Am I Quitting Beat Saber?

[@Naysy]

Do I have your permission? 🥺 What games would you like to see?

[@MS29K_YT]

Just take the best action you think you need :] 💙

[@TSBthesweatbanners]

Scarybaboon!!!

[@chrisstyles4630]

Have you seen a doctor? You may need some surgery for shoulders hopefully not get well soon

[@IanVR_GTAG]

More gorilla tag plsssss

[@BtcHyperr]

@@TSBthesweatbannersyes, but gorilla tag

[@chrisstyles4630]

You're health is more important than beat saber what ever games you want to post is upto you after all its You're channel we will keep supporting you regardless

[@Spyllit]

i wish i thought my health was more important than beat saber

[@itsmenasa57]

I feel the same

[@fizzyfrys]

Your*

[@absent_portion]

That is.

[@vamperovr8555]

I play it to help my health

[@VirtualCrawfish]

I am 47 and been playing for some time. I had to go to physical therapy for something else and asked about what to do for helping me with the pain from Beat Saber. The answer was lots of stretching... LOTS of stretching. This has reduced, but not eliminated the amount of nagging aches and pains. Having a professional show me exercises and stretches has helped. I also learned a lot about recovery time and what happens when you have repetitive movements that cause issues. Also Banana!

[@absent_portion]

Rest is important. Hard lesson.

[@HerrMau]

Can totally relate to that. I am currently on a forced break since 4 weeks since my wrists got worse up to a point everything just hurt. I was playing Beat Saber for 6 months daily with an average time of more than 1 hour per day, playing (fast) Expert+ songs after around 3 months gradually playing faster and faster songs. I bought a Quest 3 now in hopes that half the controller weight vs. the Valve Index controllers helps but seeing you struggle as well gives me thoughts that I might actually need to reduce my constant play times as well. Which sucks since I completely changed my personality and diet after starting playing Beat Saber (lost 26kg) so I really hope I can keep this very precious hobby as alive as possible.

[@cake_vr]

So relatable 😢 Except it’s wrists and sometimes knees for me instead of neck and shoulders. I think the vast majority of your viewers will be happy watching you play other VR games since you’ve got the passion and personality 😄 You got this!! 🔥🔥

[@RobsBackyardBBQ]

Play all the games 🙂🍌

[@Keith_Untitled]

That notification gave me a heart attack

[@OliverOreilly-v2e]

SAME CL

[@iamhanakosbrother2910]

@@Keith_Untitled me too bro

[@TheLocalNumNum]

😐

[@valeriasalcedo9882]

Me too

[@Drabaz88]

I totally get the "I love editing it myself" It's work and time consuming but it's part of the process I love when I create something I'm proud of.

[@Evanz111]

Was really happy to catch your Beat Saber live stream! I’ve heard about a lot of injuries caused by Beat Saber, so I hope you’re able to put your health first whilst still enjoying your hobby!

[@Tingman]

Variety content ftw! 🍌 Hope your health picks up soon!

[@PrincessNybor]

I’ve been loving all the shorts on different games, so I’m absolutely here for longer form content! Bring it! 🎉

[@nuchbutter]

Hi, Naysy. I'm 60 now, and have tweaked myself numerous times from all the motocross, mountain biking, surfing, skiing and snowboarding, and skateboarding that I've done since I was a wee lad. About a year ago, an old motocross injury to my right shoulder flared up so bad that I could barely even lift a fork at the dinner table. At the time, I hadn't touched Beat Saber in a couple of years. All the home remedy therapy exercises I then tried were excruciating. So I decided to give Beat Saber a go. At first, I would get up before dawn to do all my favorite modded custom maps (I'm old, so mostly '80s Alternative) on Easy. Starting with only two or three songs, I worked up to 45 minutes, then an hour at lower difficulty over a few days. I slowly progressed from there, working up to a pretty decent level, better even than I had previously achieved. After a couple of months, my shoulder got to about 95%. I'm back racing motocross, can throw a ball again, and feeling young. Bottom line, variety of movement, patience, and staying just under my limit brought an end to the pain from that injury.

[@sparemobius7430]

basically rehab at home without possibly re injuring by going too hard, pretty cool that worked for you. Love to hear the use of VR for more than just gaming.

[@IlDv4]

from a young lass, your badass ! am glad it worked out for you

[@tyrannicpuppy]

I've only recently found your stuff lately because I finally bought a PSVR2 to go with my PS5 and really gotten into Beat Saber (closing in on a day played in the past month), so was looking into tips and tricks. And with the adaptor coming out this week, I've even grabbed some new games on Steam to try out using in on my PC (finally get to try Half-Life Alyx and Taskmaster VR). So I would very happily check out some content re: other things than Beat Saber from you. Those little arrows are why I found your channel, but the personality is why I have stuck around.

[@NotAgnor]

I’d recommend Wanderer: The Fragments of Fate for a great story game with cool visuals, not out yet but releasing soon!

[@efferkah]

Naysy, you're such a gem, and I'm a sub not only because of your Beat Saber videos (even though, yes, they're a big part of your channel), but for the whole content you give us. I'm a big fan of VR in general, and you often make videos about VR discoveries and stuff ... so even if you can't make as much Beat Saber videos as you used to, it'll still be entertaining and interesting. Your whole vibe is awesome, and I couldn't care less about the specific game you play or talk about! Most important thing is you take care of yourself; don't get hurt! D:

[@piku13]

Health is important! Keep on it. I started Beat Saber as therapy after I tore my rotator cuff. And it did get better, but it's not my best arm and gotta be sure not to over do it. If you find a good physical therapist, they might recommend some exercises to improve the support muscles that can relieve the strain on the trouble ones.

[@TobyJWalter]

Try exploring creative games, Arkio, RecRoom, Yeeps, Gravity Sketch, and there are some Digital Painting games as well!

[@tobiasmyers3505]

Yeah. Vermillion VR is a total oil painting simulator. It has a lot of functions that take some learning and you can blend millions of colors and export paintings at 4K or 8K. You can sell that art to a magazine or billboard, etc. Most people who want to be professional painting artists would do well to master this game. Oil paints, canvases, brushes, etc; are super expensive. Drill on this simulator 10,000 hours, then buy $10,000 of real paint equipment.

[@TaroniaYT]

Thanks for the update Naysy! 😁 If you are looking for permission or feedback, I'd say it's your channel, it's your right to post what you would like to create, if you want to expand to other VR games in the mix to better utilise the equipment you have, and what you would like to share in other games, go for it! I'm sure community you have formed so far will still be supportive of what you decide 🙂 There are benefits to posting more variety content, allows a wider audience to see what you are up to, experience what you have experienced in all different forms, compared to channels focusing on one game or style of video where both the content and audience who engage are limited to just that one subject. I look forward to seeing what you have for us next! Stay safe, stay well! And especially take good care of your health! Health comes first over everything! 🏥

[@FrontwaysLarry]

Dang, as someone with snapping scapula (shoulder blades hitting against your rib cage) I totally understand certain movements leading to terrible flare ups like that. It's tough to just handle the incessant discomfort or pain. Hope you feel better and figure out what winds up helping you the best!

[@h3rmesactual]

I've recently heard of a great VR mod for Cyberpunk 2077, and it's one where it's recommended you play sitting down so it won't mess with your neck and shoulders.

[@tobiasmyers3505]

A lot of people say it is the best VR experience. We can have active VR games and sit down controller games. You can play inactive games for hours and be immersed.

[@phonokilleddigitalstar]

I hurt my shoulder playing Beat Saber when it first came on on the PS VP (1). It was around the end of Nov. a few years ago, I had just got it to start feeling more normal, and then on Christmas Eve I was running around... then fell down a short flight of stairs. I still have no clue what I did my I must have hyper extended my shoulder on the right side. I waited it about a 3-4 or maybe a few days after New Years even before going to a quick care when my hand went numb. They were the only ones who listened to me but I then spent 3-4 years trying to get an MRI or anything. They just kept sending me to PT and nothing was working. I was doing yoga that I put together for myself when during a shoulder opening stretch there was a huge pop and my right shoulder, that I couldn't fully open right, fell to the ground. Ever since then it has felt normal! I'm just glad that it sounds as if your doctor's are actually listening to you. I hope that you find a healthy way of dealing with it as the 3-4 years I went through was hell. I just remember getting shooting pain that went to my knucks... I swear I was turning into Wolverine that is how bad the pain was. I couldn't even sit at a computer not alone write.

[@Not_Dead_Yet]

I have a lot of neck issues (had 2 herniated discs over the last 10 yrs and a ton of arthritis), so from someone that understands - take care of yourself. There are things you can do to help. PT exercises were a great help. Also moving your monitors up so that your neck is in a neutral position and a supportive chair so that your posture is great. I just got VR this year after wanting one for years. I have loved Beat Saber since the first time I tried it years ago, but I can't play long due to my neck. If I can get an hour session in, that's fantastic, but most days about 30 mins is what I can handle. Do what works for you. Good luck!!!

[@sumphoo]

Dude , you cannot make them happy. I started watching and took my first steps into vr after seeing one or five of your videos about Bear Saber many years ago. Your willingness to fail and learn or even when to quit is real. Whatever you choose, you will find friends, fans, and polite weirdos old and new there. You are fun, and fun to have fun with. We all have to stop playing the games game all the time, sometimes. Except for kids whose parents met in WoW, or EverQuest; I had a guilty drop his kid at his computer and task me with babysitting him in game. Worst job ever! Cheers

[@sumphoo]

My new mobile has weird ideas of auto correction.

[@aqueela1981]

Banana! Your health is more important then BeatSaber Naysy. It's about having fun and being in pain isn't fun. I know that from experience. At one point I suffered a heel spur, tennis elbow and an inflammation in my shoulder from playing BeatSaber and SynthRiders too fanatically. As a result, I was not allowed to play for a while and had to take painkillers and anti-inflammatories. Since then I have also been using a brace for my elbow to help the muscles and tendons recover. The heel spur has now recovered, but the tennis elbow has not yet completely recovered. After playing a lot of BeatSaber again, the pain in my elbow and shoulder get worse, so I now alternate it more with SynthRiders. I have less trouble with my elbow and shoulder when playing SynthRiders. So I would also like to see some more SynthRiders and other dance games. Or other games where you move irl, since I can't fully stand VR. If I move in-game, but not irl, I quickly get nauseous unfortunately. So if you have any tips, I'd love to hear them. As always, thanks for your efforts and all the fun videos. P.S.: did the doctors also do bloodwork and check your blood inflammatory values? And it might indeed be that for now 2 hours of BeatSaber is just too much for your shoulder and it's just overtaxed. If that goes on too long, it can really get bad. So please look out for yourself and don't feel obligated to just make BeatSaber vids. There's indeed much more out there that might be less taxing on your shoulder, so it can rest up and heal up.

[@TahvoStudio]

Wishing you the best in your health and future work.

[@cubeskywalker4953]

I admit that your Beat Saber videos are what made me subscribe to your channel in the first place, but I also enjoy your other videos. Your health is more important than constant Beat Saber videos. On a side note, I really respect you for editing your own videos! And also BANANA 🍌

[@AlwaysStreams]

That's really unfortunate, hopefully they sort something. Content creation can be difficult even when you're healthy =/ I think what could be cool is a series where you play the most disliked VR games, or hardest and so on. The extremes seem to get decent views and they're really interesting as a viewer

[@williamrodrigosp]

I wish you a good recovery and I have been following your videos for at least a year and who knows, maybe one day I will reach your feet. Congratulations on the videos and for overcoming!

[@terrylyons6210]

I found playing with the controller offsets in Beat Saber helped with shoulder, neck and back pain. I have mine with a X axis rotation of 38deg (like a pistol grip)

[@alexpowerovich]

I have the same issues, what helps me the best is an inversion table. I do 9 min per day: 3 min at 45 degree, 3 min at 60 degree, and finally 3 min at 90 degree.

[@mikelastname]

@naysy, watch out for repetitive strain injury -don't let it get worse as it is much harder to come back from. I use TENS a lot in treating muscle aches and pains - I wonder if you can find a VR body shocker suit that treats your muscles as you play, or even a full VR massage "experience".

[@Gameralf21]

I have a few games you should try if you haven't already Stranger things vr its a really cool horror experience, Battle glide VR, and gorilla royale its quite like gorilla tag but u have to be the last one alive its quite fun

[@spidermonkeynr1]

I got similar problems and I have it for 23 years . 3 beatsaber maps and I know it's pain for days. I switched to synth and do the slower songs. What I can do is boombox for some reason that doesn't really hurt. Please set yourself on the first place before that pain gets so awful and you end up like me homebound.

[@r8cers]

I'm really relieved I'm not the only one 😌 every time I'm editing I get LOTS of bad neck pain hope you get better though

[@Totorus]

Health first always, and for the games, variety is always good!

[@annderanleau8529]

I understand not being able to play beat saber. Some years ago I started playing on PlayStation 4. I am disabled. At 1st it was good exercise for me. Then it got to the point where it hurt & I was out of breath. I was never really that good, but I enjoyed playing. It got to the point where I couldn't play at all. I have enjoyed watching your videos, but with that being said get everything looked at. You're health is more important than anything else. I'm behind you with whatever you want to do. You go girl!!!

[@Queen.Laqueefah]

Whoa! That title scared me! lol. I'd love to see more VR content! And I totally get the pains involved with beat saber. I've definitely felt them. Take care of yourself! 💙

[@alexthegameaddict5798]

Here are some suggestions on what you should do: - Make vlogs - Interview bytesy - Make content for all the games you’re willing to show off, even a video on that cat game - Make 2 videos with LSToast, the first one should be of you interviewing him then the next one should be you 1v1ing him

[@Skeeva007]

I hope the pain goes away! Keep up the awesome work! We support you no matter what kinds of games you cover

[@4thhorseman390]

I’ve enjoyed watching a few of your Beat Saber videos over the past couple of years. This video just made me a subscriber. Looking forward to your variety content. Hope you feel better soon.

[@donnamaude1866]

You're a really engaging content creator no matter the subject, so go with what you love doing, the genres you love playing and try not to be too hard on yourself mentally and more so physically. They say variety is the spice of life x

[@alphaleigpyne]

I'm okay with Naysy playing other games for this platform. Beat Saber's still one of my favourite games I enjoy watching. It's okay to take a break from some VR games to look after yourself. Look after yourself and take care Naysy. Have a good week. Banana

[@Fredster1]

Sorry to hear that Naysy I hope that the doctors find whats wrong and get better soon.

[@Proudlion447]

Yeah I'm all for variety content! It helps me find other cool vr games! And I know how it is with shoulder pain, I've been dealing with it since last October. It really does get in the way of playing Beat Saber, but I'm hoping over time with enough PT I can play it again

[@lorsch.]

What has really helped me is bodyweight fitness / working out with bodyweight. Also obviously, only doing really hard tracks after 1+ hour of warming up and having lots of break days.

[@TinoManVR]

I really enjoy your reviews/gameplay videos of other games. I’d love more of it!

[@geesharp6637]

Holy banana. Thanks for the update. We will support whatever you do.

[@KathyBeatVR]

I hope you recover soon, your videos motivated me to try Beat Saber 💪🏻

[@danmarsh5949]

In other media, "creators" -- Writers, musicians, painters, sculptors, etc -- change as they learn more about their craft and also as commercial pressures change. One of my favorite authors spent most of the 1950s and 1960s writing children's books because that's what his publisher wanted from him. I see no reason why KZbin can't be different.

[@dragos240alt]

Try out Resonite if you haven't already! The community is super warm and welcoming and would love you there!

[@SuperLJGaming1]

Naysy, it's fine, we are behind you every step of the way. Thanks for the update. Can you play Fnaf VR?? Banana

[@SarkasticProjects]

I totally understand and support U. The same thing happened to me. Thank you so much for this video. Stopping the rumors is the best way. I also check like 10 games per week, just not ready to share. Soon I hope. Go do what U feel

[@BowsettesFury]

Quit if you want to. A lot of times you get demonetized from it anyways, that alone is enough reason. But seriously don’t hurt yourself.

[@mariueg]

I love you exploring more VR games. BeatSaber is the one I use most myself, but there are so many games and most of them aren't very good

[@AnaosPoffu]

idk if you've done it but i'd love to see you play the utility room! maybe some vrchat world exploration? PLEASE SHARE THE EXIT 8 VIDEO OMG. i loved the original sm, i need to see you play it!

[@rvdw1975]

Banana. The reason I look at your content is because of your enthusiasm and not because of a particular game. Although it is fun to see you swinging around, it makes me want to play Beat Saber too. Although I don’t have the hardware 🤔.

[@DownwithEA1]

I threw my back out during a custom song and I wish was able to play beat saber when I was younger. Getting old sucks and it hits you like a wall. Enjoy your 20s people. Naysy play or do whatever you find fun. Gather ideas from community sure but in the end what you have fun with will always be the best. Best of luck. Banana!

[@BearskiVR]

Hey Naysy. Is the chair that you're using in this video the one you use for editing? Get a chair with adjustable armrests. I had some severe upper shoulder/neck pain from my old office chair and a new one with "high" armrests gave my upper body the time it needed to recover. Good luck in your health. What games do you want to play? I'm sure your viewers would love to join you in multiplayer games. Dance dash may be a good choice with a focus on the feet songs. Have a good one! Good luck in the recovery!

[@JustFrozen77]

Take your time and hang in there. As for the other games, totally keep doing them! They are super fun to watch you react to them

[@AlvinSays]

I sub to you for your great personality. Beat saber is a way I found you and your videos. Do what you like and suitable for you at this moment. You can still beat saber occasionally and at a shorter duration or not if it’s hurting you. Stay cheery and healthy man! ❤

[@MrWicket_]

health is more important for sure. I haven't been able to play in a few months because of similar issues so best of luck figuring it out. take care and we'll be here for whatever you choose!

[@Space1issues]

I’m so sorry naysy. Hope you get better! ❤

[@livefreeordie3066]

AHHH Naysy we love you. Hope you feel beter and hope I get to play a couple of rounds of Beat Saber with you when you do.

[@KaleahVR]

Looking forward to your new videos!! I need to see some VR Fitness games 👀

[@lntcmusik]

I've learned quite a lot from your beat saber videos. I'd love to see more in future. But your health is more important of course :)

[@Cooperthepooper91]

Funny thing my shoulders start to hurt a lot like half way through power of the saber on expert, start to hurt like 50 seconds into final boss Chan on expert +, even hurt on firestarter on expert+. I feel ur pain.

[@djteague03]

Take care of your health Naysy! You go ahead and upload whatever you want. I'm certain your community will stick with you!

[@MillieTheImp]

You’re One of The people Who inspired me To Be a Beat saber content creator, I love your Channel and Me and You Share Tons of Similarities, Except you are way better than me.❤

[@chrisstyles4630]

I hope not but shoulders & neck may need some surgery fingers crossed you won't but hopefully your feeling better with these neck & shoulders issues 🙏❤️

[@andrewmtgx]

I've not used my quest 2 as much the past couple of months. stay well and healthy 💜

[@AntGodber]

Bananan! Hope you get to the bottom of what's triggering the pain and it can be fixed easily.

[@velocitasfortis]

I'd love to see other VR games of all types. With Sony releasing a PSVR2 PC adapter soon, it'll be great to see what else out there is going to be worth grabbing.

[@creeperstkoed6282]

I used to also have the same problem when I used to play a lot of beat saber, I definitely don't think having a brick strapped to your face really helps lol, I'd recommend looking into getting something like the bigscreen beyond (its expensive but the massive weight reduction should help) I wish I could afford one for myself but alas I'm broke lol. At the end of the day, your health is more important than any video game, do whatever you have to do in order to take care of yourself. Edit: Well I went and commented this and I just found out you already have a bigscreen beyond -.- guess thats what happens when you don't do you research before you comment :/

[@SplateexYooo]

It’s okay! Hope your shoulders will feel better

[@bluekiwi5854]

You should rest. It is ok if you take a break from Beat Saber. There are sooooo, soooooo many games to play, so don´t worry about that. In my opinion, it probably is better for you, to maaaayyyybe take a break from VR. I dont want to say that it would be nice, but it probably is the betterfor you and your physical health.

[@robertoliveira2062]

I hope you get back to normal soon. ❤🎉

[@LucMasse-pr5uu]

Taking good care of yourself is the more important thing. You may like the Alan Gordon's book "The Way Out: A Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven Approach to Healing Chronic Pain" This approach helped me a lot. I wish you a speedy recovery.

[@vanitygirlVR]

Banana!! I'm always rooting for ya.... you do you, and I'm sure it will be amazing as always! 💜

[@sebastiank7956]

Your health comes first. Play what you want. We'll all still be here for you!

[@HK28HK28]

Hi there! I would say that I do not watch your videos for beat saber, but rather for you (and your accent). Yes, the first video I watched was Beat Saber, but the reason I keep watching you is ... well, YOU! You could be playing random games, in VR or not, you could be chilling or building Legos, I'll still watch your content because I like who you are! Please keep doing what you like and just have fun as usual! I think most people will agree that we just want to watch you have fun! Thank you for your honesty Peace

[@forafewnightsout]

I hope you figure out your athletes, stuff like that can be difficult but I think I can speak for at least a portion of your fanbase, we are so here for you and your quickness and personally. I personally like your beat saber videos as a beat saber player, but everything else is equally awesome. You don't betray me forsure!

[@WickedOrchard]

Do what’s best for your physical and mental health. We’ll still come watch your content!

[@Aeidhmt]

Naysy please re-upload doja cat say so 😭ive been waiting for a long time 😭its my childhood ✨i love the way you dancing and your style in that video😭💓

[@DMC585]

So, vr games I truly like are story driven. Non compeditive,(no guns) puzzle type games (wonder, myst, (here they lie) and other great story driven thinking games). Dont know how well they translate to streamer view catching, though.

[@ogbunno]

For me, your wellbeing is the most important. Whatever you want to do and have to do for you to be healthy in every way, is the decision I support. Banana! 🍌

[@ICEKNIGHT949]

I bought beat saber literally right when you uploaded this because I wanted to play with you

[@whatamessjennings995]

Just look after yourself and have fun. You're an awesome person 😁 x

[@MarkDavidBlack]

Banananana. Ok here's the thing...first off, you don't need to ask permission for what type of content you want to upload. Secondly, I enjoy all your videos and honestly I'm kind of burned out on Beat Saber videos. I've been watching them for a while and I've enjoyed them but I'm ready for something new. I recently moved into a new place and have more physical space to enjoy my Quest 3, so that's cool. I like vr sports, but since you're having physical ailments that wouldn't be good for you at this time. I like regular games that are played on a screen also... so anything new would be cool. I don't know what other games you like. So just upload whatever. I'm sure I'll like it. Thanks.

[@richm7586]

Your doing great naysy, I'm here for whatever content you want to do. Banana. Your real personality is why everyone comes back and supports you, btw. So if you have a bum arm, and need to rest, it's all good! Also a shorter beat saber video is ok as well.

[@draginator6]

Health is most important. I tore my rotator cuff at work so no beatsaber for me right now, play whatever you'd like!

[@pinkjunkie89]

I have to play beat sabre sitting on a stool, with the walls turned off. I’m an ambulant wheelchair user so cant stand for very long without being in a lot of pain. I have lower body issues, but find playing now and again good for upper body strength. Can only manage at most 5 songs before I’m spent. So I totally get it!!

[@nuchbutter]

Also, I have NOT stayed away from fats and animal proteins. You need those for healthy joints. I DO stay away from sugary beverages like Coke, processed foods (ie meals-in-a-box) and any form of artificial sweeteners.

[@CrimzonZ96]

Whatever makes you happy will make us happy, Naysy. When you are in pain, we are too. If you want /need to make less beat saber content and make more variety content, all of us and I will always support you. You got this 💪

[@CrimzonZ96]

Me personally, I would love to see your thoughts on other games or maybe go back to some old ones. You always make my day and make me happy and laugh no matter what content you make.

[@MeLikeyThePenguins]

Is your Beat Saber vid of you playing Stupid Love by Lady Gaga available anywhere? I'm sad that it's disappeared from your channel.

[@lukefuse2909]

It is ok we understand hope you get better

[@SzymonAdamus]

Thanks for sharing and I hope you get well. For sure stream/record other games. It doesn't have to be only Beat Saber.

[@DSN.STAYLOYAL]

WE LOVE YOU NAYSY

[@christinelaoan5203]

Get s standing desk 😊

[@gusar3213]

Really crappy when health issues prevent you from doing what you're passionate about. That said, I would love to see other VR games in full video form and noch just as shorts.

[@JacqueJackson-sq7ok]

Hope you get better Nasysy we love you