Aluminum Tape for Model Airplane Skin Panels - Flite Metal

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FlyingSModels

FlyingSModels

4 жыл бұрын

Another Quick Tips - Pro Results episode that highlights the use of aluminum foil tape to create realistic panels on your scale models. This video uses Flite Metal products aluminum.
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@rfortier1615
@rfortier1615 3 жыл бұрын
Careful. As a HVAC Tech I have sliced my finger more than once running my finger over it.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, care is need. Appreciate the heads up and reminder.
@chilarai1
@chilarai1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. This hobby is an endless ocean of invaluable knowledge. Thank you so much.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 2 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps. Appreciate you taking the time to provide some positive feedback. Cheers!
@ScottysScaleStudio
@ScottysScaleStudio 4 жыл бұрын
Neat technique for the toolbox Chad, going to have a try with this real soon. Thanks for sharing!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks S3. Like you said, just another tool in the toolbox!
@mavos1211
@mavos1211 3 жыл бұрын
Adam savage swears by that HVAC tape, he uses it to make his wood swords look like metal. Very cleaver thank you for sharing.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
I've used both the HVAC tape and the Flite Metal stuff. The Flite Metal works a little better for these models but for small areas, the HAVC tape is fine. It's also less expensive. I hadn't seen any of the Adam Savage stuff but I'll have to check that out now. Thanks for sharing.
@toddac61
@toddac61 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Also if the HVAC tape has writing on it like UL listed Acetone will take it right off.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddac61 Good intel but Acetone aint too good for foam or other materials so it's a good warning and a good tip all at the same time. Thanks!
@toddac61
@toddac61 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Just wipe the lettering off before applying and let it evaporate.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddac61 Roger that. Thanks!
@christiandtorres9843
@christiandtorres9843 3 жыл бұрын
I love that your building an argentine plane model
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It's a long term project for sure.
@RichardsModellingAdventures
@RichardsModellingAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my dad used to do this over 40 years ago with the dull side of thin kitchen foil. apply a thin layer of varnish on both the model and the foil, let both go tacky and lay it on. Took a bit of practice but we did a 24th scale Airfix P51 mustang all over. It looked amazing. It looks great when you weather the paint off too on leading edges and walk ways etc.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! This is a little less labor intensive due to the factory applied adhesive. It's also a little thicker than foil which helps to make some things like wing fillets and such a bit more prominent. It's also a little more heavy duty and can be sanded and polished to create different sheens/effects. Thanks for the great inputs on an alternate approach.
@jayrohumbertoguzmanvalenci1351
@jayrohumbertoguzmanvalenci1351 2 жыл бұрын
Proffesional, and efective. Like natural metal finish. Thanks, for this amazing trick. Greetings from Guatemala, the Land of Quetzal Bird, simbol of Freedom.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you kind feedback. Hope the videos help!
@wingnutzster
@wingnutzster 3 жыл бұрын
I have lots of aluminium tapes from a variety of manufacturers and countries but none of it is as wonderfully thick as the stuff you're demonstrating here, every difficulty I have encountered has come down to the lightness of the material - if I could find a thich tape like this it would be a pleasure to work with. Great video
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you have the ability to order it but Flite-Metal is still available. I don't have any association with them but it's good stuff!
@nigel900
@nigel900 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Very clever.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. Just another tool to use when the need arises. Cheers!
@ScaleAero
@ScaleAero 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful demonstration of how r/c modeling products can provide excellent results on both plastic and wood non-r/c models . I recommend sanding Flite-Metal while taped to a flat cookie sheet before removal of the backing to achieve the desired patina and surface texture "prior" to applying it to your model. 👍 In r/c applications a small electric 1/4 sheet palm sander is used to quickly reduce the surface texture to the desired appearance and permit Flite-Metal to condense prior to polishing and or weathering... "For The Look Of The Real Thing"😎. Flite-Metal is dead soft .0018 mil...not gutter tape. Burnishing and finishing tools accompany "FK" packaged Flite-Metal. Excellent video !
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback and the bonus content to supplement the video. Those are some great inputs on how to improve the surface finish/quality of the Flite-Metal. I'm going to have to try them. It's great stuff and I want to eventually put it on a small R/C foamy as well. Thank you again!!
@joekmodels
@joekmodels 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip! This is very cool indeed, first time I've seen this
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joe. Hope you can use it on a future build. Works great!
@JoannaHammond
@JoannaHammond 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice tip.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps!
@dragonsword7370
@dragonsword7370 3 жыл бұрын
now you have me wanting build model planes from frames and use the hvac or flitemetal to skin the plane. Thanks!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to hearing how it goes. Keep me posted, please.
@busmirror
@busmirror 3 жыл бұрын
A simple method to remove the backing from anything having a protective film over the adhesive is to cover a corner or edge with a piece of masking tape, let it extend past the edge. Turn the item over and repeat the process. Let the masking tape pieces stick to itself at the backing and face, now simultaneously pull the masking tape pieces away from themselves, it will easily separate the backing and facing.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thank you for sharing. I obviously needed some help trying to fat finger that backing...haha. Really appreciate you taking the time to provide this great tip/instruction.
@busmirror
@busmirror 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Glad to help.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@busmirror Appreciate that.
@hlcepeda
@hlcepeda 3 жыл бұрын
In the September 1995 issue of _R/C Jet International_ magazine, is an article (Scale Metal Finishing Pt.2; pages 46-49) of how to attain even greater realism with applied metal tape. Once applied, separate panels can be subtly differentiated from one another (as is noticed on actual aircraft): The process involves coloring various individual panels with varying _subtle_ shades/tints of chalk dust, then rubbing said panels with various grades of fine wire wool. I still have a copy of that issue, and the color images show phenomenal realism; that was on a large scale R/C BVM kit model. As an experiment, I tried it some years back on a section of a sacrificial 1/48 plastic model; the results were very good, but the smaller scale requires a softer, more careful hand.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
That's some good back story on the use of this or similar products to finish larger aircraft. I remember seeing the BVM Viper in action way back when at Jets over Deland in FL. Loved watching those rip through the sky. You are correct in that it takes a little more work to do a whole model in this smaller scale. I typically only use the technique for raised panel areas like wing fillets and such. Appreciate the good comments/inputs.
@hlcepeda
@hlcepeda 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels 👍✈️
@Broadshore
@Broadshore 3 жыл бұрын
God! I need to get back into scratch building myself... GREAT Video!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good words. It takes a while but nothing more rewarding.
@davidhenryandthemysterons3220
@davidhenryandthemysterons3220 Жыл бұрын
I have a good collection of foil plains I built in the COVID year. I was very happy with the results 😃. I found application of glue to the foil
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Would love to see some if you want to share some pics over on my facebook page.
@TheDrAkira
@TheDrAkira 3 жыл бұрын
Like because you are putting together a IA-58 Pucará! I never thought that other than us Argentinians like this great ground attack airplane :)
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...I love that plane. And I'm guessing no mainstream manufacturer will make one in 1/32. But if I get it done, I'm sure they will make one. That's the way it always goes.
@kurttank3081
@kurttank3081 3 жыл бұрын
siiii, es un PUCARA!!!! Argentino
@emilflognoid1532
@emilflognoid1532 3 жыл бұрын
This would be a cool way to do the Razor Crest from the Mandalorian, or a Back to the Future Delorean
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. All kinds of great applications! Good suggestions.
@Antiganos
@Antiganos 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, they used this exact technique on the Razor Crest for the miniature shots, resin printed base plus HVAC paneling.
@oribarsan9873
@oribarsan9873 4 жыл бұрын
nice video, always wanted to find out how to do this technique. One tip, could you fix your camera aperture so you can cover more depth, its frustrating when most of the important bits are out of focus.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you and I appreciate the video tip. Still trying to figure out the camera and a better setup. Thank you for that feedback. I'm going to try to make some adjustments.
@terifarley4770
@terifarley4770 3 жыл бұрын
B-36 magnesium & Aluminum paneling contrast ease now thanks for this tip!
@terifarley4770
@terifarley4770 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect for weathering of painted panels now to like on a B-17 or C-47 seeing a lot of combat, just wear wing and cowling edges to expose the aluminum, make flak shrapnel scuffs as well!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Now that will be spectacular! Good luck with the Peacemaker and have fun!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
For sure! Makes chipping and weathering quite realistic!
@raysno8367
@raysno8367 3 жыл бұрын
Probably get a good weathering effect too !
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. Totally legit chipping and weathering.
@thomasblitz3884
@thomasblitz3884 3 жыл бұрын
I like it very good. Really fantástic excellent.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Thomas!
@TheWirksworthGunroom
@TheWirksworthGunroom 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting technique and very fine model making. The foil tape is in common use in the aviation industry, often known as "speed tape". It comes on a roll, 2" wide is a common size. As aviation is very highly regulated, shelf-life expired rolls are often disposed of so if you know somebody who works in the field, you can probably get the stuff for free or for a few beers.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and thank you for the excellent tip. Now I need to talk to my aviation buddies and get some of that expired tape. Good tip!
@guidosarducci3047
@guidosarducci3047 3 жыл бұрын
good post.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Guido!
@ploppysonofploppy6066
@ploppysonofploppy6066 3 жыл бұрын
Alumin(I)um!!🤭 Sorry, couldn't resist. Got to try this. Too many kits have panel lines too deep, and "trenched" rather than overlapping. This could be the answer. Thank you.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
It works great for overlapping panels. A little tricky to work around some very small compound curves and I've never tried to to an entire model with the stuff. But it certainly is another tool in the tool box for us.
@tjfSIM
@tjfSIM 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the element was originally named as per the American form. It was us Brits who insisted on changing the name, to make it sound more ‘latin’. Both forms are acceptable. diecasting.com/blog/2014/02/26/aluminum-vs-aluminium-the-etymology-of-the-um-and-ium-debate/
@FRITZI999
@FRITZI999 3 жыл бұрын
Americans..... ;-)
@ploppysonofploppy6066
@ploppysonofploppy6066 3 жыл бұрын
@@tjfSIM I've been forced to notice the English language in a way I wouldn't normally. My son is dyslexic and he's highlighted the fact that the language often makes no sense! The meaning is the most important thing, as long as the pronunciation "aluminum" cannot be confused with anything else who cares?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. And the English language is a funny thing, that's for sure. So many difference pronunciations for words that are spelled the same.
@mirrorblue100
@mirrorblue100 4 жыл бұрын
This video is super informative - thanks. Another topic I'd like to see you address is canopy masking. JG
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've been looking for the right way to shoot that video (canopy masking) but it's definitely one that's in the works.
@FinsburyPhil
@FinsburyPhil 3 ай бұрын
@@FlyingSModels sorry, late to this. I've just started using thin 'Bare Metal Foil' for canopy masking and the results are excellent.
@billlong9606
@billlong9606 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going to do an 'all bare metal finish' Pucara at first (which would be daft unless you want to dazzle your ground targets to death!) but this technique is much more subtle than that -excellent work.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
No, Bill, no all metal Pucara although it would certainly dazzle the ground targets...haha. Just wanted to show how the metal sheet could be used to create different surface features on the Pucara. Thanks for your kind words!
@digitalartee
@digitalartee 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@youknoweverything7643
@youknoweverything7643 Жыл бұрын
I been doing this for years on my 1/24 scale model cars to simulate bare aluminum interior for a pro mod or street / strip drag car build and of course the 1/32 scale and bigger model planes I been doing this to for years since I was 10 and now I'm 30 and guess what it doesn't yellow or peel up after years
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels Жыл бұрын
Excellent. It is a great product/tool to have at our disposal. Appreciate the feedback!
@ScaleMilitaryModels
@ScaleMilitaryModels 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting technique! I wonder if you even have to paint it, if the aircraft is bare alumnium
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 2 жыл бұрын
That's the great part, no painting required as it's actually aluminum!
@Pinkielover
@Pinkielover 3 жыл бұрын
Aluminum foil and pressure sensitive glue works great
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. That does work well also. I like the fact that the Flite Metal comes with adhesive on it.
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos 3 жыл бұрын
I like the BareMetalFoil product - it is available in a variety of surface finishes, adheres extremely well, and is extremely thin.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
It is a good product and a good bit thinner than the Flite Metal. I like the lapped joints that can be created with the Flite Metal product a little better.
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels I think there's definitely a place for both. Definitely some aircraft had overlapping panels which is definitely an area where a thicker foil would shine - but of course there are plenty of examples where skin panel joints are flush-fitted, especially once you get into the jet era.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@chuckschillingvideos Indeed. I like the bare metal for the more modern aircraft.
@ohgary
@ohgary 3 жыл бұрын
To remove backing flick the corner with your thumb and middle finger. The two parts will separate just enough to grasp one side and start peeling.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Another great tip. I appreciate you sharing with the community here. Cheers!
@wildatlanticman128
@wildatlanticman128 3 жыл бұрын
V cool.👍🏻
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@revvingnoodle7192
@revvingnoodle7192 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing this quick tip video, makes me think if getting the hughes H-1 racer be completely taped over and weathered to give it that nice effect
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
That would look amazing. If you do it, make sure to share some pics over on my facebook page: facebook/flyingSmodels or through the contact section on my website: flyingSmodels.square.site. Thanks!
@revvingnoodle7192
@revvingnoodle7192 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels oh no, i don't have the kit or the materials for it but i thought it be interesting idea to see someone try it out, the H-1 racer, as wellas the commecial airliners used by the american airlines aluminum finish, but sounds good idea to try nonetheless
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@revvingnoodle7192 For sure!!
@healey100austin
@healey100austin 3 жыл бұрын
Cotton buds/q tips work a treat for burnishing.👍
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
That is a great tip. Thanks for sharing.
@healey100austin
@healey100austin 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels no probs 👍
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@healey100austin Keep the good comments coming. Helps not only me but the entire community here. Thanks!!
@rossie273
@rossie273 3 жыл бұрын
i shall try this on a scratch built steel hulled paddle steamer - thanks
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
I bet that it will work great and look even better!!
@Pingolavau
@Pingolavau 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice videos !! Is there any link to how you are building the Pucara ? I am very interested in learning scratch building techniques. Thank you.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I haven't made that particular video yet as it is a pretty long process. But I'm certainly thinking about how to do it and will plan something in the future. In the meantime, you can message me through facebook/flyingSmodels or the the contact info at flyingSmodels.com if you want to know more about my particular methods.
@MegaBIGJOE64
@MegaBIGJOE64 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tip but, what's the adventage of putting a metal layer to create the details over doing the details on the plastic model itself ?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The metal can bend and warp around compound curves unlike the plastic, unless you thermo form it. Appreciate the feedback!
@spankyharland9845
@spankyharland9845 3 жыл бұрын
I been using aluminum tape on many of my models- works nice except it will make your model a bit heavier than normal. I used it on a 1/72 scale C47- aluminized the entire model and it weighed more than it did if I left plastic.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Does add some weight so you have to make sure to take that into effect.
@spankyharland9845
@spankyharland9845 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels if you ever build the Apollo command module and lunar module, this stuff makes it look good. :)
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@spankyharland9845 I bet it does. I haven't build any real space models but would be good to try this stuff out on it. Thanks for the input!
@ericking7406
@ericking7406 3 жыл бұрын
Many years ago we used cooking foil glued on shiney side down
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that works too but this is a bit better to me.
@CrusaderSports250
@CrusaderSports250 3 жыл бұрын
You sometimes saw people using litho plate in the seventies to produce all metal finishes, they were a true work of art, foil tape still requires care and skill but is so much easyer and its thinner and more readily available, got a roll from my local tool stockist.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrusaderSports250 I agree. I only used the plate a few times and not for entire builds. This Flite Metal stuff is far better and easier to use, at least to me. For those that can pull it off, a real metal skinned model is indeed a work of art.
@thomaswilson3437
@thomaswilson3437 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.... I was using the aluminum tape for seatbelts...
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good use too. Although I prefer the use of pewter foil for the belts. I think it lays down better (just my opinion, though). You can check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2GtfYKqmt6ae5I
@thomaswilson3437
@thomaswilson3437 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels I did see your vid and I would agree with you...but I haven't had any at hand and forget to look for it when I go out....also, my glasses are constantly fogged from having to wear a mask so wouldn't see it anyway.... : )
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomaswilson3437 I hear you. Hard to do any shopping when wearing glasses and a mask. Glad you are staying safe, though!
@tyfon4429
@tyfon4429 3 жыл бұрын
Have a Good One bro.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You too!
@SullieStrings
@SullieStrings 3 жыл бұрын
So could you use this as a way to “wrap” the model instead of painting it? This is very interesting, thanks!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Another guy commented here that he did just that with his small RC foamy and he said it worked great! I only painted it here as the Pucara was going to be painted rather than left in a natural metal finish.
@vmoney9106
@vmoney9106 3 жыл бұрын
I would say for a scale model it would be easier to paint it if you want a bare metal finish, as I haven’t seen many foiled projects that dont have a lot of foil texture. Your idea of creating raised panels (and painting with a primer like Mr Surfacer) is a great idea. I have seen an alternative method of taping off the area in question and brushing on Mr Surfacer and then sanding it down to create a raised panel look
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@vmoney9106 Yep, I haven't done a whole static model with Flite Metal and don't think I would, unless it was a much larger scale. I do like it for building up raised panels as it's easier to work with (at least to me) than laying down a coat of Mr. Surfacer or similar. Appreciate the comments.
@ericheckenkamp6091
@ericheckenkamp6091 3 жыл бұрын
I'm modelling some stuff for a table top RPG and looking for Flash Gordon style rocketships. Up until now I have built the rockets at all. I have a gang plank they use to enter the battle map. I just can't make a good looking retro sci fi rocket that looks good. Everything I build looks like too "star wars"...this is what I need to tip it to "retro" science fiction! This technique, some oatmeal tubes and disposable contact lens containers are gonna make some ROCKETSHIPS!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
This will definitely satisfy your "retro" needs. Would love to see some pics of your work if you want to share them!!
@warbuzzard7167
@warbuzzard7167 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tips. RC modelers: aluminum foil may compromise your radio signal reception! Use with caution. This effect may be ideal for statics, though.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
I've wondered too about whether or not fuel from the exhaust would effect the long term adhesion of the foil on the RC planes. Works well for the static ones I build.
@FRITZI999
@FRITZI999 3 жыл бұрын
connect the Antenna to the Skin - THEN you have a giant Antenna ;-)
@daverose8772
@daverose8772 3 жыл бұрын
You should run your antenna leads to the outside of the plane for RC use.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@daverose8772 For sure, Dave. Appreciate you making that point for those wanting to use this technique on RC aircraft.
@warbuzzard7167
@warbuzzard7167 3 жыл бұрын
@@daverose8772 What happens when you're going the other way? Now you are trying to receive RF through TWO layers of aluminum foil - not a good plan for reception.
@johnrettig1880
@johnrettig1880 3 жыл бұрын
I've got two (2 ) Guillow's B - 29's in 1/32'nd scale that I've been wanting to build . And I've completely forgot about this technique . Now all I've got to do is get an order of 1:32 inch bass or balsa wood to do the main skinning . Once that's done with my next step is to scratch build the cockpit (s) . YYYYIIIIPPPPPYYYYY !!!!!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an awesome project. Keep me posted on it. Look forward to seeing some pics!
@johnrettig1880
@johnrettig1880 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Thanks And yes it is but it's going to be a little while before I get to them . Each has roughly 4 ft wingspan and about 3 1/2 ft fuselage . One will be the classic Enola Gay and the other one well have a 1/32'nd scale Bell X-1 Glamorous Glennis in the belly .
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnrettig1880 Totally understand. Epic projects always take time. Best of luck on them. 2 perfect choices!!
3 жыл бұрын
0:21 The Argentine IA-58 Pucara. 😁
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@ilovegod1870
@ilovegod1870 3 жыл бұрын
Can you polish the foil back to its orignal state or even more?`And thank you for your video
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, using various grades of fine sandpaper, you can polish it to a high sheen. Hope this helps.
@ilovegod1870
@ilovegod1870 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Yes that helps, thank you!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilovegod1870 Excellent. Let me know if you have any additional questions.
@SteveBueche1027
@SteveBueche1027 3 жыл бұрын
Quick tip for backing removal: Lise another piece of exposed tape to grab those corners. Saves you hours of frustration
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Great tip, Jackson. Appreciate you sharing with us. Cheers!
@YTjndallas
@YTjndallas 3 жыл бұрын
FlyingSModels Or grow some fingernails.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@YTjndallas hahaha...yes, that's yet another approach.
@totalhobby1
@totalhobby1 4 жыл бұрын
What is the make of the kit?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 4 жыл бұрын
There's no kit. I am making this 1/32 IA-58 Pucara from scratch. Slowly but surely 😀
@redbandit8757
@redbandit8757 3 жыл бұрын
maybe foil vinyl from 3M would work better when you wet apply it?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Have not tried that it might be worth a look. I appreciate the suggestion!
@rogerairborne
@rogerairborne 3 жыл бұрын
I am an aircraft mechanic.. very realistic...
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the expert endorsement. Appreciate the feedback!
@dermotanthonydavidkyne1019
@dermotanthonydavidkyne1019 3 жыл бұрын
The very thin foil in packets of cigarettes is even better. It is much thinner, and easier to work with. And the effect is also more "realistic."
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Great suggestions, although I don't smoke or know anyone that does so I'll have to go dumpster diving to find some...haha. I actually like the Flite Metal stuff as it stands proud on the surface of the model which helps when I build up layers of primer (I don't lose some of the raised/relief effects). Thank you for sharing this additional resource with the community here. All the best, Chad.
@kl0wnkiller912
@kl0wnkiller912 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you find a Pucara in 1/32 scale?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
No kit out there. Just building it from scratch. Cheers!
@tavo313able
@tavo313able 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels wow!!!!!
@soknightsam
@soknightsam 3 жыл бұрын
Think I'll give this a go on a small foam rc plane. Love the little planes but hate the look of foam
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it works. When I was flying foamies, I'd always airbrush and weather my little warbirds but never tried to put aluminum over the foam. Would give a great look!
@soknightsam
@soknightsam 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Will do. Done the air brushing too though it looks better it doesn't add too much to damage resistance. Hopefully the tape will keep the cheapo foam in the air longer because they sure are fun to beat on for the buck
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@soknightsam Amen to that. Hard to beat them for "pound for pound" fun. I'm guessing it makes 'em a little more durable. I used to spend hours and hours redoing the schemes with a custom airbrushed/weathered finish only to auger it in on the maiden flight...haha.
@soknightsam
@soknightsam 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Reporting in. Wasn't as bad as I thought. I cut mirrored panels and kind of jig sawed it together. Doesn't look half bad and only added 4 grams total for a 12 inch foamy. It's still too cold and windy to fly in Houston but I'd put money on the investment it holds up better. Lots of smiles per dollar
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@soknightsam Thanks for the report. Only 4 grams sounds doable. From what I'm hearing, definitely not the right weather in Houston yet, even indoors. Sorry about all that. Looking forward to a report on flight/durability. Would love to see some pics if you want to share. I could even post them on the community tab to share with others here. If you want to, you can contact me through the contact section over on my website: flyingsmodels.square.site/
@normg2242
@normg2242 3 жыл бұрын
This looks oddly satisfying...lol
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough, it is :)
@centerspike6613
@centerspike6613 3 жыл бұрын
A nice way to skin a foamy
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
I have to try that. I had a bunch of foamies but never tried to stick the stuff to it. Thanks!
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 3 жыл бұрын
A Pucara! Who's the manufacturer?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
FMA (Fábrica Militar de Aviones) in Argentina.
@Boeing767DriverAA
@Boeing767DriverAA Жыл бұрын
Flite Metals website is up but no one's at home.... They never answer emails been trying to order for weeks Guess Ill use HVAC or speed tape instead
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels Жыл бұрын
I'll have to give them a try as well. Been a couple of years since I have dealt with them so hopefully Covid didn't cause them to close up shop. I found the Flite Metal much easier to work with than HVAC tape. Sorry to hear that but thanks for the comment for info.
@Boeing767DriverAA
@Boeing767DriverAA Жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels If you're able to reach them please let me know I hope they havent closed up shop
@tboy630
@tboy630 3 жыл бұрын
Show your moldprocess.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about making a video for that. It's a pretty long and drawn out process.
@jcbraka3771
@jcbraka3771 3 жыл бұрын
Where you get this IA-53?? I've been looking for it almost a life!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Making it from scratch. No kit out there that I know of...at least not yet :)
@jcbraka3771
@jcbraka3771 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Looks very well done just like an injected model. Congrats and excelente idea!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@jcbraka3771 Appreciate that, JC. It's one of those long term projects that I will work on in between other less challenging builds. Cheers!!
@hercholand
@hercholand 3 жыл бұрын
In Argentina you can buy some 1/72 Pucara models !!!
@Coyote27981
@Coyote27981 3 жыл бұрын
@J C Braka IA-58 is the Pucará. IA-53 is a crop duster called Mamboretá
@justincollins8537
@justincollins8537 3 жыл бұрын
This foil tape looks like the same tape used when using celotex insulation when house building
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
The Flite Metal is thinner and a little more "refined" if that even makes sense. But I've used regular HVAC tape as well with good results.
@jeffevans3193
@jeffevans3193 3 жыл бұрын
Why not tin foil most scaled look?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried that too. It works well but does have to have foil adhesive applied and I had less control using that method than using the Flite Metal that comes with a uniform adhesive already applied to the foil. But yes, you can certainly use tin foil and even boil it will some egg shells to tin the foil. Very neat effect.
@jeffevans3193
@jeffevans3193 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels good to know thanks
@leewriter4656
@leewriter4656 3 жыл бұрын
After watching this video and seeing all the comments, I'm shocked to learn that so many "grown men" are playing with these model kits.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha....I know. I guess we never grow up, only grow old ;)
@fasold2164
@fasold2164 3 жыл бұрын
2:20: Longer fingernails are helpful...
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
True that.
@bartomiejbudnik4047
@bartomiejbudnik4047 3 жыл бұрын
The best way to remove paper of, is to tear off (on the side of unused part) from the roll or cutted area. I cursed the moment many times if I tried to remove paper of of the aluminium duct tape. Cutting was the worse way.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@bartomiejbudnik4047 For sure. Much easier if going from the torn side.
@jeffhallel8211
@jeffhallel8211 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Show the model box.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
What box are you referring to? The 1/32 Pucara I show is scratch built. There's no box for that one. I certainly could have shown the PCM box but that kit was just to demo the process. Thanks for the comment!
@jeffhallel8211
@jeffhallel8211 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Thanks for showing the metal techniqes. I'm just suggesting that you make it clear to the audience what type of aircraft you are working on.You said something about Argentina so I am thinking Pulqui.Your work on the model does not show if the plane is jet powered or prop.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffhallel8211 Copy that, Jeff. I mention in the video that it is a scratch built, IA-58 Pucara. The intent of the video was to show the aluminum skinning rather than a specific model but I should have made that more clear. Since the Pucara is scratch built, I could have shown some pics or drawings. Appreciate your suggestions.
@mikejungferman4744
@mikejungferman4744 10 ай бұрын
I thought it would look cool in foil , like a P-51
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 10 ай бұрын
For sure. Everything looks cool in natural metal!
@Lozzie74
@Lozzie74 3 жыл бұрын
How did you build the Pucara? Btw, it’s pronounced “poo-CA-ra”. It looks AWESOME!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction on the pronunciation. I'll try to remember that. I also appreciate the kind words on the work itself. With regards to the building of the Pucara, all of the cockpit parts are being built from sheet, rod, and square styrene. The fuselage was created using a mold I made. I built a wood male plug and then made a female mold from that. I then did a resin layup in the female mold to create a "hollow cast" fuselage section. Then, lots of sanding the detail work. Still a lot of work ahead. It's a long term project for sure.
@daniellucena9694
@daniellucena9694 3 жыл бұрын
Great job sir!!!thank you for sharing your technique!!Like.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel. Hope it helps.
@martindione386
@martindione386 3 жыл бұрын
nope, it's poo-ca-RA, the accent is in the final syllable, Pucará
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@martindione386 Thanks for helping us all out. I'm so confused...haha.
@GastonMaqueda
@GastonMaqueda 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the IA-58 exist in a scale model
@kl0wnkiller912
@kl0wnkiller912 3 жыл бұрын
Planet Models has one in 1/72... its a pretty poor kit tho... I saw the picture and that is what drew me here too. He says it is scratchbuilt but I don't know where he got the kit though... that is what I was waiting to hear...
@GastonMaqueda
@GastonMaqueda 3 жыл бұрын
@@kl0wnkiller912 During the 90s I become crazy searching for this model.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
There are a few scale model kits of the IA-58. I think that Special Hobby makes a good one in 1/72 and Kinetic just released a new tooled injection molded kit in 1/48. I have built the 1/48 resin Aconcagua Pucara in the past and I believe that it is now available through Dukel Hobbies out of Argentina. I believe the kit has been reworked a little to make it even better. Here is the link for that one: dukelhobbies.com.ar/tienda/aviones-modelos/aviones-dukel-hobbies/aviones-dukel-hobbies-1-48/f-m-a-ia-58a-pucara/ I am making the one shown in the video from scratch. It's in 1/32 scale. I've never seen a kit of the Pucara in 1/32.
@tylerbonser7686
@tylerbonser7686 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a frog plane? why would you want ribits on it?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good one. Thank you for the laugh :)
@tylerbonser7686
@tylerbonser7686 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels couldn't help myself. Great video.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerbonser7686 I needed a good laugh. Thanks!
@robot7759
@robot7759 3 жыл бұрын
Scratch build? 🤔
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, a little at a time. A real long term project for sure.
@robertjensen1094
@robertjensen1094 3 жыл бұрын
Just a comment for the algorithm.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
The algorithm appreciates you :)
@Karrde
@Karrde 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels The algorithm is working, I don't even do models and I clicked this video. I don't even know why.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@Karrde Now that's funny. I appreciate the laugh, the comment, and the support to the algorithm....even if you don't know why. Thanks!
@leeboyd1128
@leeboyd1128 Ай бұрын
Why sand it?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels Ай бұрын
You don't have too if you wanted it to be natural metal and very shiny. I sanded it to remove slight surface imperfections since I was going to prime it anyway.
@leeboyd1128
@leeboyd1128 Ай бұрын
@@FlyingSModels so you prime the aluminum?
@hrtpaul
@hrtpaul 4 жыл бұрын
I need a 1/32 Pucara pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 4 жыл бұрын
We sure do. This is one of those long term projects as you can see.
@marcelorosi7218
@marcelorosi7218 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, im Marcelo from Argentina, I have 2 Pucaras 1/48, are interested? please contact me Whatsapp +54 9 11 21640256. Regards
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 4 жыл бұрын
What kits (manufacturer) do you have in 1/48?
@hrtpaul
@hrtpaul 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcelorosi7218 Which kit is it mate?
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, just saw this comment. The Pucara in this video is scratchbuilt in 1/32 scale.
@Nansen1981
@Nansen1981 Ай бұрын
A kit is not a scratch built model. Otherwise good video.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels Ай бұрын
Not really sure what you mean in the comment as the 1/32 Pucara that I referred to ask scratch built is indeed from scratch. The Spitfire "mule" I was using to show the demo certainly is from a kit and I don't think I referred to it as scratch built. I do appreciate the comment, was just confused a little. Cheers!
@monoped8437
@monoped8437 3 жыл бұрын
your voice sounds like billy bob thornton
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha...I must admit that this is a first :)
@raymondmckay3237
@raymondmckay3237 3 жыл бұрын
3 hours later
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
True, takes some time, that's for sure. But I have been told that good things come to those that wait...haha. Cheers!
@DougHinVA
@DougHinVA 3 жыл бұрын
any common-sense modeller uses an X-acto knife to start removing the backing from an adhesive sheet... not a thumb!
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha....sometimes common sense goes out the window when you start making videos. Good thing I had a knife handy or I would have never gotten the backing off.
@billthecat129
@billthecat129 3 жыл бұрын
@doug h... why dont you show all your common sense techniques on YOUR video...consider reading the "man in the arena" prior to making such comments.
@michaelhollister7932
@michaelhollister7932 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea, but I just use "Bare Metal Foil."
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
That's good stuff too but I kind of like this "flight metal" stuff better than bare metal foil. Just personal preference, though.
@michaelhollister7932
@michaelhollister7932 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels How much is the Flight Metal stuff? It would be worth it if cheaper by the roll than one sheet of BMF. BFM is expensive for what you get. But, I only occasionally do a an all-metal aircraft project anyway. Thanks!
@Gearhead-en8dz
@Gearhead-en8dz 3 жыл бұрын
HVAC foil tape is cheaper by the roll
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gearhead-en8dz It is cheaper for sure. I've used it with some success. It's a bit thicker than some of the other products and the adhesive is a little gummy and it sometimes comes off when you trim a small piece. Definitely an option, though, especially for small sections.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhollister7932 Here's the link to the stuff if you want to check it out: form.jotform.us/63326435239154 BMF is pricey for what you get but it's a good bit thinner than the flite metal and may be better for some applications.
@keithfoster6000
@keithfoster6000 3 жыл бұрын
Done that 35 years ago
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
I just didn't have my channel up 35 years ago...haha
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that, Harald. Dropping the betamax....nice :)
@ponderin
@ponderin 3 жыл бұрын
But if you don't paint it 🤑
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Even better!!!
@ponderin
@ponderin 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels I love the old shiny plans lol spend more time at the air force museum than any 25 yr old should lol
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@ponderin That's the way to do it and helps keep the 25 year old man out of trouble...haha. Cheers!
@marvinmartinsYT
@marvinmartinsYT 3 жыл бұрын
Aluminium. Aluminium. Notice the spelling. Sounds exactly that way as well.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Time for me to go back to phonics :)
@davidbostock6089
@davidbostock6089 3 жыл бұрын
American word, misspelled and mispronounced by English to be consistent with their other mistakes.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbostock6089 Hahaha...made me laugh a little.
@marvinmartinsYT
@marvinmartinsYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels Just being an Aussie lol.
@marvinmartinsYT
@marvinmartinsYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbostock6089 Lol.
@tboy630
@tboy630 3 жыл бұрын
This is not a "scratch" build. A scratch build is when you fabricate all the parts yourself. The model shown here is a "kit".
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
The IA-58 Pucara is scratch built. It is 1/32 scale and I have built all the parts myself. Not sure what makes you think it is a kit.
@stuartk3498
@stuartk3498 3 жыл бұрын
Stop biting your finger nails 😀
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Best comment and advice I've heard...haha.
@alec_f1
@alec_f1 3 жыл бұрын
The texture is not acceptable to me.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, I understand, I think. Would be good to understand a little more about what is not acceptable but I understand that people like to work with different materials in our hobby. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@alec_f1
@alec_f1 3 жыл бұрын
I mean that those wrinkles don't work on a surface that's supposed to be smooth. It adds an unrealistic texture painted or unpainted. You can tell from a mile away in both shots even though they are not close-ups, they still show that bumpy texture. I understand you want the effect of a raised panel, but you sacrificed much more in return for a wrinkly, bumpy, unrealistic surface.
@alec_f1
@alec_f1 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels I was looking specifically for a way to lay down foil and not get that texture.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to avoid texture, you might just want to skip foil and go with metal paint. Part of the fun (and maybe problem) with using real metal is that it has a metal texture. Have you tried Bare Metal Foil? It's much thinner and may not have as much of the texture you don't like.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Understand. Keep in mind, this was a "quick tip" so I didn't spend too much time burnishing the metal down to smooth it out. You can sand the metal and then polish it to make it smooth. But I recognize that the look is certainly not for everyone.
@padelisgk8126
@padelisgk8126 3 жыл бұрын
Quick tips , pro results? Get a new tool model.... I want to build a model...not make one ....
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...obviously the scratchbuilt 1/32 Pucara was not the "quick tip" but served as a demo of what can be done with the Aluminum Flite Metal on mainstream kits. Happy Modeling!
@eskayler66
@eskayler66 3 жыл бұрын
SCRATCH BUILT? That's a plastic model
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
The Pucara is scratchbuilt. The Spitfire in the video is a 1/32 PCM plastic model.
@eskayler66
@eskayler66 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSModels You are good then, great job.
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
@@eskayler66 Thanks!
@tophatvideosinc.5858
@tophatvideosinc.5858 3 жыл бұрын
Well show us the whole fucking thing
@FlyingSModels
@FlyingSModels 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to show a "quick tip", not a whole process with a long video. But you are right, it maybe good to see a final result.
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