Alsace Lorraine was a Unique Territory in the German Empire

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@degon4129
@degon4129 12 күн бұрын
An important detail is that Lorraine in fact is a much bigger region and the part annexed by the German Empire whit Alsace is small part of it called Moselle
@sofiaormbustad7467
@sofiaormbustad7467 10 күн бұрын
Germany also did not annex all of Alsace. The fortress in Belfort had never surrendered to Germany in 1870-71. The area was also perceived as detremental for France to even survive as a great power, due to its vast iron ore. Thus France kept Belfort after the war and even administred it as the region of Alsace, despite its small size. After the war vast iron ores were also discovered at Briey/Longwy, parts of the part of Lorraine still under french control (66%). This made Longwy-Briey in Lorraine aswell as Belfort in Alsace the most crucial war goals for the german empire in the west during the first world war. Aswell as the country of Luxembourg (and parts of Belgium) which produced more coal and steel than the entirety of Italy did in most of the 20th century!
@Absinthis
@Absinthis 5 күн бұрын
It's the opposite. Alsace was the region annexed. Only the "Moselle" part of Lorraine was annexed.
@degon4129
@degon4129 5 күн бұрын
@Absinthis that what i said 🤨
@augth
@augth 12 күн бұрын
An important precision; Alsace-Lorraine was already an established industrial region with massive iron and textile production before it was annexed by Germany.
@baronbrummbar8691
@baronbrummbar8691 11 күн бұрын
i wouldn´t say massive the french economy was severely struggling which is why it went from monarchy to republic to monarchy to republic (+ a proto communist uprising) in just 22 years
@ddesmarais7251
@ddesmarais7251 11 күн бұрын
Alsace Loraine singlehandedly had a comparable textile industry to all of Germany. It wasn't a lack of domestic product that was ruining france. It was ineffective government and inefficient industry
@baronbrummbar8691
@baronbrummbar8691 11 күн бұрын
@@ddesmarais7251 germany didn´t had a textile industry at all Elsass, Belgium and England produced textiles Germany produced cloaths ... also doen´t forget that thanks to "Kleinstaaterei" germany industrialized later and surpassed france in every single aspect
@gabilax2745
@gabilax2745 11 күн бұрын
​@@baronbrummbar8691 Are you kidding ? Before 1871 France was experiencing an industrial boom thanks to the policies of Napoléon III. Germany destroyed it all by causing huge instability by dismantling the french empire, imposing big war reparations and stripping France from Alsace which was very important to the french early industrialisation
@baronbrummbar8691
@baronbrummbar8691 10 күн бұрын
@@gabilax2745 dude france was struggling thanks to stupid plans of Napoleon III like the beyound stupid invasion of Mexico also "hugh war reperations" france payed it of in 4 years while it was planed to take 5 years .... Frances Industrial revolution was was slower then the one of forexapmle Belgium and france had almost no heavy industry
@010Jordi
@010Jordi 9 күн бұрын
Alsace-lorraine was only conquered by France in the 17th century it was part of the hre
@Rmy26
@Rmy26 8 күн бұрын
Nah I think Lotharingia would be cooler 😎
@Cigmacica
@Cigmacica 7 күн бұрын
Alsace-Lorraine didn’t even exist as an entity before the german annexion, and the annexation of alsace and lorraine were a slow and long process (Like for example, lorraine was only annexed in 1766 after the death of duke Stanislas died)
@elendil6144
@elendil6144 7 күн бұрын
And so was Franche-Comté and Savoy, but i don't see you b and moaning about that.
@JuanManuel-ii1ov
@JuanManuel-ii1ov 5 күн бұрын
​@@elendil6144 Why do you want to see them moaning?
@chargus2574
@chargus2574 7 күн бұрын
I love the old oversimplified style the music is nostalgic ngl
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 6 күн бұрын
Thank you! :D
@A635n
@A635n 11 күн бұрын
It felt like a oversimplified video, tahts niice (The music, map etc)
@DarkshadowXD63
@DarkshadowXD63 8 күн бұрын
I had an opportunity to visit Metz and Strasbourg for a trip, and these cities are truly a blend of French and Imperial German architecture. It's truly an underated city for tourism. To any history nerds, I'd highly recommend taking a trip down to both cities. Verdun is also nearby, so you can see all 3
@Argacyan
@Argacyan 6 күн бұрын
I'm like randomly tripping over this comment, but if anything the architecture is the other way around: It's German architecture & imperial French. All of the older buildings in that place are German & the French architecture pops up around the era of French absolutism & romanticism after Napoleon.
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 6 күн бұрын
Very interesting!
@Daniel_Z35
@Daniel_Z35 11 күн бұрын
Damn, how do you not have more views. Great video, keep it up.
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 11 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@carljo002
@carljo002 10 күн бұрын
What I find particularly interesting is not Lorraine, because I'm aware that they share a culture with the rest of Lorraine. Rather I'm interested in what Alsace thought of this, since to my knowledge it has a distint culture to Lorraine and they also speak an alemannic dialect instead of a frankian one.
@Argacyan
@Argacyan 6 күн бұрын
Alsace has an Alemannic dialect, but Lorraine does also have a Franconian (not French! It's Germanic) dialect which used to be present majority in cities like Metz but has since been reduced to a village or two.
@AidentheApathetic
@AidentheApathetic 8 күн бұрын
Alsace-Lorraine looks like if Brazil lost some weight
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 6 күн бұрын
xD
@3chmidt
@3chmidt 9 күн бұрын
The Germanization, especially in a land so cultural diverse alone between Germans, was a mistake. But on the other hand, it was kinda ironic that after centuries of Francization across France and French annexation of that territory in the 17th century, the favour basically returned. Today the region culturally would be better off in Germany, with the Elsaß dialect nearly being distinct.
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 6 күн бұрын
I think that, if the world wars hadn't happened, Alsace-Lorraine likely would have been split between Germany and France.
@3chmidt
@3chmidt 6 күн бұрын
@swedish_countryball In my opinion that should have been the case after ww1 and should have been the only and only fair compromise next to war reparations to keep peace instead of unfairly punishing. There were negotiations between both sides after Napoleon, and compared to that it was simply unjust to put a one-sided dictation on Germany which didn't even occupy all of Europe.
@dreamcaster143
@dreamcaster143 6 күн бұрын
​@swedish_countryballthe point is that the frenchs big ego woulndt have allowed it. Although the people spoke german, France wanted a war to get it back.
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 13 күн бұрын
Hello, I just wanted to apologize for the long delay on the upload! Hope you enjoy the video! :D
@NicNacNooNic
@NicNacNooNic 11 күн бұрын
It was great! Though, as someone new to your channel I had a hard time hearing you sometimes and the subtitles are turned off
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 11 күн бұрын
​@NicNacNooNic Thank you so much for your feedback and for checking out my channel! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’m so sorry you had trouble hearing me sometimes, I’ll will work on improving the audio in future videos. 😊
@P.A.L.S.Offical
@P.A.L.S.Offical 11 күн бұрын
Very Well done video Great Work!
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 11 күн бұрын
Thank you, very much appreciate!
@NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov
@NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov 11 күн бұрын
This should have more views
@Thegloriousgermanempire
@Thegloriousgermanempire 6 күн бұрын
Den här videon är väldigt bra 👍
@masterbootrecord32
@masterbootrecord32 3 күн бұрын
One important thing to note is that after WW1 Elsass-Lothringen should have been independent with councils of workers and soldiers taking over the local governments in cities of Elsass and Lothringen, in what is known here as the "Révolution de Novembre". However the councils were too disorganized and were disolved by the french upon their arrival. As their right to be autonomous was ignored and the locals were discriminated by the french, the 20s and 30s were hard for Lothringers and Elsassichers, and it led to the creation of a lot of separatists movements in the two states, financed by Germany. Many of those were initially from the far-left but gradually shifted towards far-right and even fascism. At the beginning of WW2, some local politics signed the " Manifeste des trois épis" that asked the man with square mustache to annex Lothringen and Elsass.
@theendermans8090
@theendermans8090 10 күн бұрын
very very very good channel, you deserve more subs
@Skillcrafter_
@Skillcrafter_ 10 күн бұрын
Really good Video but one thing I can not agree. Elsas loran Was very similar with German culture the pastries the Architectur ect but still very good Video ( :
@dario9107
@dario9107 2 күн бұрын
South German culture. Many southern Germans still don't like the "Prussians" (everything north of Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg). The reason for this is that southern Germany has many more cultural ties with countries like Switzerland and especially Austria, which has an almost identical culture to Bavaria and owned many lands in what is now as Baden-Württemberg and Alsace (Vorderösterreich).
@BVKrealitycheck
@BVKrealitycheck 11 күн бұрын
rightful Luxembourgish clay ngl
@Cigmacica
@Cigmacica 7 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t mind luxembourgish salaries ngl
@classit8248
@classit8248 11 күн бұрын
underrated
@suloei9635
@suloei9635 11 күн бұрын
Elsass Frei !!!
@sahilhossian8212
@sahilhossian8212 10 күн бұрын
Lore of Alsace Lorraine was a Unique Territory in the German Empire momentum 100
@liamtanner337
@liamtanner337 11 күн бұрын
Alsace local speaking. Great video, although it's not Alsace-Lorraine, but rather Alsace-MOSELLE. Lorraine is a region than ecompasses 4 departments, namely : Meurthe-et-Moselle (54), Meuse (55), Moselle (57), and Vosges (88). Keep up the good videos !
@cadentrevino5746
@cadentrevino5746 11 күн бұрын
In amarica and maby other places we refer to it as alscase-Lorraine also if you look it the historical boarders of Lorraine then it takes up a large part of it
@oogagag
@oogagag 10 күн бұрын
@@cadentrevino5746 lorraine was not a thing historically it was split into various HRE entities before becoming enclaves in the French kingdom which expanded east, then unified and the modern region of Moselle and Lorraine formed they only took moselle not lorraine
@cadentrevino5746
@cadentrevino5746 10 күн бұрын
@@oogagag I'm pretty sure it was but your probly correct and I don't care enough to research but my first point of the US calling in alsace-lorraine is still correct
@Jopuz-x9w
@Jopuz-x9w 10 күн бұрын
​@@oogagagthere was the duchy of Lorraine back in the middle ages
@Rmy26
@Rmy26 8 күн бұрын
​@@Jopuz-x9w it was still around all the way to 1766 which only is 23 years before the revolution
@Tryumfd
@Tryumfd 13 күн бұрын
nice
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 13 күн бұрын
Thank you! :)
@MincoolAnimation
@MincoolAnimation 9 күн бұрын
Good documentary 🔥
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 9 күн бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@MowsumiNur
@MowsumiNur 12 күн бұрын
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@afisto6647
@afisto6647 4 күн бұрын
It is Alsace Moselle.
@tsiegy
@tsiegy 6 күн бұрын
ALSACE/ELSASS MENTIONED!!! WTF IS AUTONOMY AND SELF DETERMINATION?!?!?!
@TheoneanduniqueAubergine8622
@TheoneanduniqueAubergine8622 5 күн бұрын
Also i think that one of the best way to show how much alsace disliked German rule was how much the autonomist and pro french Alsace-Lorraine party dominated the region before 1890 only losing that grand majority when a lot of alsacians fled to France and a lot Germans moved to the big cities
@Holy-Tiramisu
@Holy-Tiramisu 10 күн бұрын
Germans : Alsace should be part of Germany because of self determination, they're germans not french ! Also how germans treated alsaciens :
@benisign
@benisign 9 күн бұрын
Because the French were so great.....
@Holy-Tiramisu
@Holy-Tiramisu 9 күн бұрын
@benisign not really. Wich especially makes Germany looks bad, because how the hell did they manage to make alsaciens prefer the french
@chef4025
@chef4025 9 күн бұрын
Awesome video but the music was a little too loud at the end. I couldn’t hear you
@swedish_countryball
@swedish_countryball 6 күн бұрын
Im so sorry! I will work on that!
@chef4025
@chef4025 6 күн бұрын
@ thank you master
@ivandinsmore6217
@ivandinsmore6217 4 күн бұрын
Alsace Lorraine should be given back to Germany.
@ralphpersonne1549
@ralphpersonne1549 4 күн бұрын
No
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