Alternative to button mashing in WoW (Increase your DPS)

[@Kruzics]

DISCLAIMER: First of all I heard from the comments that some people got banned for using this, I never did though after using it for a year and a half but still use it at your own risk Secondly, after conversing with some smart people from the comments and my guild I realized that I was working with outdated information and that casting now works with spell queue-ing, meaning you can ignore the section with pressing the button at the exact time. I stand with it saving you from carpal tunnel and arthritis though and I still think it's incredibly useful in that regard. I'm sorry for not checking my facts on time and I promise I'll fact check everything I put out with smarter players than me in the future. Also Gergin Ivanov added this script which works with multiple buttons, (I'm sorry Gergin but I need to pin this comment) ~1::Hold_Down("1") ~2::Hold_Down("2") ~3::Hold_Down("3") ~4::Hold_Down("4") ~5::Hold_Down("5") ~e::Hold_Down("e") Hold_Down(key) { loop { GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T if (ScrollLockState = "U") { break } else { send %key% Sleep, 10 GetKeyState, state, %key%, P if state = U ; break } } return } Sorry for that and I wish you all the luck in the World... of Warcraft

[@1996adis]

I am really curious to see the updated version of this script if you can get your hands on it :D

[@gamerstellar]

i don't think it's detectable because it's not PQR script that send commands directly to the server. this is a normal AHK script that alter / send commands to the keyboards to behave different way. so anyhow you are governed by GCD and can't send for example 1000 fireball in 1 second server detect only 1 cast after GCD. safe

[@calebfairchild8745]

Thanks for this, but is there a way to change it from being scroll lock? I use a half keyboard that's built for MMO gaming that doesn't have it Edit: Nevermind you can remap it in autohotkey , for example if you want 6 to be Scroll lock at the bottom of this script put 6::ScrollLock

[@calebfairchild8745]

Here's my slightly modified (left hand only) version for Boomkin and sufferers of arthritis like me: works perfect. (just rebind a few hotkeys to q, and v) and changes scroll lock to 6 ~1::Hold_Down("1") ~2::Hold_Down("2") ~3::Hold_Down("3") ~4::Hold_Down("4") ~5::Hold_Down("5") ~e::Hold_Down("e") ~q::Hold_Down("q") ~v::Hold_Down("v") Hold_Down(key) { loop { GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T if (ScrollLockState = "U") { break } else { send %key% Sleep, 10 GetKeyState, state, %key%, P if state = U ; break } } return } 6::ScrollLock

[@1996adis]

​@@calebfairchild8745 Great input on the topic. I actually just pasted the buttons that I needed for my shadow priest so that's why only a few keys were bound.

[@Cisco6x]

Krip is the goat I remember learning so much from him in wotlk

[@LilItaly]

That picture of the hand got me paranoid brother

[@1996adis]

Great video Gnev! I modified the script a bit so it's easier to make keys for all your buttons so I advice just making a separate file for each char. Here I have used the key from 1 to 5 and the button 'e' so you can have an example how to configure it to your liking. Please pin this so more people can see it and copy it from this comment directly :) ~1::Hold_Down("1") ~2::Hold_Down("2") ~3::Hold_Down("3") ~4::Hold_Down("4") ~5::Hold_Down("5") ~e::Hold_Down("e") Hold_Down(key) { loop { GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T if (ScrollLockState = "U") { break } else { send %key% Sleep, 10 GetKeyState, state, %key%, P if state = U ; break } } return }

[@Kruzics]

Wow, I really appreciate the effort and coding knowledge man, thank you

[@ballin4580]

Gay

[@somato2688]

doesnt work for some reason. i am holding down 3 key but the spell only goes off once

[@Kruzics]

@@somato2688 I made a tutorial on how to install it and put in the description, try checking it out

[@1996adis]

@@somato2688 Did you turn on the script from its executable file and then press "Scroll lock" to make it actually take effect? I have been using the code I shared here for the past 2 days and it works fine

[@Nilllan]

I Dont even play wrath But i still love watching your videos. Really entertaining man!

[@Dragonsnake40]

I can already see the unlocked mousewheel druids typing...

[@_Potaro]

You really make understand many things with this video. Thanks

[@fixheko]

Top 1 on Skada from now on yessssirski

[@magyararon6918]

I use it, definitely better on the fingers in a long raid. Also funny sometimes you can see others want to type some number, and instead of writing 30 they write 33333330 for example, which makes it obvious they use this too. :D

[@TiltedMarc]

"You can have the fastest fingers and the best fingering technique in the World, but u´ll always make mistakes" You sound an aweful lot like my ex gf

[@_sSs_Andreii]

"best fingering technique" .. yeah right Gnev :))) Good job mate

[@shmeater]

kripp in thumbnail Pog

[@Guanjyn]

I tried doing this on Classic a year ago using my mouse software and it disconnected me within seconds of holding the button down lol.

[@relog]

I don't understand i paste the thing in ahk and run it but it doesnt work, am i doing something wrong

[@nonye0]

failed.

[@mojotmn]

This doesn't work for classic wow cause server basically receives the packets when you are spamming cast so it kinda cache the action you are spamming. this might be working for private servers tho.

[@dariominiello9934]

Right now this is only useful for extremely high haste situation, as spell que window exists lol, however it is a good alternative to the mousewheel technique

[@gaburierusan8179]

I discovered you can make one button rotation macro Mop macros evn on Wotlk

[@Terrgore]

Here I was thinking the secret technique is clicking :)) Now from my knowledge of retail TOS(which is limited because nobody reads all that legal blable) this could go two ways. Either it's considered like a cast sequence macro like spamming arcane blast 100 times, which makes it 100% legal and thus there are no worries with it. Or it's a tool assisted thingy like multiboxing. Multiboxing by itself isn't against the rules, but the use of a third party software that mimics human input is. Seeing how this technique is 9 years old and it still works on retail I am inclined to believe it's the first one. I might try this out on a trial boomy.

[@Kruzics]

I think it's very easy to detect as nobody could be doing that many inputs in such a short time and I haven't gotten in trouble for it even after using it for a year and a half, I don't think you should be worried :D

[@maximehoffart7228]

@@Kruzics I'm gonna use this in TBC Classic against the advice of my angsty raid leader i'll update here if i get banned, those shadowbolts are litterally gonna cast themselves lol

[@relog]

@@maximehoffart7228 so what happened, did u get ban

[@sbonel3224]

Hey man. Did you get banned on classic/retail? I am thinking of using this, not because of the dps increase, but mostly because my hand/fingers hurt after a long raid session. Also do you think it would help with getting undetected by increasing the sleep duration to more than 10ms? So it looks more human like, maybe even add a random factor into it so the keystrokes aren't always at the same time.

[@Kruzics]

Never got banned for it my dude and I kept using it after the vid both on retail and Warmane

[@sbonel3224]

@@Kruzics ok ty

[@TheStefanOyx]

Mogu ti nadjem rusa ili kineza sa ti napiše skriptu, pa ko čoveg da igraš ako ćeš tom logikom, "ipak čovek nikada ne bi mogao toliko dobro kao proračuna skripta"

[@jksb4172]

Hello Gnev, when I press double click the Script says: Error at line 7. Line Tex: Error: This line does not contain a recognized action. The program will exit. Any help to make it works?.

[@youssefennajdaoui8650]

Please how can i add Alt ctr and shift + any other button Like in keybind i have ctrl+a so in hoy key it not work Only a work Help me please

[@VAS.T]

the script does not work for me

[@shoc2177]

i was thinking about doing this but for each keybind man... too much work XD

[@flpsnk4848]

Anyone knows how to safely add to the script LShift+something keybind? Just binding LShift does not work, interface goes crazy. Edit: "+r" (+ being the shift modifier) does work but the script is spamming it indefinetely then. Edit2: temporarily solved it by making second "Shift" script where is additional line: GetKeyState, state, Shift, P if state = U ; break Not ideal since Im pressing both single button (R) and Shift+R (shift somehow makes the priority) and I need to repress both Shift+R - only pressing Shift does not change the spell.

[@Willowplesure]

i use that in diablo3 for left and right mousebutton click on my mousebuttons4+5 for years now, to just hold it down. i never considered using it for wow aswell even tho i played retail for over 10y and now playing casually warmane since a few months again aswell lol. 5Head

[@Zhot93]

Sadly I can't get used to it because it's not allowed by Blizzards' rules so I won't be able to use it in Classic

[@urosh222]

Хвала Гневе (наопачке)

[@danielandrews3878]

Honestly if you need that to play the game while watching youtube...you could just stop playing and watch someone playing it, is the same.

[@gregthomson2299]

No, it isn’t.

[@Herr_Brechmann]

Cope harder low skill @@gregthomson2299

[@TheStefanOyx]

Hahahahaha izvini ali brt Mage igraš... imaš jedno dugme pa si i njega si macrovao lenčugo! 😂

[@Parodiarz]

Gnev everyone! Hi here.

[@alderyuge]

You can get banned on retail for autohotkey, souce from official forums

[@randomguider6555]

so...is this macro for ranged dps only? tbh i don't see how i can use this as a ret or warrior, given that unlike fireball or shadowbolt i have a cd, i personally have used snowfall press key since forever, it automatically casts a spell upon pressing, however i am limited by my reflex to how fast a certain cooldown is reset

[@Kruzics]

Ye, works great on ret and warr, my fingers don't hurt as much after all the cleaving.

[@orzart]

Hello my bratans, just wanted to give heads up that i was banned for using autohotkey in retail before, more shady stuff but still

[@sarimshanty8102]

pog

[@derekhamouna9557]

I have purchased an Arduino Leonardo for 10 eur. It is a microcontroller that acts as an USB keyboard. You can program all the scripts and macro sequences and it is completely safe. But purist could see it as not ok. You know 1 click, 1 action... but I would than question some of the wow addons/plugins.

[@gregthomson2299]

Purists enjoy having moral outrage about anything. It gives them a reason to justify (usually to themselves) why their dps is so bad. They also seem fine with fotm WA strings etc, which is automation as well. Let them whine from the bench. 👍

[@Cropinky]

why of all classes to test dps on dummy you choose boomkin which has haste proc xdd

[@Deadpooln2b]

100% effective and should be used, but I still prefer the old school method. To be honest I don't like using addons other than healbot to see raid HP and DBM. Rawdog all the way, pressing buttons, manually targeting, makes me feel more pride in my work rather than having slightly bigger numbers

[@Kruzics]

I get your point man but after years of playing 12-14 hours a day I think my hands would be fucked up by now, like that scene where Cartman rubs cream when he cramps up in their WoW episode :D

[@Deadpooln2b]

@@Kruzics carpal tunnel, its bad xD

[@MissConceptGuild]

the fact you call healbot an addon makes this comment even funnier that it actually is, no offense dude.

[@gregthomson2299]

I got to agree with you. Did you watch the SotFO race to world 1st? People need to look at the weak auras there before (as I have seen in some comments) calling this guy some nasty shit for not wanting to spam the same button over and over. Blizzard need to look at, melee dps especially, combat apl’s. The whole thing constantly had in screen, sound and dynamic sequence scripts (on jailer, which hole for people to drop in so no one goes to the same place). And pre nerf, the time to progress just jailer, without these addons, would have been weeks, all day, ever day. Blizzard went to far I think. The boss needs to give queue or even just a DBM timer, should be enough. A good example would be the twin emperors fight in MoP, if you played melee in that fight, there was a 3 part dodge you could do, if you done it correctly you hit for (1million damage I seem to remember, which wasn’t as big as it sounds- Dps was maybe 1-2 hundred k). That was skill based, no addons, rewarded for doing mechanic correctly. It’s something blizzard didn’t do a lot more of, little bits here and there. It would be a good little addition to the game and long Dps phases, I played fury warrior at right up untill SoO farm. My hand was to sore to play it next xpac! 🤣✌️

[@lowand3557]

I want to try but i was wondering is it legal in warmane ?

[@Kruzics]

I can't say if it's legal or not, all I know is I never had trouble with them and I've been using it for 1.5 years

[@Heldentaten]

This video was recommended to me by the algorithm, so I did not notice that you mainly play WOTLK private servers. However, you mentioned Retail WoW in the video, so I will leave my comment as a disclaimer for any players on Live Servers: On Live, this method is simply not needed and should not net you any DPS gains. While Kripp's original video from many years ago might have been valid, Blizz technology changed over the years. Today Live Servers use a "Spell Queue Window" which is set to 400ms in its default state. This means, if you hit an ability within a 400ms window before your current cast or GCD finishes, the ability will be queued and started automatically once your current cast or GCD is finished. Therefore, you do not need to spam your button or hit it at the exact moment - you just need to press it once within a 400ms window.

[@Kruzics]

I checked it on Warmane too and it seems that they added it here too and that I was truly working with outdated information, thanks Helda for pointing it out, I'll add a disclaimer!

[@adampriscak7146]

@@Kruzics Hello Gnev. Spell queue has always been implemented in wotlk on any server. If warmane didn't have it in some point it might have been an exception. The problem is that during gcd your spells aren't clickable. So for example if you're using wrath you can't possibly que it up if it's cast time is below 1 s. On the other hand with starfire you're not losing any dps whether you are using this technique or not. Spell queue becomes a setting in cataclysm meaning that players can set how long before the end of the cast they want to be able to que their next cast and that is important because the faster you can react the better dps you'll have. It happens to me that i managed to click the wrath button because i noticed solar procing but starfire is already queued and i couldn't rewrite that que. Shorter time on the que solves that. In wotlk the spell que simply didn't become a setting for players to adjust. But it is there anyway.

[@xdxxd621]

this is against blizzard ToS. have fun on private servers with it tho... also, considering there is spellqueueing, it's not as necessary anymore

[@CleaveGFX]

Is this applicable in pvp, lets say melee dps?

[@Kruzics]

Yup, I love it on melee's as well

[@domin552]

Is this useful on melee classes like dk or pala?

[@Kruzics]

Ye broski, I don't know how I could live without it on my warr for example

[@cebolenkosingcobo5122]

@@Kruzics is this allowed on warmane?

[@Kruzics]

@@cebolenkosingcobo5122 I know plenty of people who use and I didn't hear of anyone having any trouble with it

[@sorensawesomevideos6414]

@@Kruzics you use this for war? for BT?

[@alec5845]

stop giving away the secrets! XD

[@eldengard23]

you know that was/is banable right?

[@Kruzics]

This is their statement: "Any use of 3rd party software may get you suspended." I've used it for 1 and a half year and never got banned for it, but if I get banned in future for posting this I'm ready to take one for the team

[@1ButtonDash]

how does a rogue use this thou? cuz you need to be smart about your combo points

[@Kruzics]

It works better for some classes than for others but it should work great with a rogue as well

[@10NobodyElse]

It's called a gcd, if you can't react within 1.5 seconds, then I have news for you..

[@1ButtonDash]

@@10NobodyElse it has nothing about reaction time, I don't think u know how combo points operate

[@skedaddelr]

Rogue doesn't need this because outside of adrenaline rush you never need to spam your abilities.

[@luboss0008]

bad habit that doesn't help you play better game and good luck in pvp

[@duckboy6866]

How do you still play this game

[@gregthomson2299]

You can pay a monthly, 6 monthly or rolling subscription. You can also buy “game time” with in game gold. Goggle “how to play World of Warcraft”. There are also KZbin guides on how to install the game. Hope this helps. 👍

[@fjury297]

It is for casters only?

[@Kruzics]

nop, works great for all deeps

[@adampriscak7146]

I think everybody who uses instants or cast time below global cooldown will benefit from this. So melees too.

[@AsuriTV]

Quick FYI, it's banable on Warmane Source, me and multiple of my friends were previously banned for it

[@skedaddelr]

Depends on how you use it. Using it exclusively to spam your key while you're holding it down to cast your own spells as is shown in the video is fine. On the other hand using it to spam something like interact with target keybind function on a specific npc could definitely get you banned. Warmane deals with it on a case by case basis and as long as you don't misuse it you shouldn't get banned.

[@MadLemon]

Your profile pic is shadow dance, which says a lot. You get banned if you use ANY scripts in PVP. You get banned for automation, like setting conditions (cast a, cast b if boss casts , cast a) You get banned if you use it in admin events. You get banned if it autocasts without your input (essentially botting) I know a shitton of people using the exact script including myself and never got banned. I also know a few who used it in PvP automating conditions and got reported and banned or used it as anti-afk and got banned. There is nothing stopping you from getting a keyboard which has that shit built in (like some famous Logitech, extensively used on retaik back in the good ol days) and never get banned, if you are not an idiot. I will never smash keys after playing guitar for 3-4h.. Fuck that.

[@AsuriTV]

@@skedaddelr It counts as a "standard ban" not a ban for cheating. Content is irrelevant, since what they are banning you for is automation of repeated keystrokes (which is exactly what this precise script does).

[@AsuriTV]

@@MadLemon I literally PM'd a member of their staff asking for the specifics regarding the then active ban, given how i've never cheated in WoW and my accounts standing and w instant permanent ban I knew they had messed something up. What had happen is that I (at the time of the report), used AHK - which was considered "cheating" although it's a grey-zone type of subject. It's not a permanent ban, and it was lifted to a 30d temporary ban after I corrected them and admitted to previously using AHK. Don't jump into any conclusions from a class icon..?

[@Herr_Brechmann]

Deserved bozo. Get good or play a different game.

[@AleksaBleja]

🤢🤢🔥🔥

[@kredoril1279]

Pozdrav najjaci guild masteru

[@AleksaBleja]

@@kredoril1279 Pozz za najjačeg DK Tanka!

[@kredoril1279]

@@AleksaBleja masivan rispekt gospodine

[@Herr_Brechmann]

if you need this to time your class casts you should uninstall. If you use this outside of raid for pvp you are straight cheating.

[@VAS.T]

go cry, little kid. you mad that now people can spam stuff? its unfair and yes i love it. 10ms reaction time GGEZ

[@o0TraceuR0o]

Then you really shouldn't play dps. You take the blue pill you stay in wonderland you take the red pill and you realize you can easily top dps without this

[@o0TraceuR0o]

@@calebfairchild8745 thats fringe, the dude was talking about normal people not some bell curve extremity cases

[@cirese22]

It s like cheathing , private servers or retail should make and anticheat method against it . Reason : because not everyone know about it and is unfair for that players !

[@Kruzics]

Is using a car to go to work instead of walking there cheating? I don't think it's such a big dps increase that it's that meaningful, it just makes the game more enjoyable to play for me

[@cirese22]

@@Kruzics The comparation isn t that good but since a lot of people don t know about it is a way to cheat .

[@Kruzics]

@@cirese22 True, I think you'd be surprised at just how many people know of this but just don't talk of it, isn't making a video on it a good thing then?

[@cirese22]

@@Kruzics Is good helping people to know .