Kraven is a Disaster | The Death of the Sony Spider-Verse Explained

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Bear trap to the head goes pretty hard though I can't lie EDIT: THE POPCORN WAS IN A BAG, not literally kernels off the floor my bad

[@RB-vo4gi]

You won’t believe how relieved I am to hear that.

[@jaynedavis3388]

Omg thank goodness. He sounded like a gremlin 😂

[@jobymanuel1353]

They should have made the bad guy in this movie an evil Las Aranias like that guy in Madam Web. Sure, the movie would feel like a Madam Web rip off, but at least we can say that Kraven got a taste of hunting Spider people because of it.

[@Graylikethecolornotgrace]

I feel so bad for my dad. He was almost illiterate for most of his life and he learned how to read mostly with comic books and Kraven was his FAV. I wish he got a movie that was actually good :/

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Ahh damn that is unfortunate. I don't think this is the worst movie but it's certainly not an accurate Kraven

[@icravedeath.1200]

​Why'd they try to make kraven an animal lover😭😭​@@AmandaTheJedi I mean being one is based but he was the exact opposite of that in the comics😭😭

[@ariana_underdark]

you should show him kraven in the new spiderman game (if you haven't already)!!

[@Goblinduchess]

Sony is on a war path with me.. They seem to want to destroy the villains. Morbius and Kraven were 2 of my fav and I loved Madame Webb edit The character not the movie

[@katburgess5926]

"My grandmother died soon after. I haven't seen her since." Gold right there

[@ericb9252]

In the comics, Kraven, like Morbius, is a great and iconic Spider-Man villain, but like Morbius, Kraven doesn't warrant a solo movie. I honestly think an anthology tv series dedicated to Spider-Man villains would be so much better.

[@DreFromMaine8472]

Agreed!

[@Anynom]

A Deadly Foes show would be great seeing these guys pulling jobs

[@negligible_reality]

An anthology series starring supervillains would work well for just about any hero, Spider-Man or otherwise. There's actually a pretty iconic Batman comic series from DC called "One Bad Day" with each issue focusing on telling a dedicated story featuring and starring a particular villain, and I've always thought that an adaptation of that either animated or live action would be incredible. I'd love to see something like that also happen for Spider-Man as well since there's so much potential there, with Batman and Spider-Man both having some of the most well known and iconic rogues galleries in comics.

[@WhiteRaven696]

Last year, I would've argued Agatha Harkness didn't deserve a dedicated series. Any character can carry a solo story, provided it is well written. Kraven and Morbius were simply not well written.

[@robertlong9591]

That’s actually a brilliant idea for comic IP’s to who don’t have rights to the hero associated with the comic villain in question. I’d watch the shit out of an Arkham Asylum series following a young Harleen Quinzele as she interviews her new patients and each episode is an exploration of each character’s backstory.

[@baylaust]

The last minute plot twist that Sony could have had Spider-Man in all of these movies if they wanted, but actively chose not to, feels like the most appropriate way the Sony Cinematic Universe could have possibly ended.

[@negligible_reality]

Ikr? It's absolutely wild to me that they never even tried to introduce their own version of Spider-Man into these movies and instead tried desperately to get Marvel to let them use Tom Holland. They easily could have cast Andrew Garfield, especially after how much everyone loved him and his return to playing Spider-Man in No Way Home. If they didn't want to shut the door on having Tom Holland's Spider-Man appear in their movies by casting their own version of Peter Parker they could have used a live action Miles Morales or even Ben Reilly aka Scarlet Spider who is Peter's clone from the comics, either choice could have been fun and different from what we've seen in all the other live action Spider-Man adaptations so far.

[@starrsmith3810]

The best thing about this movie is ATJ’s acting and getting to see him shirtless

[@AmandaTheJedi]

ATJ is also the acronym for this channel and I was very confused for a minute

[@futuristicgirl14]

His mom wife probably thinks so too 💀

[@bethanychatman9531]

​@futuristicgirl14 lol, damn. Remember, he's the victim there, tho.

[@zacharymccoy7091]

As Rhino says,"With great horns, comes great horniness."

[@JoeChillton]

When he said "A rhino charges for opportunities" I died laughing.

[@tuckershuff1441]

Learning that they could've been using Spider-Man the entire time has been mind-boggling.

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Nah I totally get why they didn't - they wanted in the MCU and people would NOT have been down for that. They should have done their own thing though

[@tuckershuff1441]

@AmandaTheJedi Valid.

[@negligible_reality]

For real, they just didn't introduce their own Spider-Man in any of these movies because they DESPERATELY wanted their movies to be part of the MCU and to have Tom Holland's Spider-Man be in their movies, but obviously that never happened and Marvel wouldn't allow it. Honestly, after the success of No Way Home and the positive reception to Andrew Garfield returning to play his version of Spider-Man it's crazy to me that they didn't have him return as Spider-Man for their universe. They could have just had him play Peter Parker in their universe and leave it at that, or they could have lightly retconned a few details and made their new spin-off movies be part of the same universe as The Amazing Spider-Man movies. I mean if they didn't want to use Spider-Man at all for whatever reason they could have at least introduced Peter's clone the Scarlet Spider and had him be the main hero that faces off against the villains; that could have been really interesting and different from what we've seen before in Spider-Man adaptations, and tbh I think Ben Reilly deserves the attention anyway.

[@shanedaley6236]

​@@negligible_realitythey could have done a lot of things to make that universe work and just said nope

[@Gchildwarrior]

You need to check out The Penguin! It doesn't turn him into an antihero. He's the scummiest mofo with each passing episode Now that is how you write a villain! Edit: you mentioned it already haha. Hopefully we can get an in depth video

[@DAYV3EN]

Safe to say people weren't KRAVEN this movie. Most creative joke ever.

[@KitsuneRokaku]

All that was missing was *rim shot*

[@waywardmind]

Better than anything in the movie, honestly.

[@ParkBenchAsStoner]

@@KitsuneRokaku🤣😂 yes! However, I have a suspicion that you, like I did, read that comment and our brains already supplied the rimshot 🤣😂

[@KitsuneRokaku]

@ParkBenchAsStoner You are correct 😂

[@iamFSRL]

kreative, missed opportunity

[@unknowable4147]

I have NEVER heard of this before. Legit NO advertisments for it over here

[@joyc.e.7511]

i saw one part of the ad months ago lol

[@jelle3248]

Same, and I live in a major US city

[@gingerbreadandtea]

Villain vs villain would have been so much fun!

[@gwengrasso1887]

Loved the part where Kraven says, “It’s Kraven’ time” and Kraved all over the place

[@CantankerousDave]

Brought to you by Krave cereal.

[@mynaemismoos]

Never forget when people were doing that with Morbius all over the internet, Sony mistook it for cult movie-like enthusiasm and re-released it in theaters only for it to flop a second time. Beautiful.

[@moonshot3159]

Overused joke 😅

[@chibiktsn3]

I love that this meme is the true legacy of Morbius

[@hermunkulus]

...at least Aaron has Nosferatu next week?

[@AmandaTheJedi]

And that one IS good I've seen it twice!

[@reneedailey1696]

​@@AmandaTheJediI am JEALOUS!!! I've eagerly anticipated "Nosferatu" all year!!

[@AmandaTheJedi]

@@reneedailey1696 Literally flew to another province to see a press screening in IMAX and then got lucky enough for a review link

[@filmfangirls9163]

And 28 Years Later!!

[@SilliNikki]

One of the important aspects of Kraven for me is that he was hired to hunt the spider-people in the comic version of Spider-verse storyline. Watching this movie, I could not even slightly imagine this Kraven hunting down any spider person. BUT his animalistic movements and fights were SICK.

[@Erasureeraser]

It's kinda sad and hilarious how Ariana DeBose's greatest work after winning an Oscar for West Side Story were the "Angela Bassett did the thing" (which till this day, I think about it, quite a lot, as much as I think about Adele Dazeem) and hosting the Tony Awards 3 times in a row 😅

[@thatlycantomboy]

literally. I watched the credits for this and turned to my friends like “good lord I think her agent hates her”

[@amanshukla6122]

​@@thatlycantomboy Nando V Movies begging her to throw her agent into a volcano after Kraven sealed this point for me.

[@chigangrel]

When my dad says a movie is "just alright", then I assume it's absolutely terrible lmao guess what he said about Kraven? From the man who enjoyed Madame Web and the Venom movies lol

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Madame Web is cinema

[@chigangrel]

@@AmandaTheJedi Don't get me wrong, the man raised me we have the same taste lmao

[@stefoehmen]

I liked venom and Webb too lol

[@Kurtisie]

Hey! Venom was pretty okay I’ll have u know!

[@EricWoodend]

​@AmandaTheJedi Did you laugh during it? That evil horse from YMS convinced me to watch it because he said it was funny but I was just bored ☹️

[@thomasl.townsend3191]

Honestly I’m hoping that Disney never get the rights to Spider-Man in full.

[@harryklopp1098]

Anyone else sad no memes have come from this? "I'm beginning to Krave" "It's Kraven time!" I'd argue it rolls off the tongue better

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Sadly not enough people care to see it to get it going

[@RayMcElroy50]

AVI ARAD has ruined so far... * Borderlands * Kraven The Hunter * Daredevil (2003) * The Punisher (2004) * Elektra (2005) * Fantastic Four (2005) * X-Men: The Last Stand * Spider-Man 3 * Bratz (2007) * Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance * The Amazing Spider-Man 2 * Ghost in the Shell (2017) * Venom: Let There Be Carnage * Uncharted (2022) * Morbius * Venom: The Last Dance And now he's gonna ruin... * Legend of Zelda * Naruto As long as Arad lives, there's no hope

[@Erasureeraser]

J.C. Chandor, what are you doing? I'm honestly shocked to know that he directed it. I'm a fan of this guy, I think he's one of the most underrated directors working today. From Margin Call to All Is Lost to A Most Violent Year to Triple Frontier, I've been championing him a lot as a filmmaker and I think he has every opportunity to make a great movie. But man, it seemed like he met his doom the moment he signed on for Kraven 😢 I hope he goes back to maybe his indie routes like he used too and make movies that felt actually personal to him instead of something like this 🤷

[@mttylerdurden9]

Most of this wasn't chandors fault. Sony (and Avi arad)is known for interfering in movies and forcing directors to make a movie that Sony wants to make.

[@HurricaneDDragon]

I think Aaron Taylor-Johnson might have an addiction to playing comic book characters.

[@Zsamoff]

My headcannon: This is a lowkey Cabela's Dangerous Hunts adaptation with a Kraven skin on it

[@ConclusiveConfusion]

Alternative take: The lion is just doing that cat thing of bringing their human buddies their semi dead catches.

[@clockworkmonsters8590]

Yeah, I thought that too. Like a kitty with a dead mouse like "I caught this for you!"

[@TheLeshi]

I think that more people have watched breakdowns of what went wrong with Kraven than have actually watched Kraven

[@Phoenix-sb6hl]

They should have just committed to Eddie and venom and just done a bunch of movies just genre hopping to keep the IP. Or just bring back Andrew Garfield back and forget about the exhausting multiverse stuff

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Andrew Garfield is the only way I saw them adding a spider-man to this

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

No don't ruin Andrew's Spider-Man or tobeys Spider-Man by adding them in these movies

[@LeroyFurious]

It's Kraven Time.

[@CrypticCharm]

the thing is, so many people have no idea who Kraven is (i know from the animated series!) so i had almost nothing to compare this too. the fight scenes were great, but the film as a total...was a bit of a let down. but i will give the actors their dues, they are doing their best with the material

[@negligible_reality]

Idk man, people who know about Spider-Man probably know who Kraven is, at least in passing. He's a pretty popular and iconic Spider-Man villain in the comics and across adaptations as well. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but the only people I can think of who know who Spider-Man is but don't know who Kraven is are people who are extremely new to the character or who have only ever seen a select few adaptations where Kraven isn't present and doesn't get mentioned or referenced at all.

[@nerdycurls6253]

​@@negligible_reality to be fair he hasn't been introduced or mention alot in the newer Spider-Man media. Most mainstream fans would not know him at all, for example my mom has only ever watched the movies and didn't know him vs me watching the TV series adoring the character.

[@tmntaddict]

Thumbnail: "Not goofy enough." My brain: "A Goofy Movie's not goofy enough?" Me smacking brain: "She's talking about the Kraven movie!" Sidenote: I figured we got plenty of Kraven in that one Spider-Man game and knew this would flop.

[@photosyntheticseaslug6028]

14 seconds ago. The stars have aligned in a once in a lifetime way for me

[@katelynelliott5277]

Please never stop referencing Twilight.

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Nosferatu right around the corner

[@RandomLBS]

My favorite part was when he said "ITS MORBIN-WEBBIN-KRAVEN TIME" then he Kraved that one guy

[@WAMTAT]

Can't believe he Kraved all over everybody.

[@Brione30]

It’s crazy how Sony has access to one of the most iconic rogues galleries in comic history (arguably rivaled only by Batman’s), and yet the antagonists for these movies continue to be the most generic characters possible: Venom but Evil, Morbius but Evil, Venom but Evil Again…

[@kronk2.094]

Am I the only one not giving a thing about this whole Sony Spider-Verse Villains Franchise ever since the first Venom, and just enjoying Amanda talking about them? I sincerely hope not... 😅 Also, I actually feel kinda sorry about Levi Miller always ending up acting in movie bombs (still grieving on the unfortunate dumpster fire Pan was...)

[@franciscagomes185]

I love your videos Amanda! Your reviews and analysis are amazing and the editing is always on point!💜🌻 Hugs from Portugal🇵🇹

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Thank you!

[@jchinnjr]

A Kraven review from Amanda AND a Kraven Putch Meeting in the same day! 12/19 is now Kraven Day!

[@Kitty-f7v]

That segue to sponsorship was brilliant😂 really smooth😂

[@andrewkoster6506]

Kraven hunting Venom would have been great and it would have made even more sense because Venom is extremely exotic and difficult prey, literally an alien and an apex predator

[@jolakristin281]

Finally a Video I can watch because I will most definitely not watch this movie 😅😂

[@DarkSwanMoon]

I like it, saw it twice. I think people are being dramatic with how bad it was(there are certainly worse movies). Also while the current movies Sony had planned may be canceled, let's be real there just going to figure out how to restructure, because as long as they have the rights there're going to keep making movies.

[@ashram12]

To be honest: Spiderman’s gallery of villains suck and are tacky as hell compared to Batman’s gallery of villains. I mean sure, Batman’s villains also look tacky, but they have a bit more character depth than Spidey villains.

[@mosasaurusrex1815]

Floor popcorn🤮

[@Anynom]

So you're not ravin' 'bout Kraven?

[@AmandaTheJedi]

The puns are giving my life

[@sandeman1776]

I still wanna see more of the Brightburn-iverse.

[@ShyloNura]

I hope saying Knull looks boring is a commentary on what Sony was doing with him. Cause having a character that insane as an expoosition dump is a war crime.

[@YukiHime10106]

Thirsting after ATJ was the only reason to watch it and any scene without him felt bad

[@AJ-xc4qe]

Amanda, have you ever heard of Austin McConnell’s Superzeroes? It’s a cinematic universe made up of forgotten public domain comic book characters. It’s only just gotten started with a couple books he wrote and movies still in production with one trailer just coming out. I can just ignore Sony and look forward to this, all the MCU projects next year AND the DCU! Omg, the trailer this morning was beautiful!

[@sandeman1776]

Why do they keep doing ATJ so wrong? Dude needs a better agent.

[@GreyishBobbi]

Oh I think this is the earliest I've caught a video out. :D Have a lovelyThursday!

[@thenayslayer]

Making a list, checking it twice. Gonna find out who's naughty or nice. Sa.. I mean Kraven is back in town.

[@CanIswearinmyhandle]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="53">0:53</a> ?? Huh??????

[@ParkBenchAsStoner]

Um yeah, no sorry …. We’re gonna need to know a little bit more on that.

[@mokeysamo3528]

"the lion's blood enters his wound and she gave him a potion " helluva a party

[@joshaloi6712]

I had a great time with Kraven because I knew what I was going into. It wasn't as fun as Madame Web but it was better than Morbius. And ATJ is more than reason enough to sit through a feature length film.

[@GrimmReaper7165]

I had no idea there was a Kraven movie.

[@quinntribolet6593]

I'm sorry he WHAT?

[@mizstories9646]

At some point Hollywood just needs to stop worrying so much about spoilers and start bringing a bunch of people in to read scripts before they make a terrible movie. There just has to be a way to not make a terrible movie. They can use NDAs idk. They have to do something.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

I mean, they could just let people do their jobs and properly compensate them but...

[@fulcrum6760]

If the multiverse is real, the SSU was the Insomniac Spider-Man games or the Spectacular Spider-Man show come to life. But instead we got Morbin time.

[@casihamilton3773]

This movie either needed to be a little sillier, or a little more serious. That being said, I unironically enjoyed it. The parts I liked outweighed the parts I didn't so I consider that progress for sony.

[@jonathanwright8025]

I thought the Cammileon hinted that he went to Dr. Morbius at the end. Maybe I don't know enough of the lore.

[@bryanmartinez8526]

Awesome review. I prefer Kraven the Hunter from Spider-Man 2 game than movie.

[@tamaravsthevoid]

Have or will I watch any of these films, nope. Will I watch Amanda deep dive them for hours. Of course

[@TrappyJenkins]

The mini stealth game rant made me feel so seen

[@bunniesu_u]

also why did they make his costume design so bland. we all know how good Aaron taylor J looks in bright colors and animal print ☹

[@aresgalamatis7022]

I have to admit the reviews here are more exciting with these dramatic giallo zooms, than the plot and direction of blockbusters from the past decade

[@exalteddjinn69]

Where did you get the Spider-Gwen sweater?

[@AmandaTheJedi]

I actually have no memory it's been a couple years since I got it, probably just some random comic book merch site?

[@exalteddjinn69]

@@AmandaTheJedi

[@negligible_reality]

​@@exalteddjinn69I'm sure you can find it online if you search for it on Google using keywords

[@thatlycantomboy]

the entire theater burst out laughing when the rhino made his little croak sounds. it’s an awful film but it was a p good comedic follow up to Madame Web for me personally, because at least the theater I saw it in understood they could laugh!!

[@MoczoUno]

Can't wait for the sitcom spinoff, That's So Kraven

[@BingBong7778]

Mannn, I’m so upset about how this movie performed. I was hoping it’d be a at least a pretty good watch but, based off this video and other reviews……..😬

[@contortionyx]

If there were really bad, awkward cuts/edits made, that could've been what happened with the line "My grandmother died; I haven't seen her since." Like it was supposed to be "my grandmother died; I haven't seen X since." These movies seem to have a weird mixture of care and carelessness with the characters.

[@MyMyMeyer]

❤ the Sean Cody font in the thumbnail

[@griffinkimball2454]

This is the one I most wanted to be good. Kraven is a great Spider-Man villain, but he can do his own greatest hunter thing without the hero. Of all of these non Spider-Man movies, this is the one that had the highest chance to feel complete

[@litneyloxan]

I love ATJ, like sir, please just be with me, I am your age! 😂😭

[@lalaliasss]

Umm… I thought kraven was the guy who made scream smh

[@AmandaTheJedi]

That is also a Kraven, of the Wes variety

[@lalaliasss]

@@AmandaTheJedi the real kraven were the friends we made along the way

[@malefiquinn]

3 seconds in and AMANDA IS WEARING THE SAME GWEN UGLY CHRISTMAS SWEATER I GOT THE OTHER DAY

[@beccs9669]

Where did you get it!? :)

[@mhxistenz]

“Murder kitties are SICK!” 🤣🤣

[@morgaknightgames]

Honestly I had no idea this film was even coming out. And no, I still probably wouldn't have seen it.😅

[@evildoesnotsleep-x2b]

i won't stand for the Venom slander, girl!

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Venom 3 is bbaaaddddd I'm so sorry

[@SilliNikki]

@@AmandaTheJedi: my boyfriend’s favorite MCU character is Venom, and he hated the 3rd movie. I felt bad for how disappointed he was.

[@Charlie08079]

Aaron Taylor Johnson actually did a phenomenal job. The mannerisms and everything was great but the writing, other actors, cgi was all just so bad. I wouldn't mind seeing him as Kraven but in a well written and directed movie.

[@jaynedavis3388]

The lion giving back Kraven makes sense if you have a cat. Mine have bought me mauled & bleeding (yet still alive) birds & rodents… presumably for praise

[@literaIIyshy]

I want ATJ to have a win so bad i might watch this mess just for him

[@RedTheWeeb]

they def should of led this universe with kraven and actually have him hunting the other sony characters after evolving from poachers to monsters. similar to ps5 spiderman kraven becoming obssessed with hunting venom

[@mauricerose3082]

"Craven: Characterized by abject fear; cowardly. Cowardly; fainthearted; spiritless."

[@goodvibes3939]

Merry Christmas everyone 🎅 🎄

[@mafiacat88]

Gotta totally agree about the marvel vs DC thing; While I'd rather watch something else-if I *am* going to watch one, I'd rather see the hilariously terrible one, than the one that's like watching beige paint explode.

[@stormborn23]

The way I never thought I'd say I prefer Madame Web over seeing Aaron Taylor Johnson looking pretty 💀 I HOPE this is the death knell to Sony's Spider-Man-less-Spider-Man-Verse

[@Anna-d5n5s]

Very interesting topic! I look forward to new videos from you! 💋🔥

[@Kanashimimo]

I don't understand why they have to constantly waste time with origin stuff. At some point, you'd think we've seen enough superhero movies to suspend our disbelief and just accept that a dude is super fast and animalistic and whatnot, without having to waste time figuring out why.

[@CaptainCJ97]

Outta all the non spider films this had my most hope

[@jelle3248]

Listen, I'm not going to hate on someone for not letting theater popcorn go to waste.

[@archer1949]

I blame Avi Arad for this entire crapfest.

[@crimsoneclipse0618]

Man this movie is so disappointing. Kraven was my favorite Spider-Man villain by far and its sad seeing this movie be how general audiences think of him.

[@MrHootiedean]

I'd rank them: 1: Madame Web 2. Kraven 3. Venom Series

[@DreFromMaine8472]

I may or may not be first, but I want to wish Amanda and everyone else here a happy holiday season! And yeah, I have no interest in Kraven but I am looking forward to Captain America: Brave New World next year!

[@raptorkvn]

I bought that same sweater for my wife!

[@beccs9669]

Where did you get it!?

[@raptorkvn]

@beccs9669 it has been a few years but I think I got it from Merchoid.

[@ghostguru9156]

It definitely makes more sense for him to kill poachers rather than being one 😭

[@DMurphysLore]

This is ... this is just a Catman movie. Like it's a Catman movie by people who didn't have the rights to Catman.

[@ameynanote]

Amanda would do anything but not go through the emotional trauma of Arcane Season 2.

[@Fleato]

when I saw Knull in the Venom trailer I'm not going to lie I was kind of pissed. I really wanted marvel to do the king in black event stuff because Knull is legit like one of the most powerful villains in marvel and kind of bad ass. and I THOUGHT when Eddie showed up in no way home, I immediately went into nerd mode pulling everything together that they had the black knight, blade, and now venom in the works for MCU, which kind of made me think they were going to do Knull....... then MCU went toward Kang (boring) and then I see the venomverse was going to show Knull I knew it was a lost cause.

[@aresgalamatis7022]

@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="165">2:45</a> no Voltaire... *disappointed dad look* 🤣