Slam Dunk | United Express Flight 6291

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Allec Joshua Ibay

Allec Joshua Ibay

Күн бұрын

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@gregfaris6959
@gregfaris6959 Жыл бұрын
As pilots, it is always grilled into us to have enough humility to NEVER say, "I wouldn't have let it happen....." But GEEZ guys!! To completely lose track of your airspeed on final? Every challenge, "Flaps 20" is met with the response "Speed checks". "Gear down", "Speed checks". Glideslope intercept "speed checks". It is the single most important parameter to be continuously monitored on any and every approach - so to just "forget" about it until you get a stickshaker is truly incomprehensible. I have written otherwise in this channel about the dangers of autopilots with vertical profile management but no control over power, which is a pure incongruity, however this is far worse than that. To get to the point where the aircraft is in full stall on short final without either pilot ever thinking to check the airspeed during the entire descent is really unfathomable.
@WendyKS93
@WendyKS93 Жыл бұрын
When the Captain asked Tony "what did you do" I was like "idiot you're suppose to know what he's doing." "You're suppose to be monitoring him." A Captain who is not experienced in that position and with two failures in one year paired with a new First Officer. Recipe for disaster, it's a miracle anyone survived. Thank you for another great video Mr. Allec. Enjoyed this.
@flycfm3205
@flycfm3205 Жыл бұрын
I worked for Atlantic Coast Airlines for over a decade. Flying these turboprops throughout the northeastern US was a challenging job but it made you a darn good pilot. Our pilot group back then was nothing short of stellar. Some of the best pilots I’ve ever flown with. However these two pilots were definitely an exception and shouldn’t have been in the cockpit of a Cessna 172 much less a Jetstream 41. It was our only fatality and changed how we did training and hiring. Just a couple years later the airline received a diamond award from the FAA. Sadly Atlantic Coast Airlines filed for bankruptcy in 2006 after ending its relationship with United and rebranding itself as Independence Air.
@B777Skipper
@B777Skipper Жыл бұрын
I also worked for ACA when this accident happened. Sadly, I still remember the faces of the 3 crew that worked that flight. I flew the J32 at ACA for over 3 years. A bit less complex aircraft then the J41 at the time, but with no autopilot on the J32, your hand flying skills and alertness to your situational awareness were always elevated.
@TimPerfetto
@TimPerfetto Жыл бұрын
I worked for backruptcy in 2006. However, flying these two after ending its relationship was nothing short of stellar.
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
@@B777Skipper I wonder if I flew with you back in mid march of 1994 did you fly PHL to EWR or EWR to IAD? The good old days, when the cockpit door was open and passengers could see the pilots flying, which I actually liked and found interesting!
@grafhilgenhurst9717
@grafhilgenhurst9717 Жыл бұрын
So did ice have anything to do with it, or was it just leaving the throttles at idle while the autopilot struggled to regain the glideslope?
@flycfm3205
@flycfm3205 Жыл бұрын
@@grafhilgenhurst9717 it was just flat out poor airmanship. Icing had nothing to do with it.
@ossiemac
@ossiemac Жыл бұрын
Nothing short of amazing that the family survived that crash with only minor injuries!
@npxmnpxm
@npxmnpxm Жыл бұрын
L.A. TIMES (JAN. 9, 1994): A family of three walked away with only minor injuries from a fiery plane crash that killed the other five people on board, officials said. The British Aerospace Jetstream 41, which can carry 29 passengers, crashed Friday night about half a mile from Port Columbus International Airport, where it was preparing to land after a flight from Washington, D.C. All three crew members and two passengers were killed. The survivors were 5-year-old Yee Sun Lai; her father, Ki Ping Lai, 45; and her mother, Siew Chew Ling, 43, all from Taiwan, said Mark Hopkins, spokesman at Mt. Carmel East Hospital in Columbus. All were treated for minor injuries and released. The plane hit the ground in a wooded area, cartwheeled about 300 feet into a single-story, cinder block building and caught fire, a highway patrol trooper said.
@megadavis5377
@megadavis5377 Жыл бұрын
I think most pilots would agree that speed is life. It's like oxygen to the body. It's everything. When on takeoff, climbout and approach, most pilots reference their airspeed indicators every five seconds - at least. Don't you? And during the last couple of miles on an approach that reference time decreases to about every two or three seconds until you cross the runway threshold. I just can't imagine both of these guys being completely unaware of the steadily decreasing airspeed. It boggles the mind.
@CAPEjkg
@CAPEjkg Жыл бұрын
So frustrating to see these type of incidents. Letting the airspeed drop to stall speed and realizing it to late behind the power curve. Just utterly frustrating some pilots lose track of basic flying skills. Love the channel and thank you for ALL the effort it takes to put these videos together.
@roberthagedorn290
@roberthagedorn290 Жыл бұрын
The captain's last word was "Whoa" three seconds before impact with the building. I don't know what to think about that. Three people survived. That's amazing too. I can't imagine there being much left at the crash site that would indicate the existence of an airplane, just pieces here and there.
@tedunderhill9718
@tedunderhill9718 Жыл бұрын
The entire thing was anything but confidence inspiring. It's bad enough these days with "everything" going on. I have two good friends that are competent pilots, one AA one United. But watching some of these videos makes me wonder who the hell's all up there.
@Chicken_Nugget1
@Chicken_Nugget1 Жыл бұрын
All he had time to say as he realised control was lost while trying to regain it.
@jamesmelcher9355
@jamesmelcher9355 Жыл бұрын
I’m particularly impressed with your work on this one, Allec. You did a super job explaining *why* the actions taken were a problem, and what should have been done instead, in clear, understandable fashion. Well done! Sometimes I watch these videos and think there is no way the pilots will get out of trouble, but they do. In this one, I kept thinking until the landing approach, “This all seems pretty normal…what’s going to go wrong that it’s on Allec’s channel?” And then…
@m.d.5463
@m.d.5463 Жыл бұрын
You just wrote what I thought by myself. Everything seemed ok to me, until ...
@kentjarvis2292
@kentjarvis2292 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t do nuthin. I didn’t think I would ever hear that phrase from a pilot.
@charlesjohansen1716
@charlesjohansen1716 Жыл бұрын
THIS video is why i get a little nervous flying regional carriers.
@donnabaardsen5372
@donnabaardsen5372 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, me too.
@robertd7073
@robertd7073 Жыл бұрын
not gonna lie they put the idiots and the newbies in the turbo props.
@waffle911
@waffle911 Жыл бұрын
I'm more nervous about higher-hours pilots who remain in small turboprops despite their experience than relatively new pilots who still have fresh schooling in them and are actively making their way upwards.
@jeremypearson6852
@jeremypearson6852 Жыл бұрын
I hear what you’re saying, but even pilots with many hours and years of experience have made fundamental mistakes flying big aircraft. That to me is even more concerning.
@robertd7073
@robertd7073 Жыл бұрын
@@waffle911 yes! was gonna say that also. Beware of the silver hair pilots who retire on turbo props, they will get you hurt..
@pcbondart
@pcbondart Жыл бұрын
jeeeeze, a lot of this is BASIC stuff!
@cindysavage265
@cindysavage265 Жыл бұрын
This accident was well covered here and the Aircraft Disasters program on the Smithsonian Channel. As John Nance said on the show, the minute the pilots retracted the flaps, the accident became inevitable.
@jjohn9011
@jjohn9011 Жыл бұрын
I really like that you are recreating situations where the pilots overcame problems which resulted in safe landings or minimal injuries. Pilots don’t get the credit they should for dealing with adverse situations where their skills and professionalism kept them off the nightly news.
@ontheroadagainwithvinny931
@ontheroadagainwithvinny931 Жыл бұрын
After watching many of these types of videos I am always astounded when there's a delay reacting to the stick-shaker. You'd think the first response would be power, get out of the situation and then review what happened?
@slyguyaction
@slyguyaction Жыл бұрын
I'm not a pilot but the approach obviously isn't stabilized and something is amiss. First thing I'd do is add power, initiate a go-around and assess what's going on. I agree
@jerrymarbury9365
@jerrymarbury9365 Жыл бұрын
On the road I'm with you,I guess they don't experience the shaker very often and the pucker effect takes over.they pull against the stick when they shouldn't and seem to be reluctant to give her the throttle,both are counterintuitive to the human mind
@hadorstapa
@hadorstapa Жыл бұрын
Stick shaker response is to reduce flaps and leave the throttle in idle? Those are some bad instincts. It sounds like the Captain didn't understand what the stick shaker is communicating.
@gosmo4504
@gosmo4504 Жыл бұрын
With just 2.5 hours of training you can be a captain too!
@jerrymarbury9365
@jerrymarbury9365 Жыл бұрын
Pilot certification has become a right like going to college now everyone can enjoy crappy pilots and diesel college grads doing brain surgery
@Alexstarfire
@Alexstarfire Жыл бұрын
Nothing good ever comes after "to save money."
@jeremypearson6852
@jeremypearson6852 Жыл бұрын
A tragic accident and very definitely preventable. I think it’s fair to say that some pilots flying with commuters are learning on the job. Even now, there are probably not enough pilots to meet the demands of airlines.
@mikelp72
@mikelp72 Жыл бұрын
Many mistakes were made. But bringing the flaps up when close to a stall sealed their fate.
@maxtornogood
@maxtornogood Жыл бұрын
The F/O wasn't gonna gain any experience working with *that* Captain!
@naknaksdadn572
@naknaksdadn572 Жыл бұрын
2.5 hours on the Jetstream 41 is considered "very new"? Ya think? Abbott & Costello Airlines! So sad!
@myles5101
@myles5101 Жыл бұрын
A uniform confers no knowledge, no excellence, it is the person underneath that adds value to the trappings.
@f-xdemers2825
@f-xdemers2825 Жыл бұрын
Maintaining proper airspeed is the f,,,, most important element of flying. So many crash are due to not doing so. In my cockpit, the airspeed indicator is in front middle of my instrument panel. Should be the same, displayed in big numbers and big needles, in all cockpits.
@johningram9081
@johningram9081 Жыл бұрын
Another well made video.
@gunsaway1
@gunsaway1 Жыл бұрын
As always I look forward to your videos. Always a great piece of work. Better than any video out there of the subject.
@kenr9545
@kenr9545 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent presentation, Alec.
@Spyke-lz2hl
@Spyke-lz2hl Жыл бұрын
Strange, sounds very familiar, bad captain with multiple failed checkrides, inexperienced first officer, flaps brought up when stalling. Buffalo anyone??
@sqc2010
@sqc2010 Жыл бұрын
Also, It happens in a turboprop at a low altitude over a movimented city
@joemueller4738
@joemueller4738 Жыл бұрын
This is similar to a crash in Akron Ohio that happened on a business jet coming in to land also, they stalled, crashed, and burned , horrible accident
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 Жыл бұрын
So worried about icing they didn’t pay attention, and expected autopilot to do it all. Definitely reminds me of Buffalo.
@joemueller4738
@joemueller4738 Жыл бұрын
@@5roundsrapid263 exactly right.
@butters1273
@butters1273 Жыл бұрын
Well, time for bed. *NEW AJI VIDEO* ...sleep is for the *WOOP WOOP PULL UP*
@petuniaskunk2316
@petuniaskunk2316 Жыл бұрын
I can relate
@butters1273
@butters1273 Жыл бұрын
@@petuniaskunk2316 thanks, friend 🙂
@wazza7575
@wazza7575 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, what are you pulling on in bed?
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
AJI?
@Hawker900XP
@Hawker900XP Жыл бұрын
The two pilot’s epitaph should read: “See. I told you I needed more training.” Sadly, it looks like aviation is headed back to those days of low time and skill pilots.
@cruzcontrol1504
@cruzcontrol1504 Жыл бұрын
Number one in line for takeoff !!!
@rickwoods2352
@rickwoods2352 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that tragic events seem to be tied to money and corporate greed in many cases.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 Жыл бұрын
You'll never get rid of greed in the human species, that's why government needs to prosecute in these incidents. They do it in Europe. Letting a marginal pilot become a captain is criminal.
@michaelmitchell9612
@michaelmitchell9612 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the work you put into every video, always detailed & interesting!
@samrock7632
@samrock7632 Жыл бұрын
As always, a partial cause was the pursuit of *$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$*
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 Жыл бұрын
Cutting corners like that should come up in FAA reports on our airlines, but they don't seem to care or work at it hard enough. The federal regulators are too much in bed with the firms they're supposed to be keeping an eye on and can probably look forward to high paying jobs with those same airlines once they've worked long enough to acquire a pension from Uncle Sam.
@em1osmurf
@em1osmurf Жыл бұрын
damn. check-flunker and a rooky. what could possibly go wrong? good vid, allec.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 Жыл бұрын
Not a good year for US commuter flights. The Roselawn, IN crash happened later, same year. The fatalities in this crash could have been much higher if the plane was full. Commuter airlines were known for their low pay for pilots (as revealed 15 years later in the Colgan Air crash) and thus this crew was very inexperienced and should have had a seasoned captain on board which there might not have been one available.
@MattsAviationChannel
@MattsAviationChannel Жыл бұрын
Excellent and interesting report as usual.
@Doo_Doo_Patrol
@Doo_Doo_Patrol Жыл бұрын
good to see that a family survived. hope they weren't too badly hurt.
@donnafromnyc
@donnafromnyc Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and explanation, Allec. It gives one pause seeing the disaster in pairing an inexperienced F/O and a captain who should have remained a F/O. We are going to see even more of that in the future. Worse, UA is proposing to run its own ground up flight academy not to necessarily to train to high standards, but in order to address DEI issues, instead of hiring the best out of GA and the military and then training them..
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
F/O. ?
@donnafromnyc
@donnafromnyc Жыл бұрын
@@Capecodham First Officer...the co pilot. Sometimes called a flight officer. In any case, the more junior rank. However, in a check flight, you can have a chief pilot in that position who is monitoring the performance of the captain in the left seat.
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
@@donnafromnyc wHAT DID YOU WITH WITH THE TIME you saved not typing light fficer? Do you realize not every viewer of this channel is not a Sully like you. I doubt if Sully were here, he would be so hip and cool as you. using aircraft acronyms. He would understand as smart as he is, he would not try to show up others using terms like CVR,CRM, GA. EFB, TOGA, FO. But you are not him you need to prove what you know. That type of person is known as a know it all or smart ass.
@donnafromnyc
@donnafromnyc Жыл бұрын
@@Capecodham sorry, but most interested here know the abbreviations. Do calm down.
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
@@donnafromnyc What these type threads are full of are a closed club of elite who try to show how hip and cool they are by using aircraft terms that easily could be spelled out so the casual viewer could understand them.
@frostyfrost4094
@frostyfrost4094 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent Friday thank you Alex
@karlepaul6632
@karlepaul6632 Жыл бұрын
Inexperience was definitely the downfall on this one...good video btw 👍
@sbolden123
@sbolden123 Жыл бұрын
Neither one of them should have been flying
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 Жыл бұрын
The pilots failed at basic airmanship - airspeed control. Flying in a crew can be good or bad. Splitting the workload and extra set of eyes can be helpful in being focused on specific tasks. On the other hand, no pilot in the crew may be in the complete loop of what is happening because they delegate or expect the other to do things. In single-pilot flying, you are expected and have to know everything going on.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 Жыл бұрын
And the airline failed in managing their business. Hiring green, marginal pilots and hoping for the best. Don't know why we don't hand down indictments and criminal penalties to airlines that deliberately endanger the public this way.
@NeumsFor9
@NeumsFor9 Жыл бұрын
The NTSB may as well have recommended "Don't fly any plane with the word " Express" on it." As far as this plane was concerned, mother nature was Manute Bol when it came trying any slam dunk. We get what we pay for.....
@patolt1628
@patolt1628 Жыл бұрын
Not managing the throttles, not looking at the airspeed ... Appalling!
@martinross5521
@martinross5521 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Allec for an excellent video and explanation. The last defence failed - pilot monitoring failed to call out speed. I wonder what kind of pre-descent planning they did too?
@MrRawMonkey
@MrRawMonkey Жыл бұрын
The Jetstream was originally designed and built by Handley Page at Radlett UK.
@thomasbrown7420
@thomasbrown7420 Жыл бұрын
Dammit Tony!
@imagaybanana2004
@imagaybanana2004 Жыл бұрын
This is phenomenal, as usual. I can’t wrap my brain around how that family walked away virtually unharmed. I’m not sure if you take requests or not, but I have one. I saw your Allegheny airlines 853 video, and thought it was excellent. I was struck by the similarities between it and Aeromexico flight 498. I went back and watched your quite old video about Aeromexico 498, and was wondering if there was a possibility you could maybe remaster it?. There’s just a few things about the video that were inaccurate. The biggest one for me being the fact of the DC-9s rolls left after the collision, instead of right. I can’t remember where, but I think I read a witness report stated it rolled right, and plus it logically makes sense, because the piper struck the left side of the DC-9’s tail. It would basically be the same as the Allegheny incident, just flipped, mirror image. Another smaller thing, is just the fact that the graphics are a little bit dated compared to what you’ve been showing recently. Sorry if I come off as critical, it’s all constructive. I just have a strange and particular fascination with that crash. Not really sure why. It’s just always stuck with me. I’m just weird. 🙃
@thatinventionsus
@thatinventionsus Жыл бұрын
The airline needs additional training and massive penalties for continuing to pair up inexperienced flight crew.
@1rem1Art
@1rem1Art Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable
@geoh7777
@geoh7777 Жыл бұрын
Both of those guys should have gone to truck or bus drivers school. Those drivers don't have that vertical axis to worry about, or have sneak up on you and bite you on the posterior.
@psrn1204
@psrn1204 Жыл бұрын
Hi can you do PAL flight 143?
@gevans446
@gevans446 Жыл бұрын
Could u do the 1976 Zagreb midair collision?
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
u?
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 Жыл бұрын
Each pilot exceeded the new magical 1500 hours dictated by the idiots in congress to prevent air crashes after the Colgan Air crash in Buffalo.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 Жыл бұрын
And the 1500 hours can be acquired in any commercial airplane.
@slidefirst694
@slidefirst694 Жыл бұрын
Two guys with a total of 5000 hours should not be flying at night on a commuter jet.
@donnabaardsen5372
@donnabaardsen5372 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a jet. It had propellers.
@slidefirst694
@slidefirst694 Жыл бұрын
@@donnabaardsen5372 Oh I guess they didn't die then.
@JoshuasPHXAviation
@JoshuasPHXAviation Жыл бұрын
Does anyone spot the Quarter Moon in some parts in the beginning of the video🌛?
@zardoz_ii2061
@zardoz_ii2061 Жыл бұрын
I'm not an ATP. But even I know that the response to a stall warning is NOT to retract the flaps. Those lessons should have been cemented in while flying 152's or Trauma-hawks.
@gordonbergslien30
@gordonbergslien30 Жыл бұрын
No kidding! I'm not a pilot but even an armchair aviator knows you need more lift, not less, when the stick shaker activates, especially when you're running out of sky!
@flyguy5941
@flyguy5941 Жыл бұрын
I trained in the tramahawk..know exactly what you mean
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
ATP?
@zardoz_ii2061
@zardoz_ii2061 Жыл бұрын
@@Capecodham Airline Transport Pilot
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
@@zardoz_ii2061 Do you realize not every viewer of this channel is not a Sully like you. I doubt if Sully were here, he would be so hip and cool as you. using aircraft acronyms. He would understand as smart as he is, he would not try to show up others using terms like CVR,CRM, GA. EFB, TOGA, FO. But you are not him you need to prove what you know. That type of person is known as a know it all or smart ass.
@joemueller4738
@joemueller4738 Жыл бұрын
I thought raising the flaps would increase stall speed?
@bigB6flyer
@bigB6flyer Жыл бұрын
Correct & it did. They subsequently stalled and crashed.
@Planemaster1230
@Planemaster1230 Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how they were so confident in the decisions they were making
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
@@Planemaster1230 Low [Q affirmative action hires don't know any better.
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
this plane has no flaps.
@bigB6flyer
@bigB6flyer Жыл бұрын
@@Capecodham False. I flew it for 3y.
@richardcline1337
@richardcline1337 Жыл бұрын
"to save money"....the curse of all airlines. Cutting corners without regard to lives put at risk.
@Chiaffe
@Chiaffe Жыл бұрын
Chantilly VA. Dulles is the name of the airport.
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 Жыл бұрын
allec ! u are the best ! but slow your captions WAY DOWN buddy, my god i cannot read that fast.
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
u?
@Eternal_Tech
@Eternal_Tech Жыл бұрын
You may wish to reduce the speed of the video. Clicking on the gear icon should allow you to decrease the speed of the video, which will cause the captions to stay on the screen for a longer period of time.
@Hatsunari_Kamado
@Hatsunari_Kamado Жыл бұрын
Landing is a very big task, and pilots can be screwed anytime during that. Fortunately in this case, a family of 3 survives.
@hube235
@hube235 Жыл бұрын
Hell, flying any craft is a big task. It’s too bad, the captain made some very rookie mistakes on his approach and reaction to the stall. The only upside is, the family of 3 survived, but, they’ll never look at flying the same again
@cattinkerbell4946
@cattinkerbell4946 Жыл бұрын
When you order your flight crew at Wish.
@DrMatey215
@DrMatey215 Жыл бұрын
Great recreation and analysis of this air tragedy The stick shaker going off on final approach had to really unnerve the pilots
@danblazer-uz6mp
@danblazer-uz6mp Жыл бұрын
Maybe had some ice contamination over the wings making the result of the added pilot errors (which were plural).....well, worse.
@loislane4583
@loislane4583 Жыл бұрын
How could anyone survive that?????
@lorimeyers3839
@lorimeyers3839 Жыл бұрын
Seems like not a lot of experience between the two pilots, eh? 3000 and 2000 hours?
@johnprice1700
@johnprice1700 Жыл бұрын
Actually, for that point in time those were pretty normal aircrew times. In fact, the F/O was a bit above average. I have seen the exact same scenario on jets when a pilot left the autopilot engaged and turned off the auto-throttles.
@lorimeyers3839
@lorimeyers3839 Жыл бұрын
@@johnprice1700 really? Didn’t know that!
@MrFg1980
@MrFg1980 Жыл бұрын
It seems the "slam dunk" approach is still valid to avoid icing conditions but that airspeeds coming out of that maneuver just need to be monitored...like they could, should and would be if you slow something down that weighs 14,000 lbs...
@aflacduckquack
@aflacduckquack Жыл бұрын
You should never put two inexperienced pilots together, be it from their hours and/or time in type. Pilot error all the way, lack of situational awareness. So sad and avoidable. Nice production, Allec-
@zoso73
@zoso73 Жыл бұрын
Yup. 35-year-old captain and a 29-year-old co-pilot. I don't care about the number of flight hours. If I'm a passenger and see two young dudes flying the plane, I would be anxious.
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
@@zoso73 Happened all the time back during the 1990s these jobs didn't pay that well, and the experienced pilots were flying the jets. No excuse of course.
@Greggg57
@Greggg57 Жыл бұрын
These people and their damned auto-pilots.
@samcarranza8544
@samcarranza8544 Жыл бұрын
Excellent as usual!
@bigB6flyer
@bigB6flyer Жыл бұрын
The outer marker & inner markers for the ils flown here in CMH were renamed “Gtslw” & Unoit” after this crash. Cruel irony. Gtslw has since been renamed but unoit is still there.
@Capecodham
@Capecodham Жыл бұрын
CMH?
@bigB6flyer
@bigB6flyer Жыл бұрын
@@Capecodham Columbus OH
@sonquatsch8585
@sonquatsch8585 Жыл бұрын
damn
@louieosumo
@louieosumo Жыл бұрын
Seriously dudes, you should've not descend way too much, and the autopilot ends up climbing to get the glide slope which slows the plane down. When the plane stalled, rather than leveling out, the captain thinks the pilot did something to slow the plane down but he didn't and flaps up during a stall? Wrong move dude
@KoTM25681
@KoTM25681 Жыл бұрын
"I didn't do nothing"
@florida23
@florida23 Жыл бұрын
If they don't go *by-the-book* without exceptions, then they should be pilots.
@GroomLeader
@GroomLeader Жыл бұрын
Another pairing with some badly matched pilots. Codeshare flights always make me nervous, you never know what kind of small, regional partner airline you are going to be stuck with. I avoid partner airlines as much as possible.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 Жыл бұрын
Better to take your car and arrive later...WAIT!
@loginavoidence12
@loginavoidence12 Жыл бұрын
imagine if that building was actually the destination of those three taiwanese people. well, actually, if not then it was now
@tomperkins5657
@tomperkins5657 Жыл бұрын
The cause of the crash was inexperienced pilots, tension in the cockpit, and poor stall training. The NTSB recommended more experienced pilots, a lack of tension in the cockpit, and better stall training.
@UncleBooBoo
@UncleBooBoo Жыл бұрын
At the very moment the aircraft impact occurs, the drama is interrupted by an ad for ... Vueling Airlines ... #Algorithm
@leandro8266
@leandro8266 Жыл бұрын
money money money always money. . .
@susiesweet8003
@susiesweet8003 Жыл бұрын
😢 This is what happens when corners & experience are cut. It never ends well. 🤨 Reason # 27 on why I won't fly.
@donnabaardsen5372
@donnabaardsen5372 Жыл бұрын
Oh, I'd never not fly. However, I'd make absolutely sure to do so on top tier, major airlines only.
@omarimack194
@omarimack194 Жыл бұрын
Flying is still much safer than any other form of transportation.
@susiesweet8003
@susiesweet8003 Жыл бұрын
@@omarimack194 Nope...no control over the situation. If a plane is going down, your butt is going down too & there's not a damn thing you can do about it. No emergency rafts/lifeboats, no power over trying to avoid it & train wrecks usually have a very low causality rate. If I can't get there by boat, train or driving...I'm not going. I'd love to travel cross the country by train. You can't see sh#t 40,000 feet in the air. Ever have a plane come down in your yard?? I did when I was a kid. It was a Piper, the pilot had a heart attack (we lived less than a mile from the county airport), he spun around in our poplar trees then hit the ground. If not for the trees...it would've plowed into our kitchen, where my sister & I were washing dishes. The pilot lived.
@omarimack194
@omarimack194 Жыл бұрын
@@susiesweet8003 So that happened 1 day out of how many that your family lived there? I know that was traumatic, but think about the millions of flights that didn’t hit your house.
@Torontotootwo
@Torontotootwo Жыл бұрын
Babes driving the bus. Just a matter if time. UAL, once a good airline with amazing loyalty, including myself, lost its way. Greed.
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
I have to wonder...were these guys affirmative action hires?
@geoffedmonds6507
@geoffedmonds6507 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you promote kids basically, to fly such high tech planes with so little real world experience and they think it's a video game. Not one thing done correctly and it cost them and their coworker their lives. I remember around this time this was a huge problem in the industry making people captains who had no right to hold the title. Sad, but happy for the entire family who managed to survive this horrible ordeal. Rip to those who died.
@Zach1221
@Zach1221 Жыл бұрын
I know that plane crashes are horrible and tragic and shouldn't make any jokes about them, but as soon as I saw the word "Over Ohio" I knew that this was doomed from the start
@Mannysupbro
@Mannysupbro Жыл бұрын
Can the pilots control the Plane
@IanIsDifferent
@IanIsDifferent Жыл бұрын
Was the video titled “slam dunk” because one of the pilots’ names was Grant Williams?
@michaellusk2856
@michaellusk2856 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when bean counters run airlines.
@b.t.356
@b.t.356 Жыл бұрын
NTSB: *Recommends better training* Me: Yeah. And what about better bleeping resources for bleeping experienced bleeping pilots for regional bleeping airlines!?
@NateCraven318
@NateCraven318 Жыл бұрын
You don't gotta sugarcoat it. This is the internet, curse all ya want :P
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
@@NateCraven318 YT will censor you for farting while using it.
@johnpatrick1588
@johnpatrick1588 Жыл бұрын
The future may become interesting with airlines hiring based on DEI ( Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) affirmative action. United Air claims 50% of new hire pilots will be female and minorities, US Airforce wants to reduce the 80% of white fighter pilots to 67%. Virgin allows staff including pilots to wear opposite-gender uniforms if they identify as such to make them feel good. Atlas/Amazon (has a DEI objective on it website) crash in Houston is blamed on an unqualified FO with a poor training record requiring extra sim training but did meet diversity goals. The family of the pilot that crashed the plane is even suing the airline for hiring the guy and letting him fly. Shortages, the self-imposed goal of hiring pilots based on looks limiting the otherwise qualified from getting hired, automation at the door of reducing/replacing crews, etc will be very interesting in the future. Plus the FAA quietly lowered the EKG heart standards required for medicals. A new post-vax damage world.
@grandepho1
@grandepho1 Жыл бұрын
Pure unadulterated racism right here
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
@johnpatrick1588 I would bet these two pilots in this crash were early affirmative action hires.
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
@@grandepho1 No, pure facts. There is no such thing as "racism" it is a confabulated creation designed to create a sense of guilt in White European Peoples.
@Eternal_Tech
@Eternal_Tech Жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with hiring females or minorities for any job. However, there should be no quotas and all people, regardless of what is between their legs or their skin color, should meet or exceed the same requirements. Having quotas based on sex or race is the definition of sexism and racism.
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
@@Eternal_Tech It's about genetics, not skin color.
@petuniaskunk2316
@petuniaskunk2316 Жыл бұрын
Wrong livery tho
@titan9259
@titan9259 Жыл бұрын
He can't find the correct livery
@luv2fly745
@luv2fly745 Жыл бұрын
Wrong A/C in animation too..BAe J32 not J41. I was flying for Atlantic Coast Airlines as Captain on the J32 based in Orlando at the time of this accident. There was no autopilot on the J32.
@lohrtom
@lohrtom Жыл бұрын
Was the aircraft repaired and returned to service?
@watershed44
@watershed44 Жыл бұрын
Not you again.
@cogitoergospud1
@cogitoergospud1 Жыл бұрын
They left the freakin landing gear down. 🤦‍♂️ First response to stick shaker should have been gear up/full throttle.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 Жыл бұрын
Some of the Atlantic Coast management should have gone to jail for this, but no, just keep em flying and endangering the public is our government's motto.
@badgerfishinski6857
@badgerfishinski6857 8 ай бұрын
Climb power + pitch down. Basic stuff. I knew that after 10 hours in a c150. WTF. Must be fatigue playing a part of it. Long day on the line
@jerrymarshall2095
@jerrymarshall2095 Жыл бұрын
Disordered cockpit
@sbolden123
@sbolden123 Жыл бұрын
That's the airlines fault
@anandguruji83
@anandguruji83 Жыл бұрын
Slam Dunk | United Express Flight 6291
@anandguruji83
@anandguruji83 Жыл бұрын
Slam Dunk | United Express Flight 6291
@FL2070
@FL2070 Жыл бұрын
@@anandguruji83 very informative, thank you
@piotrstrzyzowski3336
@piotrstrzyzowski3336 Жыл бұрын
Bored Idiot | anandguruji83
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
I worked for this airline back then. I'm surprised this was our only bad accident. I quit and went to another airline out of fear for my own safety....
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