(Almost) Useless AoE2: DE Info - Volume II

[@ajbdkla3652]

This is why sicilians are OP against cannon galleons, since their converted mamelukes don't take as much bonus damage.

[@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge]

now build palissade all around the lake and on the relic starting location. It will reappear... in your appartment!

[@aniruddhbhatkal1834]

"We'll see how British longbows fare against French Cannon!"

[@DCdabest]

Incredibly well as it turns out.

[@Lampredi4]

0:48 the exception to the general rule of stat progressions with upgrades with regards to the scout line’s speed (2:02), the knight line’s attack speed (3:32), and the Chukonu’s slower ROF (5:17). 6:15 monks, relics, and deaths 12:26 the elite cannon galleon’s bonus attack against different units 17:40 converting unique buildings

[@koolguy751]

We ALL know why the light cav is slower than scout cav:It's that shiny armour. 11

[@mosatsoni4324]

This is very useful. I'll use it in my next job interview.

[@yhlee1205]

Ornlu: 12:45 Spanish: sure... only buildings

[@soko-ban]

Regarding the first funfact, as far as I'm aware (and as far as the wiki is to be trusted) Arbs actually have an ever so slightly higher Frame Delay than Xbows (20 compared to 15 in the new DE numbers)!

[@krystofcisar469]

That would make sense.The original arbalests were late medieval, very strong unwieldy crossbows which needed the external lever or even pulley to be drawn. With draw weights from 150 to 600kilograms they sometimes needed two guys and big shield to be effectively used in open battle. No wonder genoese do such bonus damage with them

[@NoraNoita]

The scout is faster because it wears less armour obviously. The Paladin wears heavier unwieldier armour than Knights and Chevalier. The elite Chu ko nu has to reload more arrows into the chamber. The Relic one makes sense to me, at least when we think how coding works and making fail saves with if clauses, for the last one we'd have to see the code to know exactly what the spawn conditions are, I assume something like spawning it close to the middle of the map coordinations. great info. This will help in my next tournament qualifier

[@EzioIlMentore]

Scout Cav: *DJ Khaled Suffering from Success*

[@torontoclarinetist]

I always had the suspicion that the lighter the armour, the faster the unit. Glad to have it confirmed now.

[@Camurgladius]

Scouts being faster than light cavalry brings to mind the Teutons lacking that upgrade, thus "locking" them at the slightly higher base speed--however since they *also* lack Husbandry, every other scoutline will eventually outspeed them again except Vikings'. This should keep them just a bit faster than "medium" speed cavalry (cav archers, Keshiks, etc) even after Husbandry is researched.

[@dasmeister7502]

You could have had your enemies set to see you as an ally in the last fact scenario

[@jatei1735]

16:02 maybe because camels are ships (or were in the past). Would be my guess.

[@OrnLu_AoE]

Yeah but they don't get bonus damage vs ships either lol

[@soko-ban]

@@OrnLu_AoE wait, really? that makes Spanish Cannon Galleons a lot worse than I thought

[@kishorbhaimehta4609]

The wolf has a new random video! Yay! I am watching and liking!!!!!!

[@DCdabest]

The Paladin one I th8nk is intentional as having them attack that fast with all the other benefits of the upgrade means they are *slightly* overtuned. They then start to really demolish their counters in fights that they shouldn't along with buildings which they oughta have a bit more difficulty killing.

[@NivMizzet89]

I doubt it. If it was intentional it wouldn't be this insignificant.

[@DCdabest]

@@NivMizzet89 It doesn't quite show in this test but when you get more Paladins together then that slight bit of extra speed begins to add up. The DPS output starts to get a bit intense. That said; it could be a hangover from the pre-Age of Conquerors days when we didn't have Halberdiers. So I'd love to see the history of that particular curiosity.

[@Woppettier]

@@DCdabest I've always remembered reading somewhere this is for balance purposes (don't know whether that writer has it from an original source ofc though). Nowadays people don't give credit, but I feel like the original creators thought about the game much more than we would like to admit. If you look at the major mechanics and balance changes from the beginning, it isn't all /that/ much. The attack speed doesn't seem that difficult to change, someone could always test the signifance if they'd had time on their hands, anything else is just bluff

[@peters.778]

The relic thingy is not completely useless. If you convert a transport ship with a monk in it AND have your own monk close to the spawn point of the relic AND a villager close to the shoreline, you can wall the shoreline, delete the transport and pick up the relic at the original location.

[@kesiazezebajki1982]

Ok step 4, what if you lose a monk with a relic on board of the ship... while the entire map is blocked? Harbour make sense as it's a different building than a Dock so if every nation had access to Serjeants , but only Sicilians could make then in Donjons, other nations would not be able to do so.

[@BahisBilimi]

For the first fun fact, I was expecting something like "chemistry downgrades the mangonel line attack rate" 11

[@OrnLu_AoE]

That used to be the case back in AoC, and even then only for Onagers specifically. In a similar vein, Fervor used to only affect monks that were carrying relics :P

[@brix7799]

Does Sultans efects a converted feitoria?

[@Soas_Records_Official]

Good question!

[@einbenutzenderbenutzer]

I dont need sleep, I need answers

[@brix7799]

@@einbenutzenderbenutzer same goes for keshiks :)

[@SIGNOR-G]

*Strawhat Ornlu* isnt real and cant hurt you: *Strawhat Ornlu:*

[@OrnLu_AoE]

It's called "Cornlu" dammit! ;)

[@Reluxthelegend]

20:20 I think that 600 might be a holdover from aoe1 and its trading mechanic no?

[@OrnLu_AoE]

That's what TriRem said, and I trust him lol

[@emilyding2496]

@@OrnLu_AoE , why would that exist in aoe2 through? Trade is unlimited in this game.

[@saccaron]

I have seen that too rarely (bugs?) for docks and trading posts. I think that was before DE.

[@Reluxthelegend]

@@emilyding2496 Because Aoe2 was built upon directly from aoe1, they simply deactivated some aoe1 parts that were no longer relevant but they still appear from tiem to time from bugs

[@emilyding2496]

@@Reluxthelegend , wow, I did not know that! Cool fact! DOes that mean they share the same game engine?

[@Hainaut183]

Converting the Portuguese Feitorias is the only way you can harvest additional resources in Bayinnaung 5.

[@OrnLu_AoE]

Do they not have Heresy? They are in Imp already

[@Hainaut183]

@@OrnLu_AoE Not in that mission. It seems Filthy knew to switch the tech off for those smart enough to consider the strategy. Too bad it's ridiculously hard securing those Feitorias, considering the Portuguese are tucked away and protected by a bunch of Bombard Towers and the combined navies of the Portuguese and Rakhine. If you defeat the Vietnamese Rakhine at the start of the mission though, it does become a viable strategy.

[@mqayyum9226]

harbor workers: alright old man stop chanting we will join your religion Monk: great, can you make me a transport? harbor workers: (in new language) how do you that?

[@ajbdkla3652]

Can you go over 200 pop with the converted fetoria? If so, in a diplo team game you could have one player build fetorias and another player convert them ad infinitum then sling the resources around.

[@OrnLu_AoE]

Yes you can go over 200 pop with converted Feitorias, but remember that you cannot train any units at that point until you drop below 200 pop lol

[@SM-bb4hx]

I think Paladin's slower firing rate compared to Knight and Cavalier is actually intentional.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

it used to be possible to convert a krepost but an update disabled this option. Though it you just sent a zerg rush of monks you could expect to lose around 20 monks before converting it. I wonder when they'll patch the donjon to do the same.

[@matthewmcneany]

If I cased in all my channel points I wouldn't get this many Random AoE2 facts.

[@aniruddhbhatkal1834]

"Do you accept our Lord and savior, Ornlu?"

[@diosn6909]

Useful or not, I enjoyed this video, more fun than I expected actually.

[@OrnLu_AoE]

I am glad to have mildly entertained you for 20 minutes of your life!

[@robinhoodlumberjack1748]

Also Elite Kamayuk has +1 att against mamelukes (only elite version)

[@futurealigned]

Top content !

[@jisola2]

How did u get the old main menu interface?? EDIT: found it! For anyone interested, look for a mod named "[Anne_HK] Old Main Menu".

[@kartiksaraf4676]

If you were Sicilians instead of saracens(assuming they get redemption) I wonder if you would be able to create sergents

[@adventuresofavalon2477]

That first one wasn't a bug. It was intentional because Hussars and Light Cavalry have heavier armour so they have more hp than Scout Cavalry

[@RobbieDPL]

How does converting a Feitoria affect the gold/food trickle rates for Burgundians?

[@OrnLu_AoE]

It doesn't whatsoever! Their trickles are from relics (extra food) and farms (extra gold)... neither of which are Feitorias 11

[@RobbieDPL]

@@OrnLu_AoE Yes, but if Feitoria provides trickles for all four resource types? Does this mean the Burgundians' trickles for food and gold are faster than wood & stone if they have three sources for the food & gold trickles (farms, relics & the converted Feitoria)?

[@RageFireMaster]

So a Camel, despite gaining armor by the CAVALRY armor upgrades, they dont actually count as cavalry?

[@OrnLu_AoE]

That is correct!

[@RageFireMaster]

@@OrnLu_AoE 11 this game :D

[@krotenschemel8558]

so, were will the relic spawn if the entire map is full of buildings?

[@ashmonkey2572]

Here i am thinking he would show us how to adjust the volume :D Then i realized this video is 21 mins long.

[@peters.778]

what happens if you are Malay and convert a harbor without having researched harbors yourself? Is it still possible to build ships in this case?

[@OrnLu_AoE]

Nope! To build ships, you need to have Thalassocracy researched

[@robchang4533]

But what happens if there is no land tile left for the relic to spawn ? Ornlu we demand complete info :P

[@kouron]

There needs to be Relic Respawn 2: Electric Boogaloo

[@abhuyllongfellow4233]

What if a Malay monk converts another Malay harbor? That's what I need to know to achieve true happiness in life 🙃

[@piggysew797]

paladins look like they have a wooden shield whilst knights and cavaliers have metal ones. Weird visually for a unit that is better

[@dasmeister7502]

Eh, it's not worse than the many other moments of AOE2 logic such as plumed archers being more armored than Long swordsmen

[@canaksu5290]

Ornlu play the new saracens campaign in mods campaign

[@shepardthemailman]

Can you convert a Feitoria if you are already max pop?

[@OrnLu_AoE]

Yup! Same as any other unit. It's just that usually you would go up to 201/200 pop, but with a Feitoria you are going up to 220/200 pop.

[@erikur72]

Doesn't war galleys move slower than regular galleys?

[@krystofcisar469]

I think yes but that much and after careening they are defo faster...

[@refur230]

So iron clad helps against Canongalleons

[@OrnLu_AoE]

Yup! Also, Mangonels and Bombard Cannons deal melee damage like Cannon Galleons, whereas Scorpions and Trebuchets deal pierce damage (like archers)

[@navinkumarpk86]

What’s the mod for his loading page?

[@petermari8299]

Which one is that main menu?

[@BlueBirdgg]

The volume of your videos is a little lower than the average on the internet.

[@thenayancat8802]

Chemistry also makes onager projectiles slower, which is kind of a downgrade

[@mercenarymudcrab]

This was patched with the HD Edition.