A comparison of Isopropyl Alcohol, Nail Polish Remover, Acetone and versus proper Flux cleaner. As always, subscribe to the channel for the latest updates, or check out snafu.ca/
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@mrboat5803 жыл бұрын
Notice that the plastic toothbrush, which held all of the solvents, is fine. The plastics used for the actual electrical parts is much more resistant. It has to have an adequate electrical insulation/heat factor, withstand acidic flux and the often, beyond duty heat resistance due to the soldering operation. Also the bottles that the household solvents are made of. They are extremely resistant to solvents as well. Acetone works for a lot of things. But for a simple cleaning operation like solder flux, you really don't need to leave anything soak. Acetone from hardware/paint store is cheaper than nail polish remover, as is denatured alcohol. Denatured alcohol mixed with water will take things like blood, and other stains out of (often plastic/pvc) carpet and other fabrics as well. For a simple solution you can reuse, try mixing denatured alcohol 50/50 with distilled water and add a few drops of a good, grease dissolving dish detergent. I keep this in a squeeze bottle and it works quite well.
@examplerkey9 ай бұрын
IPA removes/dissolves most flux and doesn't harm the plastic. Cellulose paint thinner thoroughly removes flux faster than IPA but will melt certain kink of soft plastic. Acetone removes flux at thinner strength level and will melt plastic if it's left too long. It's cheaper than IPA and thinner if you want to dip the whole mobo. Of all three, Acetone tends to leave some marks. Flux in low frequency applications is harmless but in high frequency, it's lethal.
@j.lietka94064 жыл бұрын
straight acetone might work, but i think some techs that used it to clean PCBs noted it tended to wash off the ink printing/marks on the board. using those chemicals with bare hands tends to dry the skin on ones hands, fingers. also, some good ventilation helps. thanks for a great comparison
@Technical_Audio4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. My bottle of MG cleaner, the same product as yours, says that the ingredients are ethanol, isopropyl and ethyl acetate. MG makes a “heavy duty” version that adds acetone. I would use that only for special cases where dissolving plastics is not a concern. One technique I use to save money on the professional remover is to first place the PCB in a shallow tray and pour just enough isopropyl alcohol (91% is good enough) to cover the top side of the board. Typically less than 1/4” of isopropyl is required. Let the board soak for a while to loosen the flux deposits. Use a toothbrush as you suggest near the end of the soak period. Then remove the board and finish the cleaning with a professional remover solution like the MG to wash away any remaining residue. The pre-soak in the relatively cheap isopropyl does most of the work, and you’ll need less of the expensive cleaner that way. Also, you can use the tray with isopropyl for multiple boards even if the isopropyl gets a bit dirty, because you will wash the PCBs clean with the professional remover anyway.
@shinningraj4 жыл бұрын
Will the code marked in paint in resistor safe to soak in isopropyl alcohol for long?
@TunerNerd4 жыл бұрын
1 Part WD-40, 15 parts acetone. The Acetone cuts the flux and the WD-40 makes it difficult for it to re-stick to the PCB. You only need a small amount of WD-40 to prevent the flux from sticking. The Acetone will evaporate faster than the Wd-40, so you should work fast. You're welcome.
@Blinkerd00d5 ай бұрын
But wd40 has acetone in it already, right?
@vat836710 күн бұрын
@@Blinkerd00d wd 40 is lighter fuel
@jaro69855 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. Cutex non-acetone "with coconut oil" would be what caused the greasy texture. It could prevent corrosion, but downside is it has high conductivity. MEK is in there too which dissolved the plastic, its probably nastier than the pure acetone stuff in terms of health risks.
@candidcamel10 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this comparison video.
@Retrograde993 жыл бұрын
Tank you so much this really helps me I bought isopropyl alcohol for generally cleaning my fpv drone components and it works great for flux removal too! I see that as a big bonus I bought 1L so I’m happy I bought it
@mikaelah08 Жыл бұрын
I worked in a PCB ASSEMBLY 20 years ago, I remember using toothbrush and dipping it in the cleaner and brushed off the flux residue until it completely removed, NOT dipping the PCB BOARD... As I can remember it was alcohol...
@shader263 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. A couple of things bothered me though. One is we often have to remove flux after soldering components to the board, not just bare boards. Residue may be there and may not be seen or on other sites I’ve seen evidence that the alcohol does leave residue that can somewhat bridge and make current leaks over time, even as far as a short at some later date. Also have seen tips of using a toothbrush, wetting it, and flicking it so you only are applying the absolute minimum needed to clean off the flux residue, which makes more sense to me than soaking a board.
@shinningraj4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I was eagerly waiting for this input. Thank you for testing on plastic too...
@curbdawg3818 Жыл бұрын
I would highly recommend using gloves with the 99% IPA (probably all of the others, too) if you do a lot of cleaning. It will damage the skin on your fingers and it is not easy to get them healed back up.
@gettingpast43914 жыл бұрын
I use straight acetone and it works fast, but you have to be careful of plastics. I wouldn't soak a board in it.
@khaleddhr62384 жыл бұрын
Hi,Could i use these for clean micro usb port pins from water or clean ic from water?
@csar29764 жыл бұрын
I would go broke paying $16 for flux cleaner. **toothbrush ** 99% alcohol -spray bottle... scrub thoroughly then ** windex -spray bottle scrub some more...spray alcohol again, and scrub... finally **water - spray bottle you can let it air dry, spray dry, or wipe dry. Has always worked for me, cleaning vintage stereo boards that have had flux on for decades.
@JohnPham20155 жыл бұрын
How is acetone on electrolytic capacitor plastic skin shell?
@bobcatt22945 жыл бұрын
I believe the non acetone cleaner has oil in it as to be easy on the nail bed.
@obfuscated30902 жыл бұрын
Solvent resistant "printer swabs" are cheap in bulk and amazingly handy around the shop.
@3nertia Жыл бұрын
Sorry if I missed it but may I know which flux you were using beforehand?
@infected72582 жыл бұрын
Here’s the best flux cleaner, Isopropyl Alcohol, it also works to sanitize wounds and can be used as fuel
@shaneintegra5 жыл бұрын
The nail polish remover said it has coconut oil in it. That's why it had a grease like film on it
@panglaotravel3854 жыл бұрын
Not coconut oil
@shaneintegra4 жыл бұрын
@@panglaotravel385 it says "with coconut oil" I think it's safe to say it has coconut oil in it
@chasemartin44503 ай бұрын
99% isopropyl alcohol in an ultrasonic cleaner (or scrubbed with a brush / Q tip) always works well for me.
@cdyoutoob4 жыл бұрын
Using the same brush doesn't make for a good test. There are different types of flux and some items will clean some fluxes better than others. There are washing agent that boards can soak in for 10-30 minutes too that you could of tested. The residue is common with 95%+ pure IPA with a lot of fluxes. Generally I find that the whiteness is a sign there is still flux present. All IPA adsorbs(?) water so reduces its pureness, so keep the lid on. It may be water in the IPA that is the cause of the white powder left behind.
@tookitogo3 жыл бұрын
The white powder is the non-alcohol-soluble activators from modern fluxes. It's actually water soluble, so for those, 91% alcohol would actually work better. But flux remover is better still.
@3DJapan2 жыл бұрын
Why is the expensive one the winner if it does the same thing?
@AnoNymous-dh2sv4 жыл бұрын
Little point of a close-up "After" without a before.
@hoggif4 жыл бұрын
IPA is cheap and works with most fluxes. Depending on flux, it mahy need differenct solvents. Some are even water cleanable. I use IPA and denaturated alcohol mostly. I guess the non-acetone nail polish remover is something like butyl acetate. It can be bad for some plastics like acetone. Actually even alcohol or IPA can be bad for some plastics if very long time used like hours of soaking. The amount of effect depends a lot on what exact plastic is being tested.
@InssiAjaton4 жыл бұрын
A little addition from years of experience mostly with isopropyl alcohol "IPA". And the fresh vs aged flux. At first though a note that there are a number of DIFFERENT fluxes in use and I have not distinguished them in any way. Then to my findings. Some of the commercial flux removers are effective even on partly aged flux (but evaporate too fast), while IPA really works reasonably well only on fresh flux. However, I have good experiences with IPA working OK when a board with several years old flux is immersed in IPA in a plastic bag for 2 or 3 hours. At the end of the soaking, the bag gets a good shaking. The IPA gets discolored. Then the board is removed from the bag and is brushed witch clean IPA. In worst case, a final spray of commercial flux remover now works fine on the already softened flux. But my brushing experience is that I always am better off, if I brush in multiple directions.
@TECHnoman7533 жыл бұрын
Tyvm 4 the tips I actually just finished some work on my racing drone and isp works 4 the most part
@TECHnoman7533 жыл бұрын
What % IPA do u use?
@InssiAjaton3 жыл бұрын
@@TECHnoman753 91%
@kliklakberlin3 жыл бұрын
In short: Isopropyl Alcohol does the job. Commercial Flux cleaner means less work, but at 4x the price. Use a soft toothbrush.
@jeffm27875 жыл бұрын
Always had good luck with 10 parts Isopropyl (99% or better), 10 parts acetone and about 1 part Xylene. So around 5% xylene or less. The Xylene just leaves it with that nice clean look and so far I've not had any issues with plastics. No guarantees of course.
@therealb8884 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting solution, I'll try it out. It doesn't leave any white residue right?
@cpopte3 жыл бұрын
I use xylene to clean my bike chain before waxing. Please be aware that xylene (tholuene) it's HIGHLY TOXIC !!
@bobcatt22945 жыл бұрын
Just excellent. Thumbs up.
@arpankumar90665 жыл бұрын
How to remove white recidio on tha PCBA? ?? Please give me 1 video ☝that topic. ..
@tookitogo3 жыл бұрын
Use flux remover instead of alcohol.
@FIXDIY4 жыл бұрын
Good work i want more
@francoisleveille4093 жыл бұрын
MG Chemicals recommend you use a hog hair brush cat. #852 with flux remover. It will last a hundred times longer than a toothbrush and won't harm the surface of plastics and electronics.
@Blinkerd00d5 ай бұрын
Where do they find cats with hog hair to make the brushes from?
@francoisleveille4095 ай бұрын
@rd00d At the same place as you'll find unicorns. In this specific instance "cat." stands for CATALOG as opposed to "small feline that likes to be petted". Add a few neurons and you'll figure it out.
@Blinkerd00d5 ай бұрын
@@francoisleveille409 I knew lol I was just being stupid. I usually use those brushes you get like in a gun cleaning kit with the black (nylon maybe?) bristles. I'll look into those hog hair brushes tho.
@francoisleveille4095 ай бұрын
@@Blinkerd00d Keeping your sanity requires being stupid a few times a year. Just make sure you don't damage your electronics when it happens as you could lose money and the sum of your precious work.
@Blinkerd00d5 ай бұрын
@@francoisleveille409 oh no- I take my circuits very seriously. I love what I do. I love the smell of solder in the morning lol
@casper6322 жыл бұрын
Denatured Alcohol works the best, It is quick acting and also evaporates faster.
@africantwin1733 жыл бұрын
So, what do i use for removing rosin from boards. Standard alcohol wont work.
@tookitogo3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it does. Rosin is highly soluble in alcohol (both isopropyl and ethyl), which is why isopropyl is the traditional cleaner for it. But modern fluxes are often hard to clean in just alcohol. Commercial flux remover is much, much better.
@africantwin1733 жыл бұрын
@@tookitogo ok thanks
@svenpetersen19654 жыл бұрын
There are quite cheap anti-static brushes on AliExpress, Banggood or ebay. I prefer those, since they do not harm electronics. Electro static discharge can do nasty things to semiconductors. A normal toothbrush can cause that.
@GenePavlovsky4 жыл бұрын
Can a wet toothbrush cause ESD?
@svenpetersen19654 жыл бұрын
Gene Pavlovsky Why risk it? Those ESD brushes are not much more expensive than a tooth brush. And a wet tooth brush is probably only wet on one end. I have got a very nice selection of ESD brushes in different sized for little money.
@GenePavlovsky4 жыл бұрын
@@svenpetersen1965 I'll probably follow your advice and get some, but suspect they will arrive 1-2 months later. Until then a regular one would have to do. Thanks
@svenpetersen19654 жыл бұрын
@@GenePavlovsky It is always good to go the step to a real ESD protection. For assembly houses, ESD is a big deal, because it can cause really nasty problems - a slightly delayed early death of a circuit or different properties is worse than an immediate death. And to get a hobby lab ESD protected is not really hard.
@GenePavlovsky4 жыл бұрын
@@svenpetersen1965 Can you please recommend some reading / give an overview regarding hobby lab ESD protection?
@kapilmeetsingh37023 жыл бұрын
Very good keep it up bro 👍
@bobcatt22945 жыл бұрын
Does the non acetone cleaner smell like alcohol?
@adlanehichembriki2203 жыл бұрын
No
@deerhunter85332 жыл бұрын
That brush has seen better days
@nadpul4 жыл бұрын
Would suggest you wear gloves...
@jamesedinger49564 жыл бұрын
Yes...use gloves with products designed to be rubbed on your fingers...hehe
@stevenyamada704 жыл бұрын
Yes make sure you wear gloves just like most woman do when they remove their nail polish from their........oh wait, you mean it can touch your skin and you won't die?
@GenePavlovsky4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenyamada70 When women, children, men or any others remove nail polish from their *nails*, they usually apply it on a cotton disc and wipe just the nails. Some actually wear a glove on the hand that holds the disc. Acetone is a pretty harsh solvent and it is quite wise to use gloves (if you're not using it remove nail polish, you can wear them on both hands). I think most of the nail polish removers switched to other, less harsh solvents, for this particular reasons.
@thebeerinnandrewmckenna2655 Жыл бұрын
I dont think you used enough of each chemical, or brushed everywhere
@Bugsworth21 күн бұрын
Thanks for that but im going to try water!
@arpankumar90665 жыл бұрын
Nice
@3DJapan2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of using anything besides IPA.
@tonytrilex25553 жыл бұрын
iv'e been told to use denatured alcohol
@kac35144 жыл бұрын
I use nail polish remover
@irgski3 жыл бұрын
I’d recommend u use gloves...esp with the acetone based products.
@ericschulze5641 Жыл бұрын
You probably wear gloves to open a box of gloves
@BillyG8693 жыл бұрын
I’d stay away from Acetone...Alcohol is best overall, Non-Acetone Nail polish Remover is good alternate, expensive when to look at costs. The greasy is Peanut Oil? Unless you steal it from your girlfriend? That expensive stuff is alcohol and maybe some detergent? Waste your money ?? I’ve been a guy who started out bringing home old radios and TVs from the trash can in my alley. Cutting out capacitors, resistors, scavenging parts to build my own experiments. At 74 I’m still building things. Thats well over 60 years of soldering....Try Brakeclean, available at most discount auto parts houses, works great. CHEAP...Cheap...Cheap. Or Electronics Parts Cleaner from Electrical/Electronic supply houses, expensive but less than that other stuff..I say Good Clean Isopropyl Alcohol is the right stuff. More important, focus on good soldering practices to start with,,
@TECHnoman7533 жыл бұрын
Nice lol you sound like older me XD Thanks 4 the info
@chasebradshaw93143 жыл бұрын
Acetone comes in a plastic bottle the plastic bottle.sure is tuff stuff
@osamaa18913 жыл бұрын
I think its a fake comparison. He is using the same picture of board over and over again .. Look at 07:33 and 09:24 , both pics are exactly the same even amount of residue left is same and exactly at same positions in both pics.
@kareno86342 жыл бұрын
Are YOU Kidding me, WHAT is there to See? NO Before, so after doesn't matter.
@daroritraders4 жыл бұрын
wish i can see who 4 person dislike it ....
@unionse7en11 ай бұрын
conclusion: @13:13
@mandh14 Жыл бұрын
Zippo lighter fluid
@johnvine57313 жыл бұрын
You need to wear gloves. Shakes head.
@konradschaubert552024 күн бұрын
very unprofessional to not use gloves. bad practice and bad guide.
@Bugsworth21 күн бұрын
Gloves? For nail varnish remover? Hahaha!?!?
@konradschaubert552021 күн бұрын
@@Bugsworth No. But for the other 3 toxic chemicals.