AlpenFury Capacity Analysis & Thoughts - Canada's Wonderland's New 2025 Roller Coaster

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@MidcourseDiscourse
@MidcourseDiscourse 5 ай бұрын
I feel like not enough people are talking about how much of a departure this is from (legacy) Cedar Fair’s recent track record of “safe” additions. Family coasters, B&Ms… it’s so refreshing to see just a crazy and unexpected ride taking shape!
@toxicghoul238
@toxicghoul238 5 ай бұрын
It’s post merger so there’s a chance this was also six flags idea
@Onion742
@Onion742 5 ай бұрын
Means KI has a chance at getting a Mack Xtreme spinner in the Vortex plot 🙏
@MidcourseDiscourse
@MidcourseDiscourse 5 ай бұрын
@@toxicghoul238I’m sure there could be some say either way, but a project of this scale has definitely been in the works for quite some time, likely before the merger was closing
@gtonyxkid2012
@gtonyxkid2012 5 ай бұрын
@@toxicghoul238I doubt it. Since it was announced this year and opening in 2025, this project has probably been in the works for the last 2-3 years. Takes 9-12 months for manufacturing, 6-9 months for installation. Manufacturing and installation can somewhat overlap but planing and working with the manufacturer on a design/concept etc is usually 1-2 year process not counting the legality side of things such as zoning, permits, getting the project approved by the city. I’d say this process and project started in 2022
@namevone
@namevone 5 ай бұрын
@@toxicghoul238 Construction on this started way before the merger was finalized
@pan4909
@pan4909 5 ай бұрын
As someone whos home park is Canadas Wonderland, I dont think it ruins the mountain. We're all coaster lovers here and I love nothing more than seeing tracks and supports in every place possible, it just shows you what you're here for.
@flaffstar_99
@flaffstar_99 5 ай бұрын
The mountain is also really ugly so who cares
@SharkyTheBoss1216
@SharkyTheBoss1216 5 ай бұрын
Same, Vortex is so much fun and goes over the mountains and I think AlpenFury will be such a good addition.
@johnboulanger807
@johnboulanger807 4 ай бұрын
It’s also just the back of the mountain. Does not impede the view from the front so I have no issues with it
@coastercube838
@coastercube838 5 ай бұрын
Millennium force isn’t just getting a new lift motor but also a whole new computer/ operating system to improve reliability
@Sonic-gy7kq
@Sonic-gy7kq 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully not from Zamperla😅😅😅
@coastercube838
@coastercube838 5 ай бұрын
@@Sonic-gy7kq it better not be
@TrueLies23
@TrueLies23 5 ай бұрын
​@@Sonic-gy7kq an original thought would be a great start, and a great finish would be a better understanding of the industry so you don't make the same tired, repeated joke in ways that make no sense. Look up Sew Eurodrive if you want to know where the lift motor is likely coming from.
@Ddilly
@Ddilly 5 ай бұрын
@@TrueLies23girl who hurt you LMAOOO
@TrueLies23
@TrueLies23 5 ай бұрын
@@Ddilly that's the kind of immature comment I'd expect from someone lacking intelligence.
@mack_r-s
@mack_r-s 5 ай бұрын
Somehow you find a way to sneak that damn block zone speech into every fucking video you upload. It's actually hilarious.
@JS-wi9mw
@JS-wi9mw 5 ай бұрын
a bonafide signature if ever there was one!
@PimpMasterT
@PimpMasterT 5 ай бұрын
It's always like "oh god here it comes" and it's equally hilarious every time.
@dominicjannazo7144
@dominicjannazo7144 5 ай бұрын
I assume he starts every script with it then works out how to get there
@PixelmechanicYYZ
@PixelmechanicYYZ 5 ай бұрын
That multi faith space was demolished some time ago. It was actually thunder run's old station building, from when it was located outside the mountain and called Blauer Enzian
@Ninja1live
@Ninja1live 5 ай бұрын
it was just moved. By strollers rental.
@JAXXNCREATED
@JAXXNCREATED 5 ай бұрын
Glad you pushed this out fast cause I wanted to hear your in depth take on the capacity of this coaster. Also, I think the fire serpent roll looks awesome in the mountain sight line.
@1DimpleFTW
@1DimpleFTW 5 ай бұрын
SO glad you put this out so fast, obsessed with your videos! Some insight from a Toronto-based rollercoaster enthusiast: A little worried about this queue wait time to be honest, hopefully they get creative. I'm pretty sure Leviathan and Behemoth premiered without seatbelts as well, but then they were added in. Wonder Mountain's Guardian used to operate with paid lockers and they only recently worked out a system to eliminate those so HOPEFULLY they can implement it straight away this time. SO excited to get our own launch coaster!
@CZsWorld
@CZsWorld 5 ай бұрын
This looks awesome. I hope the launch is good. Full Throttle is awesome, but West Coast Racers is weak af. The elements look great too.
@Sonic-gy7kq
@Sonic-gy7kq 5 ай бұрын
West coast racers is pretty weak. Its just aight. Its like a family coaster when that wasn't the intetion. Thats its problem. The launches on full throttle are great, but like everyone else says... it needs the other half of its layout😭
@JungleJetAviation06
@JungleJetAviation06 5 ай бұрын
If Full Throttle had WCR’s second half it would be a perfect launch coaster. Full Throttle’s launch is flawless and smooth, it’s just missing its second half.
@Mayfired
@Mayfired 5 ай бұрын
You better ring that death bell 😉
@YourLocalCoasterEnthusiast
@YourLocalCoasterEnthusiast 5 ай бұрын
still can’t believe your a thoosie @CZsWorld lol
@DeziXD
@DeziXD 5 ай бұрын
I have a seasons pass to Wonderland but haven't heard much about this ride at all! When you get to the park all they have is two small screens displaying the demo videos you've shown here. Followed with the words "Canada's newest longest, tallest, coaster!" Really informative video! Thank you! I wish they shared more information with people actually visiting the park.
@maverickheartlineroll
@maverickheartlineroll 5 ай бұрын
Premier COOKED bro, this is definitely gonna be their best coaster
@jasoncolliver3648
@jasoncolliver3648 5 ай бұрын
agree. i was bummed when we found out a few months ago it was a premier but this looks like it could be a great ride.
@terg8472
@terg8472 5 ай бұрын
@@jasoncolliver3648 yeah i was fuming cause i thought it would be some gimmick like a skyrocket. even better that there wont be no comfort collars
@ICU306
@ICU306 4 ай бұрын
@@terg8472 I guess you guys haven’t ridden full throttle or ice breaker. This is like ice breaker x10
@dolljuliet_h2301
@dolljuliet_h2301 5 ай бұрын
I have a friend who’s actually working on designing the ride. This is gonna look insane along the mountain
@BOOSETO
@BOOSETO 5 ай бұрын
It's already under construction. The designing was done years ago..
@samuelitooooo
@samuelitooooo 2 ай бұрын
Premier Rides also adopting that fast-paced design influenced by RMC and being implemented by Intamin, Mack, and Vekoma. I love how the out-and-back intertwines with itself though, and the Fire Serpent Roll looks absolutely badass. How easy would it be to modify the track later on to accommodate a third train? (Seems far easier than adding a second one to Flash: Vertical Velocity.)
@tc6818
@tc6818 5 ай бұрын
Came for the block zones. Was not disappointed.
@SquishyMon
@SquishyMon 5 ай бұрын
2:45 there used to be a small church in Knott's Berry Farm which was relocated across the street to make room for Silver Bullet
@rushtest4echo737
@rushtest4echo737 5 ай бұрын
I was going to say the same thing! There were actually two churches there, there was The Little White Church that got moved across the street but the mission style church was razed. Silver Bullet really destroyed that quiet area of the park.
@culture_clash
@culture_clash 5 ай бұрын
Holy crap! This coaster looks INSANE! What a treat for the Canada's Wonderland locals and a definite top-tier addition. Its interaction with the mountain, including its main launch going through it is freaking SWEET. This is just what they needed since their lineup has quite a few junk coasters that need to be offset by prime additions like this. Well done.
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if this overtakes Yukon Striker for the 3rd best in this park 😊😊 Behemoth, Leviathan, Yukon Striker, and AlpenFury all are just amazing.
@JD-rox
@JD-rox Ай бұрын
@@TonyKimtheamusementparkfanI think it’ll be number 1 at the park just because of how different it is from the other 3 B&Ms
@SpiderWaffle
@SpiderWaffle 5 ай бұрын
Agree with Ryan's block zones! Wish the trains had four cars instead of 3, or different new trains altogether.
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 5 ай бұрын
I think one of the biggest things that we should take from this is that Canada's Wonderland and Premier Rides really outdid themselves with this roler coaster. I mean I knew Premier Rides could probably do this, but it's nice to see that Canada's Wonderland wanted to work with them to see what they could do with the space. And they delivered! Plus this ride looks soooooo cool with it interacting with different pathways and with Wonder Mountain. I really want this ride to be a success for the park, and I think it will. Canada's Wonderland already gets really large crowds, so no doubt that this will be achieved. But yes, capacity will be affected because of the fact that there are only 2 trains and the trains are not really large. I mean the trains on Backlot Stunt Coaster are not the largest, so Idk how the Sky Rocket trains will feel, but I can't imagine they would feel any bigger.
@bigpboy1012
@bigpboy1012 5 ай бұрын
Wonder Mountain's Guardian began using the movable bin system that Yukon Striker has earlier this year. While I haven't been, I understand that park staff were very particular about what bags were and were not allowed on the ride (with anything that couldn't ride with you had to go into a locker).
@Daniel_Coasters
@Daniel_Coasters 5 ай бұрын
Wooo more block sections!!!! And another great video!!
@Sonic-gy7kq
@Sonic-gy7kq 5 ай бұрын
These are the types of roller coasters we need. Intamin blitz style coasters are genuinely up there with RMCs when done right like Maverick. Mack tends to make them boring, but Premier, S&S, Intamin, and more companies im forgetting do them really well.
@HumanStateOfEmergency
@HumanStateOfEmergency 5 ай бұрын
This ride is beautiful. Off ride shots in the animation make me love it even more. Im obsessed with the floating support that connects to both of the roll tracks and the structure, shape and size of the supports sutaining the inverted top hat. Specially the right one that continues all the way down supporting the rest of the drop. 😍 I think Premier supports are my favorite. I have new appreciation for Premier.
@austintayloradt
@austintayloradt 4 ай бұрын
Was at Cedar Point this past weekend and they were running 2 trains with probably 2 minute dispatches...checking seat belt and not allowing guests to pull down lap bar similar to Steel Vengeance - I really hope that improves next year, it's a capacity killer
@sublee2524
@sublee2524 5 ай бұрын
TIME TO GO BACK TO THE WONDERLAND
@jamescruz8678
@jamescruz8678 5 ай бұрын
I was hoping RMC would rework any one of Wonderland's wooden coasters but THIS has the potential to be WAY better.
@JS-wi9mw
@JS-wi9mw 5 ай бұрын
fingers croxxed for a retrack rmc style of wildebeast in next few years. would kick the park into the higher tiers in terms of coaster attractions
@First-Drop-Studios
@First-Drop-Studios 5 ай бұрын
@@JS-wi9mwwildebeast is fun they should retrack Minebuster
@jamescruz8678
@jamescruz8678 5 ай бұрын
@@JS-wi9mw Out of all the wooden coasters there, Wild Beast would be the one I hope to get it IMHO. Fun but super uncomfortable.
@SpiderWaffle
@SpiderWaffle 5 ай бұрын
You should make a short, compilation of different people fumbling and struggling to get into and out of premier trains with the comfort collar failing about, shoulders elbows contorting to move them, and shins and feet not fitting.
@k9feces
@k9feces 5 ай бұрын
I have long legs and big feet, it takes some time 😂
@SpiderWaffle
@SpiderWaffle 5 ай бұрын
@@k9feces I'm pretty normal sized guy, very limber and agile, I've got in these seats over 30 times. last time I tried to get in sky rocket 2, I couldn't get my outside foot in, had to stop and think for a second, then had to use my hands to pull up my knee to get foot really high so I could turn it and get it in.
@NumbChuckles
@NumbChuckles 5 ай бұрын
I was already planning to go on a Canada trip, this just gives me a reason to push it back to the summer rather than the spring.
@kylesouthworth4963
@kylesouthworth4963 5 ай бұрын
Wonderland is my home park, if you go End of May midweek when school is in, you’ll get the shortest lines. Waterpark wouldn’t be open yet though.
@JS-wi9mw
@JS-wi9mw 5 ай бұрын
@@kylesouthworth4963 agreed. though i did go the day after Victoria Day Monday and it was lively but not busy. fast pass allowed me to walk on all rides immediately all day long so a regular admission would still get you on the rides in under 15 mins.
@soviut303
@soviut303 5 ай бұрын
Wonderland really should consider expanding more into their copious parking lots. Turn some of that ugly sea of asphalt into usable space for guests and attractions. They've already done that with the Leviathan coaster and It would mean not having to overlap so many rides in such a tight space.
@Fox_on_a_Rollercoaster
@Fox_on_a_Rollercoaster 5 ай бұрын
I like the amounts of heartline rolls. Many are criticizing the repetitive rolls, but lets be honest: Most people think multiple airtime hills are fine, so why not heartline rolls?
@AmusementLabs
@AmusementLabs 5 ай бұрын
That sprawling layout though...🔥 I'm definitely gonna make a LightRides board of this, even just for me.
@josephschiavo644
@josephschiavo644 5 ай бұрын
Drink everytime you hear the phrase "upside down air time" lol
@The_JVH
@The_JVH 5 ай бұрын
Awesome review as always! Absolutely stoked about this ride
@ItsRevyDutch
@ItsRevyDutch 5 ай бұрын
Great analysis! Quick comment about lockers at 11:22 tho: wonder mountain's guardian when it first opened only had lockers available (it was a huge complaint at the time). I worked there the season that ride opened and the only reason I was able to save the 5 bucks on a locker was because I knew the people operating the ride so they could hold onto my stuff lol. since then i'm pretty sure they've added bins, but it's been a very long time since i've been on the ride.
@miotch8225
@miotch8225 5 ай бұрын
They now have the conveyor belt bin things like on yukon striker
@fantasy8833
@fantasy8833 5 ай бұрын
do you know if AlpenFury will have bins or lockers?
@ItsRevyDutch
@ItsRevyDutch 5 ай бұрын
@@fantasy8833 no idea unfortunately, I worked there until 2017
@romelmerriman6781
@romelmerriman6781 5 ай бұрын
As always great video my guy! I couldn’t wait to watch and hear your opinion on AlpenFury. I’m with you on the capacity either way this new attraction but the ride itself looks amazing. I can’t wait to finally get to Canada’s Wonderland and experience all of their amazing looking coasters and to enjoy the park as a whole.
@F7COASTERS
@F7COASTERS 5 ай бұрын
Yes block zone lesson incoming
@dlopez8104
@dlopez8104 5 ай бұрын
im so hyped as a wonderland local. ive been on skyrocket 2s and although the trains r bad the rest of the layout is super forceful so hopefully that carries over here
@thefrenchcommander5770
@thefrenchcommander5770 5 ай бұрын
As a kings dominion local, I’m very very very very very very jealous
@swifttttt
@swifttttt 5 ай бұрын
Cedar Fair and Premier out here making me finally get my passport this looks like such an insane layout, if the pacing is as fast as in the render itll be an elite ride fs
@theworstisover1323
@theworstisover1323 5 ай бұрын
Six Flags Great Adventure is my home park, so I can normally only make it about halfway through videos like this where a park is getting a new custom layout coaster. I start out happy for them and then remember it's been 18 YEARS since we got one. For Kings Dominion 50th anniversary - Custom layout launched wing coaster For Great Adventure 50th anniversary - low capacity boomerang that they got cheap because the original buyer had to back out. Oh almost forgot, probably won't even open in 2024 so I guess it's for our 51st anniversary now.
@RideTheRollerCoasterMarcus1994
@RideTheRollerCoasterMarcus1994 5 ай бұрын
what is cool about Alenfury is it's gotta a hint of maxxforce sprinkled in it's layout so it's very creative so kudos to C.W.
@trentrissubsidiary4619
@trentrissubsidiary4619 5 ай бұрын
Surprised he didn’t talk about this, I was thinking the same thing. Both the fire serpent roll and the dual inverting element Ryan compared to a cobra roll partway through the layout remind me of the “dog tongue” element on Maxx Force, just reshapen a bit. The more I look at the layout the more I can appreciate the difference between most of the inversions. Hoping it’s a success.
@DeziXD
@DeziXD 5 ай бұрын
This also will bring Canada's Wonderland back up to 2nd for most coasters at a park!
@bertorrrr
@bertorrrr 5 ай бұрын
until another 5 years where they take down time warp and flight deck for a mach compact mark my words.
@blufrd
@blufrd 4 ай бұрын
I visited Canada's Wonderland a bit ago and was surprised to see the faith space already gone in person, since it was something I remember using in my childhood with my family. On the bright side though, I did spot a new one (at least I think it's new) to the left of the entrance so I doubt there's any issues.
@MyWeeWeeIsLong
@MyWeeWeeIsLong 13 күн бұрын
It’s not gone, it just got relocated near the lost and found/stroller rental location (I work there).
@camdenhochgesang6554
@camdenhochgesang6554 5 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the sightline issues. It looks better and more dynamic with the coaster behind it.
@Honorarius
@Honorarius 5 ай бұрын
The multifaith space was moved before the start of this season
@rixrobin
@rixrobin 5 ай бұрын
This is the first premier rides coaster at a former cedar fair park built by cedar fair. Another effect of the merger! (The backlot stunt coasters & flight of fears were built were built by the paramount parks)
@acowwithlegs
@acowwithlegs 5 ай бұрын
The merger barely happened I’m sure this has been planned for months
@jasonkloos6348
@jasonkloos6348 5 ай бұрын
I don't think this ride had anything to do with the merger. This has been in the works design wise for at a minimum of a full year, probably closer to two years.
@asswipe-fl7hq
@asswipe-fl7hq 5 ай бұрын
Even if it doesn't necessarily make the ride safer, I'd still FEEL safer with some kinda secondary restraint
@TheNinjaDC
@TheNinjaDC 5 ай бұрын
I remember seeing another inter-faith room near the park entrance on my recent visit. So it was already moved/had another sister location.
@Mayfired
@Mayfired 5 ай бұрын
8:53 HE SAID IT!!!! HE DID THE THING!!!!
@DeziXD
@DeziXD 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting they're introducing another launch coaster but just discontinued some of the cars on the BackLot Stunt Coaster. They said the launch was overwhelming their power system with all the cars. But are releasing another launch coaster? Hopefully power issues are figured out by 2025 or I could see this ride going down a few times
@athenaclark2567
@athenaclark2567 5 ай бұрын
When I first saw the POV I was also concerned about the ride’s capacity, especially given the park it’s going to be in. Glad someone else shares my concerns, but this does look like one hell of a ride!
@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102
@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 5 ай бұрын
5:45 I think of it as something akin to the Lagoon Roll on Cannibal.
@vwozone
@vwozone 5 ай бұрын
I think they are definitely going to end up putting lockers and metal detectors on this - that run down the side of International Street is going to pass right over a ton of foot traffic and covering it all in loose article protection would totally trash the look of the area
@bargemaster_band_fl
@bargemaster_band_fl 5 ай бұрын
I agree about the trains. It's real hard to look smooth getting in and out of them, especially when you're tall and like the back row. Busch Gardens Tampa should do this with Jungala and not a B&M hyper. I'd even accept a clone of Alpen Fury, but would prefer that the changes happen that Ryan suggested about amount of trains and an unloading station, because this as it is probably wouldn't have the capacity Busch Gardens Tampa would require.
@Julian-wv9sq
@Julian-wv9sq 5 ай бұрын
I like how they left room under the sky flyer loop for a future flat ride.
@justiceman2723
@justiceman2723 5 ай бұрын
It looks whippy already from the front, imagine that back row ride!
@CZsWorld
@CZsWorld 5 ай бұрын
Shouldn't be much different because it's a low to the ground launch coaster.
@justiceman2723
@justiceman2723 5 ай бұрын
@@CZsWorld I’ll touch you in the front row
@TheGamingG810
@TheGamingG810 5 ай бұрын
The funniest part about alpen fury is that it was somehow #1 trending for gaming for some time and now it is still #2
@mike20230
@mike20230 5 ай бұрын
I’d be willing to bet the transfer track, maintenance, and storage facility will be located in the mountain and not attached to the load station due to space constraints.
@jzckvsn
@jzckvsn 5 ай бұрын
Ride looks cool, I just wish premier had made new trains for this ride. I hate the way you have to twist your way into the train to get in and the restraints aren’t great.
@StephenDettling
@StephenDettling 5 ай бұрын
Would it be more accurate to call it “ejector hangtime” instead of “upside down ejector airtime”?
@MatecaCorp
@MatecaCorp 5 ай бұрын
The coaster itself looks so majestic! That capacity though…
@row9rides855
@row9rides855 5 ай бұрын
So this is where the rest of Maxx Force's layout went...
@DaveOxford-xm8xs
@DaveOxford-xm8xs 5 ай бұрын
I am totally looking forward to riding this thing. When I do, I’ll be close to 71 yrs. young. Biggest roller coaster enthusiast. Thx. Canada’s Wonderland. Make it 100% safe!!!
@someloser2847
@someloser2847 5 ай бұрын
This is at least a net capacity upgrade. More good attractions means more spread out crowds throughout the park
@matheuscastello6554
@matheuscastello6554 5 ай бұрын
this ride is straight outta nolimits2 and i love it for it
@jake9500
@jake9500 5 ай бұрын
RYAN CAN WE GET A THEME PARK MARVELS OR PROBLEMATIC ROLLER COASTERS ON VELOCICOASTER!?!?!
@markkalzer907
@markkalzer907 5 ай бұрын
I want to talk about the lesser talked about record, that being the amount of the actual ride that is visible from the station! I know this area quite well! You know that feeling of anticipation you get sneaking peaks at whatever elements you can see from the queue? Here, all you're going to see is the beginning the launches, and a bit of the trains coming back. This is not me compaining in the least! It's just an interesting observation. Has to be just about the lowest for any coaster that isn't also a dark ride! I'm sure we'll be treated to a regular accoustic of screams every launch! Now of course, you've still clearly gotten a great view of the ride walking from front gate so the point is mostly moot.
@johncunningham1889
@johncunningham1889 4 ай бұрын
I didn't think you'd be able to do it for this video, but the moment you mentioned number of trains, I knew it was coming. And sure enough "Now for those of you unfamiliar..." AND THERE IT IS! lmao
@Jcjc-lr4bf
@Jcjc-lr4bf 5 ай бұрын
This looks incredible. I’ve never seen anything so insane looking.
@radicalkonrad765
@radicalkonrad765 5 ай бұрын
This might be one of the greatest launch coaster in north America. Finally CW has a top notch stand out coaster.
@michaelcrofton6548
@michaelcrofton6548 5 ай бұрын
I went to Canada’s Wonderland within days of its opening. Skipped school with my buds and off we went. Maybe 1000 people there. Only 5 coasters then running 1 train and you didn’t have to get off.. instead you had to wait for more riders before dispatch. We rode Dragonfyre, Wyld Beast, the mighty Canadian Minebuster, or Spinebuster depending on your take on it. Later Top gun and Vortex and that stand up that was stellar front seat (can’t remember the name but heard it was 1 of two). It’s too crowded I’ve heard and hate to say it but patrons getting into situations in the lot at night when trying to get home. Glad to see it flourishing but honestly as bad as I wanna ride the new stuff.. I’ll stay home . Sometimes too much isn’t a good thing
@michaelcrofton6548
@michaelcrofton6548 5 ай бұрын
Skyrider.. took a minute
@miotch8225
@miotch8225 5 ай бұрын
​@michaelcrofton6548 yes skyrider, and it still exists in all its glory at a park in Italy
@michaelcrofton6548
@michaelcrofton6548 5 ай бұрын
@@miotch8225 heard it got relocated. Didn’t know where. Ciao Italia and they’re enjoying it I bet
@geoffreymiller5422
@geoffreymiller5422 5 ай бұрын
The "Sky Flyer Loop" actually gives off Fury 325 treble clef vibes. Looks like a solid layout and a great addition to CW. I do worry about capacity though as Premier coasters aren't known for high throughput. As mentioned, CW can get some insane crowds, so guaranteed this will have some long lines.
@jjupiter_nwn
@jjupiter_nwn 5 ай бұрын
I love watching these videos, even if I'm nowhere near north america so I'm definitely not gonna see these parks in a long while, hopefully one day!! At least I have some parks near me!
@ssuuss539
@ssuuss539 5 ай бұрын
8:55 HE SAID THE LINE!!!
@brianschulz7833
@brianschulz7833 5 ай бұрын
Layout looks god-tier, capacity looks god-awful tier. Still, this looks like it may be Premier’s magnum opus, and it’s a positive sign for the new combined Six Flags chain that they’re raking more risks with innovative ride layouts!
@faithjones1237
@faithjones1237 29 күн бұрын
It's been confirmed that the transfer track is going to be in the mountain as that's where the maintenance bay will be. Also, the Faith building got moved to the very front of the park near lost and found. 😊
@SunnylandProds
@SunnylandProds 5 ай бұрын
I think the capacity won’t be too big of an issue, because Busch Gardens and SeaWorld both have Skyrocket coasters that don’t have the best capacity, but their higher intensity level lessens the demand a bit. (Which of course is ironic when you’re talking about Ice Breaker which was supposed to be a family coaster)
@ksoccer2415
@ksoccer2415 5 ай бұрын
I honestly wonder if Premier proposed two options: A three train version and a two train. Because the last two bunny hops feel so last minute and almost “autocompleted” that I wonder if they had another proposal with that being a brake section. I wonder if Canadas Wonderland ultimately went with the two train just for budget reasons though. As this is a super large investment.
@matheuscastello6554
@matheuscastello6554 5 ай бұрын
small pre-brake bunny hops seem pretty common nowadays in modern coaster design language, especially intamin, see toutatis and kondaa. i bet it was just a little bonus the layout people wanted to sneak in, but who knows
@Noah-ey5zf
@Noah-ey5zf 5 ай бұрын
20th in the Park’s History (if we count SkyRider) technically 21st also counting Blaurenzin, but that’s now Thunder Run and I’m not sure if those are 2 separate credits based on experience
@JewishMusicToronto
@JewishMusicToronto 5 ай бұрын
2:23 It should offer a pretty cool view from the front, honestly. RE: the multi-faith space, I think it was completely removed/moved. I don't know if if will be there again, once AlpenFury opens.
@SniKaZzRCT39
@SniKaZzRCT39 5 ай бұрын
the layout looks interesting although i think it focuses too much on inversions. some more airtime bumps would have been good for variety
@dantc2403
@dantc2403 5 ай бұрын
Liked! Your operations and engineering expertise sets your analysis apart from the others.
@TR_145
@TR_145 5 ай бұрын
Wonderland is my home park. I think a lot of people were apprehensive because our only experience with Premier is Backlot Stunt Coaster. I'm excited for this ride but I think the decision to only include 2, 18 person trains is a fireable offence for whoever made that call. This is Wonderland- not Michigan's Adventure.
@amosnider
@amosnider 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree, not sure why they did not choose a 24-person train design for a top-tier attraction, that's more in line with Yukon Striker. A 18 vs 24 person train is a 30% increase in capacity while the additional operating expenses for a longer train would have been negligible. Not sure if a longer train design with an extra cart would require dramatic differences in track layout design/costs, with respect to the reasoning why they may have chosen a 18-seat train vs 24-seat train.
@miotch8225
@miotch8225 5 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with Backlot. It's not super intense but it's fun and a great intro ride for younger riders looking to get into coasters.
@TR_145
@TR_145 5 ай бұрын
@miotch8225 Nowhere did I say there was anything wrong with Backlot. But that's all we have to use as a comparison and if you are expecting an elite level coaster it'd be nice to have a frame of reference.... like we knew what to expect with Levi because of Behemoth...
@huspy8168
@huspy8168 5 ай бұрын
I have to disagree on the theorized block zones and capacity, I think there's one less block zone and less capacity than you've stated. Premier coasters have block zones set up so the train stops on a pair of slap brakes, which are always located on a perfectly flat portion of track with no pitch. The final brake run seems to be at an incline until it reaches the station, which would be able to host the slap brake as it's a perfectly flat piece of track with no pitch, which means the theorized transfer block may also be part of just the final brake block. In this case, multi move may be needed to get the train out of the brake block fast enough to allow the final brake block to clear before the next train passes the crest of the fire serpent roll. If they were to add an unload to the final portion, it may actually increase dwell time as you'd need to unload a train before you could dispatch the next train in order for it not to set up on launch 2, making an unload only pointless. As for capacity, the ride seems to be just a little longer than full throttle at magic mountain. If we look at premier's website, full throttle has a theoretical capacity of 650 - 700 riders per hour, which seems to be the target capacity premier coasters try to hit across all models. That's a theoretical of around 37.5 trains an hour, which is what I believe they're going to try to hit on this coaster as well. If this is a mistake is something to be seen, but I fully expect for this coaster to have an incredibly long line.
@philhutchings7354
@philhutchings7354 3 ай бұрын
The reference to storage track... there is a in the mountain tour on KZbin where the premiere engineer who toured folks around specifically mentioned the storage for the train would be in the mountain on a diverted track. The other train presumably would stay in the station. For storage or maintenance, the train will be in the mountain. Please review said videos.
@TheCoasterSpot
@TheCoasterSpot 5 ай бұрын
We do have an update on some things No Seat Belt Dropping Floor so no foot guards are needed Transfer Track will be in the mountain before launch 2 I agree that they should have done an unload though
@coastercat112
@coastercat112 5 ай бұрын
Great vid like always! Can't wait to ride. CW moved the multi faith in 2023 to the front of the park with lost and found
@jackenglebright1202
@jackenglebright1202 5 ай бұрын
Great addition to canadas wonderland. Only premier coaster I’ve been on is Mr feeeze at St. Louis but i love that thing, it rips. I hope with this new merger we keep getting new coasters announced and pumped out.
@CoastinDamian
@CoastinDamian 5 ай бұрын
This is actually a smart decision by cedar fair Cheap: around 6.8-7M dollars, Good launches, big scale
@talflick
@talflick 5 ай бұрын
YO MY HOME PARK!
@ale.alejandrof
@ale.alejandrof 5 ай бұрын
Velocicoaster is shaking in its boots
@williamWOOF1
@williamWOOF1 5 ай бұрын
Love your take on this coaster. I have concerns as well with only 2 trains and if one breaks down😡😡😡😡 Unfortunately this is not the colour scheme, I believe that will be announced on Aug 16th or 18th, this is a shame as this colour slaps!!! It’s my home park and can’t wait until 2025 opening
@BrooksHolt
@BrooksHolt 5 ай бұрын
8:54 What everyone came for
@samplautz5586
@samplautz5586 5 ай бұрын
For those of you that don’t know, a block section is the safety system that prevents roller coaster trains from crashing into one another
@richey0995
@richey0995 5 ай бұрын
Instead of that short launch and hill at the start, they shoulda done a pre show and a jojo roll into the mountain.
@2001mark
@2001mark 5 ай бұрын
Very much looking forward to this - balances out from the B&M gems for CW, & its location also balancing out crowds a bit. I will have to see for myself how this station functions in the midst of that location - it'll be super busy for a good 3-5yrs at least, & where does it spill over? Best of all - lineups for the B&M's should calm down a bit... CW as home park I'm spoiled.
@Sonic-gy7kq
@Sonic-gy7kq 5 ай бұрын
This will be best new coaster of 2025 until everything else is announced, but for now I bet this is winning.
@gyption
@gyption 5 ай бұрын
b-b-b-but… what about your thoughts on rapterra 🥺🥺🥺
@maverickheartlineroll
@maverickheartlineroll 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully that comes out soon too, as for me i think itll be a solid supporting coaster and offer some good floater & hangtime
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept 5 ай бұрын
That's a topic for another video
@Thrills_And_Chills_WQAQ
@Thrills_And_Chills_WQAQ 5 ай бұрын
HE BROUGHT UP THE SIGHTLINES. I am bugged kinda how it looks so I’m hopeful it looks much better when we start seeing actual pics. Regardless of sightlines or not, this ride will be epic. So many unique inversions.
@carysage
@carysage 5 ай бұрын
I hope so, it looks incredible. Every Premier ride I've been on is pretty uncomfortable... But I've only ridden older ones. As quick as this thing is blasting through the layout on the POV it could be brutal with some bad restraints.... But hope not, this looks top tier really...
@ron.robichaud
@ron.robichaud 5 ай бұрын
The multifaith space was demolished to make way for the new station. The old building was a station back when the park opened.
@noodle5283
@noodle5283 5 ай бұрын
What I want to know now is how a block zone starts and stops in the middle of an inversion
@XscreamThrills
@XscreamThrills 5 ай бұрын
With a ride time of 80 seconds from brake to brake, I highly doubt it will hit that max capacity of 60 dispatches an hour. At most, this will send around 800 riders an hour (40/45 dispatches hr). I agree this is the biggest missed opportunity of the ride as I hear the lines get pretty slammed at Canadas Wonderland. As always great content!
@RaindropsBleeding
@RaindropsBleeding 5 ай бұрын
My instant thought upon seeing the animation was "That's a B&M coaster" I've been watching your channel for so long I recognize the manufacturers by the rail design. "Produced by Premier Rides" ... I have brought dishonor to my family
@BOOSETO
@BOOSETO 5 ай бұрын
B&M doesn't make launch coasters to begin with,
@Spark1118
@Spark1118 5 ай бұрын
@@BOOSETO Idk if you are being sarcastic or not but yes they do... Thunderbird, Pipline, Hulk, and Rapterra are B&M.
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