I'm pretty sure if Guilliman and Abaddon fought Abaddon would be brutally beaten
@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject2 жыл бұрын
I am that’s the confusing part because if the demon can take on the emperor and fight to a draw it could take a primarch. So dose that mean with it he is now on the level of a primarch. But yea you right g man could take him because g man is the best!
@RovalisGTO2 жыл бұрын
For talking trash about somebody else's "shit hot take", this whole video is a shit hot take. No disrespect intended... but come on man. You literally admitted you didn't even watch the entirety of this ONE video you're reacting to, let alone any others that might give some context or insight into the channel you're criticizing in the first place. Not a good look. 1) It is told to us in Vengeful Spirit that the Emperor made a deal with the Chaos Gods. We don't know exactly what that deal entails, but we know he spoke to the Chaos Gods and made a deal. Majorkill is referring to other content he's produced discussing theories regarding the Emperor, the Primarchs, the possible extent of the deal made within the gate on Molech, etc. 2) Calling Horus - the guy Big E chose as Warmaster and the only one all other Primarchs would accept - NOT a master tactician is just foolish. Horus was absolutely a master tactician. It's not that he was peerless - he wasn't. All of the Primarchs are master tacticians except perhaps someone like Konrad. They all lean into what their strengths are and wage war in a capacity that suits them. It wouldn't be masterful tactics to use the Night Lords like the Deathguard, or the Deathguard like the Space Wolves. You could find quotes of probably every Primarch praising Horus' as Warmaster in one book or another. 3) Yeah... Angron is intelligent, and so is Mortarion. If we're comparing them to Cawl or the Emperor himself then no, of course not, but by the standards of humanity? Yeah... the Primarchs are all extremely intelligent. They aren't infallible, and it highlights the notion that smart people do stupid things sometimes. Honestly, Angron is defective so he's basically written out of this but I would still consider him highly intelligent without the influence of the Butchers Nails. Mortarion didn't just walk into the eye and go, "It's time!" He and his legion were broken by Nurgle and he succumbed to it. His hypocrisy is probably one of the most common criticisms the Loyalist Primarchs and Perturabo make of the Traitor Primarchs. 4) Horus convinced SOME of his brothers to join Chaos, he convinced some others to rebel against the emperor... but they all eventually side with Chaos on their own. Even Perturabo. And some were sent to convince others on his behalf. 5) Horus' pushing his way to Terra conducting the Siege with the undivided army of Neverborn with him was WAY bigger than anything Abaddon has done in any Black Crusade - probably all of them combined even. Yeah, Abaddon has to deal with a prepared Imperium with new safeguards against Chaos, but you know what he doesn't have to deal with? Loyalist Primarchs (until Guilliman), Traitor Primarchs that won't follow orders consistently, unknown effects of dealing with the then-newfound gifts of Chaos. Abaddon also doesn't have the traitor primarchs at his disposal the way Horus did. Abaddon can insist on them but he can't force them like Horus could. Magnus alone made possible much of the Siege of Terra and Magnus doesn't work with Abaddon the way he aided Horus. 6) Majorkill didn't say that Horus ONLY fell because of his jealousy of the High Lords and Malcador "usurping" his authority. He was only mentioning that in context given that he was talking about what was going on with Erebus and how the lies were effecting him. 7) Abaddon getting a totally different "deal" than Horus is literally what Majorkill just said. "Accepting boons and gifts of chaos" is the same here. He was granted the marks of each Chaos God, and Abaddon is absolutely not juiced up on the level of Warp power that Horus was. It's never spelled out for us but it's made abundantly clear through the narrative, even as far back as 30k and Siege of Terra, that Abaddon is disgusted with Horus' subservience to the Chaos Gods. This is what Majorkill is talking about. Abaddon will not allow himself to be manipulated, but he's not exactly the height of intelligence and cannot be relied upon to accurately deduce whether he IS or is NOT being controlled by Chaos. Which, again, is what Majorkill is saying... if Abaddon were being manipulated he most likely wouldn't be aware of it because then he wouldn't act at all. So it's in Chaos' best interest to let Abaddon think he's in control, even if he isn't. Again, this is theory but there is MUCH to go off of with this. 8) What are you talking about? Abaddon IS a lesser version of Horus. Plain and simple. He was groomed by Horus, Horus was his rolemodel and father, and Abaddon learned from his mistakes as well as his success. Horus was greater than Abaddon in absolutely every capacity. Obviously they aren't the same person but that's not what "cut-rate Horus" means. If they were identical then it wouldn't be a cheap knock off, would it? Abaddon is the lesser Warmaster of Chaos and I'm fairly certain if I posted just this point on Reddit there isn't anyone that would disagree with me. This was a sketchy video filled with your own bias. You're just looking for platforms to criticize Majorkill as opposed to being receptive to what you're watching and giving him the benefit of the doubt, considering you clearly aren't familiar with his content or style of making videos. Majorkill has PLENTY of sketchy opinions regarding Warhammer lore, fantasy or 30k or 40k, but the video you're reacting to isn't one of them. Further, if I'm being a little rude here... the way you talk is irrationally frustrating. For example, the word is "Disingenuous"... not "Disengenerous" or whatever you said. Take a step back brother, Majorkill is very forthcoming when he's discussing content that may or may not be canon, or even accurate. He just makes content for the community because his community is large and people enjoy it. If you want the most comprehensive Warhammer content then you should be watching Leutin9.
@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject2 жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks for the advice I did not know a few of the bits of lord like the deal with the chaos gods that’s why I was flabbergasted. However I did watch is full video multiple times well I worte the script and I mean nothing against major kill I just diss agree with him about the lore that’s all. What I said in the opening was my motivation for creating the video. Thanks for taking the time to look at my arguments point by point.
@JoeFlamenco2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject it’s pretty disrespectful to say his video was “a shit hot-take” and “everyone here is dumber for having heard it” and now you’re trying to backpedal that? Good luck trying to get some of his success by riding his coattails and name dropping him.
@The_Lurker2 жыл бұрын
Abaddon spent 10,000 years to accomplish his goals... That's a failure Horus would executed him for incompetence if he was still around
@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject2 жыл бұрын
But that’s the thing he has Accomplished just not his over all one and where was hours at the siege? That’s was Perturabo and Abaddon. Plus the hole shoot everybody in the back. Compared to Now days. Plus it’s not been 10,000 years for chaos. Time works differently in the warp
@The_Lurker2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject I'll give you that, I still would rather Lorgar or Perturabo came back and dueled Abaddon making him either their lieutenant or splitting chaos allegiances between two warlords, Because Chaos on Chaos action is something we need more of in my opinion
@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject2 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely. Idk the problem is power level and that’s why I bring it up in the video. We are told he is the big bad that we should fear, he is even on the cover for the main rule book vs g man. But as we have been showen only a primarch can kill a primarch soooooo how is he the big bad? That’s why I brought up the idea of him being a pseudo primarch from all his deals and gear.
@doubledeputyd42422 жыл бұрын
If "AcTuAlLY" was a person -
@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject2 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks for watching
@doubledeputyd42422 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject No one important cares.
@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject2 жыл бұрын
And? Why should I care I know everyone is going to misconstrue me as a clot chaser but that’s not why I started KZbin or why I made the video. So why should I care if anyone important watch’s it?
@doubledeputyd42422 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject Because you took the time to make another comment is why you care.
@doubledeputyd42422 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject You essentially just had a conversation with yourself without realizing it.
@tamasjacso79232 жыл бұрын
Timi?
@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@francisstrong51872 жыл бұрын
Bro delete this cringe
@TheRealTheAlphaOmegaProject2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@georgebailey76242 жыл бұрын
nice 1 subscriber,is it your mom or an alternative acount.
@kingj9664 Жыл бұрын
@@georgebailey7624 Is better than no subscriber's buddy