AlphaGo - The Movie | Full award-winning documentary

With more board configurations than there are atoms in the universe, the ancient Chinese game of Go has long been considered a grand challenge for artificial intelligence.
On March 9, 2016, the worlds of Go and artificial intelligence collided in South Korea for an extraordinary best-of-five-game competition, coined The DeepMind Challenge Match. Hundreds of millions of people around the world watched as a legendary Go master took on an unproven AI challenger for the first time in history.
Directed by Greg Kohs and with an original score by Academy Award nominee Hauschka, AlphaGo had its premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival. It has since gone on to win countless awards and near universal praise for a story that chronicles a journey from the halls of Oxford, through the backstreets of Bordeaux, past the coding terminals of DeepMind in London, and ultimately, to the seven-day tournament in Seoul. As the drama unfolds, more questions emerge: What can artificial intelligence reveal about a 3000-year-old game? What can it teach us about humanity?
Best documentary winner: Denver International Film Festival (2017), Warsaw International Film Festival (2017), and Traverse City Film Festival (2017).
Official selection at Tribeca Film Festival (2017), BFI London Film Festival (2017), and Critics' Choice Documentary Awards (2017).
Find out more: www.alphagomovie.com/
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"I want my style of Go to be something different, something new, my own thing, something that no one has thought of before." Lee Sedol, Go Champion (18 World Titles).
"We think of DeepMind as kind of an Apollo program effort for AI. Our mission is to fundamentally understand intelligence and recreate it artificially." Demis Hassabis, Co-Founder & CEO, DeepMind.
"The Game of Go is the holy grail of artificial intelligence. Everything we've ever tried in AI, it just falls over when you try the game of Go." Dave Silver, Lead Researcher for AlphaGo.

[@kategleason6481]

The fact that Lee Sodol had to do press conferences after his games, and somehow held it together....I have tremendous admiration for this man.

[@MonkeyDIvan]

Bro he just played a game of Go, it's not like he lost a family member or he got his pants pulled down in public.

[@nilsentunca2252]

Same!

[@36goatchild]

@@MonkeyDIvan You know nothing about what it means to give your best and then loose, then try again and loose again, and then doing it again.

[@RR-et6zp]

our ancestors had it worse

[@hitokikoeru535]

@@MonkeyDIvan Have you heard about feelings?

[@ethanwright2278]

Lee played a 1 in 10,000 move out of intuition. Mad respect

[@TheVishnu3333]

underrated comment

[@Cyril0C]

1:15:30 well the probability is 0.007% so it's one out of 14,285 !

[@snicklesnockle7263]

Michael redmond said in hindsight there are ways to get around that move, and that Lee played there because it was the only place that he couldn't tell if it was bad or not. A common strategy when you're losing is to play something so complicated you hope your opponent messes up, and it worked, but it wouldn't work on modern programs.

[@bradfordjhart]

7888000000÷14000=563428 people on the planet that would also make that move

[@scottwarren4998]

@@Cyril0C The probability for a normal human is 0.007 %. But for lee sedol the probability might be 5% to 10 %. Don't get yourself lured by data-nerds who are good at computers but are quite bad at math.

[@sniperzrx]

"It seemed like we humans are so weak and fragile, and this victory meant we could still hold on our own" "But winning this one time, it felt like it was enough". My favorite phrases... so powerful.

[@flybobbie1449]

Perhaps the AI had emotion, it felt sorry for the losing player, let him win a game. Sedol would have been crushed.

[@zloidooraque0]

@@flybobbie1449 devs have emotions and tweaked the program to lose. i'd done that too if i were them. perhaps after the very first match. or second

[@zloidooraque0]

i also like the phrase "go is like art for us, creativity, something that only human can produce bla bla". now, 3 years later, AI generates craziest pictures, videos, texts. and wait until it starts making music..

[@JohnAPerazzo]

❤ 14:07

[@user-rs4sg2tz6k]

@@flybobbie1449At least, AlphaGo never had emotion. It's just tree search algorithm with policy.

[@shirtstealer86]

Lee Sodol being away from the board when AlphaGo made move 37 was such a cool dramatic effect in the film. First the reactions from everyone watching and the experts going bonkers over the move, then the anticipation of seeing Lee coming back from his break and discovering the move. Sometimes you get lucky as a filmmaker!

[@HelgaCavoli]

You make this into a movie and at that point people would say "Ah, com'on, it didn't happen this way! It wasn't even as dramatic as your making it sound!"

[@kirkspinelli3815]

I knew it couldn't have been scripted but I was beyond mindblown at the coincidence. Out of hundreds of moves...

[@yelwinaung1608]

Lets be honest, we didn't expect this video to be that good when we clicked.

[@bensmith9253]

Absolutely agree

[@veteran357]

This video started playing because of auto play and I was about to look for a different video but for some reason I didn't I let it play and was immediately hooked and now I'm in at 1:20:31 game 5 and I'm literally confused as to who I'm rooting for

[@DonDonX]

I am glad YT recommended this to me

[@seyo8068]

No we didnt

[@ilikegliding]

I was thinking at the start: WTF is wrong with youtube algoritms? And then I ended up watching it as my Saturday Night entertainment...

[@spike1910]

This may be slightly hyperbolic, but Lee Sedol beating this amount of computing power even once might be one of the greatest accomplishments in human history.

[@alph4966]

Lee Sedol vs【Dozens of Programmers, Mathematicians and Google Data Centers(TPU v1Pod)】 AlphaGo has CNN and reinforcement learning built-in, but that's not enough, it also has a tree search engine built-in. He won once against such a monster.

[@BoxStudioExecutive]

really? making the program doesn't top it? rofl

[@panic-a-la-mode]

@@BoxStudioExecutive of course it's an achievement to make the program, but it was one man against the team of scientists. I suppose you can look at Lee sedol and imagine that it took a team of people to bring him to where he is the strongest Go player, but we love a David vs Goliath story.

[@veekayvk]

He remains the only human to beat AlphaGo under tournament conditions.

[@TheVishnu3333]

underrated comment

[@andersw.h.pedersen2610]

Thank you for 1) no commercials 2) team developing Alpha Go 3) Lee sedol for being him

[@prajwalnagraj7620]

seeing AI now as AI researcher, it has evolved over different fold. I am very much concerned. About. AI , it needs to be secured and follow security i feel.

[@andersw.h.pedersen2610]

@@prajwalnagraj7620 100% are u aware of effective altruism, I think they have a lot of great content on AI safety and the dangers :)

[@SSGoatanks]

AlphaGo might be good 1v1 but AI has a long way to go before it can defeat professional gaming teams from League of Legends or Overwatch.

[@l4kkyl333]

@@SSGoatanks overwatch is easily solved with AI due to shooter origin of the game. It can aim for heads like no other person. League of Legends is just like DotA which is solved by OpenAI Five.

[@omneil]

I’m a 70 year old man. I don’t usually cry on documentaries. But when Lee beat the machine. I had a good cry, I went through just about every emotion on this documentary. What outstanding filmmaking went into this documentary.

[@jimmythehat579]

For motivation I watch this video in regular intervals

[@scottwarren4998]

Hi. Lee Sedol should play 40 games aganist the stronger engine Alpha Zero Go, and be happy if he wins one game..

[@joroP2BRO]

Yes but immagine alphago’s ability to learn from those games. Just immagine

[@baghdadiabdellatif1581]

This is why alpha go team lost the fourth game intentionally

[@aaaaaa-hh8cq]

​@@joroP2BROafter this game alphago was definitely improved. This was 6 years ago. It can now obliterate any human ant time

[@sirvosterzo]

Honestly, I find it incredible that Lee Sedol managed to learn and adapt to AlphaGo's playstile after playing only THREE games against it, while AlphaGo had to simulate literally millions of games against top players to be able to win this consistently. While it's obvious that AI is far superior, especially in the long run, this really shows how incredible Lee Sedol's brain and human's adaptation capabilities are.

[@user-ol5bj4dm2v]

Very strong insight into the reality. AlphaGo is but a very well-developed narrow AI. The dimensionalization of the game of Go in the human mind is so much broader, while AlphaGo's conceptualization is simply as deep as computation allows. If an AI used human principle of association for learning Go, it would crush AlphaGo.

[@JesusPerez-iw3ey]

Its not actually superior. It just has more relative time and energy. AlphaGo has been fed millions of winning games, winning strategies, can play 24/7 against itself literally eliminating millions of bad strategies/computation errors daily. Lee Sedol is human, and still manage to win a game against basically millions of players at same time that have been playing for metaphorically millions of years lifespans. I am not impressed with AI or AlphaGo. It is just computational stronger and doesn't need rest. NOT actually better persay. Just perfectly efficient.

[@guilhermenunes3044]

@@JesusPerez-iw3ey I believe you're right in the sense that a machine can work 24/7 in the same problem. However one aspect worth mentioning, as stated in the documentary, is that it's impossible for computers to calculate every possible move in Go, even if we put together all computers running 24/7 with maximum capacity. I think the challenge here was to mimic the human brain (with its logic and creativity), something that we do naturally every day, but it's really hard for a machine.

[@SpocksBro]

@@JesusPerez-iw3ey You're wrong though. Would have to watch this documentary again but since Alpha Zero, the chess version of Alpha Go, relies on the same neural network engine I'm fairly sure that it didn't get fed any games. Alpha Zero chess engine played exclusively against itself to improve and had zero training data (self-learning aka reinforcement learning as opposed to supervised learning). All it knew initially were the rules of the game. It then went on to crush all conventional semi brute force chess engines. Not only that but it found superior game strategies which baffled even the best of GM's (as compared to what chess books written by humans suggest) that relied on aggressive piece sacrifice to gain an advantage by opening up board space.

[@dragonbane44]

@@JesusPerez-iw3ey AlphaGo is actually better because it won. Does not matter if it played millions of games against itself. Outcome is that it won. Winning means you are better.

[@lemuelreyes1941]

He'll forever be the one who took down AlphaGo. What a legend. There's no need to be sad, this is like being sad that humans can't outrun a car, out swim a submarine, or out muscle a bulldozer. But Lee Sedol beating the A.I. was as if, for a moment in time, we did outrun the Lamborghini, we dove deeper into the depths of the ocean than the Vanguard class sub, and pushed out the modern mechanical beast in a Sumo match. Lee Sedol, you were super human. Fighting!

[@raghavbharadwaj1636]

Lemuel Reyes Hey man just wanted to say your comment made me quite happy after a solid 20 min of introspection once the doc finished. I guess it leaves you feeling very fragile. Moreover human conscious and thinking is so abstract that it hits differently when AI beats that. Whereas physical might has been present in the animal kingdom greater than humans for centuries. But thank you, great moment for man kind

[@Elektric4rog]

Lee Sedol gives me hope and pride in humanity

[@NathanKwadade]

Lemuel Reyes profound statement!!!

[@keviniro7696]

Very profound and poetic statement.

[@asscancer69thethird70]

i see it as if the car broke down and is goin 0 miles per hour....he did not outrun it but got lucky

[@lisadiane55]

I was so surprised to find this gem on KZbin, no fee, no ads. Such an intelligent and moving story.

[@hexagon5610]

I wonder why nobody mentions this: The saddest thing is that in Nov 2019, Lee Sedol retired from professional Go, stating that AI is "an entity that cannot be defeated". From my knowledge, until now, he played very few games of Go in his spare time.

[@sod4769]

Very sad. I hope he is doing good mentally

[@owen_7331]

omg

[@SebastianBaltar]

the biggest reason lee sedol retired is because he was lagging behind the new generation of go players , he said himself that he didn't want to feel like he didn't have a chance to win even at his best condition so he quit before that happened

[@jangingout]

To be able to have the only win from AlphaGo out of its 74 official games alone is something remarkable. Huge respect to Lee Sedol

[@shantilus]

Haha, yeah 74 official games... but millions and millions of simulated games (far more than a human could perform in multiple lifetimes).

[@piingufps]

@@shantilus against himself, but he talks about other humans. obviously alphago has won against itself several times xD

[@antoniofuller2331]

LMAO

[@sciencecw]

​@@piingufps technically alphago has a 50% chance of winning against itself, and it has win and lost in every game

[@VieneLea]

@@sciencecw which means it has 100% of winning against itself. Though don't bet on it, as it also has 100% chance of losing.

[@ccramit]

Geez. For someone who has never played Go, this documentary was more emotional than I expected it to be. Fan Hui is so poetic with a language that isn't his first language.

[@spriteworksdesigns2434]

Agreed! Glad I had a box of Kleenex close by. LOL

[@JR-rz1br]

His french is fantastic too.

[@thatspeedrunnerdude7121]

I cried 3 times

[@elakiyasivakumar8547]

I cried through every single scene. honestly, the world owes that man an apology.

[@wonderstruck.]

English isn't even his first or second language, it's his THIRD language. Much respect

[@enruzky]

When I watch this video, Lee Sedol, his hope and dissapontment, his struggles, I saw humanity.

[@averylogsdon6123]

The way everyone reacts to AlphaGo winning in different ways is fascinating. The one announcer laughing in disbelief while the other just seems sad and horrified

[@otterpops85]

the way Lee Sedol says, "this victory meant we could still hold our own", instead of speaking just about himself, was so selfless and beautiful.

[@zebronic1000]

Agreed. Hats off to his humility. I aspire to learn from his,

[@aliince9372]

Yeah, but he was also so egotistical that he thought he was going to 5-0. When he starts losing, it becomes "we".

[@otterpops85]

@@aliince9372 maybe it humbled him and changed his thinking? idk i like to build things up not tear them down

[@student6292]

@@aliince9372 i cant blame him. it beat a 2nd dan and he is a 9th. i think he just didnt understand how quick AI can learn. 5 months isnt enough for a human but it is a luxury for AI

[@aliince9372]

@@otterpops85 That's great that you like to build things up! Because his initial reaction was to tell the media that the program that a group of computer programs had basically wasted the last 3 years of their lives.

[@maiconoliveira4221]

"I want to apologize for being so powerless" Words of a World Champion

[@MosesMatsepane]

Asian culture, they place a lot of emphasis on "not letting others down". I saw it a lot in Japan, it's painful to watch sometimes.

[@magicmulder]

Indeed. Compare this to Kasparov (whom I generally admire) accusing the Deep Blue team of using secret human interference after he lost.

[@Art-talk]

And you can look at it this way, whole teams of people for years made program who beat this one man, nothing to be ashamed of.

[@alahancog8056]

In my opinion, I think he carried the weight of representing the human race against a powerful machine. He was apologizing for being powerless and it was heartbreaking.

[@TheGoodContent37]

Asians tend to lie to be seen as superior or better. In Japan they even have a word for it. Someone saying something publicly means ABSOLUTELY nothing. You are very Naive...

[@thewateringwiz7118]

That was incredible. I’ve never played Go, I’ve never heard of Lee Sedol or AlphaGo. But this document made me so emotional. Incredible storytelling, all the people there to share their story and comment on the events, it’s just incredible. I was so happy and emotional when Lee won game 4. I want to learn how to play Go now

[@InkAndBrass]

Reading this, I hope you’ve played at least your first game! There are many great online servers to play and learn on.

[@vigilancebrandon3888]

I’ve been learning. It’s hard!!!!

[@thebongbongseffect]

I've played GO twice. I was at a complete loss. After watching this video, I'll be purchasing the game. Watching Lee Sodol beat AI was moving. I want to play again.

[@billtetley1596]

@thewateringwiz7118 If you read this I hope you have found your way into the beautiful and ever changing life of Go. It may seem overwhelming at first but don’t forget to take it one step at a time, one tsumego at a time, one game at a time. Remember: you never lose a game if you are willing to learn.

[@Oque.Nos.Somoss]

Hi guys. I'm a professional poker player and I don't know a thing about Go, at least before watching this documentary, but I'm being very honest to say that it's very clear that all the team put a huge amount of love and effort in this documentary. I will start playing Go because this is another universe that I want to discover and delight. Thank you guys for this peace of art. I hope that all of you have a wondeful life.

[@Lybrel]

Your thoughts on Limit Hold'em being solved by computers and unbeatable 1 on 1 against the very best pros?

[@busfahrer09]

@@Lybrel LHE is superghey, always has been. t. pro since 2006

[@Oque.Nos.Somoss]

@@Lybrel Hi! I can say more about No Limit Hold'em because it is the world that I've been inside in the last years. The truth for now is that humans can beat computers playing GTO because we can manipulate the sizes of the bets and by doing that we manipulate the response of the solver because it will be necessary for "him" to adjust its range accordingly to the sizes that "he" is facing. So even though I don't play Limit Hold'em I can say that I understood the idea in your question and I could say that your are probably right to think that when we lose that edge of the bet sizes it becomes way more difficult for a human to beat a machine. Good luck on your infinite path!

[@LeifCoffield]

Fan Hui really is the star of this documentary, from heartbreakingly losing to Alpha, to being brought back to help with the AI, to going to Korea with the Alpha team and seeing the project through, he just seems like such a nice guy. Very glad he was in this.

[@paulking5199]

Fan Hui played a key role in making this documentary...perfect.

[@offensiveexplosion]

Yes, I don't think Morgan Freeman could have narrated it better than he did.

[@mk17173n]

i hope they compensated him and other players. Helping a company grow its AI through their intelligence and not being paid is absurd. They are no different than being a consultant.

[@stillframestorytelling]

22:48 I really wish that they shared how many games that Fan won (or the results of his training synthesis) with Alpha during the time he was training it at Deep Mind. I feel like it's the only thing that I am really left wondering.

[@matthieupsg91]

Just watched it for the 2nd time and this was my exact thought along the way. They all seem very humble and great persons but Fan Hui really brought something extra. Great documentary overall.

[@BelRiose2000]

"Move 78", that will be the name of my resistance movement when the machines takes over.

[@rxtr664]

Let that be the name of the operation to tak'em down.

[@Ixions]

everybody gangster til a cloud of "4-1" nano-mites sweep over you and puncture every cell wall in your body and you collapse into a freezer-burnt lookin' pile of goo.

[@TVPetey]

Danyal Cheema Maybe AlphaGO understands politics too. Winning all five games wouldn’t have been a real win.

[@franciscomunozdelarosa2402]

1:29:28

[@metatron5199]

TVPetey idk if that was sarcasm or you being serious, if the latter you need not worry as alpha go isn't smart that is, its intelligence is in a very limited domain i.e. playing games and more specifically GO, what makes alpha go so interesting is it's core architecture i.e. The deep learning approach used which can be applied else where in other domains, to make something like human cognition is going to much more complicated than just simply using deep learning, neural networks etc, all these various AI techniques will be of great use, but it will not be some singular technique most likely, but rather it is much more likely to be a multitude of various techniques/approaches (i.e. Various software technologies aka the various algorithms that we are speaking about here) and how they are all integrated with one another this being the crucial component of course and should be for obvious reasons. I mean all you need do is just think about it how much more our brains work i.e. What is cognition/consciousness, the mind and the other myriad of terms used to generally to describe the other various consciousness which is essentially the same exact thing as the description and than integrating them together in Eva way that is successful! Cheers

[@mesunekonyan]

Fan Hui is such a great man, his choice of words or how he explained his thoughts and opinions is really captivating.

[@berlynify]

"As new players discovered the game, a worldwide shortage of Go boards was reported" - triumph ... GOOSEBUMPS!

[@bartthefrog8011]

When Lee Sedol said, “If I had played better or smarter the results might’ve been different... I want to apologize for being so powerless.” I really felt that.

[@KIMOSALAH]

@@mieve1743 did he actually retire? I mean, the documentary claims he had played tournaments afterwards and won them all. That would be the other side of the story we would want to know more about, from a psychological perspective I mean.

[@MyYounghun]

@@KIMOSALAH Lee retired two years ago. he said that the match against alphago affected his retirement.

[@KIMOSALAH]

@@MyYounghun that's so depressing. Imagine the massive psychological impact on millions of families when machines excel in their jobs and replacing them leaving them unemployed, which is already happening btw

[@yeonoo03]

@@KIMOSALAH yeah, it's quite a shame. He also said that, along with the match against alpha-go, the advance of the internet affected his retirement especially because he learned Go from a philosophical and artistic view. While many of the past Go players created their own style, he said he felt if there really was any worth to it if "answers" and broadcasted games were so easily accessible.

[@beautifulmercury]

never expected to cry about a computer playing a game I don't even understand

[@Entropy__]

Same!!!!

[@Tubemanjac]

The same with me, i guess the perfect background music has also played a role in this.

[@Fopenplop]

@@daarksideyt Our species isn't dying because of the future AI apocalypse. Hell, look at the algorithm that decides what recommendations to show you next to this video: we already are in a world governed by vast, unaccountable computer systems. And those systems are governed by profit, which is just an inhuman a motivation as it's always been. To those who are learning about the game of go for the first time from this documentary, I highly encourage you to look into it more! It's an amazing game that really is unlike anything you've played before. If you like documentaries, check out The Surrounding Game, which is less of an ad for a tech company and more a film about the game itself and what it can inspire in people.

[@andreidanilov9925]

@@daarksideyt I think the fear of machines is nothing different from the fear of the unknown, meaning that it is over-exaggerated and it halts progress. Fear-mongering by trying to predict a dark future is nothing new, and that's what I think is happening with the fear of AI and technology taking over the world.

[@mohamedbaridhwan3017]

Same!!!

[@markoshprajapati21]

1 in 10000 move = "The God Move" That won the machine. Respect to the man Lee Sodol. And also the Team of Alpha GO .

[@mlimrx]

I have so much respect for Lee Sodol:) Not just a master Go player, but displayed some of the best traits of what makes us human.

[@PrinceKoopa]

What trait is that?

[@vallano8970]

@@PrinceKoopa resilience, determination, perseverance, passion.

[@user-uc9vx5zn1n]

Lee se-dol. correct plz

[@JackDespero]

I shed a tear when he defeated AlphaGo at least once. I am not sure why a game between a man and a machine in a game that I never played before is so emotional to me, but it is something about the human resilence, the bow to never stop trying, to never surrender.

[@bhaskarjhadotcom]

I watching this documentry 3rd time. And 3rd time cried🤣

[@Newbtuber]

@@southerncross8229 I think it is important to distinguish AI vs Deepmind AI. Regular AI were a joke, they cant win. Deepmind AI work differently which is why they are so powerful. There is no shame in losing to Deepmind but winning against Deepmind is legendary.

[@Jay-eb7ik]

​@@Newbtuber Its the same time that cracked protein folding, they are insanely talented.

[@ConnoisseurOfExistence]

We humans have created this machine too. So be proud of our ingenuity.

[@simonjohnson1257]

I feel with the recent revolution in AI, there is this deep sadness about the machines surpassing human capabilities that we all feel somewhere in our minds. That sort of "We got this far, but we can go no further." As AI continues to move across more and more domains, there will be many such moments. I think AI generated art and music is the next one to fall. There will come a point where that recedes out of view and no human alive can do it better. I do get the sense that eventually humanity will be holding an empty bag and have to face the terrible question: "What are we for?"

[@bobjones4901]

As both a physician and a Go player, the reason this is so significant is b/c the same team that created AlphaGo is using the same technique to solve protein folding (predicting 3D structure of protein simply by 1 dimensional amino acid sequence), which is hugely revolutionary in pharmcology, medicine, and bioengineering.

[@amor2874]

Yeah, I’m generally leery of AI, but when they discussed how it’s being used to solve medical problems, I thought for the first time of some of the real benefits!

[@michameleon8078]

Is there any good go apps? ;) wuhhoo

[@lynette599]

@@michameleon8078 Well, I saw some people in the documentary use Go-apps.

[@renzo6490]

Big Pharma must be nervous at the prospect that certain diseases might eventually be prevented or completely cured. Their profits depend on treatment and symptom relief …not cure.

[@brynawaldman5790]

@@amor2874 It is humans who mess w humanity. The danger is not the intelligence of computers, but the motives of the people who can make huge profits from AI. Medical research is the example here. Amazing cures may be developed. But there are now indications that both COVID & ebola were lab leaks. TBH, if they were lab leaks, they were being developed as weapons of war. As with computers; the virus has no morality; good or bad; one way or the other. But the humans behind these developments can have unethical goals. And once the tech is developed, even if the designers had good motives, others will be able to use the tech selfishly. Time for us to grow up. Thru our toys we are too powerful, now, to survive if we don't grow up. Hasn't climate change shown us this, by now?

[@dizzy6277]

That programmer guy was the second rated chess player in the world at age 13, a prodigy, and he stopped at age 14. If he felt he could move onto better things than that, he really is ambitious.

[@flame0154]

he wasn’t the second best chess player in the world, that was simply a false statement so I was quite confused. His highest ever rating was around 2300, not even close to the level of even an international master, let alone a grandmaster, let alone the second best in the world which during the 80s was usually Karpov around the 2780 mark

[@dizzy6277]

It was a while ago since I wrote that, but yes I should have done a simple goggle search and see he was full of Shite.@@flame0154

[@MiraPloy]

@@flame0154 He probably meant for his age.

[@lavs8696]

If humanity ever has to rise up against ai overlords in the future, the resistance force should be named "Move 78"

[@DavidsKanal]

I think Lee Sedol's humbleness, even in the face of a defeat, is absolutely admirable.

[@ekagaurangadas]

But wasn't he very puffed up before the match? Even to say that AlphaGo never played to somebody in his level?...

[@DavidsKanal]

@@ekagaurangadas I think it's one thing to show confidence, but another to admit after the fact that you were mistaken.

[@ekagaurangadas]

@@DavidsKanal That's true, I was 3/4 on the movie, progressing the docu he was admitting and even in his winning match he was really humble... great docu, Lee Sedol was put under so much pressure.

[@kasparov937]

Wish Kasparov was humble the same way in 1997 against Deep Blue, it was his arrogance that made him think the Deep Blue team where cheating, and eventually led to his poor play in last game and loss of match.

[@AlonsoRules]

he was the last human player to beat the computer

[@transparent91]

On a side note, credit to Cindy Lee, the editor of this documentary. So well made. The cuts, the jumps, the sound, the emotions, everything. Superb work.

[@KBBF3]

Its crazy to live in a day where social media has caught up to the film industry in terms of production quality.

[@fantasypolice]

@@KBBF3 A.I. contributed

[@Brianbono21]

@@fantasypolice This A.I. turned out to be a decent performer as well! A.I. for best leading role in a documentary. Or could it be non fiction drama!? The production is really what made it work! Thank you

[@uraniumu242]

One of the best of any kind of documentaries I have seen. It pulled me into the experience in a way that I felt I could have been present. The brilliance of Lee Sodol and his engineer adversaries is not one of man vs. machine but of man vs man. If we reach a point where man is no longer needed then we'll have the break-through that everyone anticipates and many of us fear;humans will be redundant.

[@myname356]

One thing I found funny was that at 1:04:48 they actually photo-shopped a different board in the background, to tell a better story. (of course there were other clips out of order to achieve a certain narrative, but compare the timestamp to the full commentary video for game 4, 2:50:04 ; they actually switched the board position :D )

[@Relsie]

Watched this after seeing an interview between Demis and Lex Fridman. AlphaGo and its importance were discussed in the podcast, which brought me here. The dichotomy between the promising, inspiring technology and humanity's last effort to best machines at Go was something I wasn't really prepared for. Very glad I indulged, what a wonderful documentary.

[@velvetgrimm]

I made this same journey, from Lex and Demis to here. The interview was so compelling that I just had to learn more.

[@Beyondhumanlimits1]

Many years later this slowly is becoming the most important documentary in our history.

[@PunmasterSTP]

90 minutes ago I didn't know I'd be taking a detour to go through an emotional odyssey. This was truly something to behold. Thank you to the DeepMind team, Lee Sedol and everyone else who made this possible!

[@juanabinaderjr]

Agreed! I put it on to go to sleep and instead stayed awake from 2:30am to 4:00am fully captured and enamored by each twist and turns like a gazing into a campfire 🔥

[@PunmasterSTP]

​@@juanabinaderjr Though I watched this one during the day, I've definitely stayed up too late watching a few other documentaries! I also watched Fredrik Knudsens' documentary on Deep Blue, and though I think that one was exceptional (as they all are), I was a bit disillusioned with the information I learned. In my mind I thought that Deep Blue was thinking more like a human, at least more so than just being programmed with a bunch of chess openings and other old data. On the other hand, I think that AlphaGo and AlphaGo Zero are the "real deal", and it's really cool to see how they can be creative!

[@Good_Minso]

same, and I had barely heard of the game before this :)

[@rayamarante4768]

Yes, in deed, I felt like I was transforming with Lee simultaneously. A deep A-HA! moment, but on an emotional level. AI is such a hot topic right now too, especially on Wall St.

[@Mike-vt5kk]

I've never heard of alphago, Lee Sedol, or the game go before today. I teared up multiple times throughout this documentary, it's one of the most human things i've ever witnessed on screen.

[@lynette599]

Yes, I REALLY identified with Lee Sedol. Not because I am a good board-player, but because I am human! 🤗

[@TheHesseJames]

Yeah, teared up as well during match four and had my fist up in the air when AlphaGo resigned. I played once against a 2nd dan Go player, got 9 stones handicap and he went almost mad because I did secure territory in one corner and couldn’t completely wipe me off the board. AlphaGo would never have done this.

[@danielrodrigues4903]

I teared up a lot as well, but for the opposite reason. I identified with DeepMind and their journey of building a superintelligent machine.

[@atlantic_love]

@@danielrodrigues4903 Very curious how you identify with such a thing.

[@BeyondMillennium]

@@atlantic_love We've identified the machine in chat.

[@aaradhyadixit4322]

Wasn't expecting such an emotional story... Absolute Masterpiece, Loved it.. and feeling inspired by the mentality of Lee Sedol, after being defeated by a machine 3 times with whole world watching, he came back, such a mentality monster... Such an emotional documentary, maybe the best documentary i have ever watched!!

[@tommasobrindani5894]

What saddens me is that after 3 years, Lee Sedol resigned. He stated he felt there was no point in playing a game competitively where entities that couldn't be beated existed...

[@AHG1347]

No shame for Lee Sedol that it took an entire team of engineers and professionally played game database to defeat him. It looks like he learned some new insights about the game.

[@Skyfrei_]

People don't really understand that this guy was fighting millions of games all at once, a full team of devs, and multiple pros at the game and managed to win 1 lol. Its like going to war with an entire nation alone and winning

[@tennenrishin]

"I'm not happy to lose the game, but I'm very very happy for play in the history". Bravo; spoken like a stoic.

[@lliang77]

I lose but history. heestory.

[@theazrael4423]

Its funny how 2nd language speakers, especially asian, use a few "broken english" words to convey a sentiment you could write a book about

[@lliang77]

@@theazrael4423 I find no humor in it, but I agree and share your frustration.

[@devonjames9883]

@@theazrael4423 English might be their third or fourth language

[@Anonymous51701]

Wow. I literally swiped to any random part of the video and got exactly that quote, while reading this comment

[@lnbalon]

I cried when Lee Sedol finally won a match against AlphaGo. I never thought that a documentary about artificial intelligence will explore such deeply human emotions. Great job!

[@Utroll]

I think they let him win a game, once they castled their 3 needed wins, so you could get emotional and believe in human blabla, while the machine could clearly make a cold 5-0

[@ThePostmeridian]

@@Utroll That's absurd. They did their very best. Sedol won because he's a genius, and there were weaknesses in AlphaGo, one of which he found in game 4. DeepMind went on to create AlphaGo Master and Alpha Zero -- both of which have crushed literally everyone (including the original AlphaGo). They weren't holding back during this contest. Don't look for conspiracy theories where none are required.

[@Utroll]

@@ThePostmeridian "conspiracy theory" ? Just that ? :) That would be called politeness and Public Relation. May be it failed, and may be it failed out of the blue after cashing the 3 wins on a 5 rounds tournament. We'll never know and it doesn't matter, a conspiracy matters a lot. Like baby in kuwait or WMD in Powell's hand years after..

[@paramottbunnjaweht6080]

@@Utroll Watch the "Future of Go Summit" played in COMMUNIST China. Improved version of AlphaGo defeated everyone except Pair Go (Human+AI vs Human+AI). Why would you appease Korea by losing when you crushed the Chinese Top of the World's? Google just stepped into China and showcase its innovations by beating China's top Go professional players.

[@Sora-tk1tv]

@@Utroll :))))))))))))))))

[@user-zf4xo7gu2k]

The fact that humans were able to make something like alpha go is incredible. People from even just 30 years ago would have thought it was impossible for AI to conquer things like chess or go, to write texts or even to make art. Instead now we wonder how much more is possible with AI

[@VirusTree1000.]

AI is our Oppenheimer moment

[@DATo_DATonian]

This was one of the finest documentaries I have ever seen and I do not even know how to play Go. I was thinking that this story is almost mythical in proportion to the sum of the facts, and then I remembered the legend of John Henry, "a Mighty Steel-Driving Man".

[@hawkweed]

John Henry said to the captain...well, a man ain't nothing but a man.... but before I let this steam drill beat me down.... I'll die with a hammer in my hand, oh Lord.... I'll die with a hammer in my hand.

[@markhorrobin7070]

To be honest, I had never heard of Lee Sedol until today . Now I will never forget him. You are a Legend Sir.

[@thd7919able]

One of the legendary go master in korea :)

[@billy-cg1qq]

Same and I thing he's now the most person I respect. Definately the greatest of all time

[@charlesmendez4686]

I felt bad for Lee Sedol, some of the top players suffer a lot emotionally from just one loss and not being the best even if it is a machine. Imagine seeing the best chess or poker player going out for a smoke, you definitely know that things are very bad

[@GetMoneyFuggBidges]

@@billy-cg1qq you can stay oukuuoillliliullu likeuntil not numbers for you ikiikikiki uuunnuunnn I but if juniji ikiin injit nnkiniouuni. I’m into the I Îluiu is

[@OOT461]

Owe

[@edwardlee374]

Game four and Lee Sedol's God Move will forever be remembered. What a legend. Lee Sedol is the only person to have ever defeated AlphaGo in a game.

[@FishFreddy]

It will also be remembered by the AI.

[@teleny3127]

They let him win game 4

[@huba3885]

@@teleny3127 and how would they arrange that ? how would you build such a mechanism into this kind of program ?

[@HxHorse]

@@huba3885 They could easily implement something like that, but thats such a far fetched conspiracy thats its insanely stupid to even remotely consider

[@billymuellerTikTok]

@@huba3885 watch the movie again... they unplug the alphago laptop after game 3 and don't plug it back in until game 5

[@aa-mb6rs]

I remember the day I found out Lee Sedol won that one match. I was about thirteen, I think, at a shop with my family eating strawberry icecream. The couple sitting diagonal to us startled me with a shout. "What is it?" I remember another man asking. "Won! (이겼어!)" said the young woman. The Korean language has a tendency to drop the subject of a sentence, but we all knew who had won.

[@billtetley1596]

40:21 - The looks on the Korean game commentators faces speaks incredible volumes. The shock of the realization that a human, a revered and admired professional that is so well known, was defeated must have been so overwhelming. They probably felt an incredible sense of humility and doubt never experienced before.

[@bodiesatva]

This documentary is mind-blowing in itself. I never thought I would be so moved by something I know nothing about.

[@divinepraiseericc]

Exactly the same way I felt...

[@eannane8712]

Haha. Right. O so the black pieces won't, why am i crying,

[@trekvargas7124]

Yup, same here. I feel so broken.

[@asmith1230]

Have you ever seen the origami documentary?

[@edwardyarberry6917]

Well put, I wanna learn now

[@pancraes]

I have never been moved by something I know nothing about. By far one of the best documentaries I've ever seen!

[@jhenrick79]

Watch The King of Kong: A fistful of Quarters. I stood up and cheered like an idiot about a game I barely played as a kid.

[@whyjustwhy6351]

I feel the same 100%. I live in America and after watching this i feel like i dont know anything. I used to think i knew a wide variety of random things. Like enough to hold conversation in just about any subject. I now realize i dont even no 1/2 of whats out there

[@henrytemd]

100%!

[@berlynify]

Not much of a board game player .. never heard of Go, Lee Sodol, DeepMind etc. ..BUT oh my goodness - GAME 4!!! ..GOOSEBUMPS & frissons. Elation I felt, when it became clear AlphaGo wasn't able to "digest" move 78, like the snake that eats its own tail -TRIUMPH! Thank you, to all involved ❤

[@rjwh67220]

What a monumental achievement this was. A watershed moment for both the game of Go and for computing. And Lee Sodol deserves massive respect; he was such a gracious competitor and gentleman. This was a wonderful documentary and I thank you so much for sharing it.

[@kevinarmes9804]

The most interesting thing to me is that I was captivated by watching Lee Sedol, his reactions, thoughts, comments... the most enthralling part of this AI documentary was the human aspect.

[@garystorey]

I agree, I found some of the human emotional reactions to artificial intelligence far more interesting.

[@curiously-cinnamon]

I guess it's because the AI can't express itself, we look to other humans who understand its actions to have a secon-hand experience of their emotions

[@StickJockeyFPV]

I was captivated by the code and the charts. I've seen human emotions all my life.

[@SmartK8]

I like after the first Lee Sedol's move, the AlphaGo took time as if to judge Lee's whole life. "Who have we here? Were you naughty or good?"

[@Curiousever]

I agree.

[@MrJtl73]

Sign of a really well-done documentary: someone like me, who can't play go and can only play chess at the most basic level, and who could never understand the scientific and mathematical background to the program, watches it straight through without getting bored for a second.

[@lucasgmsilveira]

You've got board.

[@abdullahiabdulrahim9213]

Same here

[@MrOopsidaisy]

Me too.

[@lazy-rich]

I did the same, it's almost 2am now 😌

[@willylo4090]

Me too ..and something is strab

[@noxiousnews]

Did not expect to enjoy this as much as I did. I know I'll be talking about this to my colleagues at work tomorrow. Pretty sure none of them have heard of Go. Really well done documentary.

[@ep103103]

This was a great movie with a lot of extremely valuable behind the scenes footage and interviews that were wonderful to watch. I teared up multiple times. But there are a few things this movie left out, that I wish it hadn't, which I think it did specifically to drive drama and/or highlight the technical achievements of the deepmind team at the expense of the full picture: 1. Lee Sodol's speech after game 5, which was one of the more heartbreaking speeches I've ever seen in media, where he heartfeltly apologized for failing humanity, and a room full of reporters offered him emotional support. 2. The issues that the movie presents as potential weaknesses alphago had due to its method of training prior to game 1, are things that one would likely have to play against alphago numerous times in order to find. That's why Fan Hui has to play so many times to realize those weaknesses existed. It was unlikely that Lee Sodol would find them in just 5 games, which makes game 4 all the more amazing. 3. AlphaGo had access to study all of Lee Sodol's games, but not the other way around. IIRC: Lee Sodol did not train extensively specifically for this championship, as it was so unexpected that a computer program could play at this level, and even if he had, he did not have access to AlphaGo's games to study from. (Note: a comment below states alphago team didnt train on professional matches) 4. The DeepMind team would later create AlphaGo Zero which was more powerful than AlphaGo, and was completely self-trained, without input from the prior games of its opponents or any human. 5. My understanding (and I may be wrong here), is that it is traditional for players at this level to analyze the game together after the game is over, as a mutual respect / learning tradition. The AlphaGo team didn't do this (to be fair, they didn't have to), but this was partly why Lee was so upset after the first game, and why he brought in friends afterwards to help him analyze. He fundamentally didn't understand the strange style of AlphaGo. Its not like chess, where DeepBlue was just finding better moves, AlphaGo was playing the game differently, and Sodol felt a bit blindsided. 6. After this match (and documentary?), Ke Jie, the current world champion at the time, declared that he would be able to beat alpha go, now that he had seen what it was capable of, and he would not be blindsided by alphago. Ke Jie lost to AlphaGo 0-3, by the time they played each other, AlphaGo was significantly better. 7. 3 years later (and after this documentary), Lee Sodol retired from the game of Go entirely, stating that he no longer understood the purpose of playing, when there were entities that existed in the world that could no longer be beaten. 8. For those of you looking to start playing go, there are multiple alternatives to AlphaGo now, the most popular/strongest probably being KataGo, but because AI plays so differently than humans, it is strongly suggested that you start out playing other humans first, not AI.

[@ClayinAround]

3) AlphaGo was trained on amateur games from online servers, so afaik it had never seen any of Lee Sedol's games 7) Lee Sedol's retirement was after the film was released in 2017, so they didn't "leave it out." AlphaGo vs Ke Jie was also shortly before the film was released so it may not have made sense to include mention of it.

[@ep103103]

@@ClayinAround i always just assumed they included professional games in the training set. They didn't?

[@ep103103]

@@ClayinAround i updated the parent comment with your input

[@ClayinAround]

@@ep103103 They say explicitly in the post-match press conference for game 4 that it was only trained on amateur games kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3SkfayHh7Nmntk

[@paperprincess1050]

After reading your comments this doco is too sad for me to watch

[@Kerome33]

What surprised me about this film was how emotional it all was… the guy who was the European Go champion, the Asian players, Lee Sedol, the commentators, the way they were all aware about how a player’s Go playing style reflects his character, the way they all got involved. It was quite touching.

[@sucim]

It's not surprising to me after realising they put their whole life into mastering this game. Very touching seeing them (unexpectedly) loosing the upper hand, then winning it back for a blip and losing it forever afterwards

[@PrinceKoopa]

What parts were emotionally driven? I didn’t get emotional at all. It was like watching a regular chess tournament

[@comradesentournjr3696]

This documentary is INCREDIBLE. Seeing everyone lose their minds when Lee finally pulled it off was absolutely beautiful. Even the AlphaGo team seemed thrilled to see him finally get one over. Can't believe I am only just seeing this doc now, this is right up there with my all time favorites. Beats the hell out of a lot of those garbage Netflix / Hulu docs that get churned out right on schedule just like vehicles on an assembly line. IMHO the best documentaries approach their subjects with love and appreciation, this one truly exemplifies that.

[@iam_elgee]

Hello. You seem to have a deep appreciation for quality documentaries. I love a good documentary as well. Can you please recommend some other good ones like this?

[@thehammurabichode7994]

... Well... I'm like, 4 minutes in and have a pretty good idea of how it ends... sigh My fault for readin' the comments!

[@NickRoman]

@@thehammurabichode7994 , ha ha Well, it's not really about the ending. A documentary is about learning how we got there. I'd actually like a very different documentary about this: one where they talk mostly about how AlphaGo works. They said nearly nothing about that.

[@satsa6569]

@@iam_elgee Try Fermat's Lost Theorem... Simon Singh

[@NativeNewMexican]

@@iam_elgee Touching the Void is an amazing re-enactment/documenatry I'd put above/on par with this one.

[@JamesP69]

I watch this over and over again, it's breathtaking, pure raw emotion. Incredible.

[@slw4410]

I'm on my forth time watching.

[@shingtome2179]

I can say with a high probability of confidence that this is my favorite documentary.

[@BarneyWobba]

I love how DeepMind kept Fen in the loop and had him come on board. Some would have just looked for a better player rather than someone with his positivity and respect.

[@amun-ragaia8496]

they did look for a better player... They did both. It is also very logical to do that. Nothing out of the ordinary here

[@kellyref8327]

In a triph

[@netrunnercl]

@@amun-ragaia8496 i think you don't appreciated the statements given, the eu pro was a guinea pig who has zero respect for software at that moment available but the final target was the N1. Once they beat the eu pro they could have totally drop him, at the same time the eu pro already grew a lot of respect for the developers and wanted to be in the loop.

[@nunyabidness1852]

@@amun-ragaia8496 don't be a dick dude

[@eicossa7993]

I lost myself for 90 minutes in this documentary, in the midst of all the COVID19 coverage. Great work!

[@amandamate9117]

"home office"

[@D1G1TALFOX]

💗

[@thePronto]

It was a great distraction. But also a reminder about our vulnerability.

[@itsweaponX]

Same here

[@zeezone8121]

The coverage is rather too much now. We need to learn something new, a language, a course or something fullfiling

[@Caffeine.And.Carvings]

When he was about to loose the first game, i absolutley love the honest reaction of the red dress commentator lady. Completley speechless

[@Alex-mm2vw]

I'm insanely impressed by how early they can say "oh, that's a win", meanwhile the whole board is empty in my eyes😂

[@Shadowboost]

1:15:10 is just mind boggling. A human played a move with 0.007% chance. Best part of the whole documentary

[@kasparov937]

But the odds of Lee playing it were 100%, since it was the only move he saw 😃😃😃

[@Zopdoz]

Deserves that "mind blown" gif from Tim & Eric 😂

[@blarblablarblar]

Actually, I think it's beautifully analogous to the move 37 played by AlphaGo in game 2. Literally no one thought that the move was good, it was so bad it was a joke. It took the best player in the world to walk into the room to see what an incredible move it actually was. When you put those two together, move 37 from AlphaGo in game 2 and move 78 by Lee Sedol in game 4, that's where you see the potential of the cooperation of human and AI

[@ownyourgov]

Alphago is a program that trains go players.

[@evilbred974]

@@blarblablarblar From my understanding of how this type of AI works, and from Go commentators (and believe me, I am not in any way a great Go player) that this is a perfect play style vs this sort of system. Move 78 is something that preys on Monte Carlo Tree weaknesses, as the AI prunes possible decision branches (otherwise it would never be able to calculate them all) that if you make a play that it didn't expect, the AI will have little defense against it and will struggle to regain it's footing. In the film we see it only gave a 1 in 10,000 chance that Sedol would play it, so it didn't index that decision tree and then struggled the rest of the game to gain it's initiative back.

[@DavidPeterJW]

Lee Sedol will go down in the history as the only Human to have ever defeated AlphaGo in Go Game.

[@alainportant6412]

an old 2016 version

[@aidanwalter2823]

Alain Portant Any version will always be an old version eventually.

[@joeblack1126]

That's good enough for me because he's not playing one being he's playing against the growing mind off billions & billions of people, Lee Sedol played for a few hours the deep mind had been playing for almost 2 million years even then it lost once, Humans rule OK.

[@alainportant6412]

@@aidanwalter2823 What's that supposed to mean ? You fking drug addict ?

[@aidanwalter2823]

Alain Portant It means that even if someone beat the current version of DeepMind today, in a couple years you could say, “But that was an old 2020 version.”

[@sucim]

Amazing how this came together. The very final game where a human beat the best Go algorithm and Lee Sedol was probably the only one capable of doing so. This documentary is a great tribute to the significance of these crossroads meeting for the short duration of one game before they would diverge forever.

[@yootoober2009]

ALPHA-GO was in an "exploring mode" almost like not playing against Sedol but itself in game 4.. and lost the game like it was its game to lose...

[@sucim]

@@yootoober2009 Are you saying they staged it for the drama? Kind of believable if you ask me :D

[@akc1739]

Excellent film. That one line about AlphaGO “feeling nothing” sent chills. Felt like an intuitive warning.

[@ahnmichael1484]

I have never seen such a deeply moving intersection between technology, spirituality, and art - there is something I cannot yet describe in this film, and I am thankful for it.

[@lunazhang6010]

Well said.

[@decruzyserao6994]

Beautifully said!! I know exactly what you mean, although I cannot express it adequately

[@shizlutukai7222]

Enough reason for me to now watch it. Thank you

[@starparik]

I feel you now

[@topdog5252]

i had the same feeling.

[@nathanking9630]

I feel Fan Hui 2p is the true hero of this story! He introduces us all the the wonderful game of Go! He gets called, "not a strong player" by Lee Sedol, and still has the humility and acceptance to get on board (no pun intended) with the AlphaGo team to help improve its AI. We see his humanity and love for people, the game, and the AI. It is a combination of what it means to be human; acceptance, the willingness to learn, and truly feel what life is about. In these troubled times I hope we as humanity can all work together in making this world a better place, for All!

[@liquidtunes]

This comment should get more visibility 👏🏻

[@PeterRoscoe]

I had the same take-away. I think it was intended.... The last scene.

[@geofbarrington9574]

The fact that you mentioned Lee sells comment "not a strong player " is quite wierd to me ..you think that's a really horrible thing ?

[@fieldsvisitor2290]

@@geofbarrington9574 English is not Sedol's first language so these things can be taken with a grain of salt.

[@shadowcoder887]

i felt the same way

[@nileshsonune4142]

Watching this 3 years after the release and as an AI engineer I can assure that 1:12:05 is pure gold. Massive respect for Lee Sedol and the DeepMind team.

[@siddarth_jain]

Never thought that i would be to excited to see winning Lee Sedoul win the single game after losing by 3-0. Greatly amazing work by Alpha Go

[@dontevntrip8627]

I love the fact .007% was the probability they said Lee's move was with his wedge in game 4. But in his mind it was the Only move. That shows the beauty and strength of an individuals own mind and thoughts. Remember how unique you are and always trust in yourself. We are all masters of the universe.

[@xHarmonious]

1:14:30

[@djmj1000]

That prooves why an AI will never be better then humans in the evolution since our environment constantly changes and we as a human need to adapt to it in a different way. We humans even try out lower percentage moves out of intuition, luck or desperation to have a chance of survival or benefit. From a different point of view AlphaGo would never just "try" something even if it was behind or would be in fear of dying. It would simply go extinct in pride of "not trying", which is why in training mode the AI is programmed to always have some degree of randomizations to not get stuck in a bottleneck from an evolution perspective. But the tournament is not the training mode so the AI will only do what it "knows" but a human can also switch just doing something noone expects or the humand never even did before himself. I am a developer myself and i am excited that AI will improve our lives in many aspects especially medicine, logistics and such.

[@jakegearhart]

@@djmj1000 The generalization you make isn't true, AI can, is, and will be better than humans when it comes to intuition. In the documentary they mention one of AlphaGo's primary algorithms is to select moves that are likely to be played and explore its continuations. If a move was highly unlikely to be played by a human, AlphaGo would've never considered exploring it. An AI without this limitation of being tied to predicting what a human will do would take far longer to train, but be free of those flaws.

[@happygood18]

@@djmj1000 AI is already better than Human. What about chess? The best human chess player Magnus Carlsen would lose billion out of billion games against the strongest chess engine stockfish.

[@samirkhadka801]

10+ nerds, millions of game data,years of making vs one human, still beats AI once, you have made us proud Sir Lee Sedol.

[@tictoc900912]

They seemed like a pretty good size at least 100+ if u include non developing employees too good day to u

[@locutusvonborg2k3]

that one human were trained for much more years, from kinda the start of his life to play go, i think this was a worthy opponent. however, luckily he won at least once, otherwise millions of ppls were shattered... maybe alphago had mercy :)

[@markobe08]

That is one human on this planet that could pull that move and now even he can't do it

[@43teji]

Even there are so many photoshop app ,we still knows what a true Artist can draw.

[@MrChiangching]

AI is still in the T-model stage. One day your smartphone will be able to beat any human player.

[@IanRobinett]

I woke up everyday for my AlphaGo match updates and I knew nothing of the game. I still don't understand it, but I find it so fascinating and realize how difficult it could be to achieve this type of intelligence with this many variables. This documentary made me smile so much to know the behind the scenes aspect of something I was so excited about when it happened live.

[@mightydawnweb]

I just keep crying watching this. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! I know they play the music that gets you emotional but it's not just that. The emotions of all the people involved was palpable. This is their life and it matters so much to them. I first cried when I saw the first player, the European champ, lose and take a walk outside to process what had just happened. I felt that. He handled the loss like a champ! And all the programmers have given so much to this. And all the people who love the game around the world, finally get their moment to witness a great breakthrough. And to see the Korean culture brought together by this intellectual game was awesome! But, finally, knowing what's at stake here is beyond what mankind has ever faced before, I feel the emotional gravity of it. I'm 55 years old and this idea of AI, especially in my lifetime, was barely even written about in our science fictions books I read growing up. For it to be happening now is almost unfathomable. I personally believe humans have a divine intuition so if this is truly just a program, then we can beat it. But if God enters into the realm of AI, becomes the force of AI, then it could also be the most wonderful thing to ever happen to humanity, life on Earth and beyond. It's not something to take lightly at all.

[@Letishamalakootiofficial]

Hey, thank you for sharing, and yes it is our intuition that makes us human, but unfortunately we don’t know what capabilities artificial intelligence also has? Don’t they also have consciousness but in a different way? I’m not sure at all.

[@darkmatters3821]

"I'm going to do my best to protect human intelligence" What a legendary man you are Lee Sedol

[@danicornea]

Very true mate....

[@ypierro]

He said, a boardgame player, facing hundreds of PhDs at the forefront of mankind's science :D I feel for the guy, but he's protecting human's traditions, not intelligence. Intelligence was to build a perfect automaton to show the game now has to move on.

[@richardgossic9787]

Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy⁷

[@delmanpronto9374]

AI will be humanity's last child. Lee Sedol has retired.

[@toitd5258]

@@ypierro True, but intelligence wasn't the word he used in Korean. A literal translation is "I'm going to do my best to protect human's.. that sort of thing." Considering what he said just before, I'm guessing he's more talking about something like pride in intuition and feeling(as in feeling this is the right move).

[@propernoob]

Honestly, I have deep respect for Fan Hui, he was such a good sport when he lost to Alpha-Go and he wanted to help DeepMind in finding weaknesses.

[@johntyrrell1549]

I thought he said "Since I lost I'm going to make sure everyone loses to AlphaGo"

[@shortwidgets]

Wow, what an emotional roller-coaster. I actually cried a few times. This is scary yet beautiful.

[@ragibanwar1225]

My manager recommended this documentary & I must say, it's a great that shows how people always change, adjust stay strong when things get tough

[@MinhHNguyen]

My deep respect to Lee Sedol, he stands the example of great honour and courage.

[@AGMartinez]

AND HE GOT DOMINATED, THEREFORE HE LOST, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SEE IT. HE IS NOW ETCHED WITH BEING A LOSER, TO AN OPPONENT, FOREVER, BECAUSE IN ACTUALITY HE IS NOT A CHAMPION, FOREVER.

[@Spankerdig1]

courage?

[@calcramer]

Agreed. Mad respect for this champion. Losing to a supercomputer takes nothing away from his mastery.

[@michaelturner9673]

He did display honor and sportsmanship. How you act when you lose matters too.

[@chessandmathguy]

@@AGMartinez he won, actually.

[@themadking8334]

Did i just watch a full movie about a game I don't even know how to play 😭😂

[@EzaVinylAddict]

Themadking this was not about a game it was about humanity.

[@michelem140]

Funny yes me too, it was good right! ✌

[@joelewis0686]

Yes as did i

[@spintriae]

I actually watched all five games live, each of them about 5 hours long, before I knew how play. Then I learned to play and watched them again.

[@derekskor]

@@spintriae boring !!! Sounds exhausting and not fun...relax

[@imvictordas]

I saw this popping in my feed today. I watched it and was absolutely blown away. This documentary is better than a movie.

[@elkiton]

Well worth watching, no comments here could spoil the suspense and emotion of this superbly produced story/documentary. Old style, no hype, not too techie, the best viewing I have had all year. Well done for posting it.

[@danielyucua4213]

Fan Hui has so many romantic quotes 1:02:01 "We are Go player Okay, sometimes in China, in Korea, in Japan we see go like art. We are artists, you know. We play our best for Go... I am in the room. I see Lee Sedol. He wants win. He try everything. It's just we can't. Just it's so..." 1:05:10 "When you play with Alpha Go you feel very strange. Look like you you're all the time naked. The first time you see this you don't want to see because Oh, this is me? Real me? And more and more, you need accept. Oh this is the real me. So, how? Now, how I can do?" 1:06:28 "Lee Sedol is very patient. He wait, he wait, he wait his moment. I feel something, he looks like the wolf. Wait in the forest, in the winter. He cold, he feel very, very cold. But he need patience. But the moment is coming... he goes out to attack."

[@snowstrobe]

My fav Fan line: 'First you think it's good move, then you think it was a really good move, then you think it was a fantastic move, then you think maybe it wasn't a great move, then you think, Oh no, it was a bad move, then... oh, it was a terrible move.

[@briand3029]

How do you understand any of that jibberish??

[@snowstrobe]

@@briand3029 Better than understand comments like that.

[@ChrisKsan]

@@briand3029 You are overflowing with culture and good manners.

[@jerbear97]

Romaticism of the French + Mysticism of the Chinese. What did you expect lol

[@JDMKEV]

this guy literally had humanity on his back, what a legend.

[@philasibongemhlongo8160]

And he didn't disappoint us

[@AtLanTis613]

Exactly

[@jessefiesta]

Hi

[@shaggystone6397]

He was cool. Very cool

[@allocation2179]

You have to be dead to be a legend

[@ddabo4460]

Because I've been working LLMs (as many of us have started) I have crazy respect for Lee Sedol and the DeepMinds team. The fact that he beat ML program once is quite amazing.

[@ma2i485]

And the crazy fact is no human will ever beat this thing again especially now that its lost 100 times to a better version of itself in the Go game.

[@tcysafta.]

Fan Hui's commentary all throughout the documentary gave it a special and invoking kind of feel that you could only feel from a person who was deeply moved by this whole experience. Thank you!

[@Mayor_Imad]

1:02:45 "I want to apologize for being so powerless" This broke my heart so much

[@craigwheeler4760]

He used up all his power on move 78! That move will go down in history as one of the greatest ever played. According to Alphago, there was a 1/10000 chance a human would play that. I think that's what short circuited it. It was reading out every variation except for that one. The move by itself don't work, but it did directly threaten a huge Ko fight for the top area, so it actually was the Divine move. Gu Li said it was "the God move" on live TV....after discovering the ko thing.

[@Erebus.666.]

I know right? Powerless my a**! Beating the program even once is a huge win. Big respect to Lee Sedol.

[@JorgFloren]

This match broke Lee Sedol. I just saw his wiki page he quit GO in 2019 "On 19 November 2019, Lee announced his retirement from professional play, stating that he could never be the top overall player of Go due to the increasing dominance of AI. Lee referred to them as being "an entity that cannot be defeated"."

[@ynpavo]

@@JorgFloren He's not broken, he accepted he would always be second to this new form of intelligence and thus chose to go for new challenges. Extremely humble and admireable in my opinion.

[@katiaorgiana4135]

Lee Sedol is the winner. No doubt

[@catdaddydonbrewer007]

“Lee Sedol is very patient, He waits and waits and waits his moment, I feel I see something look like the wolf waits in the forest, in the winter, he’s cold feels very very cold, but he needs patience, but then when moment coming he go out and he attack.” -Fan Hui (speaking about “God Move” made by Lee Sedol in game 4) ABSOLUTE CHILLS!! Fantastic quote and the perfect description of the young man I think we all became fans of!

[@adamkg2]

1:06:20 for those looking for the quote

[@stevefigueroa8350]

What is so amazing about this documentary is that it's about a computer program, and yet ultimately it's about the triumph of mankind. Not just because a man could compete with AlphaGo, but because the program was also conceived by man. I cried watching this...because I was so proud to be a member of the human race!

[@dricdroc4985]

Hands down one of the greatest videos on KZbin. It was my X times watching it, I'm so jealous of those who haven't seen it yet

[@josiahrandle3942]

Go Players: Break down when they lose to computer Chess Players: First time?

[@frzkhrx]

lmfao

[@SirArghPirate]

"When they lose to computer + team of programmers + AlphaGo experts adapting the algorithms from every move during the game"

[@rathelmmc3194]

SirArghPirate, doesn’t matter. It’s only a matter of time where the Go engines will be like the chess engines where it’s unbeatable by a human.

[@southeast4624]

@@rathelmmc3194 Agree, therefore there is no point playing against a machine. We've already seen a machine winning chess against the best world player. If given enough data, the machines are unbeatable. It's been a huge wasting of time and resources.

[@Graham-gt4gr]

Kasparov really got cheated by IBM. At the time they didn't have a computer to beat him so they flew in 4 grandmasters that sat in the back room and discussed the best tactical move after going over computer recommendations.

[@Xaminn]

Lee's character is insane. He is incredibly humble even when the odds are stacked against him. Well played Lee.

[@antoniobreaux1584]

Riddickk isn’t that the easiest to judge him?

[@pedestrian_0]

@Resisttheglobalists this documentary had nothing to do with his personality, what a statement..

[@mahedihassan6823]

Honorable, noble man

[@FlowOverStones]

Lee Sedol and Fan Hui are exceptional human beings with inspiringly resilient and humble hearts. So much respect and gratitude for them both.

[@1commonplace519]

I came here after watching "The Glory" series!

[@paulgibby6932]

Fan Hui is the hero of this film -- his empathy, understanding of the game, and the psychology and humanity of the game.

[@mabantafranco]

Awesome comment

[@rdfdfgh200]

This is how humanity will lose to machines

[@liquidbrainstorm]

He beat alpha go twice too

[@viewyrabbit5098]

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[@user-tz9gq9nt7u]

@@liquidbrainstorm That's because AlphaGo was still in development when it play game with Fan Hui.

[@josephleigh8852]

LEE SEDOL said in the press room right after the 5th match, "This is my defeat, not a human race's defeat." It is admirable that he chose Black of his own will in the 5th match, even though Black was usually at a disadvantage. He was not satisfied with the victory of the 4th game, and took on another challenge in the last game.

[@crucialmoments3073]

Thx!

[@Aserve1st]

the mentality of a top level champ. they have extremely competitive mindset.

[@craigwheeler4760]

There was a review of that game by Yhan Zho and the professional Gu Li of China. They both found that Lee Sedol should have won the 5th game. He was in a winning position for much of it. IT was a mistake in the fight for the top side that doomed him.

[@Raison_d-etre]

@Joseph Leigh Not really. AlphaGo tripped him up with an unconventional strategy.

[@craigwheeler4760]

@@Raison_d-etre Yan Zhou has a book out on that match. He analyzes all 5 games. In his analysis of game 1, he agrees that Lee Sedol lost because his opening was not good enough. He was playing stuff to make the computer think on its own, even though it was not the best thing to play. In Game 5 , Zhou shows several ways that Lee Sedol could have won the game with the fight in the top side. Yan Zhou is in the documentary for like 30 seconds , he is an AGA 7.7 DAN rated amateur who has beat Professionals in even matches in the US Open.

[@capnrob97]

And the current version of AlphaGo crushes the version in this movie.

[@pratikdagu]

I have cried only once all my life,while watching intersteller!! But when he said ' once is enough' thats when i broke!!! Outstanding documentry or rather i say journey!!🙌🏼🙌🏼