffiths, Kemar Roach, Shaoib Akhtar, Mohammed Asif, Lasith Malinga, Fazal Mahmood, Morne Morkel, Jaques Kallis, Vernon Philander, Jeff Thomson, Craig McDermott, Bruce Reid, Merv Hughes, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Johnson, Heath Streak, Mitchell Starc, Josh Hazelwood, Colin Croft, Ian Bishop, Jason Gillespie, Terry Alderman, Chris Cairns, Neil Wagner, Trent Boult, Tim Southee, Graham Dilley, Graham McKenzie, Jack Cowie, Peter Pollock, Mike Procter, Clive Rice, Garth Let Roux, Vince Van der Bijl. Some of them South Africans who didn't get to play much (if any) test cricket but who would've be superb test bowlers had they done. Some other names who achieved less but we're a bit unlucky statistically given how good they really were include Umar Gul, Danny Morrison, Angus Fraser, Geoff Lawson, Richard Collinge, Chris Martin, Wayne Daniel, Winston Davis, Sylvester Clarke, Umesh Yadav. I know, the list could go on, but they're all wonderful bowlers. Some of the current crop are seriously good as well, such as Hasan Ali, Mohammed Abbas, Shaheen Afridi, Jason Holder, Jayden Seals, Kyle Jameson, Matt Henry, Jofra Archer, Ben Stokes, Lungi Ngidi, Anrich Nortge, Mustifaza Rahman, etc, and many more yound talents coming out of India, Pakistan, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, England and the West Indies. Even Sri Kanka, not noted for producing great pace bowlers, look like they could be producing a couple of pretty exciting ones too.
@crickstats
@crickstats 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your valuable ideas
@balajipandurangi4740
@balajipandurangi4740 2 жыл бұрын
Sir also add Our great Kapildev
@cz2604
@cz2604 2 жыл бұрын
Simon Jones if you have some of the others.
@kennethcrowther2277
@kennethcrowther2277 Жыл бұрын
@@cz2604 sure
@kennethcrowther2277
@kennethcrowther2277 Жыл бұрын
@@balajipandurangi4740 oh did I not? Of course Kapil is way wat up that list.
@roosters1711
@roosters1711 2 жыл бұрын
What a load of rubbish. I stopped at Lillee at 17. The person who did this has NFI
@williamalexander9485
@williamalexander9485 2 жыл бұрын
This list needs to be done by era instead of being open ended. It makes certain comparisons absurd. Can’t compare players from the 1800s to players if the 2000s 🤨They played far fewer games, with different rules etc. Eras would give a more accurate analysis
@gebirg1
@gebirg1 2 ай бұрын
Did I black out while watching this and miss James Anderson, the fast bowler with most test wickets?
@vp82vps
@vp82vps 2 жыл бұрын
Muralitharan, Shane Warne, Anil Kumble, Great Kapil Dev,
@rammoorthydr2307
@rammoorthydr2307 Жыл бұрын
Kapil Dev is anytime better than others to be included in Top 15
@mellowmonsoon278
@mellowmonsoon278 6 ай бұрын
Put whatever the order you want. But if you say that I have to bet my house on a test game to and I have to pick an eleven. The first 2 fast bowlers I pick would be Wasim and Marshal. You can have everyone else you want. 😂
@hasnaintejani9307
@hasnaintejani9307 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Jeff Thompson of Australia not listed but Denis Liley is?
@waynemitchell1076
@waynemitchell1076 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. But I'd like to know how this ranking was achieved. There doesn't seem to be any logic to it.
@syedhussain55
@syedhussain55 2 жыл бұрын
List without Kapil. Really it reflects the insufficient knowledge of the person. Please study cricket before taking up these task.
@Landofhim
@Landofhim 2 жыл бұрын
top 5 Malcolm Marshall Glenn McGrath Richard Hadlee Dale Steyn Curtly Ambrose Marshall was one of the top 5 cricketers of all time, has to be no 1 and by some margin.
@Danny310563
@Danny310563 2 жыл бұрын
I would agree with that except Lillee has to be top 5 better than Steyn by plenty IMO
@stewartmcmanus3991
@stewartmcmanus3991 Жыл бұрын
Jimmy Anderson, Stuart Broad, Brett Lee, Shoab Aktar, Jeff Thompson, Frank Tyson, Harold Larwood and a dozen more. Who compiled this ridiculous list?
@inoidontknow
@inoidontknow 2 жыл бұрын
sir can u put the ball speed also wherever possible
@naadaumeuphonicskedardighe6336
@naadaumeuphonicskedardighe6336 2 жыл бұрын
Probably unfair to judge very old test players. But bowlers impact from team perspective important. To see Lillee so low down is shocking. He was more impactful then McGrath. No place for Roberts and Kapil Dev is again glaring. Anderson and Botham?
@stupendous1068
@stupendous1068 2 жыл бұрын
Botham and Dev should have made this list, given the fact that Hadlee and Khan are both on here.
@michaelblake9738
@michaelblake9738 2 жыл бұрын
How is it possible to leave out courtney walch?
@theta29
@theta29 9 ай бұрын
According to Lara, Wasim Akram is the best fast bowler all time by far....
@maharajaudiolabs7866
@maharajaudiolabs7866 2 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation. The flow of information timing is fantastic. All legends. But many more are missing.
@CunningPlanBaldrick
@CunningPlanBaldrick 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody who knows cricket put this together.
@stn5295
@stn5295 2 жыл бұрын
There should at least be a cut off of 50 tests minimum.
@flamingfrancis
@flamingfrancis 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair you have to realise that some greats played in an era when less than five tests per annum were played. They spent much more time travelling than playing.
@stn5295
@stn5295 2 жыл бұрын
@@flamingfrancis Then their names should not be there with players who have played close to 100 tests. Absolutely unfair !!
@MarkBlackwood-vm9bs
@MarkBlackwood-vm9bs 10 ай бұрын
Much easier to get batsman out on damp uncovered wickets.
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