Football Tragedy | LaMia Flight 2933

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Allec Joshua Ibay

Allec Joshua Ibay

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@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE
@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE 4 жыл бұрын
Here people still remember it... Everything looked good for Chapecoense,but then the crash happened. Was really grateful to see Atletico Nacional giving up the title to them. We'll never forget them. Never.
@ichhasseamerika
@ichhasseamerika 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thats straight up of Athletico (I dont follow football, so didnt know)
@TenorCantusFirmus
@TenorCantusFirmus 4 жыл бұрын
I distinctly remember the whole story too... Disturbingly similar to the 1949 Superga disaster, in which the whole Torino FC squad perished, and which has practically blown out the team from the highest echelons of the sport (in that case too the other teams agreed on giving them the Title, Torino FC heading the Italian Championship with a large gap), those old enough to remember that other tragedy, and those knowing it too, immediately started drawing the comparison. A friendship between the fanbases of the two teams have also been born, and on the first anniversary of the Chapecoense tragedy Torino FC players went on field dressing a one-off green shirt reminescent of Chapecoense's official social colours.
@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE
@RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE 4 жыл бұрын
@Triple B Thank you there sir!
@bastogne315
@bastogne315 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah getting that title was so worth it!!
@ginabench1981
@ginabench1981 4 жыл бұрын
How horrifying to know you are about to crash.
@jeysonandstephaniebraun3051
@jeysonandstephaniebraun3051 4 жыл бұрын
The airline was already going through financial trouble. The captain was a part owner of the airline... Stopping to refuel would cost extra so he basically chose not too. Also, declaring an emergency would call attention to the fact that they knowingly disregarded the fuel requirements to destination and alternate, so they chose to go on. Even as the engines started flaming out, in spanish, they are say to the control: "a fuel problem has arisen" and when all go out, they say "an electrical problem came up".... meaning they still hoped to land with no engines and sweep they problem under the rug. Another flight had declared an emergency earlier which is why they were put in a holding pattern. With almost no fuel, thy chose to hold nevertheless rather than admit they had a problem - and admit they had basically planned the flight with that fuel range.
@richardbradley1598
@richardbradley1598 4 жыл бұрын
That explains so many questions I had, no mayday for instance
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps there should be an international law that airline owners aren't allowed to be pilots for the airline, to avoid a conflict of interest.
@henriquedaumas9934
@henriquedaumas9934 4 жыл бұрын
and they didnt warn the passengers, which is horrifying . They killed people because of that.
@spencerjohnson7103
@spencerjohnson7103 4 жыл бұрын
"i have gotten away with it before" needs to be added to the list of hazardous attitudes the FAA makes us learn. This type of thinking is so easy to fall into, and can be so deadly
@olivergrumitt8033
@olivergrumitt8033 4 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened on the Challenger flight that exploded shortly after launch. There was a fault with the O rings that engineers were aware of and warned managers but managers decided that although O ring erosion had been observed on previous flight, no disaster had occurred and so it was all right to continue flights. Essentially, managers were playing Russian roulette and sooner or later the bullet would be in the firing chamber. The 25th Shuttle flight, the 10th of Challenger was the flight which had the bullet in the chamber. This complacent approach to a potentially catastrophic problem became to be known as the Normalization of Deviance, which occurred again with the second fatal Shuttle flight, of Columbia, in 2003. Aviation and spaceflight are not tolerant of carelessness and such complacent attitudes must never occur again.
@TheRoguelement
@TheRoguelement 4 жыл бұрын
Hey look back in the day I used to drive my "Street race cars" fast but I never took chances with other's live's and I've never so much as put a scratch on anyone doing it ..He should have landed for fuel like he had originally planned but someone must have convinced him they had plenty of fuel . He was out of fuel long before his final ..
@gilbertogonzales6568
@gilbertogonzales6568 4 жыл бұрын
Fuel gauge accuracy is plus or minus 600 pounds
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 4 жыл бұрын
@@olivergrumitt8033 They figure with time and, Money if the operators have a slim chance to make it, it's a go. They can afford so many losses death's on how much the people let it Crash/PASS except.
@michaelmccarthy4615
@michaelmccarthy4615 4 жыл бұрын
The FAA has no jurisdiction in South America I believe.
@eltonalonsopompeu615
@eltonalonsopompeu615 4 жыл бұрын
A few extra details: 1. The pilot was also one of LaMia’s co-owners. He was well aware of the airline’s poor financial condition, that’s probably why he adopted this conducts about flight planning and management. 2. He knew he would be fined if he landed anywhere flamed-out. That factor probably explains why the emergency declaration was made so late. 3. How bolivian authorities approved this flight plan is beyond me. That aircraft should never be allowed to take off with such little fuel to spare. 4. About the survivors: 🇧🇴crew technician Erwin Tumiri is studying to become a commercial pilot 🇧🇴 stewardess Ximena Suárez became an air traffic agent 🇧🇷 journalist Rafael Henzel resumed his career until dying in march 26, 2019, by a heart attack while playing football with friends 🇧🇷 backup goal-keeper Jakson Ragnar Follmann lost a leg in the crash, effectively ending his footballing career. He is pursuing a career as a singer, winning a well known Brazilian singing reality show recently. 🇧🇷 defender Neto retired from football wihout being able to resume his footballing career due to chronic pain from his injuries. He belongs now to Chapecoense’s staff. 🇧🇷 Wing back Alan Ruschel resumed his footballing career. He returned to Chapecoense after a loan to Goiás (a Brazilian first division, mid-tier club). About Chapecoense’s fate: Chape is a very small club that was very well run by the board of directors that perished in the crash. They never got back to the playing level they had before the accident. In the aftermath of the crash, several clubs suggested a three year period while Chapecoense would be free of being relegated, even if finishing as one of the four last in the league. Chapecoense, maybe under pressure by the Brazilian Football Confederation, refused. Last year, which would be the last year of immunity, Chape finished second to last and got relegated to Brazil’s second division. It will be really hard to them, as a tiny club, to get back to relevance after the disaster and the personal and financial fallout from the crash.
@JM-lw3nx
@JM-lw3nx 4 жыл бұрын
low on fuel, entering into a holding pattern = deadly
@longdonglarry
@longdonglarry 4 жыл бұрын
because they weren´t clear with the controller and did not declare an emergency.
@jimbeck3230
@jimbeck3230 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve read about thousands of accidents; but, the total incompetence of these two pilots is beyond comprehension. It screams that this airline is totally incompetent. They have no backup system to remove incompetents. The government did the correct thing by shutting them down. They should have put management in jail also.
@paulcooper8818
@paulcooper8818 4 жыл бұрын
Very reckless pilots, very unfortunate passengers
@doublebloggers6661
@doublebloggers6661 4 жыл бұрын
It was mostly the airlines fault, not the pilots, that aircraft was not the type of long distant types and circling around.
@kevincallaghan3212
@kevincallaghan3212 4 жыл бұрын
@@doublebloggers6661 was the pilot not the owner to???
@dawn5227
@dawn5227 4 жыл бұрын
@@doublebloggers6661 it's the pilots who dispite having numerous times to refuel at several other airports simply dont bother. That's all on the pilots. The aircraft wasnt designed for such long flights but it the pilots who actually flew the plane and disregard fuel, air traffic control or even to declare mayday or pan pan pan. That's all down to pilot arrogance. The whole "I've done it before, I can do it again" attitude that killed so many innocent people.
@EphemeralProductions
@EphemeralProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Part of the reason I've akways been worried about flyin. Your life is in the pilots' hands and if they are incompetent, reckless, or nuts, your ass could well be screwed. And you won't know it until it, most likely, is too late.
@toniknutas6366
@toniknutas6366 4 жыл бұрын
This can only happen in undevelope countries .
@mikewilkins2153
@mikewilkins2153 4 жыл бұрын
That's really appalling that professional pilots would disregard their own calculations and try to "make it".
@leoray1234
@leoray1234 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Wilkins I think he was a part owner
@geoh7777
@geoh7777 4 жыл бұрын
Any flying involves risks. (Not to mention risky behavior.) Viz., any landing that you can walk away from is a good one.
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 4 жыл бұрын
@@geoh7777 that is true, but that doesn't mean you should ever take asinine risks like these jokers were taking to make it happen. I found myself screaming at my laptop like an idiot because I could feel what was about to happen. Just the mere fact that they were discussing fuel situation and calculations means there was already some doubt about being able to make it. Now that extra hour & change doesn't seem so long to touch down & gas up. That's no way to fly, period!
@AviationNut
@AviationNut 4 жыл бұрын
Here is a video of them on the plane before takeoff. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4DLo3ZorM12rM0
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 4 жыл бұрын
In aviation, we call that "get-there-itis" It has brought down many airplanes. And now it has claimed another. To all my pilots out there. (Im an a&p) *Respect. Your. Limits.*
@qv2539
@qv2539 4 жыл бұрын
Recklessness and arrogance of these pilots cost innocent lives. Makes me angry.
@Kyrichenko
@Kyrichenko 4 жыл бұрын
What about world leaders using others as tool
@acgillespie
@acgillespie 4 жыл бұрын
We just know it has to be that there Trumps fault
@marinalombrano4155
@marinalombrano4155 4 жыл бұрын
@@acgillespie well, duh... EVERYTHING is Trump's fault lol
@acgillespie
@acgillespie 4 жыл бұрын
@@marinalombrano4155 .Hope your ready for 4 more years of pure insanity.. USA will self Implode upon itself. Trump will join all the others laughing at us all.
@Falcorynz
@Falcorynz 4 жыл бұрын
very sad, I remember seeing the news of this accident when I was going to school, here in Brazil many people paid tribute to the team
@colombianguy8194
@colombianguy8194 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. It was big news here in Colombia. Such a tragedy! A young kid from a poor farmers family was the first person to help the few survivors, he had a big ovation later on a ceremony in the stadium were the soccer match was scheduled.
@alberta1st
@alberta1st 4 жыл бұрын
A real shame what kind of pilots do that gamble with lives and the young first timer captian must have been horrified. rip
@boblawblaw6875
@boblawblaw6875 4 жыл бұрын
Once again, great video Alec. Definitely maddening when the pilots’ recklessness causes the unnecessary death of 75 people.
@harrisonofcolorado8886
@harrisonofcolorado8886 4 жыл бұрын
It is very sad that team died. They were hoping for the match of their lives and they sadly never made it. I am glad the Airline went bankrupt because it's their fault that they crushed the dreams of a small town in Brazil with a rising professional football team.
@TijmensAviation
@TijmensAviation 4 жыл бұрын
And the airline itself was just trash and unreliable.
@blobydude420productions4
@blobydude420productions4 4 жыл бұрын
It actually got its license suspended by the bolivian civil aviation authority it didnt go bankrupt
@shapman280
@shapman280 4 жыл бұрын
@@blobydude420productions4 the airline ceased operations lol and the ceo got charged with manslaughter
@AviationNut
@AviationNut 4 жыл бұрын
Here is video of them on the plane before takeoff, the team and the pilots were so happy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4DLo3ZorM12rM0
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 4 жыл бұрын
@@AviationNut I don't think i can bring myself to watch it.
@VahlMiguelJBaran
@VahlMiguelJBaran 4 жыл бұрын
Im a football enthusiast and i was in 7th grade in an aerospace university when this happened. I can remember how my news feed went insane because of this tragedy. May their souls rest in peace forever. #ForçaChápe 🇧🇷🇵🇭
@billyponsonby
@billyponsonby 4 жыл бұрын
Another video account done with compassion and respect. Good work Mr Ibay
@doublebloggers6661
@doublebloggers6661 4 жыл бұрын
This was more of a murder rather than a accident.
@dianabeurman9937
@dianabeurman9937 4 жыл бұрын
Really!!!!!!
@computertutorials1286
@computertutorials1286 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say it was more involuntary manslaughter, they weren't trying to crash but were just dumb and stupid, same with people who text and drive.
@doublebloggers6661
@doublebloggers6661 4 жыл бұрын
What happened was that this plane was not the type of plane to make such a flight, my mom has a friend who was the one to give permissions for planes to fly, but she said that that plane was not a good one for such flight, she even gave 5 reasons why the plane should not fly, but they ignored, so after the crash, they blamed it on her and she had to flee from her country.
@henriquedaumas9934
@henriquedaumas9934 4 жыл бұрын
@@computertutorials1286 they knew the risks. they played with lives. and they didnt even tell the passengers to brace. they died scared, without knowing what was happening, without receiving instructions, and some even without a seatbelt (a goalkeeper survived and he wasn't using the seatbelt). It's a voluntary manslaughter, they protected their asses till the end, regardless of the passengers right to know
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 4 жыл бұрын
It says at 14:30 the pilots knew they didn't have enough fuel for the flight. They should have stopped at Bogota as initially planned. A delay is much better than a crash with 71 lives needlessly lost.
@derbagger22
@derbagger22 4 жыл бұрын
I like playing with my miles to empty calculations in my car. But I can walk and it's only me. Can't imagine how these pilots could attempt to cut it so close...
@blessedtrinity9664
@blessedtrinity9664 4 жыл бұрын
Not safe for autos either I advise at least a quarter tank.
@derbagger22
@derbagger22 4 жыл бұрын
@@blessedtrinity9664 I advise you shelter in place.
@blessedtrinity9664
@blessedtrinity9664 4 жыл бұрын
Not flying anywhere soon that's for sure.
@luke83rj
@luke83rj 4 жыл бұрын
One of the survivors (a journalist) died recently of heart attack when he was playing soccer with friends.
@kettle_of_chris
@kettle_of_chris 4 жыл бұрын
@Tommy dot Jesus! (-lmfao-)
@lindadavies6109
@lindadavies6109 4 жыл бұрын
Criminal negligence. What a profound tragedy! Thanks for an excellent vid Allec, 201k subscribers already! Greetings from South Africa 👋🇿🇦
@iamwhatieat9639
@iamwhatieat9639 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one. This one is sad.
@taejunchang396
@taejunchang396 4 жыл бұрын
Angry Robot This is a recreation. There was a older reenactment from this channel.
@caroladams1543
@caroladams1543 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all remember the movie ALIVE about the plane crash carrying Brazilian soccer players? Even worse than this one!!
@theenzoferrari458
@theenzoferrari458 4 жыл бұрын
No this one is happy.
@wonderfulnernie
@wonderfulnernie 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.This is really sad.All of them inside the plane did not deserve this accident. This is unforgetable.Rest in peace for those who died so early.
@EphemeralProductions
@EphemeralProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Geez. She just barely got done talkin, then WHAM! down they went.
@madmax232
@madmax232 4 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that silences or other aircraft transmissions were cut from the ATC recording for this video. But disasters can happen quite quickly.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 4 жыл бұрын
There is a longer version, but it’s pretty grim.
@ZoppanEgod
@ZoppanEgod 4 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this so long! Thank you for making this.
@baraxor
@baraxor 4 жыл бұрын
For a USAF pilot, having to make an unscheduled diversion/landing because of a fuel emergency is the equivalent of a Navy captain running the ship aground: effective end of your career. There's a reason for this.
@Boss_Tanaka
@Boss_Tanaka 4 жыл бұрын
Well these pilots ended their carreers anyway...
@illumiNOTme326
@illumiNOTme326 4 жыл бұрын
Gary McMichael what don't you understand? He's basically stating that the USAF considers a pilots failure to ensure the appropriate amount of fuel to be so serious that it's equivalent to a Navy Captain making the mistake of grounding a ship. In both instances it will end your career. He is making the case that this video highlights the reason why the punishment for such an oversight is so harsh.
@TheProPilot
@TheProPilot 4 жыл бұрын
@Gary McMichael Seems pretty clear to me. If you intentionally flight plan to not have enough fuel, declare an emergency, and then divert for it, you're going to be flipping signs in front of the local tax office.
@Tom-ih8gr
@Tom-ih8gr 4 жыл бұрын
I’m calling bullshit, that’s absolutely backward. That sort of culture would encourage people not to divert for fuel and to press on regardless, thus crashing. Nothing wrong at all with diverting for fuel, most people have done it a least once if not more times in their career. Increased holding, headwinds or go arounds can all make aircraft shorter of fuel. To sack someone for making a safe and pragmatic decision to divert because they’re low on fuel is so ridiculous it’s clearly not the case.
@computertutorials1286
@computertutorials1286 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-ih8gr The difference is they knew they didn't have enough fuel before they left the runway and just didn't care. This crash was caused solely by the idiot pilots.
@smokeyveras7235
@smokeyveras7235 4 жыл бұрын
Some major incompetence going on here. Flight logs revealed that the pilots basically allowed this to happen more than once. Majority of their flights were under fueled, and I believe a flight that took place shortly before this one, ran out of fuel as well, but the pilots were able to glide it down and land safely. Multiple situations and the pilots never thought “hmmm, maybe something is wrong with our fuel calculations?” Imagine being okay with this much stress for every single flight.
@thebeasters
@thebeasters 4 жыл бұрын
But why is the question?
@mariaana7579
@mariaana7579 4 жыл бұрын
Mastashake saving money.the pilot is co owner of the company
@boysky9991
@boysky9991 2 жыл бұрын
Esos aviones no tienen la capacidad de hacer vuelos de más de 4 hrs es lo máximo de autonomía que tienen... Así que aunque tengan los tanques llenos esos aviones no pueden volar tanto
@MattsAviationChannel
@MattsAviationChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Safety first is the 1st golden rule. Completely unnecessary accident. So terribly sad!
@andrewloja5839
@andrewloja5839 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, how I remember this particular accident, it still shakes me when I look back at it, over three years later. When I first received the news that it happened, it hit me hard. What I didn't know was just WHO was onboard that plane that night. When I did, it was like being hit in the stomach again an again for seventy-one times, each hit representing every fatality that occurred in the crash. May God forever console those who died on the night of that traumatic accident. That glorious team, even the pilots in my opinion, never deserved that kind of horrible, swift death that they knew, yet didn't see, was coming when the last engine flamed out. May God forever comfort those who were left scarred by the accident and its after-effects. Thank you, Allec, Mauricio, XPilot, TheFlightChannel….thank you for making these vidoes on this tragedy to represent it in such a way so as to commemorate the victims so as to say one last, mournful goodbye to them, and blessed be all who truly care for those victims, heat and soul. God be with us all.
@rickz3543
@rickz3543 4 жыл бұрын
May Gods Grace and Christ Love reign in all of our hearts forever...
@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 4 жыл бұрын
What sweet, moving posts you both have offered. I hope some or all of the families might one day come across these precious comments you both left.❤️
@CaptainJadenAR
@CaptainJadenAR 4 жыл бұрын
Well not 3, 4 years
@martynh5410
@martynh5410 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Allec! 2 thumbs up. Very tragic loss of life here and truly caused by stupidity and incompetence of the pilots. Some here blame ATC but I would not, as there never was a Mayday call.
@vixen4327
@vixen4327 4 жыл бұрын
This reminded me so much of that Avianca flight too! Same thing.... running out of fuel and didn't say mayday!
@h7pubg
@h7pubg 4 жыл бұрын
tragedy, could have been so much worse if they collided with the other plane
@aaronviaje134
@aaronviaje134 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this kababayan! I was waiting for this one, it was a big news when I was in colombia.
@christianlords1340
@christianlords1340 4 жыл бұрын
pilot to copilot, we are running low on fuel, we need to add drag and make the plane as inefficient as possible, .........deploying the air brake! are you kidding me!!!
@idaviation
@idaviation 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!! I had been asking for this video for over 3 years!
@emiliosimone366
@emiliosimone366 4 жыл бұрын
1) 10 minutes before landing (and with 20 minutes of gas in the tank) everything looked fine for this pilot coming from a South direction. I believe he was third in sequence for landing (LATAM and AV ahead of him). No delays, no particular weather on his route. 2) Out of the blue, VivaColombia (flying from BOG to ADZ) declares an emergency and request landing at MDE. 3) ATC quickly clears Viva for landing and puts everyone else in a hold. 4) The Lamia pilot has two choices: a) declare an emergency himself or b) hope the VivaColombia lands quickly. Even though the guy sounds quite distressed he goes for b) mainly because MDE will fine the airline (I think it is 25K) for a preventable fuel emergency landing. This new charter airline and the pilot might further get their licenses revoked to operate in Colombia if they are found to be operating recklessly -which is very likely-. 5) Viva faces some weather landing (he is coming from the North) and its landing takes an extra 8 minutes to complete. That emergency was due to a faulty fuel indicator. 6) By the time ATC goes back to the aircraft waiting on hold the Lamia plane is doomed. He declares emergency way too late. We know how that ended. 7) MORE IMPORTANTLY: both Avianca and LATAM planes are then diverted to an alternate airport while ATC tries to sort out what happened to Lamia. Those two planes, sequence 1 and 2 for landing with the MDE airport literally in sight AND good weather, spent over an extra hour in the air while the Viva and Lamia emergencies played out (and to take them to the alternate). Lesson: you do need extra fuel for both 1) delays not related to weather and 2) fuel to alternate.... even when everything looks perfect 3 minutes from landing with the airport in sight. avherald.com/h?article=4a16583c/0017&opt=0 (Comment by ColPilot on Thursday, Dec 1st 2016 16:34Z)
@tommyprado9142
@tommyprado9142 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these great recreations!
@hellosunshine1090
@hellosunshine1090 4 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Franklin quipped "Haste makes waste". Indeed it does ! RIP to the 73 Souls
@BillClay88
@BillClay88 4 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with these pilots? Seems like more commonsense. Jesus. Wtf are they doing?
@robertharrold5286
@robertharrold5286 4 жыл бұрын
WHY DO YOU THINK I'M YELLING ALEX ???
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 4 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Baumgartner *SO YOU CAN HEAR ME!!!*
@Kyrichenko
@Kyrichenko 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertharrold5286 KAJE??? KAJE??? KAJ SI POPIL VEĆ, KAJ SE DEREŠ, JESI TI POLUDEL?
@robertharrold5286
@robertharrold5286 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kyrichenko HAY BOBBY IT'S BOBBY HARROLD HI
@ginabench1981
@ginabench1981 4 жыл бұрын
Scary.
@Eurotrash4367
@Eurotrash4367 4 жыл бұрын
I've been operating automobiles for over 25 years and I have never run out of fuel so I don't understand how a trained crew in a modern airplane could.
@MrCrystalcranium
@MrCrystalcranium 4 жыл бұрын
The photo still from the television interview Sisy Arias you showed in your video is from an interview done in the cockpit of the plane right before the tragic flight. Just terrible she was flying with Larry and Curley!
@fabricioronchi8472
@fabricioronchi8472 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that commander Quiroga was one of Lamia's CEO. This allowed him to have more power inside the company and make his own decisions during flights
@audicoes
@audicoes 4 жыл бұрын
An additional fact: the initial flight plan considered to refuel in Cobija, but - as the airport was closed at night - they went on. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaMia_Flight_2933#Flight_from_Santa_Cruz
@carolmorris404
@carolmorris404 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the reporting of this crash as clearly as if it happened yesterday. Being a country of football, well all sporting disciplines, our country mourned the loss of the lives of players they had played against and knew personally. It was only a year later that an African football team were all struck by lightning. My one question is how did the pilots get it so wrong? A plane can not fly without fuel, what were they thinking, or didn't they think at all? From the investigation they determined that the pilots "knew" they didn't have sufficient fuel. RIP
@santiagopizichini2151
@santiagopizichini2151 4 жыл бұрын
This is an example of what a corrupt pilot is capable of when the fear of being discovered breaking the law emerges. I was waiting for this video, thank you so much
@charltongioprepena9325
@charltongioprepena9325 4 жыл бұрын
Likewise, awesome video that you effortly made. Keep up the good work.
@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid
@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid 4 жыл бұрын
Friendly correction: only 6 people survived initially. The goalie of the club (Danilo) was incorrectly reported as having been transported to hospital, but that declaration was later corrected. He died at the scene.
@josephdale69
@josephdale69 4 жыл бұрын
Running low on fuel and drops the gear (the biggest source of drag on an airplane).
@aerostock1
@aerostock1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and they also likely added flaps at some point. We know they deployed speed brakes at 15:57 but they likely never retracted neither flaps or SB's. I don't know what the glide ratio is on the aircraft but those short wing surfaces don't appear to make it a very good glider either. I only have about 100 hrs real flying time but 10's of thousands of hours on flight sim games and practiced trying to make a runway many times. Even I know that the first thing you need to do is get the plane as aerodynamically clean as possible in these situations. Looks like they did everything wrong in that respect.
@josephdale69
@josephdale69 4 жыл бұрын
aerostock1 Are you getting into aviation as a profession in the US? Once you get 1500 hours, I’d love to walk your resume in to the airline I work for.
@GarrisIiari
@GarrisIiari 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they had been in (and survived and gotten away with) this scenario before, so they figured they do what worked before, meaning, "hey, before we loose power and the ability to do anything, let's get ourselves in glider scenario" not really thinking about or calculating the fact this time was different, and glider scenario would be deadly... There really aren't words to describe this...
@aerostock1
@aerostock1 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephdale69 Thank you so much Joseph, unfortunately my situation would need to drmatically change in a more positive direction for me to pursue a career in aviation. God bless.
@pup1008
@pup1008 4 жыл бұрын
They did say that if the had run out of fuel they would not have had the power to operate any systems including the landing gear. I am surprised at this as most aircraft have a little turbine that drops down to provide power but I don't think it would be enough to lower the carriage although that said most of that is achieved with the help of gravity.
@leoray1234
@leoray1234 4 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it in this video, but one huge factor I read elsewhere is that the Captain was also a part owner of LaMia. That would explain his stinginess with fuel and trying to make schedule.
@aequoria2949
@aequoria2949 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a conflict of interest.
@pauloluciomachadodebrito8107
@pauloluciomachadodebrito8107 4 жыл бұрын
As I Brazilian I can confirm This was one of the saddest days we had ever been through The hole country cried these young man lives together We love soccer, that meant a lot to us. A small city like Chapecó. Very very sad
@Antonio-fj5gs
@Antonio-fj5gs 2 жыл бұрын
As a American I can say I’m with you Brazil Numero Uno RIP to those who died on the flight.
@neilherrera5497
@neilherrera5497 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video you make Allec Joshua.
@buckfuttler2877
@buckfuttler2877 4 жыл бұрын
it took 2 hours to reach cruising altitude??? lol
@SPTSuperSprinter156
@SPTSuperSprinter156 4 жыл бұрын
this struck me as well.
@jamesclendon4811
@jamesclendon4811 4 жыл бұрын
I think maybe it's just a punctuation error. Put a period after 30,000 and add the "two hours later" to the next sentence. Maybe.
@moonlight_catto
@moonlight_catto 4 жыл бұрын
"lol" wtf
@buckfuttler2877
@buckfuttler2877 4 жыл бұрын
@@moonlight_catto yeah, as in i laughed out loud for real when i read that. Get a life idiot.
@MegaDavisB
@MegaDavisB 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I wondered about this, too. If it actually took two hours to reach the cruise flight level of 300 then they burned a lot of fuel they never expected to lose while step-climbing for so long - fuel they may have originally thought they'd have for the cruise and descent portions of the flight. But still, this blatant recklessness is appalling. Most professional pilots couldn't even imagine contemplating such a thing. Sheer lunacy.
@skinnerhound2660
@skinnerhound2660 4 жыл бұрын
Very difficult to fathom their arrogance along with their incompetence at the expense of so many innocent victims.
@suekelley2109
@suekelley2109 4 жыл бұрын
Skinner Hound and then when the ATC (or equivalent is trying to help them they don’t pay attention to her. Co pilot should have mentioned this fuel problem long before he did. By the time he told her he’s panicked - you can hear it in his voice. But she has other flights she has to clear - she can’t just wave her magic wand and make them disappear
@suekelley2109
@suekelley2109 4 жыл бұрын
One would think fuel calculations would be a priority in pilot training. Great video as usual Allec.
@rrknl5187
@rrknl5187 4 жыл бұрын
As a pilot, they are! in fact, one of the highest priorities.
@eigobike3929
@eigobike3929 4 жыл бұрын
Pilot and Ground Crew
@StephenLuke
@StephenLuke Жыл бұрын
RIP To the 71 passengers and crew of LaMia Flight 2933
@mintstarmari
@mintstarmari 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that night. I was drawing in my room, went to sleep and next morning, a classmate told me a plane crashed the night prior with a football team on board. Then I got home and the news report said everything. I was horrified specially because back then, I was helping my mother with air safety research.
@reenasolanki2004
@reenasolanki2004 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing in new and recent videos... Your videos are always Superb👌.... Heard this plane crash in news... Now come to know the real reasons behind this crash... RIP to all till the Day of Resurrection...
@flashgordon3715
@flashgordon3715 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this. There were so many people effected, especially in South American countries. More simulator time would have given the pilots numerous emergency situations, basically to train pilots to remain calm and fly the plane. They didn't have much time to think about raising the gear and flaps. After the first flame out. First thing after flame out, trim for gliding.
@sunnyfon9065
@sunnyfon9065 4 жыл бұрын
I still remember watching this on news few days after and I saw it on internet and KZbin on November and December 2016. RIP to the people who died in there.
@msb3235
@msb3235 4 жыл бұрын
One of the flight crew is so young and beautiful, sad she was gone so early 😭
@JoshuasPHXAviation
@JoshuasPHXAviation 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Allec👍👍
@klaus3794
@klaus3794 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done, thanks.
@robertharrold5286
@robertharrold5286 4 жыл бұрын
IF "SCULLY" IS NOT MY PILOT I'LL TAKE A BLEEPING "TRAIN"
@GOLTURBO555
@GOLTURBO555 4 жыл бұрын
The captain said right before the take off at one soccer team players stories "They are flying with the best" And the voice at CVR is the Captain, and they where on hold due to one Airbus A320 in Mayday due to toillet problems, if the Lamia flight declared emergency... They had the priority... never happened. Sad.
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 4 жыл бұрын
This was so hard to watch. The incompetence is overwhelming.
@AndrePereira-tw5vs
@AndrePereira-tw5vs 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian and I only have one word for the commander who died: KILLER.
@Berttus
@Berttus 4 жыл бұрын
Among the passengers we have a lot of press members, including the local narrator Rafael Henzel. Henzel did survive the crash, and came back to a Chapecoense game in 2018. Sadly he passed out in late 2019 because of a heart disease.
@Alovekellz
@Alovekellz 4 жыл бұрын
This is really sad. Poor judgement! Prayers out to the families who no longer can physically enjoy their loved ones...
@GordMcknob
@GordMcknob 4 жыл бұрын
The AVRO RJ series 70/85/100 are outstanding aircraft,, unfortunately when you put them in the hands of pilots who make irresponsible decisions , the outcome will always be a dangerous situation..
@ccchhhrrriiisss100
@ccchhhrrriiisss100 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. This was gross incompetence by the captain and first officer that bordered upon being criminal. That incompetence killed nearly everyone on board.
@stanislavkostarnov2157
@stanislavkostarnov2157 4 жыл бұрын
I am sure if those Pilots had survived & at all intact they WOULD be facing criminal charges... as it is, I would like there instructors to answer a lot of questions... probably they did/are... I mean, if these pilots were not morons in the direct meaning of the word (and that means we are saying that all the involved pilots have well bellow average intellect), the only thing that can explain a moderately sensible, sane pilot doing this is very poor training or a hellish amount of pressure to get there (Like in the case of President Kaczyński's plane crash). whichever it is, someone outside that plane (or at least that cockpit) is responsible.
@tiguilherman_plays
@tiguilherman_plays 4 жыл бұрын
"bordered" on criminal? aint you an angel
@ccchhhrrriiisss100
@ccchhhrrriiisss100 4 жыл бұрын
@@tiguilherman_plays - No; but, thank you for think so. *smirk
@bullseyes1983
@bullseyes1983 4 жыл бұрын
There were several factors discovered later on: - The totally unprofessional crew, leaving with a flight plan that hadn't enough fuel. That is no miscalculation, THEY KNEW IT. - Once in flight, they choose not to divert to refuel, even knowing there was a big chance of not making it. - They didn't notified ATC about the fuel warning until it was too late. - Didn't took corrective action to make it to the runway and slowed too soon. - Bolivian aviation authorities knew about regular LaMia's short on fuel flight plans, but we're corrupt and shut up for money. - CONMEBOL, the south american football association that organizes the tournament, urged teams to contract LaMia charter flights. Several teams used, even when it meaned larger flights like this one, at no better price that a direct flight contracted with any other company. Corruption once again.
@ViveAzy.07
@ViveAzy.07 4 жыл бұрын
what animation/game do you use?
@ythinder
@ythinder 4 жыл бұрын
Their actions turned a perfectly serviceable aircraft into a death trap
@douglasb5046
@douglasb5046 4 жыл бұрын
Terrible flight planning/aeronautical decision-making by the pilots/dispatchers. Very sad this led to such a loss of life of innocents
@emiliofernandez7117
@emiliofernandez7117 4 жыл бұрын
They are still playing, just not on earth 💔
@CaptainJadenAR
@CaptainJadenAR 4 жыл бұрын
The accidents are real.
@WendyKS93
@WendyKS93 4 жыл бұрын
There is no getting around the fact that this tragedy happened because of the pilots careless disregard for the lives and safety of their passengers and apparently did so on more than one occasion and this time it ended in tragically. They knew they had a fuel problem yet did not divert and get fuel when they could and should have yet. Well done video Allec.
@CyberSystemOverload
@CyberSystemOverload 4 жыл бұрын
These have to be the two most incompetent unprofessional pilots I have ever heard off. The people behind that cockpit door sitting in those rows of seats place their lives in the hands of the flight crew. This accident makes me so mad, their arrogance and unprofessionalism took the lives of those poor passengers, the young rookie pilot in the jumpseat and all the cabin crew because of sheer incompetence. You can hear the stress entering the voice of the controller as she began to realize the seriousness of it all.
@Boubson
@Boubson 3 жыл бұрын
What if they shut 2 engines when they saw the master alarm indicating that they have only 20 min of fuel remaining??
@Alicia-BG
@Alicia-BG 4 жыл бұрын
First they risk running out of fuel and then they act like nothing is happening even as the engines start flaming out. It's truly sickening how so many lives were lost due to stupidity and negligence.
@sanyahikari7072
@sanyahikari7072 4 жыл бұрын
This is like the Andes crash, but with a jet plane instead. And the second plane crash to almost eliminate an entire sports team.
@workingguy-OU812
@workingguy-OU812 4 жыл бұрын
Such a shame, and a waste. Also, one of my favorite aircraft for its uniqueness. I got to fly on one while it was in service for an American airline as a regional (IIRC) aircraft, and I just thought it the coolest little plane with its four high-mounted engines. I figured that it may have been originally designed for military use, but it seems that it was designed for short take offs.
@JJDigitalartStudio
@JJDigitalartStudio 4 жыл бұрын
The young lives lost is sad. All for the laziness or ineptitude of the pilots.
@Cthight
@Cthight 4 жыл бұрын
Pilots logic: Hey we might not have enough fuel are gonna make it? Pff sure or do Birds need fuel? We got wings dude so calm down.
@maximorlova226
@maximorlova226 4 жыл бұрын
rip to those amazing soccer players
@AvEnth1
@AvEnth1 4 жыл бұрын
What do yu use to make your vids Is it pure animation or from a flight sim
@petuniaskunk2316
@petuniaskunk2316 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder what is the new video today?
@Boubson
@Boubson 3 жыл бұрын
"The flight late departure is due to a Chapecoense team member's request to have a videogame retrieved from his luggage in the cargo hold prior to departure". A capricious child (or star) mindset. "I want my Nintendo Switch. Right now. Otherwise I'm going on a starvation strike"... At the end, we had a starvation strike from the plane
@bjr4567
@bjr4567 3 жыл бұрын
Still, considering all the errors made by the crew, both before and then during the flight, it's a wholly inconsequential issue. As it were, I'm not sure ANY flight crew could screw things up more thoroughly and impressively than this one managed to do.
@francocrosa1073
@francocrosa1073 4 жыл бұрын
I waited a lot for this video, thanks Allec! For the next I would like to see the Air Botswana Disaster, and the man who stole an Alaska Airliner, btw is that story real? Hahahahaha
@anandguruji83
@anandguruji83 4 жыл бұрын
Football Tragedy | LaMia Flight 2933
@anandguruji83
@anandguruji83 4 жыл бұрын
Football Tragedy | LaMia Flight 2933
@SMARTBoardSBMInchInteractiveWh
@SMARTBoardSBMInchInteractiveWh 4 жыл бұрын
anandguruji83 yes
@buckfuttler2877
@buckfuttler2877 4 жыл бұрын
cool story bro
@IanTaylor_1
@IanTaylor_1 4 жыл бұрын
SOOOOOOOOOO many errors made by the pilots and ATC. Neither took the situation serious. Amazing how humans can be that negligent when dealing with many lives. ATC clearly doesn't understand the definition of EMERGENCY.
@mizzyroro
@mizzyroro 4 жыл бұрын
He never declared an emergency.
@IanTaylor_1
@IanTaylor_1 4 жыл бұрын
Mizzy Roro true. However, when an air traffic controller hears a pilot say they have a fuel problem then they need to take it seriously. I was an air traffic controller for the US Air Force and I would’ve asked the pilot if they’re declaring an emergency. Very simple. Gear down and flaps configuration was enough to kill them all. Your next pilot could be that stupid.
@gabe-po9yi
@gabe-po9yi 4 жыл бұрын
Where did they get their licenses from? Mail order?
@biglsworth567
@biglsworth567 4 жыл бұрын
Will you do a video on Urugayan Air Force Flight 571?
@alexfield290
@alexfield290 Жыл бұрын
It's not mention here, but one of the investigators theorized the captain had pulled the CVR's circuit breaker on purpose (as pulling it practically makes no noise) in order to prevent further conversations about the fuel situation being recorded.
@AndrePereira-tw5vs
@AndrePereira-tw5vs 4 жыл бұрын
It was not the first time that the killer commander flew with the fuel running out, the other times it worked and he did it again even wrong, stupid killer.
@sharksman20rocks
@sharksman20rocks 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do BEA flight 548?
@khkartc
@khkartc 4 жыл бұрын
Operating an airline on a shoestring budget, together with the pilot’s being a substantial shareholder in the company, is a recipe for disaster.
@virginiafry9854
@virginiafry9854 4 жыл бұрын
Taking 2 hours to reach a cruising altitude of 30,000 ft would use up a lot of fuel!
@jl5529
@jl5529 4 жыл бұрын
I vividly remember the day I learned about this crash
@ZC_Offcials
@ZC_Offcials 4 жыл бұрын
Are there any BAe 146/Avro RJ100 in production?
@pup1008
@pup1008 4 жыл бұрын
Nope!
@ZC_Offcials
@ZC_Offcials 4 жыл бұрын
But why Skyjet ordered their first BAe 146/Avro RJ in 2012?
@ZC_Offcials
@ZC_Offcials 4 жыл бұрын
And SWISS ordered their first BAe 146/Avro RJ in 2002?
@skunksecond
@skunksecond 4 жыл бұрын
What were the names of the people who survived the crash?
@Harley08
@Harley08 4 жыл бұрын
So sad. Rest In Peace to all the passengers who lost their lives. ✝️
@Harley08
@Harley08 4 жыл бұрын
Ego is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. * Booker T. Washington *
@FabJK4
@FabJK4 4 жыл бұрын
Inmediatly after the accident went public, Atlético Nacional wanted Conmebol to proclaim Chapecoense as champion of the Copa Sudamericana 2016. No even a single person in this planet had a different opinion. Por siempre en nuestras memorias, todos los que perecieron en el vuelo 2933. RIP
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