ALTERNATIVE WATER SOFTENER TESTED AND REVIEWED || Yarna CWD48 Electronic Water Descaler HOW IT WORKS

Do you have hard water in your home? Are you looking for an alternative to a water softener? We may have the answer for you. We tested the new Yarna CWD48 Electronic Water Descaler for two months and compared Yarna treated water to untreated water. Check it out to see if this technology works and might be a good fit for your home.
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ALTERNATIVE WATER SOFTENER TESTED AND REVIEWED || Yarna CWD48 Electronic Water Descaler HOW IT WORKS

[@thomaslawrence3232]

Love the science lesson.

[@HandzforHire]

Thanks!

[@martinavalos1381]

How much is the average price for an install of the Yarna.

[@arlo957]

“But that’s subjective” - that actually makes this vid super legit to admit that

[@HandzforHire]

Thanks!

[@joshuacarter7729]

Thought I was watching a channel with over a million subs, great job! Your channel is VERY underrated!

[@HandzforHire]

Wow, thank you! That means a lot. Some day we'll get to a million subs! (haha)

[@KJGould]

Pop Pop had me going with the electric bill gag to begin with 😂

[@HandzforHire]

Hahaha, Pop Pop is such a jokester. Have a great day!

[@dgtv71]

That was a good job explaining and demonstrating. Thank you very much.

[@HandzforHire]

My pleasure! Have a good one!

[@copisetic1104]

I installed a yarna a couple of months ago, i cleaned the shower heads with vinegar until shiny again. It took a month or so to get working, but haven’t had to clean scale off for over a month. I usually have to clean every couple of weeks.

[@HandzforHire]

That's really good feedback! Please keep us posted with an honest review.

[@Jeo-What]

Almost twenty years ago we moved from a lake water area to a town that uses town wheal water that has hard water. Unaware of its effect and the need of water softener in the area after first year our dishwasher completely clogged up and broken down while the pipes began to clog up with scale build up all over the kitchen, washrooms toilets and faucets. I did some research regarding water softener and ended up using a electronic water descaler. The heavy scales in the washroom, faucets, inside the toilet tank and the buildup in the toilet bowls dramatically decreased after the initial clean up right after the installation after six months; however, I was still wondering how well it really worked throughout the entire house since we no longer have a dishwasher to show the difference. An year after the installation, our rental hot water heater tank broke down and I was wondering if it was caused by the hard water buildup and the electronic water descaler may not be enough to do the job; however, when the maintance person showed up and pull out the heating rod and it was perfectly clean without any trace of scale and the hot water tank was simply just broken down. The maintenance person was baffled since we did not have a water softener installed and had never heard of a electronic water descaler in his 30 years in the hot water tank business in our area. Least to say beside the minor wipe down and light regular scrub we no longer have any major hard water scale build up issue throughout the house since we installed the first unit and it actually slowly descaled all the scales in the water pipe throughout the entire house with an yearly electricity cost of about $7.00 drawing 5W/h only to operate it. five years later, I added a second unit onto the out going hot water pipe leaving from the hot water tank to add additional descale performance and have both units plugged into a backup battery unit as a safety measure and both are still running well to this day.

[@HandzforHire]

That's a great story! Glad everything is still working well.

[@SkyNet-ty1tm]

Excellent Presentation- got a Yarna 5 months ago. It took 2 months to see the difference. The minerals do not disappear but they are neutralized so they don't stick to anything anymore. That explains the fine powder residue. I am still considering getting a descale filter to completely remove the minerals in addition to the Yarna. The dissolved minerals in northern California water is over 500ppm !

[@HandzforHire]

Wow that's high! Thanks for sharing your experience with Yarna. My in-laws are still pleased with theirs.

[@daakrolb]

Does the water feel any different after being treated? Also- is your skin any less dry?

[@jayherrigel]

@@daakrolb I'll reach out to my in-laws and give you their answer. They could give more insight.

[@daakrolb]

@@jayherrigel Cool. Thanks. My wife wants soft water, and one of these is obviously a breeze to install… but it might not achieve that we’re looking for.

[@HandzforHire]

@@daakrolb Understood! Yeah, it's about time for an update on this unit. It's been a full year since we installed it. I sent an email to Pop Pop and hopefully I'll be able to get back to you with a good answer this weekend.

[@dongato77]

Living in north Jacksonville I feel this pain of hard water and this might be something we look at, thank you!

[@HandzforHire]

I hear you! We're just south of Jacksonville. Have a great day!

[@sharonpederson7903]

Would have loved to see a comparison added with a traditional water softener as well. I'm conflicted on this thing but not crazy about adding salt to the water. Building a new house in an area with pretty bad (hard) water.

[@HandzforHire]

I understand. The truth is that water softener will work better but be more costly to your wallet and the environment. It's a tough call. We do not have anything installed in our home and have to work harder to keep fixtures clean. I had to replace a faucet and a dishwasher after 5 years of living in a new home. Best of luck to you and congratulations on your new house!

[@AlteredBeast4]

@@HandzforHire Great video! What are your thoughts on using this unit in addition to a water softener? Do you think there are any issues having both systems at once? Thanks.

[@HandzforHire]

@@AlteredBeast4 Thanks! Are you still getting limescale with your water softener? I imagine it would work, but I'd think your water softener probably grabs most of the heavy minerals from your water.

[@edwinvicente2574]

@@HandzforHire sir I'm interested how much electro magnetic

[@Phil-D83]

Use both

[@YourDadVR]

I made a hydro pneumatic oscillation vector, it completely eliminated all of my hard water within a week.

[@HandzforHire]

Please share more details. Do you have a video or photos?

[@ttnnaples8060]

Where I buy one?

[@johnfitbyfaithnet]

Could be a troll.....

[@polygon2744]

Two large south pole magnets facing each other on the pipe will do the same thing and cause the deposits not to stick. kj magnetics has an article with scientific references on this. Water treated this way also effects cement and how it sets.

[@HandzforHire]

That's interesting! I'll have to check out that article! Have a great day!

[@nancybailey4794]

Great info! I had no idea that water softeners were so bad for the environment.

[@HandzforHire]

Thank you! To be honest, I didn't know either until I started doing research for this video series. Have a great day!

[@nancybailey4794]

@@HandzforHire I am from the States but live in Guatemala where our plumbing can sometimes be held together with duct tape. We have so much lime in our water and it really damages the pipes and faucets, etc. I was hoping to buy the Yarna but it looks like they are sold out. I just love your videos. The carpet cleaning one is amazing!

[@HandzforHire]

@@nancybailey4794 thank you for the kind words. It means a lot to me! I'm sure plumbing is tough in Guatemala! I noticed that Yarna went out of stock just before I posted my video (lol, of course). I contacted them and they reassured me that they'll be back in stock very soon!

[@nancybailey4794]

@@HandzforHire that's great news!

[@JordanHaisley]

@@nancybailey4794 if you have damaged drain lines salt based softeners do have some advantages. It has a preventative effect on root infiltration.

[@mdonchek]

I see the scale is easier to wipe off in the video, but I wonder if that means you do not have the same build-up on, for example, clogging shower heads and ruining appliances. I understand the minerals are still present in the water, but do they do the same damage to boilers, and other appliances (which is my real concern when it comes to hard water). Thanks

[@ottaknow]

My question also

[@HandzforHire]

Just talked to Pop Pop recently and he continues to do his wipe tests, and faucet aerators, shower heads seem to be doing okay. He does wipe them weekly. The challenge I have is places where water sits for a long period of time. Those particles are still there so for faucets it's not bad, but appliances are a different story. He doesn't see any long term damage to his appliances yet, but it was a new home in 2020. All of our tests were qualitative as well, and honestly we really quantitative data from Yarna to support its effectiveness. Qualitative tests just don't cut it. Could it work in theory? Absolutely! Do we know for sure? No. I hope that helps and I'm sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Some of my comments get lost in the mix.

[@zebmaxwell7979]

7:55 A magnets effect is though the magnetic field so why would it need to be in contact with the water or "Metal pipe". A coper pipe is diamagnetic, so why cant you use PVC or plastic pipes?

[@HandzforHire]

You are 100% correct. Thank you for pointing this out!

[@lauradobelman7484]

Absolutely hands down, one of the best youtube vids I have seen! 1st world problem here, however... my outdoor sprinkler deposits scads of deposits on my aluminum fence. We tried everything to remove it...vinegar (started eco friendly) then clr, then spray nine, aerospace 360... and it was a ton of work on a 180'fence. My question is since it is easier to wipe, would a rainstorm rinse this away?

[@HandzforHire]

Thank you so much! I’m sorry you had to go through that labor intensive cleaning project. I also use BioClean or CLR to remove limescale. I actually did a video comparing hard water cleaning products. I wish I had quantitative data to share with you from Yarna but the information they provided was mostly qualitative. I can imagine that rainwater might wash away the hard water deposits a little easier but I can’t say it with confidence. I wish you the best and hope that you find a good solution (whether Yarna or not) to this problem. Have a great day!!

[@ramonishere]

What about spraying it with rainx?

[@thenomenclature7243]

There's a company (Naturalsof) who sells a catalyst that works similar to this unit but can take care of the entire house and irrigation water as well. It's installed in line and doesn't need any power. Turns calcite crystals into aragonite crystals that won't stick to surfaces

[@orozcofamily8167]

Well done, well edited, and very informative. Thanks for sharing this.

[@HandzforHire]

My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed!

[@StrikingCrayon]

Holy shit, you're doing damn fine work!! Keep it up. I was stunned by your channel size.

[@HandzforHire]

Thanks! Subscribers are challenging with a DIY channel (viewers come and go quickly), but I appreciate your kind words.

[@jeffleatherman3391]

Love the video! Very well made. Yours was the biggest influence in my decision to finally purchase a Yarna and I will be installing it in the near future. I'm guessing you are still waiting on quantitative data from Yarna about the removal of existing deposits from pipes by means water flow. Here's my idea. You're a scientific guy, so why don't you and Pop Pop do a test yourselves using a horizontal transparent pipe made of glass, acrylic, etc.? You could run your local water through it for a few months, then flush it with Pop Pop's treated water and visually inspect it to see if there was any decrease in visible deposits. Just a thought. Cheers, and thanks!

[@HandzforHire]

Thanks! Yes, still waiting on quantitative data. That's actually a really good idea for an experiment to see how it treats the pipe. The challenge is finding the set up. Since I made this video with Pop Pop, I have since gotten a water softener because all of my appliances were deteriorating. I hope the Yarna unit works really well for you! Please check back in and give your honest review.

[@JeffreyWillis800]

I have had a scaleblaster device on my house for about 4 years or so, which if I understand, works on the same principle as the Yarna one. So hopefully I'm getting similar benefits. But it is true, without doing well-controlled experiments, it can be hard to tell by just looking--it can be very subjective. Thank you for this. Would love to see you do this on the Scaleblaster, which is a very common brand.

[@HandzforHire]

Hey thanks for your comment. I unfortunately still don't have any quantitative data from Yarna. It was promised around the time I made this video. I hope your scaleblaster device works well for you!

[@Kafir_Hindu]

Good Job, Wish this turns an International Brand i.e. available across the Globe Sooner

[@HandzforHire]

Thanks!

[@ziggoz]

Great video. Awesome research and information. Thanks great job!!

[@HandzforHire]

Thanks!

[@nickbrick21]

great informative video would live an update. might purchase one of these for my home in northern CA

[@HandzforHire]

Thanks Tracy! I'll have to do an update one of these days. I've been dragging my feet on it because Yarna promised me some quantitative data. I should follow up with them again. Have a great day!

[@KipBurbank1]

Why does jet-dry dish washer additive work so well? And the same stuff in the Cascade version. Glassware silverware look great with it, spotty and residue horrible without it.

[@ttnnaples8060]

Captions needed by many of us

[@HandzforHire]

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see what I can do.

[@johndoe-vc1we]

@@HandzforHire just turn on close captions. It seems disabled for some reason in your video

[@PeterJTamburro]

Pop-Pop is a star!

[@HandzforHire]

Yes he is!

[@jenserikbech]

Just put a teaspoon full of citric acid along with the soap into the soap chamber in your dishwasher. And your wife will be forever thankful for the ultra clean glasses!;-)

[@HandzforHire]

Thank for the tip!

[@jenserikbech]

@@HandzforHire You are welcome brother.

[@shawnsponds]

What citric acid form are you using?

[@jenserikbech]

@@shawnsponds I buy a plastic can of powder in the super market. Don't you have it? It is used for several things. 1 teaspoon Citric acid and a teaspoonful sodium bicarbonate in water will make sparkling water for instance. But mostly used for descaling in a mild fasion.

[@Vitralespuebla]

Is the same if I add the juice of a lime?? Can I add the juice of a lime in the laundry machine?? And also a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate?

[@cornstar1253]

I have PEX pipe. I dont think scale would build up in it like copper or steel. I bought and installed a scalesweeper yesterday. I moved from an area with very soft water that is supplied by snowpack and rainwater to an area with hard water. It's hard getting used to. First thing I did was install an RO system just for drinking water under the sink, along with a whole house Carbon block for chlorine. I dont want the hassle of a huge water softener unit either. We'll see how the scale sweeper works. It cost me 50$ at a local restore.

[@HandzforHire]

Very cool little experiment you have going. Please keep me posted on how well it works!

[@ttnnaples8060]

The water that comes THROUGH pex and into your washer, faucets, dishwasher, fridge water and ice, on tile walls, your kitchen sink, into your hit water tank, etc. THAT is where the damage is done.

[@svenholmgren5015]

Not sure if you will see this, but if you do, please let us know how things are going after close to a year. Thanks!

[@sfsff6979]

Would using this device reverse existing mineral buildup in your water heater?

[@HandzforHire]

According to Yarna it helps diminish build up, but Yarna never provided me with any quantitative data to definitely support that claim. 98% of the piping in my father in law's house is PVC or PEX. I can say that he doesn't have buildup in his pipes, but his house is fairly new. Sorry I can't answer your question with more confidence!

[@shadowsayer1516]

Question : Since the treated water is easier to remove, does that mean it's probably not sticking to my pipes and coming out the spicket? If it makes cleanup easier and keeps my pipes from clogging up I'd say this is a win for the product.

[@HandzforHire]

That's what they claim their technology does and over time it's supposed to help clean your pipes. I unfortunately don't have any hard data to support other than a qualitative wipe test. It was easier to wipe from the surface afterwards though. I'll continue to monitor over time and provide an update once I have some more data to share. Have a great day!

[@mikefa5891]

those crud residue is clearly still there on the glass dish, which means they are still there in your pipes! How will you wipe those residue off from inside the pipes? You can't.

[@shadowsayer1516]

@@mikefa5891 The difference could be the dish has standing water, but the pipes are continuously being flushed by running water (a liquid "wipe").

[@bigpapa3708]

@@HandzforHire hey 8 months later got any update?

[@HandzforHire]

@@bigpapa3708 just talked to Pop Pop and he says that there is still residual stuff, but still remains very easy to wipe away. I would love a quantitative update from Yarna. That would help so much.

[@robertmukundi2004]

Hello. Thank you for sharing the experience. Can this help to protect solar water heater from corroding?

[@HandzforHire]

According to Yarna, the unit should help corrosive materials pass through and not settle in your pipes and appliances. It's hard to say how effective that is. I have a tankless water heater and do an annual vinegar flush. It was the first DIY video I ever made and may be helpful for you. Have a great day! kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4fEhXycfqelgKc

[@johndoe-vc1we]

What was the buildup like on the water inlets for the washing machine or dishwasher and your tap aeration filter? there was another video with 250 ppm water and there were these little rocks that collected in there. He did not try the wipe test as you did and sent the product back.

[@waterlec8718]

Would a pressure reducing valve in the middle of both wraps be ok, or do the two wraps HAVE to occur on the same flat pipe ?

[@HandzforHire]

Truth be told, I'm not 100% sure. I'd reach out to Yarna's customer service for advice on this one. [e-mail]

[@terryruda6425]

There is the most important evaluation missing. What softening effect is noticed for bathing, soap lather, etc. This is what you install these to deal with.

[@fishlanding]

seems like pop pop should re-consider some sort of water softener or water conditioner ?

[@HandzforHire]

He ended up putting a reverse osmosis faucet in his laundry room for drinking water, but is still running the Yarna unit as well.

[@vinniefanelli1347]

Was that the main water supply pipe where the device was attached?

[@HandzforHire]

Yes it was. It's where the water comes into the home.

[@bbc13ify]

So is this type of product worth it or should buying the regular water softener better?

[@lengwxiong0082]

Will this break up old calcium and lime crystals that have formed inside the pipes that are situated farther away from the unit?

[@HandzforHire]

I wish I had real quantitative data to say yes, but I unfortunately don't. Yarna says that they have done tests that prove old build-up does break up over time and that the flow of water through the pipes does improve. I just wish they'd release the data of their studies so we can see it's effectiveness. Positive quantitative data would help the consumer so much!

[@lengxiong7671]

@@HandzforHire Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.

[@HandzforHire]

@@lengxiong7671 you're welcome!

[@Wigz2980]

Thank u so much for this

[@HandzforHire]

You're welcome!

[@martinavalos1381]

So does the minerals stick together all the way our of the houses plumbing or does the charge dissiminate after 30-50 feet away from the location of the Yarnas location and does it descale the minerals already in the pipes that have collected.

[@HandzforHire]

Yarna claims that the formed crystal structures stay in tact and flow right down the drain without sticking, and that everything improves over time. As a scientist, in truth, it was hard to quantify that claim. Qualitatively, it seemed like evaporated water that left residue behind, cleaned up and wiped off much easier, but that's not the science I was hoping for. I told Yarna that if they ever have some solid quantitative data, I'd be happy to make a second video! Good luck!

[@behunin1963]

Would love to see the comparison now, with a bit more time.

[@jasonc9791]

So, the point of the video is that your hard harder is easier to clean after using this product? That's it? My point is that this product has been proven not to work. Having the same hardness after you install it than before you installed it, just proves that point as well. If you want the hardness (calcium and magnesium) removed from your water, the only thing that does that is a salt based water softener. Your explaination of the differences between the systems was excellent though. I just can't understand why anyone would want this product in their own home knowing that it isn't doing anything.

[@HandzforHire]

Jason, thanks for your comment. I completely agree with your thought process. Yarna claimed that they were using an electromagnetic field to to prevent the particles from settling on pipes and fixtures. They never claimed to remove hardness, just to help the minerals pass through easier. When they sent me this product to try out, the first thing I asked for was quantitative data to support the science they were claiming. They promised they'd send me hardcore quantitative data, but I never received. I'm still waiting (haha). The qualitative tests we did yielded a little favor towards the Yarna product, but in my opinion that's not enough. Have a great day!

[@francom6230]

The "wipe test" may show perhaps some "calcite conversion" occured but.. the effect on a heating appliance would be more practical.. btw,, fyi,, the "clumping effect" only lasts a short time (or distance in the pipe).. we have a $7K restaurant steamer that gets caked inside.. EcoLab's 5 stage filter doesn't work at all & RO is still an expensive option.. Love ya cuz this gizzmo seems kinda useless for my needs...

[@johndoe-vc1we]

Yeah like the heating element of an kettle for instance would be a better demonstration. Too bad he won't make an update video though

[@arizonaroom3623]

What was Pop Pop’s reason for not wanting a water softener?

[@HandzforHire]

I believe it was cost ($2000-$3000 installation plus a bag of salt every month or two) and the negative environmental impact from saltwater discharge.

[@catherineschafer2583]

Why doesn’t pop-pop have a water softener in his house? Thanks !

[@HandzforHire]

Great question, and he actually gave me a few reasons... the cost, upkeep, and slimy feeling one gets from soft water were his top 3. Have a great day!

[@coyote7419]

So for benefits of a water softener this will or won’t get those benefits ( softer hair skin laundry etc) or just buff yourself off after a shower? Trying to avoid a softener system and look for alternatives that could give same results but I’m failing to win this battle lol

[@HandzforHire]

So this product will not remove anything from your water like a water softener, but in theory, the minerals in the water are less likely to adhere to surfaces, you, etc. Good luck with your choice and have a good day!

[@chriswall31]

Since apparently you're somewhat of a genius and understand these things way better than I, I was hoping for some input. I have a backflushing iron filter (not water softener) and was going to add one of these units to my system. Would you put it up upstream or downstream of the iron filter? My thought was to put it upstream so as to to hopefully utilize it to keep as much hard water from forming on valves, gauges and my pressure tank and sediment filter which are located upstream from the iron filter, but I have no idea whether the descaling process would effect how the iron filter works. Any thoughts?

[@HandzforHire]

Hi cj3waker - hog wash is correct about the qualitative data and not quantitative, but incorrect about the crook part. Yarna sent us a unit to test out and promised quantitative data to support its effectiveness. To this data, we still have no received data from Yarna. All we could do on this video is test it qualitatively and Pop Pop said he still gets some junk but it's easier to wipe compared to untreated water. Is this a good enough test to say it works well? Absolutely not, and I think you need numbers from trials to know whether it works well or not. Could it work? Yes. Do we know for sure? No. With that said, assuming it does work well, I'd put the iron filter upstream because you'd have fewer particles running through the magnetic field.

[@btomas225]

@@HandzforHire - I do believe that Yarna installation instructions recommends the Iron filter is installed before (closer to the water meter) the Yarna....

[@teammurdoch]

I don't suppose you've done a similar test using a Flow Tech device? Apparently it emits a pulse through the water column throughout your entire plumbing system (lower voltage the further you get away from the source).

[@HandzforHire]

No unfortunately I haven't used a Flow Tech device. That would be an interesting test to do.

[@tavanewton]

now is there anything to filter that lil bit of dust out of the water would be nice to learn

[@HandzforHire]

You can install a house water filter that you change every 3-6 months. That does a pretty good job at catching a lot of these minerals in the water.

[@CamilaMIrwin]

Can you let us know how it’s working a year later?

[@HandzforHire]

Hi Camila, I just had a conversation with Pop Pop, and he said it's going well. It's still fairly easy to wipe away the residue on surfaces. Pipes seem to he holding up well. There's still the chore of maintaining a home and keeping things clean, but no major buildup of limescale.

[@emailjimsylvester]

$419 though! Wow. Not enough difference for that price in my opinion.

[@HandzforHire]

Agreed... it is pricey!!

[@pwnagejetsonjetson4118]

That's why I don't use a dish washer, i hand wash and hand dry

[@HandzforHire]

Nice, I bet everything you wash by hand lasts a whole lot longer too!

[@crookeddealer7026]

How much voltage differential have?Also did you run the out put on an oscilloscope to really check the wave form?

[@jayherrigel]

The potential difference was right around 48V. I unfortunately don't own an oscilloscope to check the true wave form. For this video, we relied on their wave form display.

[@naomiwilliamson1654]

Good video. One dumb question. Since I can't wipe out the inside of my pipes like you wiped pop-pop's Yarna treated dish, does the water passing through the pipes remove the residue? Or does the pipe residue build up just like from unsoftened water? So, the cleaning-up part is attractive, but does it really save my pipes from coating build-up?

[@HandzforHire]

That's not a dumb question at all, and it's one I have as well. Yarna claims that the treated water running through the pipes will reduce and remove residue over time. The residue still deposits outside the pipe where water evaporates and leaves the minerals behind. I have been waiting on quantitative data from Yarna for over a year because this product was new at the time I made this video. They said they would have data to back up their qualitative claims, but I still haven't seen it. I hope that helps!

[@naomiwilliamson1654]

@@HandzforHire Thank you. We decided to try it anyway. If the water feels better (despite that feature is more from the reviews than Yarna), we'll probably stick with it. Hope Yarna responds to your request for data some year. 😕

[@naomiwilliamson1654]

@@HandzforHire Any chance you looked at the "iSpring ED2000 Whole House Water Descaler, Alternative Electronic Salt-Free Hard Water Conditioner, Reduces Limescale Prevent Deposits Build-up?" Seemed more limited in performance in some areas, so we selected Yarna, but seems comparable. Wonder if they'd give you quantitative data?

[@HandzforHire]

@@naomiwilliamson1654 Me too! I'll keep you posted if they ever respond with data. Please let me know how the Yarna works for you!

[@HandzforHire]

@@naomiwilliamson1654 I haven't looked into that one, but data would be good!!

[@EsssPee]

Tx, much appreciated ?… Pros / cons of a combination of conditioning & softening systems?

[@HandzforHire]

That is a wonderful question. I couldn't install this in my home due to the lack of access to the right pipes. Instead I had a water softener and house filter installed. It cost me about $2600 in comparison to this which I believe retails for about $400. My father-in-law has been happy with this, but still notices deposits around fixtures. He says it all still wipes away easily, but since I installed my water softener and house filter, I have zero debris on any fixture and I think my appliances are much happier. Hopefully that answers your questions a little.

[@EsssPee]

Tx for both validating & shedding some light on my question. While rethinking it, another potential solution might be utilizing multiples of the same systems… obviously the electronic one being more cost effective. All very interesting, helpful & appreciated.

[@JoeJonasLuvr5634]

Do you think this would eliminate or reduce calcium buildup in my copper pipes? Any scientific studies to support that theory?

[@HandzforHire]

Hi Bart - when I made this video, I searched hard, and honestly there was no quantitative data to support one way or the other. I pressed the company for data and they said they were still collecting. If you reach out to them, please let me know if they have numerical data to support. The tests we did were qualitative, and we did notice a positive effect, but real data would be needed to fully support.

[@edwardmedina1236]

So none of the electrical and/or magnets systems which propose that will "clean" your water actually cleans your water. What they do is crystalize the minerals, so they are easier to clean. To remove particles from your water you either need a Water Softener or you need a Filtration system. If you have terrible water like these people, then this system will simply make it easier to clean but won't stop any of the spots or ring around the toilet. If you have a decent City Water you might see better results, but honestly it won't do anything for any of the chemicals in your water either (fluoride or chlorine) or any pathogens in the water. Great video though.

[@HandzforHire]

You are 100% correct. I ended up putting in a filtration system and water softener in my home and we haven't had any spots since. Pop Pop is still wiping up residual hardwater spots (even if it is easier to clean).

[@edwardmedina1236]

@@HandzforHire The added benefit is that now you have good drinking water as well as cleaner laundry. Personally, I would go like you with a whole house filter system than a water softener (I don't like the feel of the water plus it introduces salt to the water system).

[@HandzforHire]

@@edwardmedina1236 yes, much better. The water runs through the house filter first and then through the water softener and fortunately I haven't noticed the salt in the drinking water. It's my understanding that the tank of salt water is only flushed through the water softener about once a week. It closes the system, cleans the resin beads that have collected mineral deposits, and then everything is flushed out a different drain line. I imagine that some trace of salt does get through to the drinking lines though. Have a great day!

[@johndoe-vc1we]

1:59 pop pop popsicle, ice, ice, icicle, test, test, testing 1,2,3. Let's see how many get that reference

[@DzinEye]

Too bad the installation was not very well done, otherwise an extremely well done review of the methods science and performance. I am sure that the effectiveness of the treatment was reduced due to wrapping over the angle fittings, as well as the increased pipe thickness at the fitting connectors. Of course it would have been a bigger job to plumb properly but I suspect worth the effort.

[@HandzforHire]

Yes, agreed. It was my father-in-laws brand new house and to demolish a wall or reconfigure the plumbing wasn't on the table. Lol. I'm glad you enjoyed the review otherwise. Have a great day!

[@emcsquare62]

great review, But, I don't want the "crud" to get to me.

[@johndoe-vc1we]

What procedure was used to test the water hardness? Did you use a TDS meter or something else.

[@HandzforHire]

Do you have a public water utility? If you have public water, all the water data is published online.

[@johndoe-vc1we]

@@HandzforHire ok, i was just surprised you used the unit ppm instead of grains per gallon.

[@HandzforHire]

@@johndoe-vc1we I just reported on the data I had since I didn't run the water quality analysis myself.

[@chairmankim9628]

I tried 2 electronic and 1 magnetic water softener. They did nothing at all.

[@HandzforHire]

Good to know. Did you collect any data to do a before and after comparison? If so, what kind of tests did you run?

[@jaiindia100]

Nice iinformation

[@jayherrigel]

Thanks!

[@toocoolcuts]

Would the Yarna unit work on PVC?

[@HandzforHire]

I believe that they advertise that it does, but I did not test it on PVC specifically. You can always reach out to them to see what they say. Good luck and if you do go with it, please let me know how well it works. www.yarna.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiAvJarBhA1EiwAGgZl0ISciJrl0a6OeZKV3Imr1Ul6_CNgwThhaK5wAuCxXsSgicseWyZMSRoCumsQAvD_BwE

[@mylesm7947]

U do any 3rd party testing

[@HandzforHire]

That would have been a great idea, but it's costly. In my honest opinion Yarna should provide the quantitative data from their research. Have a great day!

[@MrRawMonkey]

Seems then that the insides of pipes will clog up just as much as they can’t be wiped.

[@HandzforHire]

Well in theory the pipes should be flushed. Residue is left behind where water evaporates.

[@edge7074]

So it is still sticking to the inside of the pipes and appliances. How is this making it any better? You can't wipe the inside of the pipes!

[@HandzforHire]

True, in theory (according to Yarna), the flow of the water should flush content in the pipes away over time rather than build. Outside the pipes, the water on surfaces is evaporated water that has left behind residue. This we found easier to wipe.

[@edge7074]

@@HandzforHire a good test, would be to take a section of pipe out, install a new piece with union so it can be removed 6 months or a year later and see what the build up looks like.

[@HandzforHire]

@@edge7074 I like that idea. I wish Yarna would do something like that and release the data. If it works well, then wouldn't they want to showcase it?

[@edge7074]

@@HandzforHire you would think! Pretty costy gadget with no real proof it is actually doing anything. For anyone that has this already, this would be a good test. Cutting a small 2 foot section out and installing a new piece with unions would be a simply task, plus give everyone the answers they are looking for.

[@HandzforHire]

@@edge7074 that would be cool. Now convincing my father-in-law to cut a hole in his piping is a different story. Lol. This is something Yarna should be doing. They promised me quantitative data that they were gathering since this was a new product when I made this video. I still haven't received the data. I hope they provide it soon. If good, it could be a gamechanger, but without it, qualitative tests are all we can rely on.

[@Noitisnt-ns7mo]

Pop-Pop? Like in "Better Call Saul"?

[@HandzforHire]

Lol, love that show and yes, absolutely!

[@jaybee3165]

someone LIED their ass off to you about hard water. 180ppm is 10.5 grains of hardness- that is F'n SLUDGE! 3 grains would actually be considered pretty bad. 1 grain will make shower doors look like frosted glass- HORRIBLE.

[@davesdrone3125]

Yarna claims it takes 90 days to see results.

[@wisemjk9813]

Good science but not paying 400.$

[@Julia-Julia]

“Purified” is not “distilled”… it’s just filtered…

[@johndoe-vc1we]

Yeah its just RO

[@karthie1000]

Haha, it’s 900ppm during rain and more than 1200 during summers

[@SSModi852]

This is a snake oil unless proven by multiple independent research. And I wonder why no one is doing such research even though it could be so good for environment compared to salt water softeners.

[@janseendiguiseppiThomasMC]

My ppm is 900.

[@HandzforHire]

WOW!!! That's super high!

[@janseendiguiseppiThomasMC]

@@HandzforHire yeah Arizona water is horrible

[@HandzforHire]

@@janseendiguiseppiThomasMC Yeah, I can imagine. Like us, your groundwater is all stored in ancient aquifers that were once sea beds. Lots of calcium deposits!

[@janseendiguiseppiThomasMC]

@@HandzforHire I installed an electric descaler and an RO system now. My water pressure is already starting to get better. I did see some black specs coming out of the regular faucet but I'm assuming that's all the junk that is coming off the inside of the pipes from the descaler because we never had that before. Next weekend I'm putting in a 4 stage filter system

[@HandzforHire]

@@janseendiguiseppiThomasMC Wow, that's awesome!

[@saeed6811]

Price is a rip off.

[@waynefreeman595]

STOP THE MUSIC!!!

[@paulhotson5820]

No difference.

[@RandyAugustus]

Hardly seems worth the effort.

[@barbadolid5170]

Friggin music, what's the point of the noisy background?