Amadeus - Salieri's Plot

[@dinoasmr1514]

This movie isn't historically accurate, but hell it sure is one of the finest works of film ever

[@Emanresuadeen]

But the _rumors_ of Salieri killing Mozart were real, and already going around soon after Mozart's death.

[@Rootword7]

Edwin Fundales There is no such thing as “historically accurate” in Hollywood. It’s always one of two things: A heavily-financed, money-minded piece of art or a heavily-propagandized, extremely influential piece of shit with, almost, zero transparency to work with. This movie is fantastic, nonetheless.

[@kellerkind2298]

Of cause it's not historically accurate. It's another Adaptation of the fictional (and best) play "Amadeus", made by the author himself. It does not intend to be historically accurate. But it's genuis.

[@edmmitch]

Who knows. Who actually cares? Let it be true. And remember what certainly is true yet was not shown in this film. Beethoven was an apprentice of Salieri...

[@michaelreidperry3256]

Agreed. No, we don’t care. Suspending disbelief is okay when enjoying art. Otherwise it can be dangerous.

[@NathanielHarari]

One of the most brilliant roles ever played on screen. F. Murray Abraham deserved ten oscars for his role. The depth of his portrayal of the character is absolutely beyond reproach.

[@gertrudemcfuzz74]

Nathaniel Harari His performance was astounding. It will be watched, studied, and celebrated long, long after he passes away. For me personally, it is the greatest performance in a lead role. There are certainly actors with a greater body of work such as Lewis and Brando, but no single performance tops this one in my book.

[@PlanetRockJesus]

Absolutely. He was the star of this movie. Great, everlasting performance.

[@MapleSyrupPoet]

All performers were excellent 🏆. ...it takes a team on stage, & film 😃

[@orangefox1231]

Kitty, you just made me buy the movie.

[@MapleSyrupPoet]

@@orangefox1231 one of best films ever! ...it inspires...as genius as Mozart himself 😃🎭 ...well, almost 🕯

[@Ferruccio_Guicciardi]

"His funeral! Imagine it! The cathedral, all Vienna sitting there. His coffin. Mozart's little coffin in the middle. And then... ...in that silence... ...music. A divine music... ...bursts out over them all. A great Mass of death. Requiem Mass for Wolfgang Mozart. Composed by his devoted friend... ...Antonio Salieri. What sublimity! What depth! What passion in the music! Salieri has been touched by God at last... ...and God forced to listen! Powerless to stop it! I, for once, in the end, laughing at him!" - goosebumps ! Great acting by F. Murray. He earned his Oscar !!

[@DizKord1600]

You speak for all mediocrities in the world, Bryan. You are their champion. Their patron saint.

[@Emanresuadeen]

It was a terrible plan. When Mozart dies, Salieri is just going to show up and just so happen to have a new funeral mass already written for his dearly departed friend? And when Mozart actually does die, hardly anyone goes to his funeral. He'd be playing that mass to an empty cathedral, not all of Vienna.

[@Emanresuadeen]

@brian me He who has ears, let him hear.

[@Emanresuadeen]

@brian me 😃

[@joncaju]

Most impressive with this scene is how F. Murray Abraham acted with his facial expression under that heavy makeup and made it so believable and moving. Even the slightest movement of his eye lids or raising his eyebrows conveyed so much emotion.

[@johnjim6793]

This scene ranks among the greatest performances in the entire history of cinema. Just an old man sitting in a chair, played by an actor who was something like half that age at that time. But it's so captivating that you can't turn your eyes away. Truely unbelievable.

[@joncaju]

Most impressive with this scene is how F. Murray Abraham acted with his facial expression under that heavy makeup and made it so believable and moving. Even the slightest movement of his eye lids or raising his eyebrows conveyed so much emotion. What depth! What passion! Bravo Mr. Abraham aka Salieri.

[@bellmeisterful]

Nice observations. But what's funny and very interesting, those kinds of in depth analysis are often the biggest surprise...to the person who performed it.

[@BlastinRope]

Hate to break it to you but according to the dvd commentary its CGI

[@AliciaNyblade]

The completely stupefied "WTF?" expressions on the priest's face during this scene are absolutely classic. XD

[@bellmeisterful]

Lol. Not how I would put it but....wait, yes I would.

[@arthurtfm]

I watched this movie when I was 10 for the first time. Now I'm 24. Every time I watch Abraham in this movie I can't think of a better example of great acting. This is absolute perfection.

[@lenianonym2426]

I Think the same about the film,it is a very beautiful movie!!!🤗🙂

[@Tiger74147]

Abraham gets a lot of (well-deserved) credit for his role, but the priest had a HELL of a difficult part to play.

[@breezingby2611]

All those silent reactions truly add up. A wonderful scene partner for Abraham’s infinitely showier role

[@msinvincible2000]

the actors were amazing, but let's appreciate the writing: the script is flawless!

[@bellmeisterful]

Funny how scripts have a way of doing that. Quite often when people call out actors for bad acting I'd say no, they delivered what was asked of them. What sucked was the script! But people interpret it as the actors fault.

[@torquiloers3966]

@@bellmeisterful I'm working on an exact same type of screenplay for Georges Bizet.

[@bellmeisterful]

@@torquiloers3966 Oh wow. How cool. Will this be your first?

[@trompodearrachera1284]

@@torquiloers3966 keep us updated!!

[@kev3d]

They should have issued two best actor Oscars that year, one for Abraham, the other for Hulce.

[@orangefox1231]

Sometimes I think it should be that way. It'd get rid of the whole "Oscar win" thing. Why make only one winner? There have been years where they should've issued no reward like 2011 and years where 2 even 3 wouldn't' have been undeserved. Think how many "nominees" have been forgotten because they didn't win it.

[@butchcassidy8307]

Orange Fox change it to a decade award and hand it out to the ten most deserving. But that’s less $$$

[@ultrad-rex1389]

0:47 - For those who want to know the background music... it is called Introit & Kyrie...

[@mikefish4450]

Now that’s acting. The perfect person for the best part.

[@GradyPhilpott]

Agreed.

[@pg402]

Mozart had such an incredible ear he would know the voice 100%. What do ya think.

[@natchy99]

I agree. Mozart could have literally identified the tone, pitch, and meter of his words. Alas, this movie is a fantasy.

[@bloodguzzler]

@@natchy99 But Mozart was also in a weakened state both physically and mentally. Could that have contributed to his inability to know it was Salieri under the mask?

[@AlexisSnyders]

@Shao Yu Mai Wang You'd think he could just send someone to do it for him. I guess he thought Mozart just wouldn't care.

[@Emanresuadeen]

It's amazing how a bag of money can suddenly alter a man's perceptions.

[@Gbuljba]

I thought Salieri's servant was under the mask.

[@patrickturner6878]

That poor horrified priest. Staring into the heart of darkness...

[@winternow2242]

At 3:38, an incredible moment, a seemingly ironic diversion for comic effect. On script it seemed almost insignificant - like a sight gag on a sitcom. The only part that troubled me was the killing. And then FMA takes it over and turns it into a question, a deep and disturbing question of a man asking himself how far he will go to realize a painful longing. This wasn't a sight gag or sound bite. This is the sound of god laughing at man, at all of us.

[@bruh5485]

ari rottenberg I have been deceived

[@RepublicConstitution]

F. Murray Abraham was the Mozart of this film.

[@Choices2aa]

He finally got an oscar for this performance. I side with Antino Salieri

[@tha_xgxmer_310]

Me mozart

[@johnmcclain2848]

This movie was perfection. Even down to the smallest detail, even the smallest part. The priest had only a handful of words. But the look on his face as he heard the plot. The look on his face at the end of the movie when Salieri's "confession" was over. No detail was overlooked, and every performance elevated the whole

[@EverythingNerdReviews]

This is my favorite scene. What a masterpiece.

[@stephenweiss6001]

F. Murray Abraham's performance is amazing. Well deserved Oscar.

[@bernardqblack]

The most deserved Oscar of all time.

[@battleburger]

Salieri's Requiem Mass is actually on a par with Mozart's. Great Movie though. Salieri is one of the greatest villains roles ever written. So relatable.

[@stuartlee6622]

What about Hillary Rodham Clinton?

[@DrJones20]

@@stuartlee6622 Is she relatable though?

[@dinoasmr1514]

I wish I could tell stories as great as F Murray Abraham

[@loriwise236]

One of my favorite movies ..never gets old.

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

Amadeus is one of those rare pieces (I call it a piece since it is first and foremost a play that was then later adapted to a film) where a fictional story is better than real life. There is so much in the story that is complete and utter fabrication, the entire premise is a load of bollox. But it is so well done,so tightly written and so entertaining to watch, that it is much more interesting than the real life circumstances of Mozart.

[@freeradical99]

One of the best movies ever made . Timeless . Great writing, acting, MUSIC, costumes, sets tone . A perfect film

[@joancollaku8744]

The makeup artists were plotting on this man's downfall. He looks just as good as he did then now 40 years later and it's mind-blowing

[@Jen-ss8mc]

"you'll see me again soon"

[@-Vitalis-]

Very, very soon... **Evil laughter**

[@Pingaheimer]

we used to get movies like this, now we get comic book movies. What sadness.

[@willriley994]

Comic book movies are awesome

[@blackiemittens]

Few actors, provided they get brilliant characters and dialogue to chew up in a scene, can make you pity them, and creep you out, all within the space of 3 1/2 minutes. F. Murray Abraham nailed this role in every single way possible.

[@alleborgo5481]

That scene achieves Oscar to F. Murray Abraham. The whole drama in theese few photograms.... The very beauty of that movie...

[@gertrudemcfuzz74]

"A great mass of DEATH!!!" LOL

[@Emanresuadeen]

Salieri must be a fan of Megadeth.

[@oscarwildeghost]

My god, I cry at the very beginning of this masterpiece. What is humanity but music such as this.

[@Mrmidtown1]

Imagine being Mozart's next door neighbor and complaining about the 'noise'.

[@squigglyline6488]

Lol

[@marlino321]

Best acting ever is this Antonio Salieri

[@winternow2242]

A great scene - Abraham really kills it in all of his years-later scenes. Salieri's plot doesn't make much sense. Even if it worked, it wouldn't have changed things for him. People would marvel at the Requiem thinking it another work of his genius, as he was already one of the most respected composers in Europe. And Salieri would alone know the truth, that Mozart was better than he was, which is something that he had known for years. But then that's the point - it's based on an impossible longing, not reason.

[@jeffschecter4543]

Here is something to ponder. Salieri was played by the great Sir Ian McKellen on Broadway in 1981. I saw it.

[@ldhproductions112]

If this actually happened in real life, can you imagine the priests reaction?

[@mydog1871]

I was so sad when Amadeus died even though you already know what had happened to Mozart

[@thrashingpanic]

Wait.. He is dead??!

[@keithers7029]

The 18 that disliked this scene obviously knows nothing of greatness!

[@mikefish4450]

3:09-3:19 I concur...... I for once at the end, laughing at Him... brilliant passage

[@laithmeister]

Such an awesome scene.

[@owenmcanuff7549]

What arrangement of introitus is playing when Salieri says “MUSIC” at 2:27

[@D_Marrenalv]

An incredible scene

[@JpSalamander]

Legend says, he will still be seeing him

[@micheleramirez5765]

I think the truth about Salieri in the great mystery of Mozart's death finally exposes itself in this scene that perhaps he may have murdered Mozart. Very deep scene. You really feel the truth of it.

[@ap9854]

For some reason, this reminded me of a Saturday Night Live sketch called the royal taster. Lol

[@escaperoomleander1948]

Salieri vs. God, with Mozart the collateral damage.

[@ruffianoo]

Escape Room Synopsis, perfect. Wit, sublime!

[@vigokovacic3488]

21.6.2018. Still no dislikes...

[@menschman1464]

Vigo Kovačić you fool you have conjured two out of the ether

[@alexandrumihalisnicolau5231]

12/4/2021 46 dislikes. How times change

[@fooloffools]

F. Murray Abraham is a Mozart of acting

[@stephenfermoyle1498]

LOVE EVERY BIT OF THIS MOVIE

[@TheRozberry]

In this movie Salieri's jealousy of Mozart's gift was obsessive and he felt he needed to get back at him any way he could. Plus I think he was jealous of Mozart's care-free attitude which was "beautifully infectious"!

[@gumballsrelative9197]

1:37 Those notes should be the Theme if Revaluation ever comes.

[@atyy123]

goosebumps

[@Emanresuadeen]

He couldn't tell it was Salieri (in the black costume) from his speaking voice? Salieriiiiii!? Is that you?

[@martymcfly5434]

That downed on me too!!👍

[@Emanresuadeen]

@@martymcfly5434Well, he did just wake up, and had likely been drinking. Plus, a bag of money has a strange way of altering a man's perception of things.

[@bloodguzzler]

2:50 I wonder if that sound inspired Hannibal Lecter

[@GammaFrost1]

What’s the music when Salieri is describing his plot

[@natchy99]

Mozart's Requiem (Introitus)

[@cattycorner8]

Happy to have found this. Have been follo ing the Senate Impeachment hearings. The impassioned vitriol of Rep. Adam Schiff reminds me of Salieri. Schiff is tortured by the existence of Donald Trump, his perceived nemesis. And I declare, after listening to him today (day 3) poor Schiff has lost his damn mind. Trump has driven him mad.

[@learntospellpeople]

You're so addled by the right wing media and their fabrication you can't even get basic facts straight. Schiff is not a Democratic Socialist. What useful idiots people like you are.

[@WhirlOmar]

How can they cut the last part. It’s like cutting the culmination of a symphony

[@Agentname69]

I'm sick of people saying this movie is inaccurate everything about Mozart was mostly correct, however Salieri is in speculation because he's the one telling the story, but even then he really did make the claim of killing Mozart in his old age

[@franzeybler1499]

3:07 wow!

[@jeanderbar]

One problem with Salieri's plot is that everyone would've recognized it as Mozart anyway :p

[@terrortorn]

There is something about a tri corner hat and a cloak that I wish was still around.

[@Emanresuadeen]

They are still around. Just out of fashion. But start wearing them, and you may start a trend.

[@blancasoria9772]

Excelent !

[@eduardo_corrochio]

Is that the end of the scene? It seems abrupt, cut off; I might be wrong so pardon me if my memory of the film is faulty.

[@natchy99]

It is for Dramatic Effect. The killing, how does one do that???? Makes you want to watch more, doesn't it??

[@eduardo_corrochio]

​@@natchy99 Yes, it does. It did in the film. But I also like the rest of the dialogue (I checked the script online): "How does one kill a man? It's one thing to dream about it. It's very different when you have to do it with your own hands." But I see I'm being fussy. Sorry about that. Great film, and a great actor in F. Murray Abraham.

[@martymcfly5434]

@@eduardo_corrochio The Director's cut has over 20 minutes of deleted scenes restored back into the film including a scene were Mozart's wife returns to Salieri at night with Mozart's music and begins to disrobe until he rings a bell and his butler appears and he asks him to escort this woman out! He then walks away and she throws a candle. Then in the next scene when Mozart comes home she cries into his arms.

[@eduardo_corrochio]

@@martymcfly5434 I'm going to enjoy that Director's Cut. I found a copy and will spend a Sunday afternoon with it. Thanks for the info, Marty.

[@martymcfly5434]

@@eduardo_corrochio You are welcome and Happy Thanksgiving!!😉👍

[@stephenfermoyle1498]

BRILLIANCE

[@one.ebrown]

2:30 whats the song?

[@natchy99]

The music is Mozart's Requiem Mass in D Minor. The specific moment used is the Introitus of the first movement (Requiem). Possibly, the most powerful Introitus ever composed.

[@irishandirie]

Wolfy?

[@natchy99]

Wo bist du?

[@lenianonym2426]

Bei 1:33 ?😂🤗

[@wrongcourier]

The music at 2.28?

[@natchy99]

Mozart's Requiem.....the music at the very beginning is the Introitus. By far, the best yet composed.

[@notrowleyjefferson1951]

natchy99 I think you mean Mozart and Salieri’s Requiem. Lol

[@natchy99]

@@notrowleyjefferson1951 Actually, the role of Salieri at Mozart's deathbed in the movie, was his student in real life. As he was dying, he instructed his protege, Franz Sussmyer, who finished the Requiem for him. There was a lot less drama though.

[@martinwalthert1709]

W.A.Mozart..🙏🎼

[@fawnNheadlights]

I saw a lookalike Salieri in Mexico City at a restaurant all by his lonesome lol

[@Emanresuadeen]

Are you sure it was Salieri? Maybe he was a lookalike Omar Suárez.

[@joeblevins1061]

"As you can see, it is a ransom note, written by men who are unable to achieve on a level field of play. Cowards! Weaklings! Bums!"

[@Ironhandjohn]

“That…. That’s a bummer, man…”

[@cainechesman5870]

What was that song

[@natchy99]

That is the Introitus for Mozart's Requiem

[@carapo66]

Who gave you that money, Wolfie? ......Janus

[@MrCuongstyle]

3:24 ... Joker is talking

[@johansmallberries9874]

So he DID kill Mo Zart!

[@anonymoushuman8443]

But he was buried in a common grave 😒

[@JGGB25]

before Heath Ledger this guy was!

[@michelleyb.9709]

So he commissioned Mozart to do this work, and then Salieri was going to claim it as his own and laugh at God? Poor guy it figures that the wife would unwittingly put the work under lock and key. Even in death, Mozart could still best him

[@jja1483]

So Mozart really wrote his own song for the funeral right?but the other guy got credit🤔

[@natchy99]

There was an actual plot, but not from Salieri. Mozart died writing his requiem, no one else received credit. He completed almost all of it before he died.

[@rocelderamos3013]

There was someone who was going to take credit for the Requiem, a Duke I think? He wants it for his wife. But didn't happen. Mozart finished it but only personally wrote it up until the 8th bar of Lacrimosa. The rest was finished by Sussmayr (his student) as instructed by Mozart's notes.

[@XxowendanxX]

Antonio Salieri as the patron saint of mediocrity? Can't be. If that was the case he'd be a unionized government worker, not a musician

[@sequorroxx]

Well, a lot of the "arts" are heavily socialized these days. And the hollywood culture is quite protected and subsidized by the government too, so even that aspect of the "free market" is tainted by corruption. Of course, that doesn't mean all the young minds that are lured into that trap are mediocre, but it sure doesn't help.

[@ricomis7055]

No, he'd be Donald Trump

[@trentrez6643]

Wow Trumptard, way to inject politics into THIS

[@Emanresuadeen]

He was a privileged government worker. He was the court composer of the emperor.

[@Emanresuadeen]

@Kevin Michael And someone always has to work a private sector job to pay the high taxes so overpaid public union workers can have cushy jobs and benefits galore.

[@IRosamelia]

I just noticed, the actor playing Mozart must have been really handsome irl

[@natchy99]

Check out National Lampoon's Animal House

[@jrmetmoi]

Nope

[@IRosamelia]

@@jrmetmoi oh shut up :P

[@jrmetmoi]

@@IRosamelia I’ve been through but that actor’s face - nah bruh

[@slitor]

then he ended up in a paupers grave...

[@johnalang]

Someone in Austria should get a sample of Mozart's DNA and find his body...then give Mozart a PROPER burial.

[@stephenfermoyle1498]

TOM HULCE should have won as well

[@christopherbayne9061]

Nope. Not even close.

[@jayveeaurea9091]

Beethoven was insane???

[@jackofclubz]

This movie is excellent. Even though the story is pure BS.

[@SGH28N]

A great mass of death !!!!! Love it

[@FranSanTeeth90]

Two-faced.

[@andrenewcomb3708]

He resembles Michael Cohen.

[@campion04]

Yeah except if this were a true story, 300 hundred years go by and we hit modern times. everyone with any expertise could tell this work doesn’t belong to him. People could tell the styles don’t match. In the end, the truth comes out. You’re labelled a fraud for the rest of eternity who tried to steal Mozart’s work. God gets the last laugh every time.

[@organboi]

Salieri's requiem is the worst piece of sh*t ever. Go listen to it. It goes nowhere. It's the opposite of Mozart.

[@Emanresuadeen]

Here's the link. Listen for yourself and judge. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKq0eoOafbKjoMU