What IMPACT will Ardie Savea's SHOCK SWITCH have? | The Breakdown, July 21, 2024

[@AllBlacks]

Who's excited to see Ardie line up for Moana Pasifika in 2025?

[@ignisraendl3721]

go well Ardie. nothing wrong with him playing for Moana Pacifica and the ABs. a lot of ABs of Islander decent. strengthening those ties will make us all stronger. imo anyways.

[@fatubreenimarota]

Wohoo! Ardie will provide good leadership there! Go hard Ardie Malō lava!!!

[@multipletanksyndrome]

Tana Umaga

[@Revelation14315]

Thanks Ardie 💪🙏

[@lga-jm6it]

MP was supposed to give players from the islands a shot. So far it’s just a system for watering down the New Zealand and to a lesser extent Australia born and raised player pool and keeping Pacifica New Zealanders like Levi Amua away from big sponsorships and contracts.

[@James-jj5jh]

Absolutely why wouldn’t he support his pacific brothers. To support the growth for pacific rugby and inspire other pacific players as a role model- Giving back. Good on him.

[@whtwht]

100%

[@Revelation14315]

👍👍👍

[@Tiki63]

Yes man!..good on him

[@damowalsh43]

Moana Pasifika needs more players like him to boost the team

[@zereneedmonds3955]

Agree

[@roleinc7204]

Ardie is a legend. Playing with someone like him with his drive and ferocity will provide awesome learnings for his Pasifika team mates. Who doesn't want to see the Super Rugby competition more competitive? Who doesn't want to see that filter into the Samoan and Tongan national team? I know that I do.

[@sdaniel413]

Great news for Ardie! He plays for family, culture and the closest thing to playing for Samoa.. and even better he can still play for the Mighty AB's!!...Good on you uso

[@carlomac]

Best episode of the break down in ages. Loved seeing Marshall in there, he’s awesome.

[@surendemel8297]

Yup

[@hamishcraig6999]

Agree, he is much more articulate, uses good English, and speaks up with commonsense.

[@SouthAfricaMCtours]

The following comment is from a South African, so please take it with a pinch of New Zealand salt or indeed green lipped mussels as you prefer. I had to have a laugh at JK's comment about Ardie moving to Moa. The incredible amount of unsubtle disrespect for Ardie & his culture was gob-smacking. His move is great for 'his culture', his game and yes... will still be contracted to play for the 'Main-Island' until 2027... He should be respected after an entire career with the Hurricanes, incredible duty to the Black jersey and a fantastic servant of the game in general.

[@paulmitchell6485]

His comments were about the money side of it, was it hard to understand?

[@SouthAfricaMCtours]

@@paulmitchell6485 it was exactly that which elicited my response... Ardie deserves all he gets... Moa is (1) NZ based; (2) Ardie wants to give back to his people. (3) He still wears the Black Jersey!!! (4) HE DESERVES WHAT IS DUE TO HIM FINANCIALLY!!! Perhaps you didn't fully understand what I said?!

[@silkyman_mafs]

Yep JK was being a prick

[@vancemcallister9649]

Marshal - more of him pls. Quality points and thought processes

[@jameshickling2641]

all these "experts" suggesting Will Jordan on a wing.....Only Justin Marshall knows.....Will Jordan is a FB, without a shadow of a doubt! Razor will play him at FB

[@thefobbie0034]

They are making their selections based on accommodation rather that the selection of the best player! This is why we NO longer have the best 7 in the world playing 7 anymore! Its a JOKE!

[@axxey]

Shouldn't be there at all until next year. That being said, ideally you want 2 fullbacks on the field, or at least 1 of your wingers able to kick. Picking 1 dimensional Reece/Clark/Telea in the same team made no sense in the first place. Selections have been aimed at him coming back or we would have Ruben Love playing and a 10 cover selected instead of halfway neither Perofeta.

[@icefarrow7959]

​@@thefobbie0034Savea was never a good 7, he's a far better 8. Also, wtf are you smoking to eveb suggest the best player in the world at 8 should be at 7?

[@thefobbie0034]

@@icefarrow7959 IF you had bothered to note that Savea is a 7 especially when he started in the ABs as cover for Cane BUT should have been selected ahead of Cane! The only reason why Savea went to 8 or 6 was because Hansen and Foster could not ignore the fact that they should start him hence accommodating for Cane! Allow me to quote some stats for Savea at 7 1) Ball-carrys ave 12 per game 2) Tackles ave 10-12 per game 3) Turnovers ave 5-6 per game NO one comes close to those stats except McCaw! This is how much you know about rugby - 1) no.8 is what you call a power player in the loose forwards who gets over the advantage line for his forwards 2) Savea is NOT a power player because of the exceptional skils set he has 3) no.8 is a ball-carrier into heavy traffic - Savea is not that because Savea is a lethal open play runner 4) Savea's ability to link with his backs and create an attack These are all no.7 features NOT 8! Did I say that Savea is the best 7 in the world from 8 OR did I say that Savea is the best 7 when playing at 7 - try reading exercises you're need of it! Savea is a 7 NOT an 8 - we are wasting this athleticism and skillset at 8!

[@OuttheGate114]

​@@thefobbie0034we haven't had the best 7 in the world since Richie McCaw. PSTD from South Africa is the best 7 in the world

[@leighcrawley3749]

Whateva decision a man makes...it is his own...btwn him and God. Ardie deserves nothing but respect. Kiwis will love and hate him and the NZ badgering machine will kick in to try and break the man down....as if they own him. Kia Kaha Ardie - We Love You ❤

[@f1j11slander4]

Well said 👏🏾💯

[@Revelation14315]

👍💪🙏💯

[@zereneedmonds3955]

How could someone even call themselves a Kiwi if they were to hate on Ardie he has been amazing for the canes and ABS great player really humble

[@michaelmoynihan9591]

Kikagokikahkiskiiiiiaahaookiaho9poooòòjj😅😅😅

[@iallso1]

At 9 if Ratima and Perinara are both fit I would pick Hotham ahead of Christie, because Christie was too slow between rucks for the game the ABs want to play. And when Roigard is over his injury he comes in and replaces Perinara so we have 3 young talented 9s developing towards the next RWC.

[@petegibson863]

Time for Sam Cane to bow out gracefully , plenty of super talented number 7's showing their hands , please don't go backwards , go forward !

[@kjr2868]

I thought Justin Marshall was making a lot of sense with his analysis and commentary! I agree with his point that the ABs are a better team when they look at just the next match/battle ahead!!

[@Buster62]

You beat a rush defense by running it up the guts and getting 5-10m over the advantage line so the defense can't set and is offside before delivering quick ball to the backs. The backs can then play space (in hand ball, attacking the weak shoulder, and tactical/contestable kicking) supported by a loosie or two. The ABs are developing some monster front-rowers with good hands and athletic second-rowers with the required mongrel. The back row balance needs to be found...Ardie/Blackadder at 7, Pinau/Papali'i at 6, and Sititi/Jacobson at 8. Sam Cane will need to show a good super season t get back in. Christie's delivery and pass is too slow for this style of play...the future is Roigard, Ratima and Hotham. Keep TJ in the squad for now. Rieko does not have the eye for space or kicking required to be a stand-out international center.

[@cheslingrootboom9650]

This is one of the best comments in a while...couldn't agree more with your take...

[@JoBarnett-me3gt]

Spot on

[@marnixhoebers5176]

Ireland are currently using a similar play style. First receiver has 2 pass options on both sides and they are all running straight through the gap.

[@danielhenson9280]

100%

[@axxey]

I agree with the rush defense comment. The blues forwards centric style would have eaten england for breakfast(and I'm not a blues fan), just with up front tactics, repeat crash and any offload is then in the backfield. Zero blues backs other than Clark have shown form to be selected(and they have had opportunities despite Blues playstyle). I don't agree with selecting Beaudan/Ardie/Jordan/Cane at all with no play time.(no matter what they play like) It's not like we don't have player depth everywhere but lock. NZ rugby paying them has to play them, at the expense of developing players at the best time, far from a world cup. Razor covering his ass with conservatism.

[@JulianShawofficial]

Loving Marshy’s attitude. Winning every game should always be the goal for the ABs.

[@rob-kiwi3997]

Justin Marshall nailed it.... win every test

[@MW-sw6ou]

Marshal is always on point and as a commentary🖤

[@honeheke1128]

Listen to Ardie interview with the morning shift, puts everything in perspective...and how many other players will he attract, best rugby news, mean Ardie.

[@nvwcj22]

Never thought I'd say this but Justin makes sense on the panel here lol. 😂 I like him better on the panel than commentating!

[@tonygardiner2791]

You go Ardie, 👍👍great move for you, your whanau, Moana Pasifika, the AB's and the Canes... agree with Jeff and Justin, stop being so selfish JK , its not about you and how you feel or what you experienced in your playing days

[@zereneedmonds3955]

Much love Ardie wish you nothing but the best you have been amazing for the canes and ABS would love to see moana Pacifica with a great team and proforming we'll they deserve it

[@OuttheGate114]

Jeff Wilson is wrong the differences wasn't the dry field and ball. Its the rush defence. Fiji didn't have it so it gave us the extra time and space. Would love to see Dalton at 6 get him playing like Kaino

[@rodeo4786]

JK made a comment of well grounded 🎉sense the makeup of the loose forwards Blackadder 7 Papalii 6 Savea 8 the more its scrutinized the more it actually ticks the boxes

[@Billcali]

Love Justin Marshalls input.

[@Es-co5ef]

Lol I thought he was switching to NRL man he would have been a gun lock 13. Moana Pasefika what a great move for Rugby and our Pacific nations. So many positives and an unselfish decision. Malo Uso

[@stylesoftware]

Thank you, finally for mentioning it, Rieko needs to learn to pass the effing ball. I don't even believe he can read the opposition and space correctly. He's just massively talented at breaking the front line. This line breaking would be world breaking if he could pass it at the correct time.

[@MarijanManuel]

Billy Proctor has been a great player for a few seasons now and he just showed cased why he should be 13 in ABs jersey. Guys like Stevenson and Bryce Heem need to take note of Billy Proctor how he grab his opportunity its a great example of showing u want it!

[@essenceofsa]

Marshy is very underrated and maybe under appreciated as a commentator. He's got great insight

[@lovemysport7902]

Given that Ardie has extended with the ABs through to RWC27 & making himself available during that entire period, I would say that Ardie signing for Moana Pasifika was all done with the agreement/support/funding of the NZR just like the deal with Jordie to Leinster for a season. For Ardie, it is almost like a sabbatical but within the shores of NZ whilst assisting those of his heritage. Ardie will still be available to the NZR/ABs be they tours, mid season/week camps etc. Ardie will help the development of Moana Pasifika from both a playing perspective of both individuals & numbers across all of the islands & a commercial perspective, bums on seats, advertising etc. It’s a win win situation for Ardie, NZR, Moana Pasifika & the SRP. What I haven’t seen (yet) is how long Ardie has signed for with Moana Pasifika be it 1 year or 3 years and/or whether or not Ardie will be subject to ‘AB Rest Weeks’ etc as you would expect Ardie to be the first name on the team sheet for each Moana Pasifika game & to bear the brunt of the responsibility to lift the Moana Pasifika team to a higher level.

[@danie1468]

Marshall great to see you on the panel, one of the most balanced rugby brains in New Zealand, you and Tim from the UK, worth listen to.

[@harleylyons1889]

Surly we just allow players to play for any Super Rugby team and still be eligible for the ABs and Wallabies? Similar to the NRL? Just my opinion.

[@bigceasar169]

Ezactly spread the talent pool around to make it more competitive and exciting, then that attracts bums onb seats. So I'm with you on that one

[@harleylyons1889]

@@bigceasar169 100% Imagine BB lining up for the Reds or Fraser McReight for the Highlanders!! Player movement is healthy for the game. Thinking that everything revolves around the ABs will continue to take interest away from the Super Rugby product.

[@thefobbie0034]

I disagree - it will take away the most vital component for the ABs and Wallabies - cohesion in terms of combination development! That is why Ireland are so strong because the majority of the team play for 2 provinces - Munster and Leinster!

[@Daymaa302]

​@@thefobbie0034no no their strong for all the NZ influence bundi and Lowe left when chiefs back to back SR WON so no Ireland didn't do it alone

[@thefobbie0034]

@@Daymaa302 With respect BUT you are incorrect! Your reply is nothing short of arrogance to simply suggest that the Irish team achievements and one of the top teams in the world is because they have Super Rugby champion kiwis in the team! OUTRAGEOUS - do you seriously believe that!

[@SimonReid-u4v]

Great news for Ardie, more surprising is Justin Marshall one seat closer to hosting the show.

[@johnnyblakelock4745]

Lets win everything. Thats the mindset. Cheehoo. ALLBACKEVERYTHING!!!

[@Revelation14315]

Just keep winning 💪

[@henrypretorius1440]

It will also be a good idea to bring back Argentina and add Japan to the competition. It will grow rugby all round and bring more competitive and exciting World Cup's

[@CoopMauKona]

Agree that all the players who started are meant to compete. Proctor added something we need. Maybe Reiko goes to the bench and can cover wing and center for example. Or Proctor off the bench and Reiko to wing. Add in Richie, Will Jordan and we can have 23 man squad that are all playing at the top level, that's how we're going to get back on top.

[@andrewbere-adams2410]

Here's my view on this. Most in rugby have always maintained that how you behave on field is representative of how you behave off field. The two are not exclusive. Committed, collaborative, supportive and tolerant are all traits of the greatest in sport. I don't think the significance of this has been truly recognised as it will take time to sink in but, it's a selfless act. Can you imagine a Premiership soccer player dropping down to the bottom of the league. Not really. I'm pretty sure that many others are looking at themselves and really asking 'would I do the same thing?' It's what world rugby needs, and I really hope that it gets the response that it deserves. It's up to world rugby to capitalise on this, without making it out to be something that it's not. The real question is not why would he do this but, why wouldn't he.

[@Me-ex7qg]

Smart move. Now he can take a 3 week holiday during the play-offs

[@matthewdanna8800]

Marshy is a legend… win every game indeed 💯

[@poerava]

People out here saying Jordie and Reiko should be on the bench lol Stop the cap. This is fiji.

[@rodeo4786]

💯% it does not matter who the centre pairing is England is too clinically astute defensively to allow the time and space and we all know what SA bring to the fight

[@poerava]

@@rodeo4786 Exactly

[@James-jj5jh]

Great analysis guys

[@MrAhuapai]

The future of Moana Pasifika is not set in concrete. There is only room for 5 franchises in NZ and as a result MP will continue to struggle . They have not attracted Pacific players back from Europe which means they have diluted the overall pool of players .

[@derricknanai62]

I doubt the European boys will come to Moana they probably make way more over there than them playing for Moana

[@thefobbie0034]

@@derricknanai62 They would IF there was a Tongan Super Rugby team and a Samoan Super Rugby team!

[@Daymaa302]

@@derricknanai62 i don't think he meant Europeans bring all the Pacific players back home and let them play for the country they love and the people they love watching a Taulagi play for England is just wrong the poms are racists only want us when we are great at sports otherwise the rest of us just dolebludging

[@icefarrow7959]

​@@thefobbie0034And whos going to pay for that, huh? Two governments who barely have money or infrastructure. Good luck with that.

[@richardscanlan3419]

@@icefarrow7959 no,if it happened,you can be sure it would be NZR who would be expected to foot the bill.

[@AndreCillie]

Wonderful move . Well done Ardie give back brother will be massive success

[@brucesherborne408]

Damien at 10, Barrett and Jordan share full back

[@matthewviliamu2679]

Can see and hear JKs point. It’s not actually so much about Ardie being there. It’s more about the bulk of the squad who aren’t coming from a pathway straight from the islands

[@babu7141]

Not sure why they are hung up on Rieko and passing........in the second England game he had 4 opportunities to pass however that would have left the winger very isolated, IMO. Sometimes it's better to go into contact. Plus Marshall states it wasnt only him not passing so why pick on him? I find that Jordi not passing is a bigger issue. He should be setting up Rieko for line breaks but he is always going into contact and Rieko is usually having to clean out for him. Also, the Fiji game is flattering the debutants. If you don't think that is the case, then think about when Anton Lienert Brown came on vs England in the second game. Impressive against Fiji, but can you remember anything he did against England, despite coming on when England were tired.........

[@joeydudester1]

Excellent points made. I too as perplexed with Marshy's criticism of Reiko, yet you can clearly see the danger he imposes when he's on attack. He's matured, he's taking the ball without firing a 50/50 pass if he can't see opportunities. I too don't understand the stupid criticism.

[@rodeo4786]

Why Reiko is under the microscope. sure there's parts vs england that could've should've but then the entire backline was under extreme duress including the pack Fiji naturally afforded the run-on 15 the conditions to assert and therefore express themselves Proctor is the classic 13 no probs he needs a hitout against a tier 1 now if the rolls were reversed vs England ( the best blitz defense bar none ) he'd get stopped dead in his tracks because the Abs just couldn't break the vice-grip until well into the 2nd half

[@thefobbie0034]

Spot on - the issue is NOT the player but the attacking system that the ABs are adopting against a umbrella rush defensive system! We are playing a pattern POD game that is flat and with width that is creating time for the out to in defensive system to pick us off the longer the pass! Cannot understand how these guys don't see that!

[@axxey]

Reiko not being able to offload or defend and bad ball security all the time is not a new thing, it was bizarre when he was moved to 13 in the first place. None of the blues backs apart from Clark have had the form in their core roles to be selected.

[@colinmeehan791]

The issue is he ALWAYS goes into contact.

[@markrutherford6010]

We need halfbacks who’s passing is fast and accurate.Ratima should be the starting halfback. Christie and Perenara passing is too slow.Our backline didn’t operate efficiently because of Christie and Perenara. People are blaming Jordie and Rieko but real problem is halfback. Ratima passing is fast and accurate.The backline operates better when he is on the field. Our line outs are big problem too.Sam Darry needs to start against Argentina. Will Jordan scored 31 test tries playing outside of Rieko.Maybe Rieko is not as bad as what people think.

[@matthewviliamu2679]

It’s different if we know a guy is leaving before a World Cup cycle. There is literally no point playing Sam Cane because we can win without him. Any benefit of learning how to win with Sam is lost because it’s only gonna be for a couple games. And……he was captain when we had one of our worst winning percentages lol.

[@zereneedmonds3955]

Agree but you know how we are we like to let that players that have been there for so long play till they leave stupid imo especially with all the hungry talented players we have at the moment

[@rizzmain2232]

Lol southafrica do it. So why not keep the old heads and keep trying. They been Successful at it

[@matthewviliamu2679]

@@rizzmain2232 don’t really care what South Africa do and I’ve explained why not in my original post

[@PF-vu2gd]

Totally agree with Marshall and Wilson about Savea 's move to Moana Pacific...

[@GeorgeJames-o5y]

Agree with you Marshall, Blackadder is a good distributor.

[@AC-hu3xk]

Good to C JM from South Africa.❤

[@CorneViviers]

JK, what are you so worried about? Ardie is gonna find a way to excel his game even further and you've got 22 other All Blacks on match day to help you win the game. Back Ardie because I believe he can do it. He's a machine. From S.A

[@karlknocker7007]

I love that...the worlds best player...in your opinion should have followed.Heads buried in the sand.

[@278fede]

In te center I would like to see Jordi + Anton or Proctor. These guys can gave you the x factor in small space. The strength of Reiko I believe is in open spaces

[@thefobbie0034]

Very hard to make such a call when Proctor has NOT faced the Irish, Springboks or English defensive system! The issue is that as long as we continue to persist with the running rugby patterns at a flat depth and width we will continue to struggle against the umbrella rush defense NO matter you have at centre!

[@rizzmain2232]

​@thefobbie0034 rubbish . Rekio ain't scored a try since over a year.. Billy has done 2x more he is more hungry .step aside rekio your time is done.

[@caintindal1671]

Got to remember it does not matter what team players play for in the Super Rugby Pacific as it does not change their nationality at all and it is a fanchise just like all other Super Rugby teams. If NZ teams and Fiji and Moano did not look at one or two rebels players playing for them well they lost a hugh chance and mistake. I reckon their would be 8 good players who could not find spots in the four sides that Australia have now and may now play for them.

[@DD-so4po]

I like Justin Mashall no hanky panky like others do, straight to point and find solution boldly without giving unnecessary recognition. What exactly said Mashall said Hurricane played season without Ardie Savia. Any difference? They made towards finals one if the best performance. He is old, might as well form another, there are many to take up. One point he hast to go ABs move forward. Don't worry Scott Robertson knows his onions well.

[@Sam-c5k8r]

Interesting point by JK about Ardie worrying about doing all the wxtra stuff. Does anyone else think this has happened to Jordie B..? His defence is so up there but his attack has completely changed. He’s now playing like a loose forward as well, put him in 5 and have a tall jumper

[@278fede]

I would like to see Ardi as 7, Papali or Black as 6, and Sititi as 8

[@thefobbie0034]

Papali'i is over-rated! I agree with you with Savea at 7 - its crazy they are not playing him there! My selections are: 6s - Ioane, Finau, Gardiner 7s - Savea, Du Plesis, Christie 8s - Sotutu, Grace, Sititi

[@earlehart2123]

Come on JK, let the man be, he will still be the best player in the world and not tied to old ideas like colonialism, capitalism and misery, he's strengthening our pacific roots and bonds by being an ambassador for rugby just like many others who have played and made the ABs the greatest team ever.

[@n81ne]

He’s already have the dosh, time to give back 💪🏽

[@sameerdean9356]

For me the back row I would want to see atleast play a test in the championship is Savea at 7 Sotutu at 8 and Jacobsen at 6 I think that is a really balanced back row with 2 good line out options and all 3 I think are really good at getting turnovers but Jacobsen can also be replaced with Blackadder I think they are similar in the way they play

[@ljawgtn1393]

Not really our business who is payin' what and/or how much. We have had many great players from the Pacific Islands, so fair I s'pose, Let's be honest though, losing the World Player of the Year is a downer for Wellington, as it would be for any team. .........Bring back Ardie!! 💛🖤

[@Sebastjens]

I may sound like a simp, but I really dig Kirsty's laugh.

[@DTOPShows]

JK Looking good without glasses, and AB's looking hot again. Can't wait for the real-world heavyweight's BOKKE v ALL BLAC's facing off soon. Regards from Springbok Land💚BOKKE💚

[@ljawgtn1393]

Me too & back at ya 🖤

[@mattchapman3226]

Wow Ardie is the man that’s great

[@DD-so4po]

Justin you are awesome strategic man.. I really like you

[@Damudean]

Havilli does need games in hand to get in form. And I think ALB showed he is more than capable to put pressure on Jordie

[@mezmania239]

drop jordie all together hes not that

[@Yeehaayolo]

When you're the best player not only in your country but the world, there should be NO issue here. Just finding something to moan about 🤷

[@poerava]

Let’s not forget, this was Fiji fam Don’t read too much into this test.

[@axxey]

All of these questions because the team against Fiji should have been played in the pressure cooker the week before. Every person played against Fiji has that built in excuse of "only fiji" to keep playing out of form players. Why did no one shut Marshall up as soon as he mentioned Havili, the absolute worst midfielder of the ENTIRE competition this year.

[@iallso1]

The All Blacks can't fall into the trap of only having one way of playing, once they do, opponents will soon work out how to deal with that style. Teams need to be able to adjust their plan to deal with what is in front of them, and that may mean changing the team to best deal with the opposition. New Zealand needs to bring on a raft of young talent, because they will bring different skill sets with them and that will provide options for the coaches. I have heard the pundits previously bemoaning squad rotation policies, but you need to pick different teams to meet the threats posed by different opponents.

[@joerongomaki5047]

You guys need to look at when you guys got in now it definitely

[@iallso1]

With the players that we have seen play this year I can't see Cane being in a squad of 42 let alone a squad of 36.

[@JennifersandraDavids]

Hey all ALL BLACK congrates for the wins ❤❤❤❤❤ please stay focused and so please take note the springboks get tiered so quick they can not run long destance s and for very long so take note of them kicking to the line and watch out for the coner kicks thats what they thrive on and not to talk about the panelties (free points) the love to get please be vigelant to the face that the like to fall like colby did in the game with IRELAND please review the games get farmilair with there game play .please if you would concider the bom squad the will come on to waist your time please take not of the bokkes gymnest SA 23 that guy is a wild cart loco guys look out for him

[@nicholascarlyle9270]

Justin marshall is spot on, JK is a bloody joke though

[@DavidLimofLimReport]

Has JK had Lasik? Or just wearing contacts That's the best thing Justin Marshall said re Sam Cane..you develop by winning. You can't worry about 2027 now.

[@Badlighter]

Can’t wait for the Olympics either. But Kirstie, why Woman’s 100 metres, when it’s the Men’s 100 metres? Keep up the great show

[@dazfromnz01]

Is Usain Bolt identifying as a woman this week 😊😊

[@fu8713]

Darry is like Whitelock and Retalick OLD SKOOL ALL BLACKS looks very promising so far Sititi Hotham Proctor They did what Reiko Christie haven’t done yet make big IMPACT

[@julianalderson3938]

Think you guys like the iccumbent i think proctor should start.

[@thedappercook]

I hope you dont mind me saying but I think its a career killer. I maybe 100% wrong.

[@misipalauntfjcfgriugdfgjmo8049]

I cringe every time John kirwan speaks. He's all over the show. Marshall spoke well.

[@stevenburrow8804]

You should make a reel of JK and Goldie's best/biggest disagreements

[@vailima49aston99]

Jef Wilson’s views on things are much more understandable then JKs and Justin is a halfback 😂

[@markrutherford6010]

Will Jordan is world class winger.I am not so sure he is world class fullback. At fullback you need to be good at both sides of the ball.Last line of defence,kicking skills. We know Beauden Barrett has those skills.

[@jonathanwise4047]

Islanders would love to play for their home countries but first thing first is providing for their family and that’s what John will never get coming from privilege, islander first loyalty is family not country but making sure their families are living as good as them. No matter Ardie will show no matter the status culture and loyalty will grow the pacific interest and potentially grow the income into our islands. John thinks ardie playing for Moana will affect his status but individually your own game will show. More polynesian talent being bought overseas and families supporting their kids decisions because they want better for their off spring and in return their off springs repay their family sacrifices. John doesn’t come from struggle so he will never understand, Polynesians born out of their home countries it don’t matter, ardie wants to grow his own game and test himself and pay respects to his culture. Make polynesians play for their home country and see how far NZ rugby lasts. John needs to sit down and realise that if more money was poured into pacific rugby teams, islander teams would be more prolific and dangerous from all these 1 tier teams

[@phillipmiga3961]

Sorry Jeff Wilson our green grass management were on leave they are back now it will be taken care of green and soft😊😊

[@henrypretorius1440]

Blackadder 6 Scott Barrett 7 Ardie 8 Then you open up to bring in a new lock pairing. What do guys think?

[@dazfromnz01]

Blackadder will be a 7

[@troyocarroll]

Do you mean Barrett at 6? I would like to see Ardie at 7, Barrett at 6 and Sititi at 8.

[@henrypretorius1440]

Yes sorry got numbers wrong

[@vvwalker7261]

Three of us here have been All Blacks.... One of these things just doesn't below here, one of these things just isn't the same 😂

[@jl2457]

Use footwork to beat rush defense easier than try to offload. Kiwi's or ABs naturally have the better foot work other than the Pacific Island teams. Just use that beat the rushing defence all day that way. Use foot work easy they won't rush anymore 2 steps to the side and they fly right past you!! D mack is better using foot work they will think twice about rushing after a few side steps and beating them. Even South Africa our guys can easily out step them they are big lugs and not very coordinated like the ABs traditionally always are.

[@itzpdah3525]

JK don’t be selfish. All the best Ardie !!

[@aza109954]

Is it better to bring Barrett on when everyone's tired?

[@zabaleta66]

MP forwards might be fit next year......

[@mixmastermootree]

JK shoulda just gone on the cavaliers tour with the racism he's displaying. never complained when a ginger played for the drua. never complained about julian joining moana.

[@mrwohtah3811]

I think ardie is the goat

[@DuncanStaunton]

Ardie will play for Samoa next rwc.He be beaten up by then.Sotiti be in his prime😮

[@amul7516]

john kirwan you have no understanding of the pacific diaspora - ardies move is massive for pacific rugby

[@aza109954]

Reiko can't always give last pass if there's an intercept on

[@alexhayllar1593]

justin marshall 3 of us have been all blacks ......legend

[@julianalderson3938]

The warriors have been better with some fowards not from nz. Rekon he will make em better cheers to em.

[@Cheeseoncrackas]

Having Aussie as one of the big 5 is pretty generous 😂

[@center__mass]

Jk . Jacobson ruled the lineouts smashed tackles and not a mention

[@hocake8242]

Marshall and Wilson are very good analytical technicians

[@albiebrown5957]

JK had to go to money question and who's paying who story, wow just wow This is the Jason Taumalolo story of rugby.