ALREADY BAD? 2018 Toyota Camry A25A Engine With Just 116K Miles! Will They All Have This Problem?

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@K0Kaz
@K0Kaz 3 ай бұрын
I think this shows that it IS possible to design an engine with all the modern geegaws (cooled EGR, DI, electric WP, etc.) and not be overly complicated and hard to service like so many engines we see here.
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 3 ай бұрын
Hate to burst your bubble, but everything you mentioned as “modern” has been around for the last 30 years and common for at least the past 20. But I get your point. Certain manufacturers, especially one that Eric is a huge fan of, intentionally complicate their designs to dissuade their owners and 3rd party auto repair shops from fixing them. There is zero reason from a financial perspective for an auto maker to build their cars to be easy to service, especially auto makers who have incredibly gullible customers who don’t care how expensive or unreliable they are, they just want the badge so they can brag to their neighbors and the other members at the country club.
@donniev8181
@donniev8181 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, Toyota seems to do a top down approach when it comes to design. They think about servicing when they design these engines.
@matthewjuhlin4628
@matthewjuhlin4628 3 ай бұрын
Eric: not a fan of EGR systems John Deere tech: not a fan of EGR systems Kenworth tech: not a fan of EGR systems Cummins tech: not a fan of EGR systems...
@bryanmathew2079
@bryanmathew2079 3 ай бұрын
Like a 3Letter gov Agency😮
@redeye356
@redeye356 3 ай бұрын
"I Do Cars" Saturday teardowns are the highlight of my week.
@Gapines23
@Gapines23 3 ай бұрын
Highlight and early uploads are best cause Sundays are early alarm for work. It’s Eric video as end of day wind down
@rleger123
@rleger123 3 ай бұрын
What a way to enjoy a Saturday night 🎉
@anthonybertone2336
@anthonybertone2336 3 ай бұрын
Amen
@bryanmathew2079
@bryanmathew2079 3 ай бұрын
i' Wish
@jgranger2002
@jgranger2002 3 ай бұрын
I just did an oil change on one of these for a long time costumer. 198k miles. 5k mile oil changes. Drained oil and looked like it had 1k miles on it. Ow16 oil. Clean and clear. His on board mpg said 42.5 mpg. He has without fail changed his oil every 5k miles with 0w16 oil. No timing cover leaks. No other issues with the engine. Both rear wheel bearings have been replaced.
@pault6533
@pault6533 3 ай бұрын
That’s 40 oil changes at $100 (typical dealer cost) for $4000 total. That could be a lot to pay to say your engine is like new when the rest of the car is losing value - which is mostly out of your control. You didn’t say the year or usage. Might be the appropriate thing for this owner, might not.
@donniev8181
@donniev8181 3 ай бұрын
​@pault6533 oil is cheap, engines are not. A 6 quart case of Toyota oil cost $40, $9 for oem filter.
@pault6533
@pault6533 3 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@donniev8181yes, it’s that cheap for some people, myself included. Not everyone is in that situation, including the owner in the post who pays for someone else to do it.
@TXAG81
@TXAG81 3 ай бұрын
@@pault6533If the owner does his own oil changes, should be $35-40 tops each. Full synthetic oil and OEM filter.
@jmabs5096
@jmabs5096 3 ай бұрын
⁠loose the toyta "oil". 5 qts of whatever brand on sale (usually Walmart supertech that is around 19.00 oem filter FROM the dealer for $3-$5 and you got sub $30 oil change. Biggest factor is knowing it's done right. I do my Tacoma every 5-6k this way. Don't let the brand trick you, yea some have minor additive packages benefits but all oil must meet API standards and Walmart/costco etc all neet the best API rating for a DI car (ILSAC-GF6B or A.) if whatever brand has that rating your good to go. Dump at 5k and put fresh whatever in it (do use OEM or a high end aftermarket filter like wix XP., fram ultra synthetic etc. Tech tip, shop around at dealers to find really cheap oem filters. I ordered 10 filters for my Tacoma (the annoying media and oring nonsense) for $3.25 a piece. No box store or even online can match that price
@scottmaguire8445
@scottmaguire8445 3 ай бұрын
I am a Toyota tech in Canada. I have been with Toyota since 2018 when these A25A series engines were first being rolled out. In 6 years I have only seen one of these engines being torn down for warranty repairs, and I was that tech who repaired that engine. I had a worn out rod bearing on cylinder 4 if my memory is correct. That is really the ONLY major engine fault I have seen on the A25A engine at the dealership I work at. I have yet to see any cooling system related failures on these engines.
@royferntorp
@royferntorp 3 ай бұрын
I worked for Toyota Australia. We replaced a couple of these under warranty. Sent them back to base or factory for inspection. Initally it was ring issue. The part numbers changed.
@TeezerDriz
@TeezerDriz 3 ай бұрын
​@@royferntorp low tension rings? New part number a higher tension ring?
@toreik8035
@toreik8035 3 ай бұрын
What do you think caused this one to fail - overheating?
@royferntorp
@royferntorp 3 ай бұрын
@@TeezerDriz Top Compression ring. Also, the gapping in the manual was also in a bulletin. We only had around 2 rebuilds per year. The engine shop was pretty much empty because we had access to long blocks.
@marc-oliviercabot3380
@marc-oliviercabot3380 3 ай бұрын
We changed one of those on warranty not long ago. Broken top ring (cylinder 2 or 3, don't remember) but apart from that.. it seems like a pretty solid engine and so is it's 2.0l cousin, the M20A-FKS (FXS).
@DIYDaveOK
@DIYDaveOK 3 ай бұрын
My wife's 2020 Rav4 has this engine, and I am *ruthless* on the 6mo/5,000 mile oil change interval. I saw this video come up and kinda gasped, then felt good to see this didn't look like some chronic issue. Great as always.
@IKnewMickey
@IKnewMickey 3 ай бұрын
Those bearings end the "0w16 oil is too thin" argument. I've heard engine builders say these motors have low tension piston rings that can lead to scuffing the cylinders and oil burning issues. With Toyota building millions of these A25A engines every year, it's not unusual to see a few "bad" ones. Cheers Eric! Great channel!!
@I_Do_Cars
@I_Do_Cars 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. However, I would never use it on an engine that wasn’t designed for it! In most cases, manufacturers spec is correct, but the exceptions can save the engine!
@Duken4evr29
@Duken4evr29 3 ай бұрын
Toyotas are well engineered for thin oil. Hyundai/Kia not so much 😂
@duffman247
@duffman247 3 ай бұрын
@@I_Do_CarsI looked in other comments, but is there any way to test Toyota electric water pumps? I remember you also held onto the Prius electric water pump in a previous video.
@mandmwaddle
@mandmwaddle 3 ай бұрын
​@@duffman247in theory you could provide the pump power, ground and the PWM signal it is looking for to operate. I don't know if that's worth it. Might be interesting.
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 3 ай бұрын
0w16 is too thin…for an engine that calls for 5w30. In the same way, 5w30 is way too thick for an engine that calls for 0w16 and would probably kill it quickly. Engines that call for thin oil typically use much tighter bearing and other clearances, along with wider bearing surfaces and different oil pumps designed for the thinner oil. TLDR, use the oil that is specified for your engine and it will be just fine. The engineers who built the engine are way more qualified to make that decision than you.
@johnnysokko8505
@johnnysokko8505 3 ай бұрын
A little over 100,000 miles and the bearings look like new. Impressive to me.
@vincenthardman7691
@vincenthardman7691 3 ай бұрын
Please don't stop releasing the videos on a Saturday night. It's morning in the UK and I don't get out bed until I've watched the latest tear down. Thanks for the great videos Eric, always fascinating and entertaining.
@stanleystrycharz2572
@stanleystrycharz2572 3 ай бұрын
That engine shows signs of burning oil. The ring lands for one of those look terrible. Engines with low-tention piston rings will gum up the ring lands, score the cylinder walls and start to comsuem oil if you don't change the oil regularly. At 5000 mi not 7500 to 10,000. Oil is the key!! Keep it clean and use good oil and these engines will go 300K. This one was not well maintained. Love your videos! Thanks for sharing all the information too.
@RexMods
@RexMods 3 ай бұрын
Eric considering selling a used water pump? I'm calling the police.
@marc-oliviercabot3380
@marc-oliviercabot3380 3 ай бұрын
Well those are crazy expensive. At least they are in Canada.. often 800+$$..
@yankee2yankee216
@yankee2yankee216 3 ай бұрын
I bought a NEW water pump for my old Saab, years ago now, as a prophylactic measure, because when they failed, they put the fan straight through the radiator. But it didn’t work out as planned. The NEW water pump failed, immediately, destroying the fan and the radiator! Was I pleased? You bet…
@jeremysmith1777
@jeremysmith1777 3 ай бұрын
​@@marc-oliviercabot3380with labor, an A25A water pump replacement is under $800. They are prone to failure. Eric throwing it in the garbage would have been the right thing to do.
@limpans_speedshop
@limpans_speedshop 3 ай бұрын
@@yankee2yankee216Is it a V4? Those are Ford components…very short shaft on the water pump = lots of stress on the bearings
@sharkinstx
@sharkinstx 3 ай бұрын
@@jeremysmith1777Is that for the Toyota part, in a Toyota dealer? And why do they use an electric water pump? Sounds like one of those stupid things Audi does.
@dawnpoint
@dawnpoint 3 ай бұрын
Glad to see Toyota still making engines that are somewhat straightforward to take apart.
@marathoner43
@marathoner43 3 ай бұрын
As always Eric, thanks for the Saturday night entertainment. Nice to see Mrs. IDoCars make a cameo in the video as well. I only wonder what's she going to do with 2 used timing chain guides? :D
@richtes
@richtes 3 ай бұрын
Did she get a water pump for Valentines Day?
@marathoner43
@marathoner43 3 ай бұрын
@@richtes It went well with the piston mcnugget necklace he got her for Christmas. :D
@tastyautomotive5619
@tastyautomotive5619 3 ай бұрын
Used to be a toyota tech. I replaced one of these short blocks due to the electric water pump failure and customers continue to drive. The electric water pump is suspect for me here.
@StoneyBaloneyUSA
@StoneyBaloneyUSA 3 ай бұрын
Yes, there is a blown up Camry on my lot from a teen driver and failed electrical water pump, bad combo.
@toninocars
@toninocars 3 ай бұрын
If electric water pump fail it will trigger immediately a dashboard warning lights so if that’s the case then it’s a drivers error for continuing driving with fault
@johnt.848
@johnt.848 3 ай бұрын
People forget temperature gauges are a thing.
@donniev8181
@donniev8181 3 ай бұрын
What are some of the signs of one going bad?
@tastyautomotive5619
@tastyautomotive5619 3 ай бұрын
@@donniev8181 there are no signs other than a check engine light will show the second the water pump quits.
@jeffjankiewicz5100
@jeffjankiewicz5100 3 ай бұрын
I never miss a teardown, my Saturday night ritual.
@bobbyr8071
@bobbyr8071 3 ай бұрын
No uncle Rodney today though 😂😂😂
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 3 ай бұрын
Eric, thank you for including chapters on this video. I do well with 15-20 minute video, but with longer ones like this I lose interest. Following along with the chapters makes it so much better. For me at least.
@johnvaz2048
@johnvaz2048 3 ай бұрын
Ok so I work on a fleet of taxi cabs we have all hybrid Camrys. Years range from 2014-2019. Our 2019’s are the most problematic at around 250 k I put a new cylinder head on them with all new gaskets and kick them out the door. Our 2014-2016 we on average get 500-750k on these cars pretty amazing. Definitely not a fan of the newer A25A engine. Lots of issues. Great video
@91CavGT5
@91CavGT5 3 ай бұрын
What kind of issue do you see with them when they get high in the miles?
@verlaryder
@verlaryder 3 ай бұрын
Please tell us what wears out at around 250K that requires cylinder head replacement?
@CL-yp1bs
@CL-yp1bs 3 ай бұрын
I have a Corolla with the 2ZR-FE engine (2019, the last year before Dynamic force engine switchover) I get less MPG (like 30 instead of 38 to 40) but no EGR... seems like my engine will last longer than the new ones.
@alanbradford3130
@alanbradford3130 3 ай бұрын
It would been interesting to see if the head had gotten warped, by putting a straight edge against the surface of the head.
@th3R0b0t
@th3R0b0t 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, the intake side head bolts seemed to be, by all assumptions, correct torque, but the exhaust side all seems, a little... "less tight" based off the sound. Plus, when he flipped the headgasket, you could see how clean the steel was on the waterport lines, vs cylinder 4, that wasn't as clean. I think someone over heated it, and it lifted that side very badly, then became a slight coolant burner... which eventually got into a milkshake maker. And maybe the engines are so cheap from wrecked cars that, "cheaper to change it, than do a head gasket." happened.
@alanbradford3130
@alanbradford3130 3 ай бұрын
@@th3R0b0t - I just was surprised that someone would come to that conclusion with a Toyota engine! Hyundai maybe, but not a Toyota...
@tomkzinti2760
@tomkzinti2760 3 ай бұрын
Using the plier handle to loosen the oil filter was fkn funny! I saw that coming and had a good laugh when it worked. You're funny, good job. Also, good job on your real-time narration! As always, you've schooled yourself beforehand and never missed a beat as a result. Pure sheer genius at work. ;)
@davidg3944
@davidg3944 3 ай бұрын
I love the channel, but I have a mild suspicion that Eric loosen the filter first before using the handle as shown. A properly tightened filter isn't going to be that easy to break free...
@tomkzinti2760
@tomkzinti2760 3 ай бұрын
@@davidg3944 well, since when are all filters properly tightened to begin with? I've worked in the pit for two different quick lube chain stores, and I've seen some straight up dumb shit roll in...
@davidg3944
@davidg3944 3 ай бұрын
@@tomkzinti2760 Sure, but that's dumbassery as opposed to YT setups.
@Bigfoothawk
@Bigfoothawk 3 ай бұрын
​@@davidg3944 "set up" calm down its an engine channel.
@davidg3944
@davidg3944 3 ай бұрын
@@Bigfoothawk What part of "I love the channel" do you not understand? Rhetorical question, as comprehension isn't your thing...
@patrickpetsinger2439
@patrickpetsinger2439 3 ай бұрын
Was the one that caught the guides the real boss, 🤔 🤣 😂. I bet so, Eric didn't argue.
@watercannonscollaboration2281
@watercannonscollaboration2281 3 ай бұрын
Speculations aside on how these fail, as someone with a RX350 with a 237k mile 2GR-FE, I’m just happy to see a tear down of any Toyota engine to see what’s behind the scenes
@modmod392
@modmod392 3 ай бұрын
No Malice in the Combustion Palace….love it. Gotta stick that on tee shirt merch 😊
@geeniusatwrok
@geeniusatwrok 3 ай бұрын
I gotta wonder if Eric borrowed that from the Three Stooges short "Malice in the Palace". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malice_in_the_Palace
@janikakis
@janikakis 3 ай бұрын
Send this to "The Car Care Nut"
@crazy4gta1
@crazy4gta1 3 ай бұрын
I’d love to see him tear down an engine. Would be a cool video
@pigletshut
@pigletshut 3 ай бұрын
​@@crazy4gta1He did, on occasion. Just not to Eric's level.
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver 3 ай бұрын
Car care nut would find a reason to say it was not a Toyota issue.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 3 ай бұрын
May the lord bless you and keep you.
@capps2015
@capps2015 3 ай бұрын
​@@crazy4gta1 He showed a Short block change on a 2ar-fe.
@sergeantpeppers8858
@sergeantpeppers8858 3 ай бұрын
Every week, more crammin' cap cracks loose. Good job, Eric. Good job.
@SSV-i-c-e
@SSV-i-c-e 3 ай бұрын
1st in New Zealand always waiting for a new vid to drop Sunday lunchtime 🇳🇿
@johnpurdum8126
@johnpurdum8126 3 ай бұрын
I bought a '20 Camary used and the service records were good. I will do my best to keep up with the maintenance. Oil change every 5k or sooner. After reading the comments i now know i need to watch out for water pump failure. Dig this channel!
@applepoop10
@applepoop10 3 ай бұрын
My 2021 RAV4 is sitting at 73k miles. I will consider having the water pump replaced soon just so it doesn’t fail in the future.
@michaelseibold9977
@michaelseibold9977 3 ай бұрын
Great! An appearance of the lovely Mrs. Eric!
@Miles-wy1zr
@Miles-wy1zr 3 ай бұрын
“Clickbait champion” man I died laughing. Scotty is the man.
@benjaminwayneb
@benjaminwayneb 3 ай бұрын
Scotty is an Idiot that has no idea what he's talking about.
@donniev8181
@donniev8181 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Eric for tearing one of these down, ive not seen a single video about these engines! I just purchased a 2024 Camry SE and the car is a dream to drive. These engines have great heat efficiency, I can turn the car off and come back 4 hours later and the engine will still be warm. Change your antifreeze every 2 years people, it starts to get acidic after 30k miles.
@Sam-go3mb
@Sam-go3mb 3 ай бұрын
Damn, these new engines will be like the Palms Casino Resort for rats and mice then 😂
@IKnewMickey
@IKnewMickey 3 ай бұрын
@@donniev8181 The car care nut channel has a rebuild video for the A25A from when he worked at Toyota. A piston exploded causing a short block replacement.
@donniev8181
@donniev8181 3 ай бұрын
@FrankySilverFace I don't think that was that was the A25A-FXS/FKS engine, I believe that was the older 4cyl out of a 09' Camry, but I could be mistaken. What is the specific title of the video.
@pokefan5022
@pokefan5022 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2016 Camry. I change the oil every 3k miles. I use mobile one ep oil and not the cheap stuff. I use a new Toyota oil filter each time too. I change the coolant and trans fluid every 30k. It may be overkill, but I don’t care. It has 100k and drives like it has 100 miles.
@91CavGT5
@91CavGT5 3 ай бұрын
Every single vehicle that has really high miles didn’t get there with neglected maintenance. Don’t ever apologize for that! 👍
@viewlesswind
@viewlesswind 3 ай бұрын
Thats the way to do it.
@donniev8181
@donniev8181 24 күн бұрын
Toyota oem oil has 10x the dry lubrication additive molybdenum compared to the next closest competitor. There's a great oil analysis video here on KZbin. It's titled Toyota OEM oil vs Mobil 1 vs Penzoil vs Amsoil. The guy sends off 4 samples of new oil to the lab for analysis. Toyota engineers designed this oil specifically for these engines. Plus, you can get a 6 quart case for right around $40 through the Toyota app.
@pokefan5022
@pokefan5022 24 күн бұрын
@@donniev8181 you just blew my mind. The 6 quart is $50 now which is nearly double the price of mobile one, but my car only takes 5 quarts and oddly enough, 1 quart is only $5.50. It will only cost me $27 for Toyota oil!!!
@donniev8181
@donniev8181 23 күн бұрын
@pokefan5022 if you go through the app it's $39.95 through the dealership closest to my place. Look around at different dealerships around your location. Yeah, the oil analysis video is a great video. I was planning on using Amsoil in my 24' Toyota Camry SE, strictly because of the amount of molybdenum in it's additive package. Then I happened across dude's oil analysis video. Those Toyota engineers know what they are doing, did you happen to find the video? The screenshot for the video is the paper report from the lab that was sent back to him. The narrator has a bit of a Spanish accent.
@misterdeedeedee
@misterdeedeedee 3 ай бұрын
"the clickbait champion himself who dies 14 times a year" gee i wonder who he could _possibly_ be talking about🤣🤣🤣
@sqmotorsports9230
@sqmotorsports9230 3 ай бұрын
I laughed hard at that one
@htimmermans1938
@htimmermans1938 3 ай бұрын
Where's Scotty?
@jeremysmith1777
@jeremysmith1777 3 ай бұрын
​@@htimmermans1938we don't invoke The Unnameable One's name here. The algorithm likes him way too much.
@intimidatorno3ca
@intimidatorno3ca 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, I forgot about that guy. Never really watched his content anyway.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 3 ай бұрын
Rev up your engines
@DSMattitude
@DSMattitude 3 ай бұрын
Ive noticed they sure like layers in modern engines. Upper cam thingy, lower cam thingy, inner and out tim8ng covers. upper and lower oil pans.
@davidenglish6799
@davidenglish6799 3 ай бұрын
I am currently a Toyota tech. Seen the water pumps go out and cause the coolant and engine oil to overheat. They will damage the engine and coolant system if not fixed.
@donniev8181
@donniev8181 24 күн бұрын
Whats the first sign of one going out? Just purchased a 24 Camry
@Jonboy2312
@Jonboy2312 13 сағат бұрын
I just wanted to say... Best ASMR channel 2024, and I'm not joking.
@chiplacey256
@chiplacey256 3 ай бұрын
The twin turbo 6s are under warranty, and Toyota will never let a bad engine replaced under warranty loose for people to analyze. Neither will any other manufacturer.
@bigdaddymak1439
@bigdaddymak1439 3 ай бұрын
Multiple videos on KZbin of that engine tore down. Toyota already said it's from debris in the oil gallery
@martin-vv9lf
@martin-vv9lf 3 ай бұрын
there's a lot of crashed vehicles he could recover from.
@fl_atv_riders4455
@fl_atv_riders4455 3 ай бұрын
@@bigdaddymak1439 except its not caused by debris. Oil starvation causes bearing failures that creates the debris. Any engine builder will tell you if debris is in the eng it will blow up within the first or second oil change. Not 40,000 miles later.
@bigdaddymak1439
@bigdaddymak1439 3 ай бұрын
@@fl_atv_riders4455 you're wrong it's only one bearing that gets starved. It just takes a while for it to get dislodged and clog the gallery to the bearing. Hyundai Kia has had the same issue.
@Ghauster
@Ghauster 3 ай бұрын
@@bigdaddymak1439 In fact. My SiL's KIA goes in soon to have the engine assessed under the extended warranty. The oil cap floats when you loosen it well running.
@Prisonmike89
@Prisonmike89 3 ай бұрын
I asked for an A25A video so thanks for doing one finally! They seem like a really well designed engine. A guy did 470k miles on his Rav4 hybrid so I don't doubt the longevity of the engine if taken care of.
@sammyjammy6647
@sammyjammy6647 3 ай бұрын
Do you know if it’s still running?
@Prisonmike89
@Prisonmike89 3 ай бұрын
@@sammyjammy6647 Yes it was running fine, the dealer had it for sale for like $17k lol. 46 oil changes
@ratdude747
@ratdude747 3 ай бұрын
I work for the Toyota supplier that makes the exhaust manifold for that engine... this engine is used on all sorts of vehicles (very high volume)... like Frank's Red Hot, they put that "stuff" on everything! Said manifold is a complicated one... 4 runners and an EGR pipe with a cat on the end. Hence why you didn't get one with it. One of the trickier ones to produce due to all the pipes and welds needed to make it.
@sppoitier1
@sppoitier1 3 ай бұрын
I never thought I'd see one of these engines on this channel. When you mentioned this, I had to see it for myself.
@nathanielpreble5108
@nathanielpreble5108 3 ай бұрын
The rumblings I’ve heard are these engines are vulnerable to “cylinder wash down” when the engine isn’t aloud to reach operating temperature. ie just moving the vehicle out of the driveway then shutting it off after only a minute or two. A few years of this procedure and this is what happens.
@mariusfrost640
@mariusfrost640 3 ай бұрын
These are my favourite videos. I've seen endless components that have exploded, it's not very common to see ones that have failed, but not catastrophically. It gives us a chance to see the subtle wear and tear.
@OnlyMeee-ie3dw
@OnlyMeee-ie3dw 3 ай бұрын
Toyota quietly replaced tens of thousand of those engines because of bad castings. Water and/or oil was seeping through the blocks. If it was oil, the engine was replaced. If it was water they snuck in block sealer. My 2020 Camry smelled like hot antifreeze during the summer. It was by accident I noticed block sealer was added to mine when I picked it up from the dealer for the third time because of continuous problems Toyota said were normal. Toyota didn't do a recall, they left it up to the customer to find the problem. More are getting out of warranty now, it might get interesting.
@jeremiah._.hamman9255
@jeremiah._.hamman9255 Ай бұрын
Same issue when they put it in the 2019 rav4. I have a 2021 with an A25A it’s interesting to me the engine is specified for 180ish hp but the rav4 pushes just over 200 and has had coolant bypass valve issues.
@OnlyMeee-ie3dw
@OnlyMeee-ie3dw Ай бұрын
@@jeremiah._.hamman9255 Yeah, many of the A25A's weren't casted right. I took mine back a few times complaining about the overheat smell but Toyota brushed it off with more excuses. The 8-speed made my experience worse with the hard shift and delays going in gear, not to mention the constant shifting. It annoyed the crap out of me. My 2020 Camry was rated at 203. The hybrid was less from the engine but the electric portion gave more to the final drive. If there was a problem that could be imagined, my Camry might have done it. The wheels didn't fall off but it made me wonder if it would happen a few times. Question about the coolant valves... were they actual valves with variable flow like a plumbing valve or was it just open and close with no inbetween?
@jeremiah._.hamman9255
@jeremiah._.hamman9255 Ай бұрын
@ I don’t know that much about the coolant bypass valve issues other than that it’s something to look out for for so I couldn’t tell you. I haven’t gotten around to actually dive into the details. It’s just something going around the RAV4 forums apparently it was fixed with the 2023 model
@OnlyMeee-ie3dw
@OnlyMeee-ie3dw Ай бұрын
@@jeremiah._.hamman9255 I need to look it up to see what changed between my 2020 and the later models of that engine. Is there another problem with the Toyota's they are hiding? It makes me wonder if it was a bad vendor part or another bad design.
@karrackhalcyon8826
@karrackhalcyon8826 3 ай бұрын
As someone with 60k on my 19 Camry 2.5, this teardown makes me incredibly happy with how well built this motor is.
@TheMadTube
@TheMadTube 3 ай бұрын
“Clickbait champion that dies 15 times a year.” Gods. DAMN. Throw that shade. I love it.
@edasm4113
@edasm4113 3 ай бұрын
I unsubscribed. I couldn't take it any more.
@thelonelywolf88
@thelonelywolf88 3 ай бұрын
​@@edasm4113you must be one of them
@mikek5298
@mikek5298 3 ай бұрын
@@edasm4113That “Clickbait champion” has twenty times, TWENTY TIMES, more subscribers than this channel. Low intellect people like you fail to grasp sarcasm, irony, and humor. It sucks to be you.
@MrTobytat2
@MrTobytat2 3 ай бұрын
​@@thelonelywolf88 He unsubscribed from Scotty, Bud.
@AARONLT25
@AARONLT25 3 ай бұрын
I used to be subbed to Scotty but he mostly reposts the same things every week or so and it's all clickbait
@JetLagRecords
@JetLagRecords 3 ай бұрын
I Do Cars, your dedication is paying off, keep it up
@marcnotyou3191
@marcnotyou3191 3 ай бұрын
Would you consider making a video showing how to remove difficult connectors, i.e. electrical, HVAC lines, transmission lines, etc with close-ups and the special tools needed?
@TheSleepyMechanic0524
@TheSleepyMechanic0524 3 ай бұрын
patiently waiting for the M20A-FKS teardown as I have one
@robertmack3828
@robertmack3828 3 ай бұрын
Please get your hands on a 2016-2018 6.4 Hemi 392. Would love to see that one time
@WiseGuyzGarage
@WiseGuyzGarage 3 ай бұрын
I tore down one of these too. It got so hot the pistons melted to the cylinder wall. It was pretty unbelievable to see the damage inside of it. The bearings were perfect on the inside. If you want I have a lot of the engine still I would gladly donate if you cover the shipping lol
@WiseGuyzGarage
@WiseGuyzGarage 3 ай бұрын
A lot of people mentioned that the water pump is usually a common failure for these engines around that mileage. The one I tore down died because of that sadly
@walter68bug98
@walter68bug98 3 ай бұрын
Next time you throw a timing chain guide. You should do the swoosh sound from happy Gilmore when he hit the ball.
@allanhope7018
@allanhope7018 3 ай бұрын
These are great engines. I bought a 2020 rav4 hybrid new and had it for 2.5 years and 46k kms. Stick to 8k km oil changes, no matter what the manufacturer says. They’ll last forever if you stick to that and use good oil.
@mahcooharper9577
@mahcooharper9577 3 ай бұрын
The (darkly) funny thing about Scotty is thag when he eventually does die there won't be a video with him telling us that. Thanks as always Eric, compulsory viewing - in tribute to you I now carefully remove clamps before cutting hoses off, and send water pumps to the moon when I change them. +1 for the idea of merch too, I'd wear it!
@calgarytek
@calgarytek 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate the tear down but can't help noticing how this is absolutely ancient technology.
@theredscourge
@theredscourge 3 ай бұрын
That's how Toyota rolls. A25A is actually Atkinson-cycle though.
@johnt.848
@johnt.848 3 ай бұрын
Based on the evidence it ran low on coolant and got hot, overheating the engine. There was the corrosion internally where coolant should have been, the steam cleaned piston, and the brittle conduit pieces all over the engine which only happens from heat.
@andrecampbell691
@andrecampbell691 3 ай бұрын
On these engines, Toyota recommends that LOF change is 10k, I change my oil at 5k, and filter at 10k.
@arm2644
@arm2644 3 ай бұрын
I don't know but on this Toyota Engines you only see quality and perfection all very well engineered and NO built in planned obsolescence like other manufacturers, that is why Toyota is the best!
@Arman-tm1kz
@Arman-tm1kz 3 ай бұрын
The non-OEM oil drain plug, plug gasket and oil filter were already telling to me. Somehow it's always the Toyota with aftermarket parts that have these strange issues
@ronnymb67
@ronnymb67 3 ай бұрын
According to AMD on The Car Care Nut, those cylinders have what is essentially a spray-on coating that makes those blocks non-serviceable and pretty much a one time use.
@Brian-vh7gb
@Brian-vh7gb 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Every cylinder had multiple dark vertical streaks. According to the car the car care nut, that block is done. I believe it was a 2AR 4 cylinder oil burning engine the car car nut was looking at in that episode. But he was adamant that when you see the dark, verticle streaking, even in just 1 cylinder, it's time for a new engine.
@guygaric940
@guygaric940 3 ай бұрын
I’ve made this comment throughout the channel already but please do a 2.4 2AZ. They’re blown up everywhere from bad piston rings and oil starvation, some are also known for head gasket issues. Wanna see you tear one down.
@XY_Dude
@XY_Dude 3 ай бұрын
I would like to see the day that a current-day engine (with care) will routinely go "forever." Very few, for sure.
@JamesWeber-q6p
@JamesWeber-q6p 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for what you do and sharing it with the rest of us. I enjoy both the engine tear downs and the car rescues. I am hoping one day you to tear down a BMW M54 engine. I have a 2002 E46 330i with 278K miles that keeps on running. Thank you again.
@davidr.wilson8194
@davidr.wilson8194 3 ай бұрын
When I bought my most recent Toyota,a 2020 Corolla LE,I chose it because it was the last year you could get the tried and proven,for over thirty years 1.8 litre engine.I feel I made the right choice.I felt the new Dynamic Force engines were too new and had too many potential failure points.I also don't like that Toyota went back to an EGR valve on these motors,a potential headache of clogging up and needing cleaned.
@mandmwaddle
@mandmwaddle 3 ай бұрын
We have a 2023 Corolla with the old 1.8, the 2024 we just got has the new 2.0. I personally can't feel much difference in power and I can't imagine the fuel economy is much better either. Only time will tell the reliability. All I do know is properly maintained that old 1.8 will go forever.
@lomfmur
@lomfmur 3 ай бұрын
Im assuming you know but those 1.8s over those 30 years were multiple completely different engines, Toyota just has a formula that they follow and it works
@CL-yp1bs
@CL-yp1bs 3 ай бұрын
Same, I have a 2019 corolla... it was mostly 2020 when they switched from the 1.8 2zr-fe to the m20a dynamic force.. mile per gallon went way up... about 20% higher... but i dont care. I still get 30mpg and I know its much more reliable. Taken care of these are 500k miles engines instead of 250k mile engines like the new ones (loosely speaking, there are exceptions)
@liver.flush.maestro
@liver.flush.maestro 3 ай бұрын
Man! I love your sense of humor 🙂
@randywooldridge9064
@randywooldridge9064 3 ай бұрын
All right, I’m not someone to buy merchandise off of KZbin But how many are with me that we need I do cars T-shirts?
@mentorofarisia371
@mentorofarisia371 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, with "It'll be fine" underneath.
@hirogodsend
@hirogodsend 3 ай бұрын
There needs to be a shirt for Blue
@Gapines23
@Gapines23 3 ай бұрын
Malice in Combustion Palace and Where’s Blue at least
@TestECull
@TestECull 3 ай бұрын
I'd rather buy mangled piston/rod assemblies, cranks, etc.
@AARONLT25
@AARONLT25 3 ай бұрын
@@TestECull that's what I did from that 3.7 a few days ago I bought a piston and rod
@timbober1
@timbober1 3 ай бұрын
Great channel thank you for taking the time to record and share
@flyer709477
@flyer709477 3 ай бұрын
Quality content,as always. Thanks
@brandonstewart7145
@brandonstewart7145 3 ай бұрын
As always very entertaining Eric, thank you sir. That reference went over my head until reading the comments and that's just hilarious 😂. To bad there wasn't any malice in the combustion palace but you can't win them all 😅!! Never change man!!!!
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x 3 ай бұрын
Engine overheated and caused a leaking head gasket and thats why it has one clean piston and one sparkplug the electrode was clean and wet looking ! You can bake new coatings on the piston skirts in your home oven and reuse them or buy new pistons if you end up boring the sleeves and put this engine back together.
@theredscourge
@theredscourge 3 ай бұрын
I sure wouldn't recommend using the same oven for food and for powder coating, sounds like a good way to bake cancer cakes
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x 3 ай бұрын
@@theredscourge - Its not powder coating paint, it is liquid ceramics and it depends on the brand, some say not to use it in an oven you cook food in due to the chemicals in the ceramic liquid, other brands say theirs is ok.
@DavidJones-wq5fx
@DavidJones-wq5fx 4 күн бұрын
Better buy another oven for parts
@theprobeius
@theprobeius 3 ай бұрын
What a catch of those timing chain guides! Sign her to the St. Louis Rams practice sq.......
@LSR-YT21
@LSR-YT21 3 ай бұрын
Early Dynamic Force engines had head gasket issues. Higher compression (more heat/pressure for efficiency) + new engine = some issues. Dynamic Force engines are greats engines and this was probably an issues from day one. Defective engine and only showed its face around 100K miles unfortunately Don’t think it’s worth worrying about it just yet. I had seen a couple fail this way already though 2.0L and 2.5L Dynamic Force engines. Toyota is using a very similar technology to Mazda and they also faced some head gasket issues but also a non issues tbh. Super rare but very unfortunate if you do have it. This is just the issue with modern engines. Thinner everything and smaller with more pressure and temperature than ever. Plus making a lot more power than before.
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL 3 ай бұрын
Q: 2001 Subaru Outback LL Bean. It has always over the 13 years I've owned it had an issue where slowly uses coolant, a few pints per year. Normally this car sees about 2000 miles per year driving to and from the airport in Fort Lauderdale, since it is an "airport car", I fly for a tiny cargo airline in Memphis that paints the tails of the planes purple. Anyway, there are no leaks. This is a six cylinder engine, these don't have head gasket issues at all. Nothing in the oil, but the coolant overflow reservoir rises on long drives. I recently drove it 1050 miles from Fort Lauderdale to Memphis, and it pushed about 1/2 gallon of coolant into the coolant reservoir at a constant 70 mph with the AC cranking in 97 degree heat, I knew this because there was coolant spray on top of the engine from the overflow reservoir. The radiator cap is new, straight from Subaru and was made in Japan. The temperature gauge stayed right in the middle, where it always sits. Hmm.... Thoughts?
@adamads7004
@adamads7004 3 ай бұрын
Combustion pressure in the coolant. Do the head gasket test kit.. Sorry to hear that..
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL 3 ай бұрын
@@adamads7004 I'm going to do a test of exhaust gasses in the coolant, they sell them at Autozone and other places.
@AlienLivesMatter
@AlienLivesMatter 3 ай бұрын
Air bubble in the coolant system. Around the area where the temp sensors are located.
@someguywithaphone5921
@someguywithaphone5921 3 ай бұрын
Hey Eric. You said "pay attention to the scent of your exhaust"... I'm guessing that's for the telltale coolant stank?
@I_Do_Cars
@I_Do_Cars 3 ай бұрын
Sure is!
@kmatax9237
@kmatax9237 3 ай бұрын
Nice to see one of these apart… was considering a new camry soon, 1 semi bad engine…ill take those odds
@davidbeaumont4455
@davidbeaumont4455 3 ай бұрын
I caught the click bait reference too. I checked the "not interested " in his channel and now I don't even get him as a suggestion!
@therealdojj
@therealdojj 3 ай бұрын
For those of us who don't know, who are we avoiding again? Thanks
@aderi31415
@aderi31415 3 ай бұрын
@@therealdojj Scotty Kilmer
@therealdojj
@therealdojj 3 ай бұрын
@@aderi31415 oh, yeah, tell me about it lol!!!!!
@jpkalishek4586
@jpkalishek4586 3 ай бұрын
I must be doing something right . . . I have two different log ins and I think I've only gotten a few at work where I'm not signed into YT. That said, what is recommended there is garbage.
@sharkinstx
@sharkinstx 3 ай бұрын
“Died 14 times in the last year?” I hadn’t heard about that. As much as I like Toyotas, I wouldn’t watch Scotty’s channel.
@renchjeep
@renchjeep 3 ай бұрын
As someone else said (and maybe more than one someone's) I would love to see a straightedge on the head and the block deck. I suspect the coolant went low (yes, I am looking at you, EGR cooler) and the engine got a bit toasty, leading to warpage. But, yes, it was caught early before anything catastrophic. I might dingle-ball those cylinders, surface what needs to be surfaced, replace the rings, and send it! Oh, and re-use those fantastic rod and main bearings as well. What the F is that coating? I need that in ALL my engines! Thanks, Eric, for the infotainment.
@richardgraham1167
@richardgraham1167 3 ай бұрын
Saturday is complete!
@austincjett
@austincjett 3 ай бұрын
@ 8:30 ish the reason for the fully compressed tensioner and slack in the chain is someone turned the motor over backwards.
@visualartsbyjr2464
@visualartsbyjr2464 3 ай бұрын
I honestly thought that a few of those head bolts were going to sheer off
@JeremyAnthony-w2r
@JeremyAnthony-w2r 3 ай бұрын
Did you blow that motor up Eric? I think you did lol. Awesome channel man. Love your videos.
@bradmeyer1800
@bradmeyer1800 3 ай бұрын
Woo 13 seconds. My best time yet
@thelonelywolf88
@thelonelywolf88 3 ай бұрын
What does she think? 😂
@bradmeyer1800
@bradmeyer1800 3 ай бұрын
@thelonelywolf88 😆 unfortunately there isn't a she at the moment
@zonie70
@zonie70 3 ай бұрын
Glad to see this teardown . My 2022 Venza Hybrid has the A25A-FXS . Think pretty much the same . I live in Phoenix, always hot here and did worry about the use of 0-16 oil. Had the car 3 years now with 34,000 miles . No issues yet 🤞🏼
@4af
@4af 3 ай бұрын
0W-16 is a USA EPA compliance matter. No EPA in Mexico so Camry manuals in Mexico tell owners they can use 0W-16, 0W-20, 5W-20, and 5W-30 in the A25A engine. 10W-30 if winter temps do not get below zero degrees F.`
@zonie70
@zonie70 3 ай бұрын
@@4af That is very interesting information . Thank you for that . I wonder what some other countries call for ?
@Noypi54494
@Noypi54494 2 ай бұрын
Are you using 0W-16 in Phoenix or did you go thicker viscosity?
@zonie70
@zonie70 2 ай бұрын
@@Noypi54494 I’m using 0w16 , I just had to not worry about it.
@Noypi54494
@Noypi54494 2 ай бұрын
​@zonie70 Thank You! I'm at 8000 miles on a 2024 Rav4 Prime and so far changed the oil at 800, 4000, and 8000 miles all on 0w-16. I'm debating moving up to a 20 or 30 weight at 12000 miles but we'll see.
@uptownsamcv
@uptownsamcv 3 ай бұрын
those water pumps are pretty expensive. one of my friends has a 2019 and the water pump went bad at 75,XXX miles. the electric water pump was around $290..
@doglegjake6788
@doglegjake6788 3 ай бұрын
I sure miss my 1984 4wd drive Toyota 4 runner ,, Best truck I ever owned
@runningawayvagabond5876
@runningawayvagabond5876 3 ай бұрын
There are few hard truth's in life but one of them is (speaking cars here, not trucks) get yourself a Honda or Toyota vehicle with a 2.0-2.5l naturally aspirated 4 cylinder, keep it maintained and don't drive it like an idiot and you won't wear it out.
@appalachianpatriot1796
@appalachianpatriot1796 3 ай бұрын
I built the top end of that thing. 😂 well, at least the camshaft housing. (Not tower)Those cam cap bolts are pre threaded by hand before being torqued by a machine. It hurt just watching you unbolt them. 😢
@dskwared2u610
@dskwared2u610 3 ай бұрын
Hahahaha, I caught the Kilmer reference. The dude blocked me for something. It may have been for mocking his clickbait thumbnails
@surfside75
@surfside75 3 ай бұрын
😂 I didn't know Scott was salty.
@thelonelywolf88
@thelonelywolf88 3 ай бұрын
@@dskwared2u610 I've seen hilarious YTPs of him, and he comments on them, all butthurt about it 😂
@thelonelywolf88
@thelonelywolf88 3 ай бұрын
@@surfside75 his videos make me feel like he's a prick in real life
@alexs.818
@alexs.818 3 ай бұрын
His earlier videos were pretty helpful and fun, but after the 2020 election he pretty much sold himself out to clickbait thumbnails and expressing his political views. Like dude, I don't care about your political views, anybody is free to have their own opinions, but I don't want to hear it. I'm still subscribed to him, but I rarely watch him now unless the video is specifically a car review or anything mechanic related.
@thelonelywolf88
@thelonelywolf88 3 ай бұрын
@@alexs.818 I can't get away from all that political garbage, no matter where I go. I have zero interest in politics, and I don't hide it. Nevertheless, it always follows me
@frankcarnevale618
@frankcarnevale618 3 ай бұрын
Wow, wasn’t sure if I’d see a late Camry engine on your channel any time soon lol. I haven’t seen, or maybe you have tore down but I would have to look, 2.2 twin cam out of old GM compact sedans, late 90’s ford rangers engines, the GM 3.4 v6, I’m sure there are more, immortal engines out there, but I love watching your tear downs and especially the reliable engines.
@geneva760
@geneva760 3 ай бұрын
CHEERS from AUSTRALIA
@gregoryweber7408
@gregoryweber7408 3 ай бұрын
cool engine ya found eric thanks for snagging it and the teardown always interesting to watch
@nickma71
@nickma71 3 ай бұрын
It is called a counter shaft. Fun Toyota fact from decades ago....the 5S-FE had a counter shaft in the Camry, but not the Celica. And it was hard to tell the difference.
@timsouttahere
@timsouttahere 3 ай бұрын
Change your oil folks
@Techcensorshipbot
@Techcensorshipbot 3 ай бұрын
Change your folks oil
@chrisridebike8
@chrisridebike8 3 ай бұрын
How was this an oil issue? Hardly any varnish. The valvetrain looked clean and free of damage. The rod and main bearings showed no wear. All the bits the oil touched were fine. Looked like frequent oil changes with decent oil.
@timsouttahere
@timsouttahere 3 ай бұрын
@@chrisridebike8 I didn't say it was
@chrisridebike8
@chrisridebike8 3 ай бұрын
@@timsouttahere got it. Just figured it was related to this video is all.
@bobbyr8071
@bobbyr8071 3 ай бұрын
Or get an EV and be done with this ancient technology. By EV I mean Tesla
@davidgrisco1939
@davidgrisco1939 3 ай бұрын
Here's a suggestion for a future water pump removal scene...Eric removes all the bolts except for one. His female "assistant" pushes Eric out of way, removes the last bolt and runs the pump to the discard box with a slam dunk, saying, "gotcha!"
@TJsVette
@TJsVette 3 ай бұрын
The Car Care Nut enters the chat....
@Techcensorshipbot
@Techcensorshipbot 3 ай бұрын
I busted a car care nut once
@Parker53151
@Parker53151 3 ай бұрын
…and that’s okay.
@thomaswilson8634
@thomaswilson8634 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2012 camry fully loaded. Its just as clean as the day i got it. It just finished detail shop with ceramic done. I have 70k miles on it. The dealership are the only ones to ever touch it. Its only used when i go see my grandkids in atlanta. The 4 cylinder in it will absolutely surprise you. I bought it because of the engine. So far so good. Im hoping it will last at least 10 more years.
@4af
@4af 3 ай бұрын
tranny is bad on the 2012 4 cylinders
@Unit55SGT
@Unit55SGT 3 ай бұрын
My favorite Toyota engine makes an appearance!
@GregoryGlessnerViolin
@GregoryGlessnerViolin 3 ай бұрын
My favorites are the 1mz and the 2uz. I don't think Eric has done a 1mz on the channel yet.
@CaptainSpadaro
@CaptainSpadaro 3 ай бұрын
Topical video is topical; I've got a 2024 Camry as a rental while my car is at the body shop (beware Subarus driven by kids). Thing makes okay power for what it is and is surprisingly eager to wind out when floored. Only getting 28-30 mpg though but that might be because I sometimes drive like Ayrton Senna.
@geeniusatwrok
@geeniusatwrok 3 ай бұрын
Had a 2025 (!!!) Camry Hybrid rental last week and damn that thing would (briefly) light up the fronts when pressured. Which was often. I would never buy a used rental car based on the way I drive them. 90mph in reverse running late to the airport, every warning light blazing, "Yeah it's fine sure I filled it up no prob gotta jet."
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL 3 ай бұрын
My mind goes straight to that 928 you own.....
@thomasrbishop8736
@thomasrbishop8736 3 ай бұрын
Great video. I enjoy all of your videos
@fasillimerick7394
@fasillimerick7394 3 ай бұрын
REV UP YOUR ENGINES! R.I.P. Scotty. You will be missed, eventually.
@aland7236
@aland7236 3 ай бұрын
I'll never forget him, but I will try.
@peterwilding1203
@peterwilding1203 3 ай бұрын
I was kinda hoping you'd test that electric water pump with, y'know, a dose of three-phase. That sounds like an Eric thing to do!
@DanielRichards644
@DanielRichards644 3 ай бұрын
6 days since you got a Miata, Guess you where on your vacation all week then, LOL.
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