Allied Echo Long-Term Review: Gravel Bike / Road Bike All-In-One?

[@AOL0321]

Love that Aussie Gold color! Looking at this bike now vs. the Revel, Open, Santa Cruz, and Ibis gravel bikes.

[@roscoebertsch7109]

I would love to know a bit more about putting on 650b wheels, how that affected the bike, tire clearnce, any adjustments necessary in making that change, and your thoughts on making that modification.

[@fkrr5]

Love the BSA bottom bracket. I'm never going to get a BB30 or push in BB again.

[@BlackWaterCyclist]

Great review JOM! I really like the idea of bikes that can do road and gravel like this. The Aussie colors are great! I just thought the cicadas was outside my house when watching the video 😁. I could see myself being lazy and only doing the front flip chip to make the front end steeper for road.

[@Wesrl]

I am getting a new secret not release bike in May but it is probably going to be released by then since the race season for it starts soon. I am planning on doing the same thing with two wheelsets.

[@dano1486]

Great review, seems like a LOT of work and small pieces to keep track of. I appreciate the Allied ethos, but cannot personally stomach the prices. I wish some of these truly innovative companies would produce AL versions.

[@blaiselassiter2215]

Great review! How did it ride with the 650b wheels?

[@joshschrader4732]

Would you say the dropout reversal position is a dramatic change or more of a subtle one? Do you actually change positions and if so when and why?

[@GravelCyclist]

Subtle, I would leave the bike in gravel mode much of the time, others may prefer to switch about.

[@vinn1mao257]

That’s pretty cool setup on the wheel change.

[@blocheadz]

Nice one Jom.

[@GravelCyclist]

Thanks Ben!

[@howlinhauler]

what flight case do you use ? looks like you can keep bars installed?

[@GravelCyclist]

EVOC Road Bike Bag Pro... I have a review on the channel of this case.

[@SenorGonzo]

For that price you can buy two decent bikes that do their job much better (at least the gravel part).

[@DaveCM]

Especially the last thing I want to do is spend 15 minutes before each ride switching my bike back and forth between gravel setup and road setup. Then you will have wear from the constant changing back and forth. I've even gotten so lazy that my road bike still has the climbing setup and it was 3 months ago when I was in the mountains with it. LOL!

[@SenorGonzo]

@@DaveCM That problem can easily be solved by buying a dedicated climbing bike. Think of all the time saved not having to change cassettes etc.

[@DaveCM]

@@SenorGonzo OMG! You right! I have to go buy another bike now!

[@jeanbaptiste224]

Hey Jom, What is the real width of the 38 panaracer on this set up? 40? 42 actual width would fit Fr & Bck? Thanks!

[@GravelCyclist]

Hi Jean, about 40mm. 42 actual width would fit, good room on the rear, the front, it will work but be tight.

[@jeanbaptiste224]

@@GravelCyclist thanks Jom!

[@elephantcup]

Outstanding review and content as always, but I'm struggling to understand how changing the chips in the fork and rear end changed the effective (or actual) top tube length. I think you mentioned that. Gotta say as well, comments (rooted firmly in truth and reality for sure) that an owner of this bike might try to use an adjustable wrench to work on it because they don't have the proper sized wrench, make my blood boil. So, you say you have a $10,000 bicycle but somehow can't go to Home Depot and spend $10 on a few wrenches to properly work on it? Many people spending $10k on a bike would take it to the bike shop and pay to have a mechanic flip the chips though, such is their utter worthlessness. I see Pinarello/ Colnago guys who take their entire bike (not just the wheel) into a bike shop to have them repair a flat tire.

[@GravelCyclist]

Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it. You figured this out already, the adjustable wrench segment was recorded on behalf of those who insist on not using proper tools. I forgot to include a snippet of the tool that Allied supply with the bike for the headset pre-load and chip removal, but there is a photo of it in the related article on the GravelCyclist.com website.

[@JoshMcGehee]

Yeah.....I want one.

[@pmcmpc]

I'm not sure there's really a point to the flip chips. It's not quick enough (especially when DB fettling is factored in) for anybody to do with any frequency, and almost anybody in the market for a bike (or frameset) this dear, is likely to have enough disposable income (and space) for a gravel and road bike. Seems like "we did it because we could".

[@SenorGonzo]

Taking one step back would have solved the sweaty ball problem. The solution was right behind you all along.

[@GravelCyclist]

Haha, well noted :)

[@melaniezed2585]

Like Dorothy in her ruby slippers 😊

[@pantwone8469]

lol.... love the outro.... lol

[@MrSzwarz]

You can always have mechanical shifting if you like it, I have done it with 2023 TIME. Just by using compressionless cables without any modification to the frameset. This changing geometry "trick" has been done several years ago by Polish bike brand Rondo on almost all of their bikes. Allied bikes are far too expensive, it reaches price of super bikes but doesn't offer anything beyond regular layup carbon, or special" feature or design.

[@GravelCyclist]

Indeed, I recorded a video of the Rondo brand at Sea Otter a few years ago. Pretty much everyone copied their idea.

[@daviddelgadovendrell]

Elite bikers Vs Popular ones (like videos about Porsche, Lamborghini, Bentley... Vs. Skoda, Renault, GM, ).

[@GravelCyclist]

No, this is a review of a bicycle. People aka cyclists (not "bikers", they ride motorcycles) are free to choose and ride whatever they desire.

[@bikemike1118]

Oh, only USD 11.000.- … well that’s a true bargain. Think I get one for each weekday!

[@museves]

I hate all in one bike.... my wife will say, you have one bike to rule them all

[@GravelCyclist]

Hahaha, nice. You must be a believer of N+1. I have no wife, so there is N+4 :)

[@jevgeniardassov]

To be honest looks like “ You can go out to the space, you will just need to build a rocket, yourself” kind of proposition. Thanks, but no thanks.

[@fadenseiden]

Not sure if made in the U.S. is a good thing

[@fkrr5]

Lol, not much good happening in the country now.

[@melaniezed2585]

🇺🇸♥️

[@matthewrogers7038]

Ignorant comment