TROUBLESHOOT Your BENCH PRESS Problems OFF the CHEST!

[@ascendedvegeta]

"You got too much weight on the bar dummy" :)

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahah well, sometimes it happens

[@mr.d_88]

Ah the classic dog bench. If you're not doing this you're leaving tons of weight out there....somewhere.

[@vegangains3962]

Mister Dick in the ether

[@joshjohnston7388]

With the unicorns

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha

[@mamabear9389]

Brian, your breathing and bracing guidelines have made a significance difference in my training. Thank you.

[@kevinbroadwater9428]

I know my bench went wayyyy up

[@dileep_nair]

That was gold!

[@firmans12]

Trueee after learning breathe and brace my power like goes up in explosiveness

[@charlesracette8034]

Awesome stuff, your bracing video help me so much

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I am so glad that it was helpful, thanks for letting me know!

[@michellelogan3051]

Your bracing video changed my life, my lifts have progressed so much in a short time. You have amazing content and I’ve been telling everyone I talk lifting with about you. Thanks for all you do. Btw I get a kick out of your personality you are awesome.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is so cool Michelle! I am so glad it helped!

[@josephacker5716]

I love all these tips and tricks that add to the arsenal to help. Thank you so much. I love your channel.

[@citizenmazzz7933]

Another Year - ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO !!!!!

[@dlroto]

Another great vid man you never disappoint.

[@uhsemehicieronlas3]

Will definitely try these!!! Your recommendations on squats helped me soooooo much I was amazed to see my squat go up immediately! Many thanks for the great content and motivation you put out!

[@IronBullBenchers]

Great content!

[@anandnairkollam]

Every point is gold!

[@austinbpharmd]

Great video Brian. I really like your assistance and finisher videos. Very helpful.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is so cool, thank you Austin!

[@Barrieq]

Super helpful video man...please keep these coming!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Barrie!

[@DVRKSHVYVN]

I hit a 225lb for 3 PR and you post a video on bench! Thank you so much for making these videos man.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is so cool, thank you brother!

[@JacobPuthoff]

This is a great video! Tons of information, all in one spot.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks so much Jacob!

[@manimal667]

Love the band reverse bench/ row tip. I can't wait to try this.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I hope it helps!

[@xw2542]

I’ve watched just about all of your videos, and I continue to learn something new in every video, great video brother, keep it up!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is so cool, thank you!

[@Countryheart83]

Great info as always Brian, thank you mate!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Lucas!

[@ChristianCabahug]

Another informative video. Thanks Brian 👊🏻

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks for watching it Christian!

[@sarahberry6563]

Dude. This is exactly what I needed. Thanks!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is so cool, thank you Sarah, I am glad it helped!

[@Jason-bg7jc]

Great video. Planning to get to two plates over the next few months. This should help! Thanks!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Go get it Jason!

[@samivey8416]

Keep on bringing it brother! Wish I'd known this when I was younger. Arnold taught the wide bench. My shoulders hate me now lol!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

You and I both Sam, thanks!

[@jayc8442]

Brian you are so right!!! So many people look at me crazy when I say you should row at least close to your bench if not the same as your bench.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

100% brother!

[@prestonshirley9864]

Leg drive is so IMPORTANT! I was doing bench work the other day and was forgetting my leg drive queue. When I remembered it, the bar practically flew off my chest!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

It makes such a difference for me!

[@zvrk]

Another awesome video! Thanks so much Brian, you don't know it but you are like my coach i only watch you and Alan Thrall. What helped me a lot for my bench was the floor press, i was dumping my left arm way to fast so there was no symmetry. Floor press is such a good variation, also noticed that it gives me more tightness and control, since I am moving the bar slow and i do this with like 70%, hope this helps someone.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is so cool thank you Milos!

[@DrRRaza]

your advice for the Barbell Row is Golden. Thank you

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks so much Rab!

[@DrRRaza]

@@BrianAlsruheOfficial Your welcome and Thank you for responding. It means allot

[@petermiller1565]

Hey Brian, very good informative content

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Peter!

[@blairmitchell7419]

I'd love to see a video on the incline bench. Such as set up, cues, programming and its effect on ohp/bench.

[@mattjaworski6904]

Blsir Mitchell Incline with chains has had a big effect on my regular bench

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hmm Let me see what I can do

[@steveevans1205]

Most underrated person on KZbin! As much as I wanna see you hit 5 million subscribers, your videos are kinda my secret weapon! Haha I feel like I have a leg up on all the poor souls that haven't yet found this channel

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Man thank you so much for this! This means a lot Steve!

[@jordanmarino7831]

Been using all your free info to improve my lifting for years. I always do giant sets with antagonistic movements. You always say your row should be just as strong as your bench, but my rows have always been stronger than my bench. Been implementing different grip widths and pausing on my bench this training cycle. Makes me think my weak bench is all mental.

[@chriscampos7217]

Awesome vid,add the slingshot once a week and your bench will shoot up 20 to 25 lbs.in a month. Engaging your back is a big must too.

[@pjm_219]

Thank you, very informative!! I’m actually stuck in my bp at the 100-105 lb mark, so I’m going to give these tips a shot. Hope ur feeling well.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

That is so cool, thank you so much!

[@Gonzomedic1]

Too funny Brian! True as well! Thanks man!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Thomas!

[@1984lsHere]

Whoa..this video is amazing! Ty! Holy shit I think my life will change with this

[@1985Crystal]

Leg drive is the best weapon towards power just like a deadlift

[@geovannyjimenez7889]

Good video!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Jim!

[@garypriest7679]

I love the bands great idea

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Give it a try Gary!

[@scheelescorvid1597]

That shoulder surgery bit got me nervous man, I'll definitely check my bench.

[@randygentry1207]

Rowing the bar to a pause fixed all my problems at the bottom and started building a chest as a bonus

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

It made a huge difference for me as well.

[@UFCTroll]

Man you are spitting words faster than a M134 Minigun spitts bullets... what do you drink before start recording? Great informations, keep up the good work!

[@brandonhorsley9576]

The bench press tips have helped out with my shoulder issues, thanks! Have you ever seen a benefit to compression shirts for helping protect shoulder problems? Or do you have any other tips for protecting against shoulder injuries?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I have many tips for shoulder stuff on my channel brother but I have personally never used a compression shirt so I am not completely sure man,. Sorry, wish I could help more!

[@arohirsch2345]

Your dogs are hilarious!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Andrew!

[@Frost53021]

Hey Brian nice video keep it up However I was surprised when you mentioned the bar path, in his book of methods Louie Simmons says that the bar path should remain strictly vertical and that the bar should not come toward the face during the concentric portion of the lift, as it is during this motion that most of the pec/shoulder injuries occurs; do you think his advice applies only to equipped benching or is it just a different point of view on the movement? Or am I a dumbass that thinks too much? Thank you :p

[@stefantanase5102]

Power!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Stefan!

[@mcbrainstem]

I have been struggling with this for a while. I just thought it was a weird thing I couldn’t manage

[@Seb4asti4n]

Could you perhaps make a video of when to press with an axle and not? Any benefits? Thank you Brian :) Edit: for ohp and bench press.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Yep, I am actually going to make that one soon!

[@Seb4asti4n]

@@BrianAlsruheOfficial Awesome! Looking forward to it! :)

[@MrJosh6889]

My bench was stalled for a long time. What brought me out of it was heavy floor presses. Put the rails at the height of your elbow, and learn to explode from the bottom. I really think my problem was just not knowing how to generate power from the bottom. I'm definitely going to steal the banded DB press. Seems like that might kind of achieve the same thing. Of course, after doing that for a while, my chest is starting to lag behind my triceps a bit :D But that's not the worst problem in the world to have.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Yea man, stronger triceps will always make your pressing movement go up.

[@tommywho924]

Flare the elbows, impinge the shoulder!!! It's only been 8 years and its still the limiting factor on my bench press. Listen to the man people Edit: To clarify, I meant starting elbows flared (out at 90) and lowering the bar straight down. Not flaring after tucking and all that jazz he gets into later.

[@ewouthagdorn7872]

Possibly the worst advice in the thread. Dont do this if u dont want fucked up shoulder joint (AC) and fucked rotator cuffs. Learn bench with tuck, arch, brace and retracting scapulae, lmao not like this

[@EmilBBechGrip]

@@ewouthagdorn7872 Read his comment again

[@ewouthagdorn7872]

@@EmilBBechGrip can be read both ways, i suppose he means, flare the elbows and you will impinge your shoulder. Mehz he coulda been more clear

[@EmilBBechGrip]

@@ewouthagdorn7872 I know, I had to read it a couple of times to understand it aswell.

[@dustinpoynor9151]

I need a gym like that

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Save and build it brother, I was in your place saying the same thing.

[@mattjaworski6904]

I just bought a pair of elitefts short bands (orange ones) for bench a few weeks ago and can’t say they have helped me hit extra prs. I am progressing at the same rate. Usually hit 3 warm up sets and 1 working set with the bands on. Also do 1 volume set with them on at the end of my working sets. I honestly feel doing incline w/ chains has helped me more. Guess i am just a little disappointed and maybe need to get the heavier set

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I agree with Ryan man, Bands absolutely work but you need to use them correctly brother. I lay out free programs and have videos explaining how. Definitely check those out before you give up on them.

[@drip369]

How do you judge that bench/row ratio, Brian? My 6rm (RPE8 ?) bent over row, is my 1rp max benching (although I haven't benched in a decade and have been practicing technique for two months now)

[@nicolairoed6519]

Done shared your channel to a dear friend so he can fix his shit! xD ♥️

[@jamesward2327]

Can you do a troubleshoot your strict press out the bottom video?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Yea man if there is enough interest!

[@Daddysports79]

Great vid Brian, any thoughts on the Slingshot to help with form? Especially after a shoulder injury. Been thinking about getting one but not sure if it'll do more harm than good

[@joshjohnston7388]

I've seen Brian use one. Interested in hearing his take. I've never used one, but I understand it's a lot like a belt in that it doesn't add pounds to the bar or "save you from injury," but it does make you focus on form, which can't hurt. Whether or not you need to spend the money on that kind of tool is up to you.

[@Daddysports79]

@@joshjohnston7388 That's what I was reading about, it kind of "forces" you into correct form. But is there any downside from a development standpoint? I'm an "older" lifter and my right shoulder has a lot pain but I borrowed one of these and it felt great! Should I pick one up or am I better off dropping the weight and slowly rehabbing the shoulder while focusing strictly on form without any assistance?

[@joshjohnston7388]

@@Daddysports79 I am not a licensed clinician, but I did quite a bit of school for it. The math is currently holding me back, but I'm working on that. Ok, disclaimer given. I can't see any downsides other than becoming emotionally reliant on it. That is, if you decide that you need it to bench safely, that may become a self-filfilling prophecy. But I see many people use bands around their knees to remind themselves to "knee out" on squat-like movements. I have this problem with my left leg (hip joint alings differently) and have simply been vigilant, no equipment. So far, I have not "blown out" me knee. But that's anecdote, not data, and hard data on things this specific is basically non existant anyway. From a clinical therapy standpoint, the rec would be "if the tool helps you feel better while continuing to train, use it." Just don't become emotionally reliant on it. Use care, pay attention, and if something is painful and limiting your training, do not do that thing. I mean, at the end of the day, if you aren't competing in a meet, you could use the hammer press machine and get strong/build muscle/rehab the joint if that's what you're limited to. So my "some guy you don't know from youtube comments" rec would be that if the cost of the tool isn't a burden, try it and see if it helps you stay more comfortable. Stay unequipped on lighter sets just to stay familiar with it. If it helps you, use it when it matters. As I say, I've never used one. Brian has, but I don't know his opinion and would take his coaching over mine.

[@jayc8442]

Daddysports79 l spent 20 years benching the wrong way and the slingshot helped me so much with training me to keep my elbows tucked in. Benching that way will help your shoulders a lot!! Slingshot will definitely help you do more weight but you can use to help teach technique.

[@bryanklabik1500]

you should definitely get one. It will IMMEDIATELY add weight to your lift - my one rep max is 20 lbs. heavier than without , it will force into better form. I use it more often than not just to reinforce the proper form. It will give the “pop” at the bottom that enables you to go heavier or increase reps.

[@seekersamara3016]

My dog gets up on my stomach when I'm benching too 😂

[@unescorted_settler]

Sounds like I really need to work on my barbell row

[@iminmissouri8589]

Damn tearing apart my form

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

It is how we get better

[@bryanklabik1500]

Does the flaring elbows thing and the curved path also apply to dumbbells? At 14:34 it looks like you are pressing the dumbbells the way you said not to do it with the elbows flared throughout the movement. I’m not trying to be a jerk just want to know if the movements between barbell and dumbbell should be identical.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Because of when my shoulder rehab is currently I have to stabilize out there, but even when I am healthy, I would say my dumbbell Bench is much more flirted than my barbell. It is tough to stay as tucked without a stable thing like a bar to brace on.

[@adamhawkins3513]

yeah i've lost my leg drive. I'm a powerlifter and my floor press is close to my bench. heck my bench has been stuck at right around 300 for several years...

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Gotta find it man, make all of the difference in the world!

[@dylansmall313]

Hey Brian any tips for growing a KZbin channel? I’ve been subbed to you a while on my older account but I just started this one up to upload my workouts, so I was wondering if you did anything to help your channel when you started off. If you have any advice I’d appreciate it, thanks man!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Absolutely Dylan, I would actually love to do more videos on this but it just doesn't seem to have any interest fro my audience. But I did a little series about it here on may channel if you search. It is not the best advice but it is how I have gotten to where I am today. I hope that helps man!

[@dylansmall313]

Brian Alsruhe I’ll check it out, thanks man!

[@Cuppens1995]

*fails his bench set* *Brian posts a bench troubleshoot* It's like you know

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha...I do.

[@CAL1984]

0:11 "Vamos?"✌😂

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahaha

[@makepar9494]

literally predicted corona before it even happened in the first thirty seconds

[@otka4al4o]

Upper back is never strong enough

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Totally agree

[@chriscoates8691]

What if I’m rowing a decent more than my bench?

[@prepper83ify]

My problem is I've moved up to XL shirts and none of my Neversate shirts fit anymore.

[@MrYippykayay]

Any difference if you do close grip bench only...after having shoulder probs I only do close grip now...it feels better anyway

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I love it, did an entire video about it

[@jmac6973]

Brian, how do you balance/program for jujitsu with your strongman training?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

They are just so different man, and I done;t use any strength in jiu-jitsu, so I actually look at it as active recovery. I don't think it really need to be balanced much any all as long as you are staying relaxed when rolling.

[@jmac6973]

Brian Alsruhe ok cool, thanks. I’m fairly new to it so I find myself exerting a lot of energy and the day after is rough on my training. I’ll try to relax!

[@steynvisser6406]

Brian, y is my ohp so shit compared to my bench? 😭

[@andrewmcmahon6432]

I must admit I am often lax with my breathing and bracing during the bench press.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Me too, that's why I mentioned it.

[@mattperry4869]

Haha and here I am just wishing my bench was as strong as my row!

[@Gonzomedic1]

Robin Williams was hilarious!

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

I miss that dude a lot

[@Gonzomedic1]

@@BrianAlsruheOfficial me too one in a million!

[@aleno4328]

👍

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thank you so much!

[@firmans12]

Hi sir Brian been watching ur videos. You said that u should be able to row at least same weight as bench press. What if i cant row as heavy as bench press ? Does that means i have to row more?

[@joshjohnston7388]

If you can't you can't. Just keep working the percentages as you would any other priority lift. Weak points tend to catch up with strong ones over time when worked similarly. That being said "in the ballpark" is fine. You're probably never gonna strict row your max bench without major body english because the position and support is so different. That's not to say having a strong posterior chain isn't important. It's very important! But rating and comparing that, apples to apples, is darn near impossible. So yeah, prioritize your row, but don't be nit-picky crazy obsessive about it. I row in the same plane that I press twice a week (neversate template format) and my back is spreading very nicely. I can't row my bench, but it's much closer than it used to be, and I perform daily lift and carry tasks much more comfortably for it. Listen to the man's words. It's not "you must do exactly this!" But more, "make getting near this a priority." Dude uses his words well, which I know we aren't really used to in a youtube guy.

[@firmans12]

@@joshjohnston7388 yeahh thanks bro for the advice but im curious with one of my friend hes a bodybuilder and his bench press is lower than his row. How is that possible??

[@joshjohnston7388]

@@firmans12 oh hell who knows. Maybe he's crazy strong in his posterior. Maybe he cheats his rows like a mofo. Or maybe (and this is my guess but I could be wrong) that since he's a bodybuilder, his technique and training has him benching pretty wide and stopping just short of full lockout for lots of reps. This isn't uncommon with one-way bodybuilders because they are trying to maximize pec involvement, time under tension for maximum pump, not really employing leg drive to make the chest and arms do all the work, and all that bodybuilder-specific stuff. Pure bodybuilders are almost (almost) always weaker on 1rms than a powerlifter, because that's not the focus of their sport. I mean Arnold's numbers in his prime are... not great compared to a middling powerlifter. That one dude (gawd what's his name? Light weight baby guy) squatted 800, which is ok but not amazing for a pro lifter, and he used a suit. Both huge winners in bodybuilding. Both looked amazing and were plenty strong compared to general population, but wouldn't make the podium in their weight class in powerlifting. No shade, that's just not what they trained for. Your guy probably has a super-developed back and a chest that's big and looks good, but presses with sub-optimal (for a 1rm test) technique.

[@waltherwagner9711]

1. He said row as much as you bench. 2. You dont row as much as you bench. Conclusion: Your back is too weak (mine too btw). So yes, you and me should row our ass off and do more.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Just keep working at it man, as long as you are moving toward it, things will start improving

[@rickniu4153]

What about failing at mid-way? LIke when your elbows are parallel with your chest

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

If there is enough demand, I will gladly make a video on it man!

[@likeforsure]

How is the vomiting going along Brian?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Same old stuff brother, but thanks for asking!

[@SStesta90]

@@BrianAlsruheOfficial OH man you still got that shit, man. I am very impressed you are able to keep training on such an high level with that stuff going on! I am no doctor, and you prob sick of internet advice, but have you tried fasting? it can help all kinda of internal problems and even rest your gut bacteria. could be worth a shot!

[@EviLNox8]

Do you think using lower weight without leg drive would build your strength or muscles faster than using more weight with leg drive? I'm curious if there is a strength or muscle growth benefit to using leg drive with a heavier weight than without. So does that extra weight with leg drive make ones upper body stronger just because its more weight even though the lift was made a bit easier by using leg drive?

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

More weight Wirth leg drive brother. I have covered it multiple times in depth in some of my OHP tutorials. Check them out and I explain exactly why brother, I hope that helps!

[@EviLNox8]

@@BrianAlsruheOfficial will do. Thanks for the reply.

[@rapidjoespeed]

👍😀💪

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks Joe!

[@72buffaloman]

Hey Brian ,I thought they dismissed the leg drive thing . Stating that the legs don't transfer their strength into the upper body on the bench they just add a stabilization factor.Either way its something you want to utilize.I always think of it like the outriggers on a backhoe.it would seem to make sense seeing as how some big squat and deadlift guys still have weak benches. just wondering what your thoughts are on that ? Great video ,Good tips.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hmmm if they did, it would be news to me man. It absolutely works for me and my athletes. But I spend more time experimenting than reading about it so I honestly don't know what "is or is not" supposed to work for people anymore.

[@robinpowell1185]

What if i dont have any arms? ALL CHEST BABY OOOOHHHH YEEAAA

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Hahah ok man

[@piersonbartley8279]

Why was there a horse in the intro 🤣

[@SRicPerry]

What's the song at the start of the video?

[@SRicPerry]

Nevermind 😂 It's The Dirt Whispered by Rise Against

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

indeed

[@joshjohnston7388]

The guys with the letters behind their name poo-poo the bench/row thing because they don't have hard data, because there are no long-term studies on that specific thing. This is the case with sooooooo much fitness/injury stuff. Actual fitness "science" is very new and mostly marketing-driven. That said, I've been training on that idea for a while on Brian's rec. The big thing for me is that I can press and row in the same plane at similar volume in the same workout, keep making progress, and not die from fatigue. So I can do it twice a week without overdoing it and I get stronger. I have shirts from 5 years ago (when I was heavier) that no longer fit right because my back and shoulders have spread so much.

[@joshjohnston7388]

@@nichyeoh Absolutely, bro. And so often, the good studies we do get aren't particularly useful. They are often correlational, which means there's no direct link, just a statistical one, and that can be anything. Do pot-smoking gamers do less well in college because they smoke pot or because they game more than they study? Nobody knows. Yeah, I work my rows like a main lift because a strong back is just useful in life and def (like Brian says) supports you better in your pressing. My wife comments on how nice it looks. I think it's fine to hold folks with letters behind their names to certain standards when it comes to "stuff we know for sure or at least have a really good idea about." For guys like Brian, we have to test their methods ourselves. On that note, the neversate training templates are ace. Seems like you really gotta screw something up to not get results.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Thanks josh!

[@joshjohnston7388]

@@BrianAlsruheOfficial thank YOU, man! I've been running your templates for a while now, and it has totally changed my approach to lifting. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us!

[@MrAzzzzzzzzzzzz99]

What do to when you can row more than you can bench? Is it normal?!!

[@jerryolsson7843]

Bench more.....

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Not for most people man but I would try to bring up your bench some.

[@toddinhali]

It's cute how you think I have big enough triceps & lats that they can mash together.

[@bigchad8929]

I got 99 problems but a bench ain't one!

[@markkart7674]

Hit me

[@bigchad8929]

Just for the record I still take advice. Bench can always get better.

[@jakubfrankowski3934]

Soldier surgery? :D

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

funny.

[@robinpowell1185]

You got some workout chalk under your nose whaa? Its not workout chalk.

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

be funnier man.

[@williamembry4192]

Or in my case a 3rd reason:your triceps and chest are to tired but your stupid and try to bench anyway

[@Dog_Walk_POV]

First video I’ve watched, he talks waaaay to fast

[@BrianAlsruheOfficial]

Sorry about that man. But that’s how I speak. If you can’t keep up you can watch it at a lower speed or watch 10,000 other fitness you tubers out there man. Sorry I couldn’t help you out

[@michaelkarayan6652]

Soon as you started saying “you probably are going to need a shoulder surgery soon if not already” I hit that dislike button and closed the video. We need to do better, B. Words can be harmful. Outrageous claims that can’t be supported by evidence should generally be avoided.

[@successfulstone]

What's so outrageous about that claim? Internal rotation of the shoulder combined with flexion of the humerus behind the body is a recipe for acromial-clavicular joint impingement in the future. That's precisely what touching far above the nipple line is doing in relation to that joint. I've never really heard anyone give evidence for a technique that emphasises touching the bar high up on your chest

[@michaelkarayan6652]

victor S. Do you have anything you can cite to support your claims?

[@michaelkarayan6652]

victor S. Didn’t think so.

[@successfulstone]

@@michaelkarayan6652 Well, there are no specific randomised clinical trials for the technique, because firstly, it's a bit niche and secondly, you'll be hard pressed to get ethics approval when you're trying to prove that one of your interventions is probably harmful. But if you look at page 14 of the article here journals.lww.com/nsca-scj/Citation/2001/10000/Avoiding_Shoulder_Injury_From_Resistance_Training.2.aspx it demonstrates the common later raise exercise and how it could lead to impingement. Notice how similar that position is to the bench press halfway down with elbows flared. Generally impingement peaks somewhere between 70 and 120 degrees of humeral elevation I like Greg Knuckols' breakdown of the bench press, and he's pretty squared away with his anatomical explanation of the movement here: www.strongerbyscience.com/how-to-bench/#Shoulder_flexion I'd like to see the evidence stating that benching with the bar touching high on the chest is beneficial. You'd do us all a great favour and educate us

[@michaelkarayan6652]

victor S. To be fair, I never made any claims that touching higher on the chest would be beneficial.