Why Did Razer Rip-Off The Stream Deck?

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Chapters:
00:00 - woops
01:09 - Your One-Stop Shop For All Your Stream Aesthetic Needs?? (ad)
02:11 - The Good (first impression)
03:21 - Can It Do What A Stream Deck Does?
08:28 - Weird Quirky Software
11:04 - Profiles Frustrate me
12:26 - Final Thoughts, Would I Buy It?
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[@Senpai]

Honestly, it's probably my favorite "Razer Rip-off" they've made. Now that the Stream Deck is back up to the same price, would you consider it?

[@jacobbailey2950]

No

[@Chief_Justice_Live]

Not compatible with the newest obs is likely that the new drivers aren't out yet. It was probably being shipped at the time obs was updating.

[@Tigernemesis]

NOPE. At this point, since I already have an original 15-key and an XL, the next one on my list is the plus 👏 OH and also...the word of the day is QUIRKY 🤣

[@Aative]

@@Chief_Justice_Live That's really odd to me. I'm running a Loupedeck Live S (15 "button" touchscreen with four additional buttons and two encoders) and it works perfectly with OBS 29.0.2. Is there some way that the Loupedeck software bundled with the Razer software installation was an older version? Whenever a yellow light comes on in the software (I only know for OBS) it means that OBS isn't running and the software can't hook into it.

[@DoubsGaming]

Half of hardware is the software. If it's not up to snuff then it's not worth it. Though the only good thing is that it's making competition (kinda). Competition is always great in this market but it's only great if it's actually competing. For the golden rule being "there is no bad product just a bad price", this should have been $20-&50 bucks cheaper given the fact the software isn't as good. Also, they are wasting their time and money on useless features which will be passed onto you, the buyer. So with that no, but if they made some changes that were worth something then yes.

[@EitanKovacs]

The major advantage for stream deck is the plugins. They have everything you can possibly want including work related like Microsoft Teams.

[@lyianx]

Eeeehh.. The Teams plug in honestly inst all that impressive. It really doesnt do that much functionally aside from mice mute, camera and call disconnect.

[@EmazingGuitar]

Someone’s going to make a plug-in to integrate more plugins 😂

[@BlackBeard_Gamez]

Just a heads up. Half of why i want a StreamDeck, i mean Controller X is because I would use it half the time for work functions. In the Logistics/Industrial industry, knowing which weak of the year you are in is actually a crucial stat. Usually something they make specific calendars for it.

[@gryftkin]

I hear you. I work with a company that uses a Julian calendar and something like which day of the year it is could be very handy... but none of our agents would really need a Controller SD which would make it a very expensive week of the year calendar :D :P Plus, I'm going to bet someone somewhere is going to make a plug in for that for the Stream Deck :P

[@vegasviking86]

Looking forward to the next firmware update that makes Synapse mandatory lol

[@tek_soup]

yeh, they need to make all their stuff work without synapse.

[@gazreyn]

TBH, Razer was the original stream deck. The Razer Switch blade and prototypes were out many years ago which was essentially a LCD/LED button panel. They just didn't capitalize on it.

[@jamescruz8678]

Textbook example of a product whose development team struggles to understand all the little details and nuances of why its competitor is so great.

[@RCRRemoteControlRichard]

Thanks for the video! Have you looked at or heard of the M-Game by M-audio? Seems like a GoXLR clone but much cheaper.

[@ProjectMysticApostolate]

Thank you for making StreamBeats and allowing everyone to use it for free. This video was cool. 🍻🍻🍻 I hope you had an amazing trip in Japan!

[@EmazingGuitar]

I like to use the stream deck for “interactive” gaming, for example say your playing a survival game that includes a lot of pick ups from the ground, I would add a key binding to stream deck for that pick up key binding so I’m “reaching out” to pick something when I push the button on the stream deck

[@cgsenior2007]

Look into adding a foot pedal as well 🍻

[@jer9124]

There are use cases for the week button and I would prefer it tbh. A calendar week button would make my life easier. A lot of business management stuff relies on what CW it is

[@wolfarix]

I bet Razer had most of the influence on the design. One of Loupedeck’s first products was the Loupedeck CT which is a monster of a shortcut device. I have one and despite not using all the buttons they where doing something different which is why I spent way too much money on it. Even their more recent products that’s more like a stream deck where trying something different like adding knobs and profile buttons to a more stream deck like design and you know what, stream deck responded to that threat and released a product with knobs. Razer definitely said I want a stream deck clone and licensed Loupedeck to do it without any design suggestions from the Loupedeck team. Razer just saw this as a quick cash grab.

[@ElodeonYT]

The Week Button or Display is pretty nice, lets say you want to do a Event on lets say Week X then you will always be reminded when this will be, remembering Dates for specific things is way harder than weeks, i learned this in sales....

[@juriaan5786]

As a engineer i think this is also nice. When we are planning tasks only big factories we talk about years and split it up in weeks

[@omarswanson876]

Cool video. I have a Razer Stream Deck(Loupedeck Live) that I use mainly for video editing, while I love it and it has been very helpful, I agree that the software is atrocious. There is so many unneccesary steps that have to be taken to customize it and I dread opening the software everytime. I'm hoping they update the software to be more user friendly because if Elgato makes a device that is similar to the loupedcek live i'm jumping ship asap.

[@Tigernemesis]

Your camera/room layout LOOKS AWESOME! 👀

[@michaelthompson9798]

Newly subbed to your channel and loving it 🤩🥰👍! I have the Legato Stream Deck Medium (15 button model) (not for streaming) for ‘working from home’ stuff and gaming and it’s a great tool for enhancing my pc experience etc 🥳💪. I scored it here in Australia 🇦🇺 late 2022 for roughly $89USD on sale and it’s been a godsend for me. The Razer model shown as mentioned is simply a ‘copy n paste’ model for more $$$ 🤦🤦‍♀🙈. I always felt that an integrated usb 3.0 hub (4-port) would have made this an endgame product for everyone to have in their pc setup.

[@ckwi2245]

I wonder if the Stored Device Actions is more of a razer products compatibility thing. To make it easier to change device stored profiles on your Razer mice and keyboards.

[@EwanLim]

if razer added a hub to it, it would sell like crazy tho and Razer doesn't want that. edit: i'm also pretty sure that there is a mandate for their software to be troublesome.

[@Larthebeloved]

I kinda liked the "weeks" feature 😅 good video, I stream full time and will be going with the stream deck after watching this ❤

[@NPCLiam]

I couldn’t totally place my finger on why, but this was such a good video. Just a nice sit down, talking about some tech. Love it.

[@Senpai]

It’s because it was shot at 2am. No more energy to put on a “KZbin face.”

[@therealtytechguru]

"It is possible to have too many options. I don't think anybody needs that." LMAO No doubt! I can't remember the last time I informed ANYONE as to what week of the year we were in.

[@SenorSEEDS_TTV]

You got any videos for starting up a discord??

[@muhammadghazali1707]

razer started with the deathstalker, loved that keyboard

[@mistersnowmantv]

@Senpai Gaming I know you have done reviews on the GoXLR as well as the Razer audio interface. Would you be able to do a video review on the M-Game audio interface made by M-Audio???!!! Seems to be really nice

[@brandinimmo7837]

Excellent vid once again Harris👍🏼

[@jagdteaguer]

I stopped using my streamdeck years ago when I found out about touch Portal, there's other web alternatives but still for hardware usage touch Portal beats out the stream deck and this knockoff.

[@tek_soup]

yep it does, and way more versatile.

[@ElVixe]

Touch portal is a fucking monster

[@DanVibesTV]

I have a Streamdeck but I mainly use Lioranboard/Sammi + App on my tablet

[@pyleoutnumbered8815]

My biggest complaint with the Stream Deck is the buttons, they have a long travel and they are also way louder than they should be. The issue would be all the functionality of the Stream Deck - I assume this won't have most of that to start...and if you consider companion - well this can't compete.

[@BenKaluza]

Your room setup, lighting and colour is next level, I love it.

[@Gumrip]

i love your videos

[@MichealColhoun]

Such a subtle hatchet job. 👍

[@MachineDaena]

Reviewed the Loupedeck Live S recently (including this software...) and it definitely has quirks for sure .... Overall the software felt nice though...

[@nols7404]

I have my speakers connected to my line out of the goxlr so I can set system sounds to go through. But when I set the system sounds to go through headphones in daVinci when I play the clip I can hear sounds when played through my speakers plus my voice. But when I send the sound to the headphones I only here the game sounds on halve of my video not my voice

[@BastianInukChristensen]

Regarding the week number, in some parts of the world we use that (much to my chagrin), so here it's about as useful as dates and clocks

[@SirBear]

the weeknumber thing would be grand for me, i have switching shifts at work, almost no calendar has the weeknumber so every few weeks i'm stuck googling what week it is, to have it on a hotkey on my "stream deck" would believe it or not be a selling point for me

[@huh0123]

Yo, you should review the Roland Bridge Cast goxlr thing.

[@fyrman9092]

I've been using streamdeck for years and your video eloquently conveys that I am going to continue with a streamdeck.

[@mrdot1126]

well, yes hotkeys, but the good part is you know which key is which, and in all the software you use.. if you get for example a dedicated keyboard, you are limited to that, or you need a really great memory.. with a stream deck/or this, you know what button what is by look..

[@q1337]

11:00 student's favorite button display hahaha

[@idle404]

Would you be reviewing the NZXT Capsule Mini mic?

[@dahmkhaos1201]

Is there a chance you could do a tech video on controlling an OBS + Stream Deck setup with a remote for doing live stream presentations. I do seminars that I want to stream and I am not at a desk, I am standing in front of an audience running through slides and videos. ???

[@marcorobbe9003]

I dont have a Razer But I have a Loopdeck and I think you are absolutly right. One topic you did not mention: There are really less Integrations for other Software. I tried IT and take it away from my desk. But to ge fair: I think the Streamdeck isn't as good as all youtubers are telling. In my opinion the wobaly partly loud Buttons are Bad quality. You ne er can be 100% sure, you have pressed it. Why is there still nö Button to navigate back to the last profile? Why cant I use the knobs of the Streamdeck + to navigate through pages or deine a list of action, rotate through the actions and then select one ( for example defining different light scenes and select one of them). Beide I think Elgato did not think until the end with the Design of the Streamdeck+ think Ing about Positions and size of the Buttons. I yust want to say, Elgato needs also to take several steps to make a really Great product

[@Haaris.Qureshi]

I feel the same way when GoPro entered the drone field when DJI was the lead.

[@marcus_cole_2]

I kind of do that anyhow AKA profiles that you have to use.,... I deliberately made a profile page on the stream deck aka home switcher button and I just pick the profile I want to use and everything for that comes up plus on each profile there's 10 pages so I can do whatever with 240 icons and unlimited* profiles.... With one profile being default profile which I just cut copy and paste that to any new profiles I make so that the page layout is always the same previous page next page page number home switcher on every single page sure I lose a couple buttons but you have unlimited buttons at minimum 240 for stream deck XL

[@HPSStreamTeam]

seriously he is so crisp. Keep this layout holy cow

[@SUBZROH3RO]

as a person who owns a Razer Blackwidow Chroma V2 i know exactly what your talking about when you say you don't like the Synapse Software, everytime i want to change my lights I feel reluctant to fire up the program just because it's so poorly designed.

[@100PercentZelda]

This kinda is annoying for newer people who sometimes assumes more expensive is better and wouldn't mind the extra $20

[@oienu]

I found this when I was looking for a stream deck, also another copy, "stream dock" XD looks like the original 15 buttons Stream Deck but half price.

[@duncanb1506]

I'd be curious if this works with Bitfocus Companion (which I've replaced Streamdeck software with)

[@Paladinleeds]

Bitfocus does support Loupedeck, which Loupedeck seems to be what is under the hood with this, so I would say it's looking positive.

[@CameronHarris1986]

I have two razor products, a wireless mouse that charges itself on the mouse pad and a headset that vibrates inline with the base frequency. Both great product ideas (when they work) but both are clunky. After 2 years, today I'm replacing the mouse and mouse pad with Logitech. The razor mouse doesnt show a charged state (not even sure it has a battery actually) and has turned itself off too many times its just unreliable and will go in a sort of on off boot loop. The headset is amazing but the batter in it is too small and runs out within an hour. The synapse software is just bad. Going off these experiences i would avoid most razer products unless its a wired mouse...

[@Odyseuss08]

which one has the besster keys in form of brightness, resolution and contrast?

[@dqxik]

I have both, and I'm gonna give you a full run through of both with my experience. For your question, the razer buttons are a lot better with adjustable brightness (brighter max brightness) and better feel which isnt much of a technical feeling but it's really good. Whenever I used to click a button the elgato slipped away but razer has a reusable adhesive (doesn't leave a mark) that is firm enough to keep it in place when you press a button. It feels more durable and a better experience with no stand, and also the software is more user friendly and in fact has MORE plugins for everyday use on the razer version. They added a discord plugin. I recommend the razer version

[@TheBre]

set the buttons on the streamdeck and leave it for another couple months??? 👀 Dude I needed a button for the stream deck software because I need to go in and add a whole new section of features every now and then, be it davinci, photoshop, notion or just general use type of stuff. I am so often in there I sometimes wonder if I actually got faster buying it

[@meandmedog]

that bed from future ahrris looks comfy as hell

[@ytst4dn20]

I kinda like the Week options but ya I think they could have skipped that one

[@zoofology]

If you could use this hardware with the stream deck software it might have been perfect. I only have a few gripes on my stream deck experience, but nothing worth switching. 1. I have to manually launch the software every time the PC restarts. 2. Sliding around easily on the desk. 3. Obviously the mushy buttons. Seems like this solves at least the hardware flaws.

[@Pobbatron]

oh thank god the sponsor is back i thought no more with the sponsor idk but i love hearing this sponsor

[@eatmynoobfood7461]

I brought the razer ripsaw capture card and the razer kiyo Pro camera and had nothing but issues with both (swapped to elgato and haven't had a single issue). I wouldn't even consider buying 1 of these over a stream deck. ✌️✌️

[@iKarlito]

The software is the cause why I dumped my two Loupedeck devices in a box and set up my Streamdeck. EDIT: The worst thing about the Loupedeck software is that it was way better when still in beta some time ago. I used to be a tester and all of a sudden they changed the layout to what you now get.

[@i_grind_4_mine_533]

Would you consider selling one of your loupedecks?

[@iKarlito]

@@i_grind_4_mine_533 Actually no, I will test them from time to time. And since I come from Germany the shipping etc. would be a waste :-)

[@TroyNahrwold]

Can this connect to companion?

[@kristofergeist87]

Razer: *makes something, anything. Headphones or something* This friggin guy: they ripped off elgato.

[@DoctorFu]

I'm seeing double! Also, loved all the times you said "quirk." 👍

[@themartinhawkins]

I've always wanted a button that very specifically rotates my icons 270 degrees with no way of changing from that position. Just me?

[@duckilythelovely3040]

For one reason and one real reason only. Because it will make them money. That's it. Anything else anyone else says means nothing. They just want to make as much money as possible and I don't blame them

[@skyheights3834]

When will you review Razer Kiyo Pro Ultra?

[@gryftkin]

I don't know... that week of the year function might be worth the extra $20... :D

[@hiuwo]

9:00 about the rotation sounds absolutely fine. you are being unreasonable. more control is better than less control (toggle is less control). I dont have a loupe deck i have stream deck but I am assuming there may be a composite action, or a toggle action where you set up a button to accomplish a toggle, but without that I still think it is fine.

[@ChrisCoffeeCrypto]

A few minutes into it and I didn’t really see how early I am in seeing this haha

[@Aspirintax]

Oh yeah. Even the Streamdeck + buttons ooze with goo.

[@MrHendrikje]

The problem I have is that the even the Elgato Streamdeck feels limiting to me in the worst possible way. Its around 100 bucks, and all I can do is press buttons... Then you have Touchportal which is like 12 bucks for the pro version, one time payment, and using an old phone I can have up to a 110 buttons per page and I think infinite pages. If I desire I can make Sliders instead of buttons and.. without hassle I can download pre-made pages off of the internet, icons included and use those straight out of the box, straight from their website or elsewhere like I did with a Star Citizen page that allows you to have easy access to spacecraft controls and other things without hassle. Kinda, sorta off topic here, possibly very rambly. It is ironic you talk about synapse being bad.. but then proceed to use a Logitech mouse... Synapse even with all the quirkiness, is still kilometers a head of the hot garbage that is Logitech G Hub. I dread using it every single time I my G29 steering wheel needs a little changing. It's the worst software I have used and the new Logitech Options is also worse than the older Logitech Options. SOmehow Logitech manages to make their software worse through iterations. Like.. the gesture button, I can't tell what shortcuts I assigend to specific gestures untill I click 2 more times to open the gesture botton's settings, then Click on the specific gesture, eventhough they have an image that displays what button is what on the page, razer has a similar style image and there it even shows the second key I bound to a key on the Tartarus Pro(Optical switch, I can set 2 actuation points for 2 independed keypresses) which makes it a lot more useful to me than anything logitech has made xD

[@geefbird]

Meanwhile I am still out here using my 12 year old iPad mini with my 9 dollar Touch Portal installed on it because it does everything a StreamDeck can do. In fact most of the things that are doable on a Stream Deck were done first inside of Touch Portal, and will continue to be. Between Touch Portal and Streamer Bot I have never seen the need to buy a Stream Deck.

[@uchiharyan1803]

they use the same button as Razer Death Stalker Ultimate back in 2012. very limited software, but cool to have haha. I hope I can re purpose the software no?

[@kingRumen]

Can't wait for the all new rode stuff to get reviewed

[@Scarlet_Dragon]

In Canada, the price of this vs the stream deck is the same 🤷🏻‍♀️ Might as well just get the stream deck at that point.

[@owlmostdead9492]

Mr Crabs’s interview why he opened up a 2nd crusty crab:

[@sapphire_lotus]

Honestly dude, I'd rather just invest in the Stream Deck+. For $50 extra, I'd get so much MORE usability.

[@tomaskonvicka4135]

The only good thing is probably non"gummy" buttons that the stream deck has. If Elgato fixes this thing, Razer doesn't have to try.

[@ichla3D]

Can't wait for the pink version to sell like cakes 🥶

[@WanderingDutch]

The fact that it doesn't keep upto date with the latest streaming software updates puts me off it entirely.

[@OMentertainment]

Evwr seen the Razer Deathstalker keyboard? Yeah. Very early OLED Keyboard. It SUCKED cause they wouldn't give anyone the SDK to it so there was no way to truely utilize it, which is why they slept on it until the Streamdeck

[@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX]

Razer has always been known for doing rebrands with OEM stuff, they did it with Avermedia capture cards years ago, now they do a Loupedeck one... I wouldn't even be surprised if their new mics were also rebrands from an OEM like fifine or the like lol. Wished they actually had a decent software for once, I have the old model of their capture card that it is compatible with PS2, yet I have never been able to make it work reliably, I just ended up getting one of those cheap PS2 hdmi output with a cheap capture card that seems to be the same as those 10$ ones, but has HDMI out, and even that worked better than the Razer one, like cmon Razer 😑

[@mastapetz]

I actually would want a plugin that cycles through date types I want. Week, Day and such. Sometimes people will be like "do you have time in week XY" I usually don't think in that term though. For the question would I buy THIS? No. Only things from razer I buy are mice (Deathadder) and keyboards, because I like those :x Rest is way too pricey for what it can do, compared to other producers.

[@EmoEmu]

Looks compact and small. Very nice.

[@itsTK_]

Isnt this just the razor stream controller with less buttons?

[@LogansMediaHub]

To me Razer is starting to seem like the Kick of streaming products atm…

[@i_grind_4_mine_533]

How so? Is Razor an alternate option that rewards its users better? I don’t completely understand the reference lol.

[@LogansMediaHub]

@@i_grind_4_mine_533 Well The product looks the same, they took someone else brand and rebadged it withh their own

[@PokeFangOfficial]

I just really hate the sound that buttons make on all these types of products. My mic picks it up and it's very lame to head that clunky button sound right before and effect or transition.

[@anderzng671]

You should test Fifine SC6 Wireless Sound Mixer 😃

[@corndog9482]

I clicked as I was thinking, "That's Razer's idea of _"ripping off"_ the Steam Deck?? What kind of handheld console looks like _that_ , and where the heck is the screen??"............. durrrr

[@CreatorOfWorlds]

Some competition between razer and elgato (corsair) is not a bad thing

[@pieman982]

razer made the stream deck before they did. it was intergraded on a keyboard called the razer deathstalker ultimate keyboard. i have it and love it.

[@zora_tech]

I never liked razer products because they always feel cheap and if I just look at it the wrong way it will break. I especially hate the Razer synapse software and how its pretty much required if you want to use any of your devices. This feels like its just a loupedeck product that Razer just asked to put their name on it just to feel relevant in the streaming space. In my opinion loupedeck products are more designed for power users hence the reason why they have so many options which I think its great and would not have them change/remove those features. I had a loupedeck live and really enjoyed it but the issue I had was that it felt very unresponsive. Everytime I would switch profile or try to do something it felt like their was a huge delay between me pressing a button and the action taking place. The other issue I had was that it would constantly crash and I would have to keep restarting the software on my PC. So I ended up switching to the Stream Deck Plus which I do wish it had more features like the loupedeck but it atleast is stable and I don't notice any delays in the action.

[@xiiibujinkan]

I had the synapse installation fight after getting a hand-me-down keyboard from my stepson....which caused me to refuse to use the keyboard and I finally bought me a good keyboard from my preferred brand...Cpl years later I purchased a headset while traveling, after forgetting mine at home, and bought the razor nari headset....which works awesome, but being a razor product wanted to install synapse....grrrr ya know razor still isn't listening to consumers about their software

[@CharlotteKavina]

I kept mishearing "parity" as "parody" and that made me very confused for the first half of the video...

[@Zodiase]

This UX feels like 1 engineer was given a 1 or 2 weeks deadline.

[@Jarek.]

Ok, thanks. I'm convinced.... Stream deck, especially that Razer cost +50% more

[@snaildamnefy8298]

seems good maybe I don't want to rotate 90 degrees again

[@LucasIndig0]

Love the new set!

[@kricket___]

This is now my favorite streaming product review hahaha

[@ottosyrjala]

That’s a nice chair chief!

[@Casperr]

Not being compatible with the latest (3 month old) version is more than a major red flag. That is literally unforgivable. No matter how good the rest of the product might be that alone has assured I will never buy this.

[@AnthonyGoodley]

It's confirmed that the devs programmed the software on 420. Who makes a button that works once and that's it?

[@hjackson.92]

I would pick up a Loupedeck before I even consider buying the Razer counterpart.

[@kastnerr]

My biggest complaint with my stream decks is the button feel.

[@pepsilove6306]

same, my grandson has an aversion to weird feeling stuff, and he compared the elgato buttons to a boiled hotdog XD

[@milk0119]

I personally have a love hate relationship with razor products. when it comes to headphones i love them, when it comes mice and keyboards i dread ever using one. I might be an outlier on this but that's just been my experience when it comes to razor.