Alvin Robertson: The FORGOTTEN DEFENSIVE STAR lost between George Gervin and David Robinson | FPP

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Arguably the most forgotten player of the legendary 1984 NBA Draft, he was selected with the 7th overall pick by the San Antonio Spurs, just after guys like Hakeem Olajuwon, Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley were off the board, and 10 picks before John Stockton. He was a young player joining a veteran Spurs team who had underachieved since joining the NBA in 1977. They were led by their aging Superstar George Gervin and Artis Gilmore, but after a Gervin trade and injuries to other key players, it would be Alvin Robertson’s team going into his second season. And he would respond by becoming an all-star, an all-NBA player, defensive player of the year and the inaugural winner of the NBA Most Improved Player award, and his incredible season included him becoming the first and only player to record at least 300 steals in a season and set the record for season steal average. He would spend a few more years in San Antonio playing for bad teams, before they finally welcomed their superstar rookie David Robinson going into 1990. But as he came in Robertson was out as he would be traded to Milwaukee for a more clean cut Terry Cummings. As a Milwaukee Buck, Roberstson continued his elite defensive play alongside Jay Humphries and playing with guys like Ricky Pierce, Dale Ellis and Moses Malone; and although he would have his first and only winning seasons in Milwaukee, he would still never get out of the first round. Back issues caught up to him in 1992 and he was traded to the Pistons halfway through the 1993 season, and it was during his back rehabilitation for over two years that we start having consistent run-ins with the law which severely affected his image. He would return for a comeback season with the expansion Toronto Raptors, and after the ’96 season he would be done in the NBA. His name and life would essentially be ruined after his time in the NBA due to his own mistakes, but also him being accused and charged with a horrible crime which ended up being a made up story, but the damage had been done and the NBA continues to leave him out of most conversations, and although he made his mistakes, he still is one of the greatest defensive players of all time.
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@hennylo68
@hennylo68 9 ай бұрын
He's actually 1 of 6 guards, not 1 of 5 to win DPOY. Marcus Smart won it last year and became number 6. But nonetheless a dope video. Definitely one of my favorite guards. Incredible monster on defense. His record steals season will never be broken.
@ForgottenPlayerProfiles
@ForgottenPlayerProfiles 9 ай бұрын
Oh damn you're right
@stop.juststop
@stop.juststop 9 ай бұрын
@@ForgottenPlayerProfilesMad respect for pinning the comment.
@travispavich1694
@travispavich1694 9 ай бұрын
One of the most underrated and not talked about guards of the 1980’s.
@user-jw5qj8kv2y
@user-jw5qj8kv2y 9 ай бұрын
Otis Thorpe, Kevin Willis, Michael Cage, Sam Perkins and Alvin Robertson are underrated stars who went pro in the 1984 NBA Draft. They were very strong NBA players during their active days.
@lukesmith9692
@lukesmith9692 9 ай бұрын
Why Cage? He was okay as a rebounder
@KZA518
@KZA518 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t call sam Perkins a star.. he had a few seasons where he put up fringe all star numbers then became a good starter and role player.. said with Kevin Willis
@OrionOodama
@OrionOodama 8 ай бұрын
Although Michael Cage and Sam Perkins didn't made it to annual All-Star (Kevin Willis and Otis Thorpe were one-timers), they were known for longevity and respectable careers. Cage was a one-time league's leading rebounder and "iron man", but also has the dubious record of less than one assist and never made a three-pointer. Perkins could hold a curse-like record in appearing in three (3) NBA Finals with three different teams, and all of them were beaten by Phil Jackson-led squads.
@ryansack5198
@ryansack5198 7 ай бұрын
@@KZA518 Willis & Perkins were both very very good starters for a decent stretch. Perkins could have been an all-star in 91-92 as a Laker. Willis was still a very productive starter into his mid 30's, averaging 16 & 8.5 for the 97-98 Rockets at age 35.
@KZA518
@KZA518 7 ай бұрын
@ryansack5198 there's a difference between really good starter and a star.. I literally Said they each had a stretch of a few years of putting up fringe all star numbers then were good starters then role players...
@Dantana773
@Dantana773 9 ай бұрын
Alvin Robertson is Very much an under rated forgotten player. salute and much respect to Him.
@lordgodspeed1539
@lordgodspeed1539 9 ай бұрын
I am a huge fan of Alvin Robertson.... I had fashioned my defensive game behind his.
@55cleon
@55cleon 9 ай бұрын
Alvin Robertson Is Probably The Most Naturally Strong Guard To Ever Play...S.T.R.O.N.G👌🏿!!
@deebrown4744
@deebrown4744 9 ай бұрын
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!
@josephhill7890
@josephhill7890 9 ай бұрын
Jason Richardson, Corey magette, Elton brand ,Antwan Jamison, nick anderson
@jsteed10
@jsteed10 9 ай бұрын
Last two have been defensive masterminds. Mookie Blaylock to continue this defensive streak. Mr. Pearl Jam himself.
@mookeychase0907
@mookeychase0907 9 ай бұрын
That Arkansas backcourt was super tough, Darrell had a nice pro career also. I would love to see him guard some of these guys in the league today, good defender with good team D equals puttin handcuffs on somebody… Alvin Robertson is as unsung as any NBA player ever…
@QuietRefl4378
@QuietRefl4378 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reminder. I miss defense.
@talan2861
@talan2861 9 ай бұрын
you should totally do grant long hes a heat legend, played for a bunch of teams but his time on the heat was good considering he was the second player drafted by the heat (first year of the heat second round) and was really good for two seasons
@Digital_Dude2000
@Digital_Dude2000 9 ай бұрын
Do Bob Love, one of the very first All-Stars for the Chicago Bulls in the decade before Michael Jordan, that team was very solid
@michaelrobinson540
@michaelrobinson540 9 ай бұрын
Alvin Robertson's name was brought up by Reggie Miller on "Open Court" years ago, regarding him as a "tough guy." That's the only time I've heard his name brought up.
@zeke3388
@zeke3388 9 ай бұрын
One of the best 2 way players to ever play the game. Actually gave MJ and Bulls problems...🤔
@ScoKnows
@ScoKnows 9 ай бұрын
Imagine averaging 3 steals, finishing 4th in DPOY behind only 1 guard ….And still being all defensive 2ND team
@Crimendorsement
@Crimendorsement 6 ай бұрын
Let it also be known that he had THREE more Triple Doubles with either 7 or 8 steals. He was 8 total steals away from FOUR Quadruple Doubles. An absolute monster on the court. Truly LOVED watching him play for MKE. In the modern NBA media landscape, that focuses primarily on stats and drama, he'd be a headline story every night.
@tdizzle7812
@tdizzle7812 9 ай бұрын
I was excited as a young kid when robertson came to detroit in early 90s
@talan2861
@talan2861 9 ай бұрын
i was just looking at this guys page on basketball reference the other day and i refresh my youtube to see this great timing
@Teddy42O
@Teddy42O 9 ай бұрын
Micheal Adams next!!! he was a scoring machine
@KZA518
@KZA518 9 ай бұрын
Always thought he was crazy underrated
@powerful-knowledge77
@powerful-knowledge77 9 ай бұрын
I like your delivery, it's very reflective
@pattrell5257
@pattrell5257 8 ай бұрын
With his steals and ability to pass, he could be a backup on the Spurs all-time team as PG. Because, you have Parker(true PG that got a lot better as his career progressed into his prime) and Gervin to start, Robertson and Ginobili(on the all-time guard list); imagine that quadruple feature on that all-time team lacing em up...10 steals?!?! Multiple times! I did not think that was possible once versus NBA talent!
@astrowerm
@astrowerm 9 ай бұрын
I love this channel man, thank you and keep up the great work!
@rdavkid
@rdavkid 8 ай бұрын
I've probably been a sub for like 2 months but I have seen almost all of your video. You and Basketball Time Machine has some of the BEST basketball content on the planet!!!!
@camerenrandi
@camerenrandi 9 ай бұрын
great content........I can definitely say that he always played hard for the full 48mins
@devondawkins5492
@devondawkins5492 9 ай бұрын
Alvin Robertson on the all time spurs with Kawhi, TD & D Admiral would be tough ASF to score on
@michaelbetts8379
@michaelbetts8379 9 ай бұрын
Facts
@isiahbraun8704
@isiahbraun8704 9 ай бұрын
Skid u da analysis the year 4 dis one.serverly underrated player thanks bro
@ellieeliandelliot7439
@ellieeliandelliot7439 9 ай бұрын
Wow. Great for you to make this. 2 of my request are made (KJ was the first)!
@tdizzle7812
@tdizzle7812 9 ай бұрын
Great channel
@J_Ru31352
@J_Ru31352 7 ай бұрын
How about doing one on recent Hall of Fame guard Sidney Moncrief starring on the 1980s Bucks, then regarded for one of the games most all around players along with Magic, Bird, and Dr. J., prior to Michael Jordan entering the league.
@bananaman5668
@bananaman5668 2 ай бұрын
Despite the obvious historical dominance of the Center position over the DPOY. 5 of the first 6 ever winners of the award went to Guards. Robertson played in an NBA that had Sydney Moncrief, Dennis Johnson, Joe Dumars, Michael Jordan, and Michael Cooper who pretty much constitute HALF of the top 10 Greatest Defensive Guards ever. The 80s were definitely the best era in NBA history for Defensive Guards. And yet Robertson was among the ones that shined the brightest on Defense during that era.
@WARS187
@WARS187 9 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this 1 🔥
@streetsweeper8831
@streetsweeper8831 9 ай бұрын
Yooooo been waiting on this
@user-gl2pc2jc1v
@user-gl2pc2jc1v 4 ай бұрын
Great job man! Great channel!
@Iamrxch3
@Iamrxch3 9 ай бұрын
Maybe the best defensive guard ever. You should do Jeff Teague
@eugenedantzler4485
@eugenedantzler4485 9 ай бұрын
Connie Hawkins aka The Hawk!!!!
@lashgoshotwheels1127
@lashgoshotwheels1127 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@seancamp2703
@seancamp2703 4 ай бұрын
You need to do a episode on Paul Pressey also. His game was so smooth.
@3timez
@3timez 9 ай бұрын
Can you do Gerald Wallace? The Charlotte Bobcats only homegrown star. Probably the Bobcats best player ever unless you count Kemba Walker.
@zacflemo1994
@zacflemo1994 9 ай бұрын
I have mentioned this, he did a video on Al Jefferson, but wrote in the title, *the only bobcats all nba player* which In fact was cap, as Crash was 1st team all nba defence in 09-10
@YpsitheFlintsider
@YpsitheFlintsider 9 ай бұрын
@@zacflemo1994 I assume all NBA is not referring to the defensive one.
@zacflemo1994
@zacflemo1994 9 ай бұрын
@@YpsitheFlintsider he was all nba defencive 1st team, imo on par with all nba.
@Mr.PR2000
@Mr.PR2000 9 ай бұрын
Add Kevin Martin to the list 💯🔥 Subbed!
@harlemworldown
@harlemworldown 9 ай бұрын
For my Lakers Vs Celtics on the sega genesis knows how much of a problem he was…but we lost him after Shaq punched him in in 1994😂😂
@yungholsch343
@yungholsch343 9 ай бұрын
Sleepy Floyd next Plz
@jasonic-ks2tm
@jasonic-ks2tm 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I was wondering when you was gonna get around to him. Also you mentioned Terry Cummings hmmm
@goodbboyjonny9079
@goodbboyjonny9079 9 ай бұрын
Sadly people just remember him for fighting Shaq unfortunately
@marcusleary8571
@marcusleary8571 9 ай бұрын
I hope you do one on Ron Harper
@alectapia1518
@alectapia1518 9 ай бұрын
Second 🥈 that notion 🎶
@jamoney8812
@jamoney8812 9 ай бұрын
Great video.Bucks bout win championship this year we got Dame 🏆 🦌🦌
@chriswahl4139
@chriswahl4139 9 ай бұрын
a bit strange seeing someone other than Duncan wearing 21 for the Spurs
@JMDogg
@JMDogg 5 ай бұрын
They also had Dominique Wilkins wear that number for them.
@MistaP13
@MistaP13 9 ай бұрын
Winning shouldn’t be placed on individual players like that. It’s a team game so if the player is doing what they’re supposed to then it’s the team that should get majority of the blame.🤔🤷🏽‍♂️
@konstantinkoverchenko9587
@konstantinkoverchenko9587 9 ай бұрын
I figured dude was really good. He had a signature move on the early EA basketball games on the sega genesis. 🤨
@borntokilldiaz
@borntokilldiaz 9 ай бұрын
need that Xavier Mcdaniel video🔥
@CrimsonUniverse22
@CrimsonUniverse22 3 ай бұрын
My all time Spurs team: PG: Alvin Robertson SG: George Gervin SF: Kawhi Leonard PF: Tim Duncan C: Victor Wembanyama Yeah, I have Wemby over Robinson. I’m sorry, I’ve seen enough from Wemby already. He’s doing things 20 year old rookies shouldn’t be doing, and he’s doing them averaging under 30 minutes. He’s a defensive enforcer as a rookie already rivaling PEAK Duncan and peak Robinson. And Robertson over Tony Parker. Alvin, obviously, brings elite defense. And he’s a bigger guy too, at 6’4. Can easily switch onto shooting guards. Alvin wouldn’t need much worry about scoring, he can set up and dish it out to the other four, so he can put more energy into lockdown defense. This team has elite scoring, elite shooting, front court dominance on both ends of the floor (particularly shot blocking), and decent level passing. 4/5 are elite defenders (not just GOOD defenders, but DPOY level defense). Alvin and Kawhi both can steal like crazy. Duncan and Wemby both block like crazy. Alvin is 6’4, George and Kawhi are both 6’7, and then 6’11 Tim and 7’4 Wemby. Thats a big team. This Spurs team could hang with any all-time team from any franchise.
@jasonic-ks2tm
@jasonic-ks2tm 9 ай бұрын
As time goes by Drexler has been forgotten! Was called west coast Jordan
@OnlyBuilt4FinancialContracts
@OnlyBuilt4FinancialContracts 9 ай бұрын
By Who? People born after 2010?
@BigSlimeeTello414
@BigSlimeeTello414 9 ай бұрын
This is my lil bro pops Elgin Cook yall look his son up hes from milwaukee like me.... #414 He's Playing basketball overseas now
@chriswahl4139
@chriswahl4139 9 ай бұрын
18:57, Sprewell Carlesimo four years early
@common_wolf
@common_wolf 9 ай бұрын
Basketball history channel.
@koreshyahubenmoshe-ciro5695
@koreshyahubenmoshe-ciro5695 9 ай бұрын
Future videos: Scott skyles, Nick Anderson, Tyrone Hill, Rex chapman
@justinallen3080
@justinallen3080 9 ай бұрын
Wassup wit a Sprewell episode 8️⃣🔶🔷
@kishahngood5825
@kishahngood5825 9 ай бұрын
Can you do deron Williams bro
@joebain7313
@joebain7313 9 ай бұрын
so this where sprewell get the choke hold from...😂
@bojanjovicic1723
@bojanjovicic1723 9 ай бұрын
male one about Kenyon Martin!!!
@s.tavares3257
@s.tavares3257 9 ай бұрын
He was the only non center to record a quadruple double.
@mdronbray7
@mdronbray7 9 ай бұрын
david wingate next right?
@irep340v.i._state_of_mind2
@irep340v.i._state_of_mind2 9 ай бұрын
He is on the lost of less than a handful of players to finish with a quadruple double
@user-be7tc2bd6e
@user-be7tc2bd6e 9 ай бұрын
Didn't Shaq POP Robertson up side his head with a closed-FIST ??? I remember seeing a clip of this.
@The1stHubStyle
@The1stHubStyle 8 ай бұрын
Alvin Robertson should be in the H.O.F. He was a way better defensive player than Dennis Rodman
@WaterBottle302
@WaterBottle302 9 ай бұрын
Andre Miller next!
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 8 ай бұрын
Oscar Robinson next
@thomasbooker1996
@thomasbooker1996 9 ай бұрын
Hey small little girl could u please do Orland Woolridge thank u very much.
@EFunkRock
@EFunkRock 9 ай бұрын
Is he in the pro basketball hall of fame?
@leonzaduncan2438
@leonzaduncan2438 9 ай бұрын
Didn't Gervin Spurs make the conference finals like 4 times?
@chrischance1063
@chrischance1063 9 ай бұрын
How's he not top 3 all time with all those damn stls?!! Haha #OHIO legend
@rayzrealm
@rayzrealm 9 ай бұрын
*#GOSPURS*
@victorvelez8144
@victorvelez8144 9 ай бұрын
Tom Chambers Dale Ellis Terry Cummings
@jaybrown7811
@jaybrown7811 9 ай бұрын
Do malik Sealy
@RoyPage1970
@RoyPage1970 26 күн бұрын
The 1984 draft is the best draft in NBA history the 96 draft doesn't even come anywhere remotely close Bryant was never ever on Jordan's level
@oshbKrown400
@oshbKrown400 9 ай бұрын
Sheron wright
@ryansack5198
@ryansack5198 7 ай бұрын
Walter Berry averaged 17 ppg then only spent 1 more year in the NBA.
@aleksthegreat4130
@aleksthegreat4130 7 ай бұрын
He made a great career in Europe.
@vatoloco6738
@vatoloco6738 5 ай бұрын
Nate Robinson…??
@92alpha13
@92alpha13 9 ай бұрын
Lindsey Hunter!
@streetsweeper8831
@streetsweeper8831 9 ай бұрын
Time for sidney moncrief
@michaelallen8112
@michaelallen8112 6 ай бұрын
Shaq up there fighting his Masonic brotha
@RoyPage1970
@RoyPage1970 26 күн бұрын
This dude was an absolute thief when he played for the Spurs and bucks
@TheHomeman
@TheHomeman 9 ай бұрын
Larry brown was a bum coach who would pick a player to vilify to try to get the team to rally around to ostracize and blame for his average coaching. This man Reggie Miller Allen Iverson Stephon Marbury Rasheed Wallace, the pistons were going to win that year no matter who their coach was, he was given a complete team.
@FuShengAlex
@FuShengAlex 5 ай бұрын
U crazy.....i remember in 93 my favorite Rockets barely scraped by the Clippers. He put the full court press on us. You know how hard it was to make.....the Clippers a respectful playoff team in the 90s lol? Brown could coach!
@youtuber3328
@youtuber3328 5 ай бұрын
for me these interests/hobbies did do and will go in this EXACT order #1 hakeem olajuwon #2 moses malone and #3 TIED university of houston and rockets
@mikeonthemccomedy2465
@mikeonthemccomedy2465 9 ай бұрын
ALVIN ROBINSON WAS TOUGH! HE HAD A WESTBROOK KIND OF MOTOR!! GREAT VIDEO!
@AnthonyRobinson-dc3pq
@AnthonyRobinson-dc3pq 4 ай бұрын
I remember Alvin locking up magic the refs called two quick fouls and got him off magic
@youlovechika
@youlovechika 3 ай бұрын
the blueprint of a spurs player🫡
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